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Rick

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Jun 25, 2004, 1:53:39 PM6/25/04
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For what I believe is the first time, the dreaded "F" word has appeared
in a US newspaper.

See what Republican family values is doing to our country?
--

Cheney Dismisses Critic With Obscenity
Clash With Leahy About Halliburton

By Helen Dewar and Dana Milbank
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, June 25, 2004; Page A04

A brief argument between Vice President Cheney and a senior Democratic
senator led Cheney to utter a big-time obscenity on the Senate floor
this week.

On Tuesday, Cheney, serving in his role as president of the Senate,
appeared in the chamber for a photo session. A chance meeting with Sen.
Patrick J. Leahy (Vt.), the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary
Committee, became an argument about Cheney's ties to Halliburton Co.,
an international energy services corporation, and President Bush's
judicial nominees. The exchange ended when Cheney offered some crass
advice.

"Fuck yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the presidency.

http://tinyurl.com/2nym7

--
Rick

Ed Rasimus

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Jun 25, 2004, 2:03:30 PM6/25/04
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:53:39 GMT, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

>For what I believe is the first time, the dreaded "F" word has appeared
>in a US newspaper.
>
>See what Republican family values is doing to our country?

Language is a wonderful thing. Overuse of some words lead to
devaluation, yet when an individual who is not noted for regularly
using particular words finds that communication is best served by them
resorts, the liberals run away highly offended.

"When you care enough to send the very best...."


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8

Rick

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Jun 25, 2004, 2:28:40 PM6/25/04
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In article <s3qod0l7v1kpgcj33...@4ax.com>, Ed Rasimus
<rasimu...@adelphia.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:53:39 GMT, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >For what I believe is the first time, the dreaded "F" word has appeared
> >in a US newspaper.
> >
> >See what Republican family values is doing to our country?
>
> Language is a wonderful thing. Overuse of some words lead to
> devaluation, yet when an individual who is not noted for regularly
> using particular words finds that communication is best served by them
> resorts, the liberals run away highly offended.
>
> "When you care enough to send the very best...."

No one's offended by the fuck word; what's offensive is the hypocrisy.
I mean, this /was/ on the Senate floor, and it's against the rules to
cuss there. And now, because of Mr Cheney's poor judgment, innocent
children are subjected to seeing the dreaded fuck word in their Daddy's
newspaper!! Oh, the humanity!

--
Rick

Dave

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Jun 25, 2004, 4:09:00 PM6/25/04
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That was almost as crude as Hillary's colorful language on inauguration day,
on the steps of the white house. Except her diatribe continued for over an
hour.

"Rick" <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:250620041353263620%ric...@nyc.rr.com...

John Kulczycki

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Jun 25, 2004, 4:31:44 PM6/25/04
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Rick wrote:

Isn't that the campaign slogan for the Republicans?

Kurt Ullman

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Jun 25, 2004, 4:21:28 PM6/25/04
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In article <40DC8BB0...@sympatico.ca>, John Kulczycki
<john.ku...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>>
>Isn't that the campaign slogan for the Republicans?
>

Yep. Fuck everyone is the slogan for the Dems

--
"Salary is the only biological variable which peaks
after the age of 25. Somebody once suggested female libido is another
but I completely reject that because female libido and salary are
not independent variables."
Dr. Neil Barnes

The Last Real Marlboro Man

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Jun 25, 2004, 5:38:53 PM6/25/04
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:21:28 GMT, kurtu...@yahoo.com (Kurt Ullman)
wrote:

> Yep. Fuck everyone is the slogan for the Dems

Guffaw!

Good one.


- Wayne

"I once tried to figure out which of our resident canuckleheads (i.e., McC or
Klszczski) was dumber; and just when I'd aboot reached a tentative conclusion
that incredibly dull bitch Ing posted and shot my calculations all to hell. Now
I just assume that each canucklehead is stupider than the next, kind of like a
mobius strip, but made out of bacon." - fundoc

John Kulczycki

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Jun 25, 2004, 6:13:50 PM6/25/04
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Kurt Ullman wrote:

>In article <40DC8BB0...@sympatico.ca>, John Kulczycki
><john.ku...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Isn't that the campaign slogan for the Republicans?
>>
>>
>>
> Yep. Fuck everyone is the slogan for the Dems
>

>I'd say based on those slgans, seems like the Democrats are a more fun loving and out going, pluralistic kind of party. The Republicans seem sort of self abusive and introvertive and perhaps narcissistic.
>
>

Kurt Ullman

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Jun 25, 2004, 6:19:20 PM6/25/04
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In article <40DCA39E...@sympatico.ca>, John Kulczycki
<john.ku...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

You'd be wrong, but you must be real comfortable in that way since you spend
so much of your time there.

Bill Oliver

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Jun 25, 2004, 8:33:40 PM6/25/04
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In article <250620041353263620%ric...@nyc.rr.com>,

Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>For what I believe is the first time, the dreaded "F" word has appeared
>in a US newspaper.
>

Don't read much, do you?


doyle

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Jun 25, 2004, 8:36:33 PM6/25/04
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"Rick" <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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Poor widdle kiddies probably have mouths on 'em that would give their
parents a heart attack.

Point of order, Rick:

Senate was not in session. It was a private BUT heated exchange between
Cheney and Leahy, that's only in the public realm because Leahy's aides ran
to the media with it: "Vice President Cheney said a baaaaaaaaaaad word!"

And Cheney admits he probably did:

<excerpt>

CAVUTO: All right. Sir, a couple of little issues I want settled, or maybe
to get the real skinny on. One was this blowout you had the other day with
Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont. What happened?

CHENEY: Well, I guess you could say we had a little floor debate in the
United States Senate.

CAVUTO: I heard it was more than a debate.

CHENEY: Well, I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had
done it.

CAVUTO: All right. Now, did you use the "F" word?

CHENEY: That's not the kind of language I usually use.

CAVUTO: All right, because the reports were that you did.

CHENEY: Yes, that's not the kind of language I ordinarily use. But...

CAVUTO: What did you tell him?

CHENEY: I expressed my dissatisfaction for Senator Leahy.

CAVUTO: Over his comments about you and Halliburton?

CHENEY: No. It was partly that. It was partly - also, it had to do with - he
is the kind of individual who will make those kinds of charges and then come
after you as though he's your best friend. And I expressed, in no uncertain
terms, my views of the - of his conduct and walked away.

CAVUTO: Did you curse at him?

CHENEY: Probably.

(LAUGHTER)

CAVUTO: Do you have any regrets?

CHENEY: No. I said it, and I felt that...

(CROSSTALK)

CAVUTO: So let me understand, he comes up, he sees you, Mr. Vice - he's all
nice, shakes your hand. And then what do you do, let into him?

CHENEY: Explain my unhappiness with the way he conducted himself. Ppart of
the problem here is, that instead of having a substantive debate over
important policy issues, he had challenged my integrity. And I didn't like
that. But, most of all, I didn't like the fact that after he had done so
then he wanted to act like, you know, everything's peaches and cream.

And I informed him of my view of his conduct in no uncertain terms. And as I
say, I felt better afterwards.

</excerpt>

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123794,00.html

--
Donna
---------------


William Penrose

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Jun 25, 2004, 9:30:02 PM6/25/04
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:53:39 GMT, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

>"Fuck yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the presidency.

Does he have to be nice?

Isn't just being competent and courageous enough?

Didn't he fight for his country?

Bill Penrose

William Penrose

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Jun 25, 2004, 9:31:20 PM6/25/04
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:03:30 -0600, Ed Rasimus
<rasimu...@adelphia.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 17:53:39 GMT, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>For what I believe is the first time, the dreaded "F" word has appeared
>>in a US newspaper.
>>
>>See what Republican family values is doing to our country?
>
>Language is a wonderful thing. Overuse of some words lead to
>devaluation, yet when an individual who is not noted for regularly
>using particular words finds that communication is best served by them
>resorts, the liberals run away highly offended.

Would you have said that if John Kerry had said "Fuck yourself?" Like
shit you would have.

Bill Penrose

William Penrose

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Jun 25, 2004, 9:33:17 PM6/25/04
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:31:44 -0400, John Kulczycki
<john.ku...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>>"Fuck yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the presidency.

