whatever happened to all the music?
$Zero
i was channel surfing the other day when i paused on one of those Time-
Life music collection infomercials.
this one was promoting a sixties package of some sort.
wow.
every single song was super familiar, unique, and majorly moving in
one way or another.
and i thought to myself, whatever happened to all the music?
there was a time when almost everyone, no matter what their age, could
identify a popular tune of the day, but no more.
popular music was a dynamic that started in the twenties and continued
on into the late eighties, but somehow, it stopped.
what happened?
can you name even five popular songs which were made over the last
fifteen to twenty years that most everyone else would recognize?
i doubt it.
but certainly not ten of them.
wtf.
-$Zero...
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Bill Penrose
> and i thought to myself, whatever happened to all the music?
It's all been written.
Stands to reason with just so many notes, and beats, etc., that they'd
run out of combinations someday.
Someday all the stories will have been written, too.
DB
$Zero
> On Jul 3, 1:56 pm, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > and i thought to myself, whatever happened to all the music?
>
> It's all been written.
not even close.
> Stands to reason with just so many notes, and beats, etc., that they'd
> run out of combinations someday.
no, actually that doesn't stand to reason, especially given the
infinite amount of possible stylistic treatments, let alone the near-
infinite amount of combinations of notes and beats -- not to mention
harmonies.
and add lyrics to that?
yikes.
"someday" would certainly not happen within a thousand years, let
alone sixty.
> Someday all the stories will have been written, too.
i'm watching the July Fourth weekend Twilight Zone marathon as we
speak.
and even thinking of that series alongside the entire Honeymooners
collection, methinks that the potential for all the stories to be
written will be mighty far off into the future as well.
no, i have to strongly disagree with your diagnosis, Doctor Bill.
i think it has to do with the over-commercialization of art and
literature more than anything else.
formula has replaced creativity.
when producers require 25-words-or-less summaries before they'll even
consider investing in an artistic creation, the world has turned to
shit.
IOW: Skip to maloo my darling.
-$Zero...
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LN
> whatever happened to all the music?
What?
>
> i was channel surfing the other day when i paused on one of those Time-
> Life music collection infomercials.
Why?
>
> this one was promoting a sixties package of some sort.
You mean rock 'n roll.
>
> wow.
Cosmic.
>
> every single song was super familiar, unique, and majorly moving in
> one way or another.
The 1910 Fruitgum Company's, "1-2-3 Redlight," included?
>
> and i thought to myself, whatever happened to all the music?
You said Time-Life had it.
>
> there was a time when almost everyone, no matter what their age, could
> identify a popular tune of the day, but no more.
Wrong. Vague and wrong.
>
> popular music was a dynamic that started in the twenties and continued
> on into the late eighties, but somehow, it stopped.
There's more well-performed music now with higher production values than
there's ever been in history.
>
> what happened?
You stopped listening.
>
> can you name even five popular songs which were made over the last
> fifteen to twenty years that most everyone else would recognize?
Of course not. Such a time never existed.
>
> i doubt it.
This makes us look like we agree but you know we don't.
>
> but certainly not ten of them.
I already answered that.
>
> wtf.
No, WTC ain't nuthin' to fuck wit.
LNC
Bill Penrose
> and even thinking of that series alongside the entire Honeymooners
> collection, methinks that the potential for all the stories to be
> written will be mighty far off into the future as well.
With 400,000 new books in the English language appearing in 2007, I
think we've reached the monkeys and typewriters stage. You have to buy
a lot of books to find 'Hamlet'.
This explains a lot about MW.
DB
$Zero
> $Zero wrote:
> > whatever happened to all the music?
>
> What?
huh?
> > i was channel surfing the other day when i paused on one of those Time-
> > Life music collection infomercials.
>
> Why?
why not.
the teaser playing at that given moment probably prompted me to want
to hear more.
> > this one was promoting a sixties package of some sort.
>
> You mean rock 'n roll.
and folk, and some bubblegum, too, i think.
flower power stuff mostly.
> > wow.
>
> Cosmic.
dude.
> > every single song was super familiar, unique, and majorly moving in
> > one way or another.
>
> The 1910 Fruitgum Company's, "1-2-3 Redlight," included?
i don't recall.
> > and i thought to myself, whatever happened to all the music?
>
> You said Time-Life had it.
the question went to whatever happened to all of the new music, not
the old stuff which was a part of our common Life-Time.
> > there was a time when almost everyone, no matter what their age, could
> > identify a popular tune of the day, but no more.
>
> Wrong. Vague and wrong.
i disagree.
from the twenties thru the late eighties, there was a far more
commonly known popular music than there has been over the past twenty
years or so.
> > popular music was a dynamic that started in the twenties and continued
> > on into the late eighties, but somehow, it stopped.
>
> There's more well-performed music now with higher production values than
> there's ever been in history.
that may well be true but it doesn't refute my point in any way
whatsoever.
> > what happened?
>
> You stopped listening.
no. but if so, you may be confusing cause and effect.
> > can you name even five popular songs which were made over the last
> > fifteen to twenty years that most everyone else would recognize?
>
> Of course not. Such a time never existed.
sure it did.
i could name well more than five artists from the popular music era i
speak of, and each of them had more than five songs which most
everyone could identify.
that's true even now, but it was certainly true during their own time
of popularity.
for instance: Sinatra, Elvis, The Beatles, Neil Diamond, Rolling
Stones, Madonna, Barry Manilow (sp), Michael Jackson, etc..
not to mention all those one-hit wonders that most everyone knew/
knows.
there used to be a Top-40 thinger.
week in, week out.
the same does not apply to the current music scene.
you couldn't have a show like "Name That Tune" based on the nineties
and the oughties. there'd be no widespread audience for it.
> > i doubt it.
>
> This makes us look like we agree but you know we don't.
you know it's true.
the concept of popular music is a thing of the past.
> > but certainly not ten of them.
>
> I already answered that.
thus demonstrating my point, but using a logic which doesn't hold up
to reality.
> > wtf.
>
> No, WTC ain't nuthin' to fuck wit.
huh?
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$Zero
> On Jul 3, 2:29 pm, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > and even thinking of that series alongside the entire Honeymooners
> > collection, methinks that the potential for all the stories to be
> > written will be mighty far off into the future as well.
>
> With 400,000 new books in the English language appearing in 2007, I
> think we've reached the monkeys and typewriters stage.
not when the 400,000 monkeys spend all of their time mimicking
eachothers crap.
monkey