>Isn't that the campaign slogan for the Republicans?

Close -- it's "Fuck the budget, fuck the country, fuck our troops,
fuck our allies."

Or something like that.

Bill Penrose

gekko

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Jun 25, 2004, 9:43:40 PM6/25/04
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Skip this part. It's only an attribution telling you that William
Penrose <spenro...@wowway.com> wrote in
news:6dkpd01lj5ectfkkb...@4ax.com:

'cuz the lib'ruls woon'ta run away highly offended, dur. They'da
been applauding the fucking fuckwit.


--
gekko

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still stand on the edge of a lake and shout to the silver of the full
moon, "Yes!" -- from "The Invitation", by Oriah Mountain Dreamer

Robert McClelland

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"William Penrose" <spenro...@wowway.com> wrote in message
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Don't you remember the Repubs going ape over Kerry saying "fuck" on MTV?

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The Last Real Marlboro Man

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Jun 25, 2004, 10:16:09 PM6/25/04
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:33:58 -0400, "Robert McClelland"
<robert.m...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Don't you remember the Repubs going ape over Kerry saying "fuck" on MTV?

No, you gross fuckhead. I *do* remember Republicans ridiculing the
obvious and sad attempt on Kerry's part - a candidate for the most
important office in the world - to pull a "clinton" on MTV.

If you can't understand the difference between using the f word on
MTV as a smarmy attempt to be "hip," and injecting it into a private
argument between two men - then you are even dumber than I thought. Or
more dishonest. Choose, alternative lifestyle boy.

Father Luke

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Jun 26, 2004, 1:03:23 AM6/26/04
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Kurt Ullman wrote:

>In article <40DC8BB0...@sympatico.ca>, John Kulczycki
><john.ku...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>>>
>>Isn't that the campaign slogan for the Republicans?
>>
> Yep. Fuck everyone is the slogan for the Dems


http://www.hal.nu/images/nelson.jpg


Every picture tells a story, don't it ?


Father Luke

Wendy Chatley Green

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Jun 26, 2004, 7:58:46 AM6/26/04
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For some inexplicable reasons, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

:For what I believe is the first time, the dreaded "F" word has appeared
:in a US newspaper.
:
Wuss. Adult men (and women) use such language every day. Why
get all swoony over this occurrence?

What I want to know is--how far from where Sen. Sumner was
beaten with a wooden cane by Sen. Brooks were Chaney and Leahy
standing? If you're going to be offended by behavior, go for real
hurt and harm.

--
Wendy Chatley Green
wcg...@cris.com

Rick

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Jun 26, 2004, 9:24:11 AM6/26/04
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In article <rroqd097jfsad34cg...@4ax.com>, Wendy Chatley
Green <wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:

> For some inexplicable reasons, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> :For what I believe is the first time, the dreaded "F" word has appeared
> :in a US newspaper.
> :
> Wuss. Adult men (and women) use such language every day. Why
> get all swoony over this occurrence?

What silliness. No one is getting swoony over language. It's just fun
to point out the hypocrisy of Family Values Republicans.

--
Rick

Wendy Chatley Green

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Jun 26, 2004, 9:36:31 AM6/26/04
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For some inexplicable reasons, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

:In article <rroqd097jfsad34cg...@4ax.com>, Wendy Chatley

Chaney is a born-again fundamentalist?

Rick

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Jun 26, 2004, 9:35:33 AM6/26/04
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In article <ksuqd09ng4rjb86bf...@4ax.com>, Wendy Chatley
Green <wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:

> For some inexplicable reasons, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> :In article <rroqd097jfsad34cg...@4ax.com>, Wendy Chatley
> :Green <wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:
> :
> :> For some inexplicable reasons, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> :>
> :> :For what I believe is the first time, the dreaded "F" word has appeared
> :> :in a US newspaper.
> :> :
> :> Wuss. Adult men (and women) use such language every day. Why
> :> get all swoony over this occurrence?
> :
> :What silliness. No one is getting swoony over language. It's just fun
> :to point out the hypocrisy of Family Values Republicans.
>
> Chaney is a born-again fundamentalist?

Could you be more disingenuous?

--
Rick

gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 12:19:58 PM6/26/04
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A day without sunshine is like ... you know ... night. Which is
much like a day in misc.writing without Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com>
saying:

> In article <ksuqd09ng4rjb86bf...@4ax.com>, Wendy
> Chatley Green <wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:
>
>> For some inexplicable reasons, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> :In article <rroqd097jfsad34cg...@4ax.com>, Wendy
>> :Chatley Green <wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:
>> :
>> :> For some inexplicable reasons, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>> :>
>> :> :For what I believe is the first time, the dreaded "F" word
>> :> :has appeared in a US newspaper.
>> :> :
>> :> Wuss. Adult men (and women) use such language every day.
>> :> Why
>> :> get all swoony over this occurrence?
>> :
>> :What silliness. No one is getting swoony over language. It's
>> :just fun to point out the hypocrisy of Family Values
>> :Republicans.

Cheney has said that swearing is a bad thing? That someone should
not swear? That swearing in a conversation between adults is evil
and to be avoided?

Wow.

Good thing you caught that.


>> Chaney is a born-again fundamentalist?
>
>
> Could you be more disingenuous?

Mr. Kettle is hailing Ms. Snow, but for some reason, Ms. Snow isn't
answering. Wonder why?

--
gekko

I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me
at once. --Jennifer Unlimited

Zero

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Jun 26, 2004, 12:32:25 PM6/26/04
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"Wendy Chatley Green" <wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote
in message news:ksuqd09ng4rjb86bf...@4ax.com...

>Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> :Wendy Chatley Green <wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:


> :>Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> :>
> :> :For what I believe is the first time, the dreaded "F" word has
> :> :appeared in a US newspaper.
> :>
> :> Wuss. Adult men (and women) use such language every day.
> :> Why get all swoony over this occurrence?

Gawd. Wendicon's selective defense of [X] strikes again.

in this case, X = pouty-mouthed, angry vulgarity by a trapped liar.

> :What silliness. No one is getting swoony over language. It's just
>: fun to point out the hypocrisy of Family Values Republicans.
>
> Chaney is a born-again fundamentalist?

um... no.

duh.

*none* of them are born again fundamentalist anything.

they're all almost purely evil, opportunistic fakers.

duh. double duh. and quadruple duh.

that's what makes people of your "gullible" ilk so damned silly.

and dangerous.

and those of you "conservative" "Christians" who *aren't*
gullible are just as despicable as the cuckhole fakers themselves.

Hypocritical Lying Pharisees, Inc.

actually, the Pharisees of old weren't nearly as deceiptful,
misleading, and dishonest as the latest bunch.


-$Zero... ImagineSomethingYouHaven'tThoughtOfYet...


[articulating the greatest, most
important commandment of all]

"Love God!
(and your neighbors...)"
-- Jesus
[Matthew 22:35-40, Luke 10:25-28,
Mark 12:29-31, Deuteronomy 6:5-9,
Exodus 20:1-7, etc.]

Introducing:

Unicornian Mathematics, etc.
http://tinyurl.com/3do56


gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 1:53:59 PM6/26/04
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A day without sunshine is like ... you know ... night. Which is much
like a day in misc.writing without "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com>
saying:

> actually, the Pharisees of old

You met them, then?

--
gekko

Should vegetarians eat animal crackers?

Wendy Chatley Green

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Jun 26, 2004, 2:04:51 PM6/26/04
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For some inexplicable reasons, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

:In article <ksuqd09ng4rjb86bf...@4ax.com>, Wendy Chatley

I could spell names with more success.

Do you perfer "Has Cheney ever stated that he is 'born-again'
and that he eschews foul language, and promotes family values every
time his mouth opens?"

Last I looked, Republicans ran the gamit from incredibly
uptight about everything to "Of course I kiss my mother with this
mouth--what the $%^%^&(#$#% is it to you?" To claim hypocrisy over
one word is lame, Rick.

Rick

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Jun 26, 2004, 2:34:16 PM6/26/04
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In article <3gerd0ll7s9talu3e...@4ax.com>, Wendy Chatley
Green <wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:

> Do you perfer "Has Cheney ever stated that he is 'born-again'
> and that he eschews foul language, and promotes family values every
> time his mouth opens?"
>
> Last I looked, Republicans ran the gamit from incredibly
> uptight about everything to "Of course I kiss my mother with this
> mouth--what the $%^%^&(#$#% is it to you?" To claim hypocrisy over
> one word is lame, Rick.

Except that Cheney's base is exactly that "born again,"
family-values-espousing group, and for Cheney to pretend to share that
group's values when he obviously has no problem swearing at a Senator
on the Senate floor IS hypocritical. Look at all the pearl-clutching
that was done when Kerry said "fuck"--in Rolling Stone magazine, FFS!

But maybe you're right. Maybe Cheney really does have different values
than the uptighters, in which case I hope the uptighters realize this
in time to not vote for him again.

--
Rick

Rick

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Jun 26, 2004, 2:55:51 PM6/26/04
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In article <Xns95145EE6F...@news.mbue.de>, gekko
<ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote:

> Mr. Kettle is hailing Ms. Snow, but for some reason, Ms. Snow isn't
> answering. Wonder why?

Fuck yourself.

--
Rick

Alan Hope

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Jun 26, 2004, 3:07:25 PM6/26/04
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Wendy Chatley Green goes:

> I could spell names with more success.

Not to mention words like "prefer" and "gamut".


--
AH

Alan Hope

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Jun 26, 2004, 3:10:14 PM6/26/04
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gekko goes:

>A day without sunshine is like ... you know ... night. Which is much
>like a day in misc.writing without "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com>
>saying:

>> actually, the Pharisees of old

>You met them, then?

Perhaps he met them in the Spirit, like the way you know Jesus.

In other words, no.


--
AH

John Kulczycki

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Jun 26, 2004, 3:51:29 PM6/26/04
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Wendy Chatley Green wrote:

>For some inexplicable reasons, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>:In article <rroqd097jfsad34cg...@4ax.com>, Wendy Chatley
>:Green <wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:
>:
>:> For some inexplicable reasons, Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>:>
>:> :For what I believe is the first time, the dreaded "F" word has appeared
>:> :in a US newspaper.
>:> :
>:> Wuss. Adult men (and women) use such language every day. Why
>:> get all swoony over this occurrence?
>:
>:What silliness. No one is getting swoony over language. It's just fun
>:to point out the hypocrisy of Family Values Republicans.
>
> Chaney is a born-again fundamentalist?
>
>
>

Naw he's a born again Halliburtonist. Real Oil Men speak like that.
That's all you ever hear at the drilling rigs and on the pipelines, in
the refineries and in the toxic waste dumps. The reason you don't want
him to say it in the Senate is because all debate in that house would
just boil down to those two words being tossed back and forth across the
floor.

Of course I could be wrong. He may have just seized the moment to trial
balloon the new Republican medicare contraception plan.


gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 3:37:00 PM6/26/04
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Romper, stomper, bomper boo.  Magic Mirror tell me true.  In
misc.writing I see little Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> saying:

I win.

--
gekko

These are not the opinions of the author, merely of the government
organization that censors her mail.

gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 3:42:10 PM6/26/04
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Romper, stomper, bomper boo.  Magic Mirror tell me true.  In
misc.writing I see little Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> saying:


> words like "prefer" and "gamut".

Gosh. A spelling lame. How original.

Alan Hope

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Jun 26, 2004, 4:43:54 PM6/26/04
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gekko goes:

>Romper, stomper, bomper boo.  Magic Mirror tell me true.  In
>misc.writing I see little Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> saying:

>> words like "prefer" and "gamut".

>Gosh. A spelling lame. How original.

Read the thread, little Lutzette. Wendy was on about spelling
mistakes, albeit her own.

I was simply playing along. I'm sure she got that, and I'm not
entirely sure what you're poking your fucking nose in over.


--
AH

Zero

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Jun 26, 2004, 4:47:33 PM6/26/04
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"gekko" <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns95146ED6A...@news.mbue.de...

>"Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> saying:
>
> > actually, the Pharisees of old
>
> You met them, then?

well, by reading the bible, i've "met" them just as indirectly
as i've "met" Bushole and Cuck-yourself-boy.

although, to be fair, given the miracles of modern technology,
i've seen much more evidence of Bushole's and Cuck-yourself-
boy's purely evil opportunistic fakery (the trainloads of hypocrisy,
deceipt, misleading, and other assorted self-serving dishonesty).

surely you've seen it too.

but for some odd reason, you and Wendicons, Brayne Klutz,
Raypert Pupkin, etc., choose to endorse/defend them all anyway.

go figure.

...

something about a filthy vermin quotient of some sort or another, i'd
expect.

gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 4:50:29 PM6/26/04
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Money talks. Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> posts this:


> I was simply playing along.

Defensive, whiny little shit. Lighten up, Alan.

--
gekko

Proof that evolution CAN go in reverse.

gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 4:51:07 PM6/26/04
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Money talks. "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> posts this:


> "gekko" <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns95146ED6A...@news.mbue.de...
>
>>"Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> saying:
>>
>> > actually, the Pharisees of old
>>
>> You met them, then?
>
> well, by reading the bible,

's'what I thought.

So you know jack shit.

Carry on, then.

Alan Hope

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Jun 26, 2004, 4:59:11 PM6/26/04
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gekko goes:

>whiny little shit

Haven't I lost weight fast? Amazing.

Now I can retort to Nutz, in the vein of Churchill:

"But in the morning I shall be thin. You, sir, will still be drunk."

>Lighten up, Alan.

PKB. I'm not the one standing guard over a dangerous loony. I'm the
one having fun at his (your) expense.


--
AH

gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:01:29 PM6/26/04
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Money talks. Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> posts this:


> I'm not the one <WHAP!>

I'm only teasing you, Alan. Stop snivelling, willya?

Alan Hope

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:02:37 PM6/26/04
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gekko goes:

>Money talks. Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> posts this:

>> I'm not the one <WHAP!>

>I'm only teasing you, Alan. Stop snivelling, willya?

Oh dear.


--
AH

Zero

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:03:30 PM6/26/04
to
"gekko" <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns95148CDE4...@news.mbue.de...

> Money talks. "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> posts this:
> > "gekko" <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote

> >>"Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> saying:
> >>
> >> > actually, the Pharisees of old
> >>
> >> You met them, then?
> >
> > well, by reading the bible,
>
> 's'what I thought.
>
> So you know jack shit.

well, no. i know plenty.

the tree bears the fruit of the heart.

people's chosen words and stances are huge windows to their beings.

most fakers are rather easy to spot.

their spirits either shine (or darken).

Bushole and Cuck-Yourself-boy are dismal self-serving liars.

Wendicons is a self-rightieous twit. as is Brayne Klutz.

Raypert Pupkin is a struggling magician.

Michael Moore has his big fat heart and head in the right place.

Geno is dead on the inside. (and a closet homo).

Alan is a warm-hearted funny guy.

Zen is an interesting sarcastic sort.

you're a mostly lost cognitive dissonancy dancer on the stage of purgatory.

etc.

anyone else want a diagnosis?


> Carry on, then.

yep.

such is the way of creative genius.

gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:07:25 PM6/26/04
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Money talks. Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> posts this:


> gekko goes:
>
>>Money talks. Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> posts this:
>
>>> I'm not the one <WHAP!>
>
>>I'm only teasing you, Alan. Stop snivelling, willya?
>
> Oh dear.

That's my brave little soldier.

gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:07:45 PM6/26/04
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Zzzzzzz

Josh Hill

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:14:07 PM6/26/04
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 16:19:58 GMT, gekko
<ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote:

>A day without sunshine is like ... you know ... night. Which is
>much like a day in misc.writing without Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com>
>saying:
>

>>> :What silliness. No one is getting swoony over language. It's
>>> :just fun to point out the hypocrisy of Family Values
>>> :Republicans.
>
>Cheney has said that swearing is a bad thing? That someone should
>not swear? That swearing in a conversation between adults is evil
>and to be avoided?

http://www.ucomics.com/jeffdanziger/2004/06/25/

--
Josh

To reply by email, delete "REMOVE" from the email address.

Zero

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:13:01 PM6/26/04
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"gekko" <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns95148FB00...@news.mbue.de...

translation: "snipped the rest mostly unread"

Bill Oliver

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:22:07 PM6/26/04
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In article <260620040931290049%ric...@nyc.rr.com>,

Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>What silliness. No one is getting swoony over language. It's just fun
>to point out the hypocrisy of Family Values Republicans.
>

Actually, Cheney's problem is that he isn't hypocritical enough.
With people like Leahy standing there knowingly telling lies
in the classic lib campaign of personal destruction, Chaney
was not hypocritical enough to fake bonhomie. Had he been
Clinton, he would have laughed, enjoyed the attack, and then
ordered IRS audits and FBI investigations of everybody involved,
denying it all the way.


billo

Alan Hope

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:25:25 PM6/26/04
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gekko goes:

>Money talks. Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> posts this:
>> gekko goes:
>>>Money talks. Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> posts this:

>>>> I'm not the one <WHAP!>

>>>I'm only teasing you, Alan. Stop snivelling, willya?

>> Oh dear.

>That's my brave little soldier.

Gawd. Isn't there some fascist fuck you should be sucking off?


--
AH

gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:25:44 PM6/26/04
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Money talks. Josh Hill <Josh44...@snet.net> posts this:


> On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 16:19:58 GMT, gekko
> <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote:
>
>>A day without sunshine is like ... you know ... night. Which is
>>much like a day in misc.writing without Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com>
>>saying:
>>
>>>> :What silliness. No one is getting swoony over language. It's
>>>> :just fun to point out the hypocrisy of Family Values
>>>> :Republicans.
>>
>>Cheney has said that swearing is a bad thing? That someone should
>>not swear? That swearing in a conversation between adults is evil
>>and to be avoided?
>
> http://www.ucomics.com/jeffdanziger/2004/06/25/
>

OIC. Cheney drew a comic under the, um, pen name of Jeff Danziger.

??

gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:36:12 PM6/26/04
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See? Now you're back to you're old self. Aren't you glad we kissed
and made up?

--
gekko

Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.

Josh Hill

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:52:06 PM6/26/04
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:22:07 -0000, bi...@radix.net (Bill Oliver)
wrote:

>Actually, Cheney's problem is that he isn't hypocritical enough.
>With people like Leahy standing there knowingly telling lies
>in the classic lib campaign of personal destruction, Chaney
>was not hypocritical enough to fake bonhomie. Had he been
>Clinton, he would have laughed, enjoyed the attack, and then
>ordered IRS audits and FBI investigations of everybody involved,
>denying it all the way.

Really. Those liberals are always to be found tape recording the
girlfriends of their political enemies and accusing them of everything
from murder to rape to financial transactions so vague that nobody can
even figure out what they're /supposed/ to have done. And when someone
is critical of their record on terrorism, they claim that he's just in
it to sell his book. Or if they compare the president and his cabinet
to a blind man in a room of deaf people, they launch criminal
investigations into the disclosure of classified information.

Oh, wait . . .

Alan Hope

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Jun 26, 2004, 5:56:51 PM6/26/04
to
gekko goes:

>Money talks. Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> posts this:
>> gekko goes:
>>>Money talks. Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> posts this:
>>>> gekko goes:
>>>>>Money talks. Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> posts this:

>>>>>> I'm not the one <WHAP!>

>>>>>I'm only teasing you, Alan. Stop snivelling, willya?

>>>> Oh dear.

>>>That's my brave little soldier.

>> Gawd. Isn't there some fascist fuck you should be sucking off?

>See? Now you're back to you're old self. Aren't you glad we kissed
>and made up?

I'll kiss you if I get one of those femdon type things paramedics get
for mouth-to-mouth, no offence.

And the word is "your".

Only a fool or a careful-as-fuck-guy gets involved in a speling thred.


--
AH

William Penrose

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Jun 26, 2004, 6:15:24 PM6/26/04
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:22:07 -0000, bi...@radix.net (Bill Oliver)
wrote:

>In article <260620040931290049%ric...@nyc.rr.com>,


>Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Actually, Cheney's problem is that he isn't hypocritical enough.
>With people like Leahy standing there knowingly telling lies
>in the classic lib campaign of personal destruction, Chaney
>was not hypocritical enough to fake bonhomie.

I doubt that he can even fake bonhomie. He looks like he's never
smiled in his life. Sort of a male Condoleezza. He's arrogant,
corrupt, cowardly, and evil.

He must have got that way while fighting in the war.

What's amazing is that the neocon contingent makes excuses for the
most egregious behavior in their own idols, while attributing evil
motives to almost everything that men of good will do. Not just you,
doc.

Libs invented campaigns of personal destruction? Give me a break.

Bill Penrose

gekko

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Jun 26, 2004, 6:32:16 PM6/26/04
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It was the best of times; it was the worst of times, when Alan Hope
<ah...@skynet.be> posted to misc.writing:


>
> And the word is "your".

Gosh. A spelling lame. How original.

--
gekko

Middle age is when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy.

Robert McClelland

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Jun 26, 2004, 6:29:07 PM6/26/04
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"Alan Hope" <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:lrnrd09j05fm6ranp...@4ax.com...

Since when did she need a reason?

--
Visit my blahg site.
GO NOW DAMMIT!
http://myblahg.blogspot.com/


Zero

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Jun 26, 2004, 7:54:22 PM6/26/04
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"gekko" <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9514804D9...@news.mbue.de...

>Rick <ric...@nyc.rr.com> saying:


> >gekko <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Mr. Kettle is hailing Ms. Snow, but for some reason,
> >> Ms. Snow isn't answering. Wonder why?
> >
> > Fuck yourself.
>
> I win.

then Chenney loses?

oops. wait. no.

he's an exception, right?

or maybe Rick was just being righteously ironic.

oy, this cognitive dissonancy selective-morality stuff...

it's all so confusing.

not.


-$Zero... ImagineSomethingYouHaven'tThoughtOfYet...

Ray Haddad

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Jun 27, 2004, 12:36:43 AM6/27/04
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 16:47:33 -0400, "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote:

>"gekko" <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote in message
>news:Xns95146ED6A...@news.mbue.de...
>
>>"Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> saying:
>>
>> > actually, the Pharisees of old
>>
>> You met them, then?
>
>well, by reading the bible, i've "met" them just as indirectly
>as i've "met" Bushole and Cuck-yourself-boy.
>
>although, to be fair, given the miracles of modern technology,
>i've seen much more evidence of Bushole's and Cuck-yourself-
>boy's purely evil opportunistic fakery (the trainloads of hypocrisy,
>deceipt, misleading, and other assorted self-serving dishonesty).
>
>surely you've seen it too.
>
>but for some odd reason, you and Wendicons, Brayne Klutz,
>Raypert Pupkin, etc., choose to endorse/defend them all anyway.
>
>go figure.

Not only do you LOOK like Michael Moore . . .

I have met the enemy, the gods of SPAM, and I have triumphed.

Ray Haddad

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Jun 27, 2004, 12:37:53 AM6/27/04
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:03:30 -0400, "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote:

>Raypert Pupkin is a struggling magician.

Struggling at what?

>Michael Moore has his big fat heart and head in the right place.

He's your long lost twin brother. Were you two separated at birth?

Ray

Thomas Armagost

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Jun 27, 2004, 2:23:53 AM6/27/04
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In message <qljsd0hmm97lh94di...@4ax.com>,
Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:

> Not only do you LOOK like Michael Moore . . .
>
> I have met the enemy, the gods of SPAM, and I have triumphed.

Poor old Deck Deckert looked like a bit like Michael Moore.
Zero more closely resembles Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

--
blog <http://www.well.com/user/silly/>
"Don't forget to register to vote" - Frank Zappa

Zero

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Jun 27, 2004, 3:35:14 AM6/27/04
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"Thomas Armagost" <si...@well.com> wrote in message
news:silly-FF7831....@corp.supernews.com...

> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
> > Not only do you LOOK like Michael Moore . . .
> >
> > I have met the enemy, the gods of SPAM, and I have triumphed.
>
> Poor old Deck Deckert looked like a bit like Michael Moore.
> Zero more closely resembles Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

or Jerry Garcia.

but yikes, yes.

some of us Sicilians could easily pass as "Arabs."

not a very comforting dynamic when you get pulled
over for speeding etc. in Bushole's selectively-moral
quickly-turning-fascist "America".

Wendy Chatley Green

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Jun 27, 2004, 7:27:13 AM6/27/04
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For some inexplicable reasons, Josh Hill <Josh44...@snet.net>
wrote:

:On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 16:19:58 GMT, gekko
:<ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote:
:
:>Cheney has said that swearing is a bad thing? That someone should

:>not swear? That swearing in a conversation between adults is evil
:>and to be avoided?
:
:http://www.ucomics.com/jeffdanziger/2004/06/25/

Vp. Cheney does comics on the side? Who have thought it?

Oh, wait--sources now inform me that Josh is using this comic
as proof that Cheney is not allowed to curse. My mistake.

--
Wendy Chatley Green
wcg...@cris.com

Kurt Ullman

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Jun 27, 2004, 8:16:44 AM6/27/04
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In article <eaydnX5BXpm...@adelphia.com>, "Zero"
<shakub...@aol.com> wrote:

>or Jerry Garcia.
>
So you look a couple years dead??

--
"Salary is the only biological variable which peaks
after the age of 25. Somebody once suggested female libido is another
but I completely reject that because female libido and salary are
not independent variables."
Dr. Neil Barnes

Josh Hill

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Jun 27, 2004, 10:24:50 AM6/27/04
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Better give your source 25c for another cup of coffee. Josh is using
this comic for the same reason Rick started this thread -- to poke fun
at the hypocrisy of the Bush Administration, which seems to think it's
OK to curse a senator in the Congress of the United States but levies
fines when someone curses on the public airwaves.

BTW, I think Cheney behaved reprehensibly, not because I give a fuck
about his cursing, but because he failed to represent the minimal
level of civility that is customary in social encounters between
political opponents. How would the Republicans have reacted if Clinton
had cussed out the Repubicans who accused him of everything from
stealing ashtrays to rape? Just reinforces my sense that Cheney is as
mean as he is smart.

Zero

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Jun 27, 2004, 10:41:22 AM6/27/04
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"Kurt Ullman" <kurtu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MUyDc.15135$w07....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

>"Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >or Jerry Garcia.
>
> So you look a couple years dead??

a *young* thinner Jerry Garcia.

(years before he croaked).

actually, lately, without my beard, i sorta
look Tony Orlando without a mustache.

OTOH, my wise-assed business partner was
fond of noting that i look like Paul Sorvino
(without the class). heh. funny guy.

but i'm not nearly that pudgy.

and i *do* have lotsa class.

it's just not the kind of class that Stan flaunts.

a class act, that one.

very classy.


but me? i'm just genuine me.

genuine classy moi.


and... at any given moment, i look exactly like moi.

so a younger Robert De Niro would probably be
the best actor to play me.

or a younger (more Italian) Bill Murray.


what about you, Kurt?

who would we get to play you in "MWM: The Movie"?

my guess? based on your posting history?

a subdued, less comical, Gene Wilder. perm and all.

or maybe Colm Meaney.


-$Zero... ImagineSomethingYouHaven'tThoughtOfYet...

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gekko

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Jun 27, 2004, 10:53:40 AM6/27/04
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Could we have kippers for breakfast, Mummy dear, Mummy dear? And,
while we're at it, let's read what Thomas Armagost <si...@well.com>
had to say in news:silly-FF7831....@corp.supernews.com:


> Zero more closely resembles Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

Hmmm.

"Zero" starts with a "Z"

"Zarqawi" starts with a "Z"


Hmmmmm ...

Does Zarqawi have a messianic complex, too?

--
gekko

I never miss a chance to have sex or appear on television. - Gore
Vidal (1925-)

gekko

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Jun 27, 2004, 10:54:40 AM6/27/04
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Could we have kippers for breakfast, Mummy dear, Mummy dear? And,
while we're at it, let's read what Ray Haddad
<rha...@iexpress.net.au> had to say in
news:onjsd0lo4o4esbmlc...@4ax.com:


> On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:03:30 -0400, "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Raypert Pupkin is a struggling magician.
>
> Struggling at what?

Oh. A spelling lame. How original. Replace the "str" with a "j".

Zero

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Jun 27, 2004, 11:00:56 AM6/27/04
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"gekko" <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9515506B7...@news.mbue.de...

>Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au>
> >"Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote:

> >>Raypert Pupkin is a struggling magician.
> >
> > Struggling at what?

sleight of hand.

duh.

see also: sleight of mind.


> Oh. A spelling lame. How original. Replace the "str" with a "j".

Raypert's Humor Lessons Refund Insurance Rates must be through the roof by
now.

Zero

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Jun 27, 2004, 11:08:56 AM6/27/04
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"gekko" <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns951550405...@news.mbue.de...

>Thomas Armagost <si...@well.com>


>
> > Zero more closely resembles Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
>
> Hmmm.
>
> "Zero" starts with a "Z"
>
> "Zarqawi" starts with a "Z"
>
> Hmmmmm ...

Gekko starts with a "G".

Gawwwd starts wit a "G".

Generous starts with a "G".

Goalpost starts with a "G".

Good-hearted starts with a "G".

Go! starts with a "G".


> Does Zarqawi have a messianic complex, too?

cuck that. i've got a LoverOfLife complex.

Wendy Chatley Green

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Jun 27, 2004, 11:49:16 AM6/27/04
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For some inexplicable reasons, Josh Hill <Josh44...@snet.net>
wrote:

:
:On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:27:13 -0400, Wendy Chatley Green


:<wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:
:
:>For some inexplicable reasons, Josh Hill <Josh44...@snet.net>
:>wrote:
:>

:>:http://www.ucomics.com/jeffdanziger/2004/06/25/


:>
:> Vp. Cheney does comics on the side? Who have thought it?
:>
:> Oh, wait--sources now inform me that Josh is using this comic
:>as proof that Cheney is not allowed to curse. My mistake.
:
:Better give your source 25c for another cup of coffee. Josh is using
:this comic for the same reason Rick started this thread -- to poke fun
:at the hypocrisy of the Bush Administration, which seems to think it's
:OK to curse a senator in the Congress of the United States but levies
:fines when someone curses on the public airwaves.

And I think the claiming of hypocrisy here is akin to my
insisting that you should wear a yarmulke at all times because you
have Jewish ancestors and that Rick should be a hairdresser and wear
nothing but pastels. That you might want to wear a yarmulke and that
Rick might want to cut hair and wear pink is fine, just as my or
Cheney's use of foul language when we want to use it also is fine.
Requiring any of this just because you buy into a stereotype is wrong.

Do you really think Cheney asked permission of Bush before
saying "Fuck you"?

Wendy Chatley Green

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Jun 27, 2004, 11:50:10 AM6/27/04
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For some inexplicable reasons, Paul Harwood <pa...@wrevel.com> wrote:

:On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 23:23:53 -0700, Thomas Armagost said in
:misc.writing:
:
:>Poor old Deck Deckert looked like a bit like Michael Moore.
:
:"Looked"?
:
:Did something happened while I was otherwise engaged?

Just some health issues--nothing deadly.

Jackson Pillock

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Jun 27, 2004, 3:55:32 PM6/27/04
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"Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:eaydnX5BXpm...@adelphia.com...
: "Thomas Armagost" <si...@well.com> wrote in message

: news:silly-FF7831....@corp.supernews.com...
:
: > Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
: >
: > > Not only do you LOOK like Michael Moore . . .
: > >
: > > I have met the enemy, the gods of SPAM, and I have triumphed.
: >
: > Poor old Deck Deckert looked like a bit like Michael Moore.
: > Zero more closely resembles Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
:
: or Jerry Garcia.

of the Spiteful Dead.

Zero

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Jun 27, 2004, 4:26:03 PM6/27/04
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"Jackson Pillock" <Jac...@splatter.com> wrote in
message news:cbn8nk$l3l$1...@hercules.btinternet.com...

> "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote:


> : "Thomas Armagost" <si...@well.com> wrote:
> : > Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> : >
> : > > Not only do you LOOK like Michael Moore . . .
> : >

> : > Poor old Deck Deckert looked like a bit like Michael Moore.
> : > Zero more closely resembles Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
> :
> : or Jerry Garcia.
>
> of the Spiteful Dead.

as a Sicilian, spite is definitely in my "genes" or culture, whatever.

but given the amount of unjustified malice and unjustified negative
actions directed towards moi, i'd say that i resist being spiteful
quite well.

perhaps too well.


-$Zero... ImagineSomethingYouHaven'tThoughtOfYet...

pandora

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Jun 27, 2004, 5:21:15 PM6/27/04
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"Josh Hill" <Josh44...@snet.net> wrote in message
news:akltd0pqdmbfp4bds...@4ax.com...

Perhaps they would have respected him? After all, *some* of the most
fervent RWW here, use language of that sort all the time. It's all the same
to me. Shrug

Marg

Jackson Pillock

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Jun 27, 2004, 6:52:23 PM6/27/04
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"Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:X5CdnY9AMoR...@adelphia.com...
: "Jackson Pillock" <Jac...@splatter.com> wrote in

: message news:cbn8nk$l3l$1...@hercules.btinternet.com...
:
: > "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote:
: > : "Thomas Armagost" <si...@well.com> wrote:
: > : > Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
: > : >
: > : > > Not only do you LOOK like Michael Moore . . .
: > : >
: > : > Poor old Deck Deckert looked like a bit like Michael Moore.
: > : > Zero more closely resembles Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
: > :
: > : or Jerry Garcia.
: >
: > of the Spiteful Dead.
:
: as a Sicilian, spite is definitely in my "genes" or culture, whatever.
:
: but given the amount of unjustified malice and unjustified negative
: actions directed towards moi, i'd say that i resist being spiteful
: quite well.

Why do people pick on you, Zero? You must have a theory.

:
: perhaps too well.

Don't get all hint-of-danger on me now. I just liked the way "Spiteful Dead"
sounded. You should have come back with something like, "Oh yeah, well
you're Malice Cooper." And I would have said, "That's rich, coming from a
grudge-metal fan like you." It could have been such fun. Let's start again.

Hey Zero, you look just like Jerry Garcia, of the Spiteful Dead.


Thomas Armagost

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Jun 27, 2004, 7:24:21 PM6/27/04
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William C. Mann of Associated Press <http://tinyurl.com/2x3ku> sez:

> On Tuesday, as Cheney and the senators gathered in the chamber for
> a photograph, Leahy struck up a conversation. Cheney challenged the
> senator about his frequent criticism of Halliburton Co., which
> Cheney formerly headed. In response, Leahy attacked the White House
> for not interceding when Leahy and other Democrats were portrayed
> as prejudiced against Roman Catholics for opposing one of President
> Bush's judicial nominees.

An odd accusation. Kerry is Roman Catholic, isn't he?

> Cheney shot back an obscenity. He later confirmed to Fox News his
> use of the obscenity and said he felt better after saying it.

Evidently lots of folks feel better after viewing porn on the web.

If I were a federal judge, I'd order Cheney to take anger management
classes. It's all about impulse control.

> "It's a political season right now, where partisan feelings and
> emotions have come to the surface [...]," Frist said when asked
> on CNN's "Late Edition" about the comment

Before he's chased off the air, Howard Stern should visit the U.S.
Senate. Maybe he could broadcast live from the gallery, and
interview some friends from the porn industry up there. Talk about
your special interest lobbyists.

Thanks for the URL of the Jeff Danziger editorial cartoon, Josh.
<http://www.ucomics.com/jeffdanziger/2004/06/25/>

--
blog <http://www.well.com/user/silly/> si...@well.com

Josh Hill

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Jun 27, 2004, 9:09:41 PM6/27/04
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 11:49:16 -0400, Wendy Chatley Green
<wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:

I'm afraid I don't follow your argument. Cheney is part of the
Admnistration, and what he does either represents Administration
policy or should be disavowed. An Administration that announces with
great fanfaire that it is cracking down on over-the-air cussing
should, at a minimum, apply the same standards to its own officials.
Otherwise, barring some other factor, yes, it reeks of hypocrisy.

Zero

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Jun 27, 2004, 10:46:52 PM6/27/04
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"Jackson Pillock" <Jac...@splatter.com> wrote in message
news:cbnj36$eim$1...@hercules.btinternet.com...

> "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote:


> : "Jackson Pillock" <Jac...@splatter.com> wrote:
> : > "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote:
> : > : "Thomas Armagost" <si...@well.com> wrote:
> : > : > Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
> : > : >
> : > : > > Not only do you LOOK like Michael Moore . . .
> : > : >
> : > : > Poor old Deck Deckert looked like a bit like Michael Moore.
> : > : > Zero more closely resembles Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
> : > :
> : > : or Jerry Garcia.
> : >
> : > of the Spiteful Dead.
> :
> : as a Sicilian, spite is definitely in my "genes" or culture, whatever.
> :
> : but given the amount of unjustified malice and unjustified negative
> : actions directed towards moi, i'd say that i resist being spiteful
> : quite well.
>
> Why do people pick on you, Zero? You must have a theory.

heh. good one.

but, ok. let's see. who picks on me?

corrupt cops and their ass-kissing ilk.

grossly corrupt corporations.

self-righteous nit wits.

religious (and other) hypocrites.

mean bastards.

warmongers/hatemongers.

dumbfucks.

rabid right wingers.

people with no sense of humor.

etc.

now why these people?

i'd guess it's because i won't shut up about them and their
annoyingly pointless destructive behaviors (in my creative
genius comical way).

EOFS.

does that make any remote sense or does it simply
sound like a paranoid persecution complex of some
sort?

> : perhaps too well.
>
> Don't get all hint-of-danger on me now. I just liked the way
> "Spiteful Dead" sounded. You should have come back with
> something like, "Oh yeah, well you're Malice Cooper."
> And I would have said, "That's rich, coming from a grudge-
> metal fan like you." It could have been such fun. Let's start again.

oh. puns.

> Hey Zero, you look just like Jerry Garcia, of the Spiteful Dead.

hey Jackson, IIRC from your Friendster photo, you look
like that guy who sings "She Drives Me Crazy".

there. was that more what you wanted?

ok, granted, no pun. and no malice.

just accurate visual congruency.

but... well... maybe next time.

when my pun-generator is back up and running.

Wendy Chatley Green

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Jun 28, 2004, 7:21:57 AM6/28/04
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For some inexplicable reasons, Josh Hill <Josh44...@snet.net>
wrote:

:On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 11:49:16 -0400, Wendy Chatley Green


:<wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:
:
:>For some inexplicable reasons, Josh Hill <Josh44...@snet.net>
:>wrote:
:>

:> And I think the claiming of hypocrisy here is akin to my


:>insisting that you should wear a yarmulke at all times because you
:>have Jewish ancestors and that Rick should be a hairdresser and wear
:>nothing but pastels. That you might want to wear a yarmulke and that
:>Rick might want to cut hair and wear pink is fine, just as my or
:>Cheney's use of foul language when we want to use it also is fine.
:>Requiring any of this just because you buy into a stereotype is wrong.
:>
:> Do you really think Cheney asked permission of Bush before
:>saying "Fuck you"?
:
:I'm afraid I don't follow your argument. Cheney is part of the
:Admnistration, and what he does either represents Administration
:policy or should be disavowed. An Administration that announces with
:great fanfaire that it is cracking down on over-the-air cussing
:should, at a minimum, apply the same standards to its own officials.
:Otherwise, barring some other factor, yes, it reeks of hypocrisy.

Had Cheney been making a speech on the major broadcast
networks during the mandated foul-language-free hours, I'd agree that
the word was unappropriate--but he wasn't. The word was used in a
conversation with someone who had angered him and was not broadcast on
FCC-controlled airwaves.

Given your stance, you appear to condemn any Administration
official who, while working in his car, shouts "SHIT!" after dropping
an alternator on his foot. I'll bet that, in the same circumstances,
you wouldn't use the word "ouch."

gekko

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Jun 28, 2004, 9:34:17 AM6/28/04
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It was the best of times; it was the worst of times, when Wendy Chatley Green <wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> posted to misc.writing:

It's a simple case of "This is how I, Josh Hill, believe others
should behave, and when they do not behave that way, I get to call
them 'hypocrites'."

It's typical Hillianism.


--
gekko

Vote early and vote often. - Al Capone (1899-1947)

Alan Hope

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Jun 28, 2004, 12:19:59 PM6/28/04
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Zero goes:

>> : > : or Jerry Garcia.

>> : > of the Spiteful Dead.

>heh. good one.

>grossly corrupt corporations.

>self-righteous nit wits.

>religious (and other) hypocrites.

>mean bastards.

>warmongers/hatemongers.

>dumbfucks.

>rabid right wingers.

>etc.

>now why these people?

Why not? Dude, who's left?

>i'd guess it's because i won't shut up about them and their
>annoyingly pointless destructive behaviors (in my creative
>genius comical way).

The last part nails it.

>EOFS.

Except it never is.

>does that make any remote sense or does it simply
>sound like a paranoid persecution complex of some
>sort?

B.

>> : perhaps too well.

>> Don't get all hint-of-danger on me now. I just liked the way
>> "Spiteful Dead" sounded. You should have come back with
>> something like, "Oh yeah, well you're Malice Cooper."
>> And I would have said, "That's rich, coming from a grudge-
>> metal fan like you." It could have been such fun. Let's start again.

>oh. puns.

>> Hey Zero, you look just like Jerry Garcia, of the Spiteful Dead.

>hey Jackson, IIRC from your Friendster photo, you look
>like that guy who sings "She Drives Me Crazy".

<thud>

>there. was that more what you wanted?

>ok, granted, no pun. and no malice.

>just accurate visual congruency.

>but... well... maybe next time.

>when my pun-generator is back up and running.

That'll be when your genius is finally recognised. The day you ever
put some words together in a funny way, even a juvenile-funny way,
will be the day the Stockholm jury finally gets around to you.

You're the most crushingly literal, plodding poster I've ever seen,
and that includes Bill Palmer.

Nothing wrong with that. But a creative genius ought, from time to
time, to be creative.

Hey, I don't make the rules.


--
AH

gekko

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Jun 28, 2004, 12:45:24 PM6/28/04
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Return with us now to that remarkable Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:19:59 +0200, a day like other days, except that upon that day, Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in <svg0e09cuequlikpf...@4ax.com>:


To Zero:


> You're the most crushingly literal, plodding poster I've ever seen,
> and that includes Bill Palmer.

OIC how it is. A girl works and works at becoming crushingly literal,
and plodding to boot, hoping to catch the eye of that certain someone,
but I can see your heart belongs to Zed.


> Hey, I don't make the rules.

That's right. The Emperor for Life does. Or Gail does. Or is that
Sylvia? And whatever happened to the queen with the dot? I'm
not talking about Rick.

--
gekko

In case of atomic attack, the federal ruling against prayer in schools will be temporarily canceled.

Zero

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Jun 28, 2004, 2:58:46 PM6/28/04
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"Alan Hope" <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:svg0e09cuequlikpf...@4ax.com...

> Zero goes:

well, i personally know quite a few. so extrapolate that out and it
potentially adds up to zillions. i'm talking the extremes there, not those
who have those characteristics mildy.

> >i'd guess it's because i won't shut up about them and their
> >annoyingly pointless destructive behaviors (in my creative
> >genius comical way).
>
> The last part nails it.

indeed.

> >EOFS.
>
> Except it never is.

yeah, so?

> >does that make any remote sense or does it simply
> >sound like a paranoid persecution complex of some
> >sort?
>
> B.

b = bzzzt.

unless, maybe you believe this to be true:

just because people maliciously and unjustifiably persecute you
doesn't mean that you don't have a persecution complex?

if you believe *that*, you're a far bigger cuckwit than i thought.

i mean, i'm not one of those whiny Christians who falsely believe
that they're being persecuted just to make themselves feel important,
and/or righteous, FFS.

> >> : perhaps too well.
>
> >> Don't get all hint-of-danger on me now. I just liked the way
> >> "Spiteful Dead" sounded. You should have come back with
> >> something like, "Oh yeah, well you're Malice Cooper."
> >> And I would have said, "That's rich, coming from a grudge-
> >> metal fan like you." It could have been such fun. Let's start again.
>
> >oh. puns.
>
> >> Hey Zero, you look just like Jerry Garcia, of the Spiteful Dead.
>
> >hey Jackson, IIRC from your Friendster photo, you look
> >like that guy who sings "She Drives Me Crazy".
>
> <thud>

thud? why? tediously acurate?

> >there. was that more what you wanted?
> >ok, granted, no pun. and no malice.
> >just accurate visual congruency.
> >but... well... maybe next time.
> >when my pun-generator is back up and running.
>
> That'll be when your genius is finally recognised.

LIGAF.

> The day you ever put some words together in a funny way,

hah!

>even a juvenile-funny way, will be the day the Stockholm jury
>finally gets around to you.

reference imparirment.

are those the people who give out the Nobel Peace Prizes?

> You're the most crushingly literal, plodding poster I've ever seen,
> and that includes Bill Palmer.

only when i want to be, FFS. other times, my metaphors are peerless.

my assorted vignettes, for instance, just for starters.

anyway, i suspect you'd be hard-pressed to find many people
who consider me "literal." most people think i'm schizo. FFS.

> Nothing wrong with that. But a creative genius ought, from
> time to time, to be creative.

from time to time, i'm *not* creative. rare as those times are, mind.

> Hey, I don't make the rules.

i do. i'm a creative genius. see my sig below.

Jackson Pillock

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Jun 28, 2004, 6:34:21 PM6/28/04
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"Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:-I6dnT8gwZ2...@adelphia.com...
: "Jackson Pillock" <Jac...@splatter.com> wrote in message

Hard to say. Here, study this ink blot:

*

What does it look like to you? Say the first thing that comes to mind.

Zero

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Jun 28, 2004, 6:43:53 PM6/28/04
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"Jackson Pillock" <Jac...@splatter.com> wrote in message
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conspiracy.


<g>

Josh Hill

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Jun 28, 2004, 8:25:31 PM6/28/04
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 07:21:57 -0400, Wendy Chatley Green
<wcgreen...@eudoramail.com> wrote:

Me? I'd say it on network TV during a meeting with the Pope. But that,
of course, is the point. It's hypocritical to ban from the airwaves
language that we use at home, and it's doubly hypocritical to do so
when that language is used by high elected officials at a
Congressional function. The circumstances are not precisely parallel,
but from my perspective they're close enough to qualify this as a "do
as I say, not as I do."

Josh Hill

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Jun 28, 2004, 8:25:55 PM6/28/04
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On 28 Jun 2004 13:34:17 GMT, gekko <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid>
wrote:

Hypocrite.

Josh Hill

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Jun 28, 2004, 8:31:07 PM6/28/04
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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 14:21:15 -0700, "pandora" <pan...@peak.org>
wrote:

Nah, they would have made a Federal case about it, just as they did
with his petting sessions. "President curses! Oh, horrors!"

Reminds me of when, many years ago, the White House released the first
Nixon tapes. My grandmother, a lifelong Republican and a Nixon
supporter, was scandalized by the expletives deleted. His foul-mouthed
language turned her against him when no amount of skullduggery had
been able to.

gekko

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Jun 28, 2004, 8:45:06 PM6/28/04
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Mairzydoats and dozydoats, but little Josh Hill
<Josh44...@snet.net> posts to misc.writing, saying ...


Hillian


--
gekko

Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so
popular?

Josh Hill

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Jun 28, 2004, 9:50:40 PM6/28/04
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High praise indeed. Perhaps I should start an online journal.

Ray Haddad

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Jun 28, 2004, 9:53:05 PM6/28/04
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You could call it Hilligan's Island.

Pick your seven castaways, Josh. Who would you be marooned with?

Ray

Thomas Armagost

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Jun 28, 2004, 10:58:37 PM6/28/04
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In message <GYidnZRZBq4...@adelphia.com>,
"Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote:

> "Jackson Pillock" <Jac...@splatter.com> wrote
>
>>:>:> "Zero" <shakub...@aol.com> wrote:
>>:>:>: "Thomas Armagost" <si...@well.com> wrote:
>>:>:>:> Ray Haddad <rha...@iexpress.net.au> wrote:
>
>>:>:>:>> Not only do you LOOK like Michael Moore . . .
>
>>:>:>:> Poor old Deck Deckert looked like a bit like Michael Moore.
>>:>:>:> Zero more closely resembles Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
>
>>:>:>: or Jerry Garcia.

Radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr?
<http://media.msnbc.msn.com/j/msnbc/1895000/1895362.hmedium.jpg>

Or maybe radical Muslim cleric Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Masri?
<http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030406/wd4.jpg>

>> Hard to say. Here, study this ink blot:
>

>> What does it look like to you? Say the first thing that comes
>> to mind.
>
> conspiracy.
>
> <g>

Masonic?
<http://mwphglwa.org/images/MasonicEmblems/G_surrounded_by_Iris.jpg>

Maybe the little devils are just trying to get your goat.
<http://www.deathandhell.com/images2/spgoat01.jpg>

I'm off to the tinfoil hat fashion show.

pandora

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Jun 28, 2004, 10:41:42 PM6/28/04
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"Josh Hill" <Josh44...@snet.net> wrote in message
news:9pd1e05a8etgual2r...@4ax.com...

Probably you're right.

> Reminds me of when, many years ago, the White House released the first
> Nixon tapes. My grandmother, a lifelong Republican and a Nixon
> supporter, was scandalized by the expletives deleted. His foul-mouthed
> language turned her against him when no amount of skullduggery had
> been able to.

Sad. I was just the opposite; I didn't give a fuck what expletives he used
but I DID care about his skullduggery.

Marg

Josh Hill

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Jun 28, 2004, 11:15:05 PM6/28/04
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:41:42 -0700, "pandora" <pan...@peak.org>
wrote:

The thing that got me about it wasn't so much that he used a few cuss
words -- Harry Truman was famous for that -- but that he used them so
frequently. Have you ever known somebody who cursed so much?

Alan Hope

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Jun 29, 2004, 3:09:56 AM6/29/04
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Zero goes:

>i mean, i'm not one of those whiny Christians who falsely believe
>that they're being persecuted just to make themselves feel important,
>and/or righteous, FFS.

No, of course. You're a pseudo-Sicilian who falsely believes etc.

All paranoids are narcissists. The very basis of paranoia is
narcissistic. It depends on you being important enough for anyone to
want to shut you up.

Whereas the reality is, Peter, that nobody cares. You post, you don;t
post, it's neither here nor there.

All alien-abductees are similarly narcissistic. But that's another
chapter.


--
AH

Thomas Armagost

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Jun 29, 2004, 7:46:50 AM6/29/04
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Wendy Chatley Green

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Jun 29, 2004, 7:38:52 AM6/29/04
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For some inexplicable reasons, Josh Hill <Josh44...@snet.net>
wrote:

:> Given your stance, you appear to condemn any Administration


:>official who, while working in his car, shouts "SHIT!" after dropping
:>an alternator on his foot. I'll bet that, in the same circumstances,
:>you wouldn't use the word "ouch."
:
:Me? I'd say it on network TV during a meeting with the Pope. But that,
:of course, is the point. It's hypocritical to ban from the airwaves
:language that we use at home, and it's doubly hypocritical to do so
:when that language is used by high elected officials at a
:Congressional function.

What Congressional function? Congress was not in session,
which makes this incident a couple of guys standing in a famous place.

:The circumstances are not precisely parallel,


:but from my perspective they're close enough to qualify this as a "do
:as I say, not as I do."

Only because you vehemently disagee with one of the officials
involved and with the administration. If someone said "Fuck you!" to
Cheney, you would be posting differently.

That means we can argue about the incident, but we cannot
debate it. You lack the required emotional distance to be objective.

Zero

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Jun 29, 2004, 8:45:19 AM6/29/04
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"Alan Hope" <ah...@skynet.be> wrote in message
news:i752e0pnhd6ioqi7h...@4ax.com...

> Zero goes:
>
> >i mean, i'm not one of those whiny Christians who falsely
> >believe that they're being persecuted just to make themselves
> >feel important, and/or righteous, FFS.
>
> No, of course. You're a pseudo-Sicilian who falsely believes etc.

whatEVer.


> All paranoids are narcissists.

all cuckwits attribute all malice to incompetence.

but yeah, i suppose i do admire myself more than say,
you admire yourself. and others admire themselves.

does that scan, cuckwit?


>The very basis of paranoia is narcissistic.

the very basis of cuckwittery is the absence of paranoia.


> It depends on you being important enough for
> anyone to want to shut you up.

Gawd. what a lousy journalist you are.

but man, i sure ain't gonna cop to being important
enough to shut up.

i mean, what's the upside to that?

apparently though, anyone who isn't a complete idiot
is "important enough" to "shut up." duh.

otherwise, we'd all hear much more intelligent debate.

in the mainstream media.

ask Michael Moore, who has to pose as a complete
discredited clown in order to get the minorest airtime,
about "being important enough to shut up".

i mean, it's a Catch 22 innit.


> Whereas the reality is, Peter, that nobody cares.

sure.

>You post, you don;t post,

yeah, right.

all the hacking, etc., is just part of my bickerfest.com imagination.

> it's neither here nor there.

yep. that's certainly true. congrats.


> All alien-abductees are similarly narcissistic.

and all useless journalists are well paid.


> But that's another chapter.

the National Enqurer is one of the best selling "papers" in America.

and it's not because the average IQ in America = retard.

HTH

gekko

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Jun 29, 2004, 9:58:15 AM6/29/04
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Skip this part. It's only an attribution telling you that Josh Hill <Josh44...@snet.net> wrote in <bdd1e05q2l49emj88...@4ax.com>:

aka: Seek to reduce the number of times children and others who may not be
exposed to that language at home get exposed to it during the peak times that
they use that language.


> language that we use at home,

aka: language *you* use at home.


> and it's doubly hypocritical to do so
> when that language is used by high elected officials at a

aka: adults conversing among themselves


> Congressional function.

aka: a place where two adults happen to be standing when Congress is
not in session.


> The circumstances are not precisely parallel,

Sending a rocket into space and playing with Barbie dolls are also not
precisely parallel.


> but from my perspective

aka: Josh has manufactured some outrage so that he can spray spittle and
froth about on Usenet, as is his wont.


> they're close enough to qualify this as a "do as I say, not as I do."

You misspelled "Don't use popular broadcast times and television programs
to expose people needlessly and gratuitously to language to which they may be
sensitive, but if you find a need to use that language yourself in an adult
situation where the *tools* of language work to your advantage, then
feel free."

Glad I could clear that up for you.


--
gekko

I've had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it. - Groucho Marx (1895-1977)

Keltic

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Jun 29, 2004, 10:12:22 AM6/29/04
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:34:21 +0000 (UTC), "Jackson Pillock"
<Jac...@splatter.com> wrote:

> *
>
>What does it look like to you? Say the first thing that comes to mind.

Anus.

Cheers, Keltic

gekko

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Jun 29, 2004, 11:50:21 AM6/29/04
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Anal retentive correction, because fuckwits like Josh and Zen have
jismed over unclear wording in the past and I'm mean enough to
want to deny Josh and Zen the paroxysmic delight they'd get in grammar
laming me this time.

Twas brillig, and gekko <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> was slithy with the <slrnce2tbm....@enews2.newsguy.com> when in misc.writing they said:
>
> aka: Seek to reduce the number of times children and others who may not be
> exposed to that language at home get exposed to it during the peak times that
> they use that language.

... get exposed to it during peak television viewing times.


> Glad I could clear that up for you.

Heh.


--
gekko

Why are seagulls called seagulls? Because if they flew over the bay they'd be called bagels.

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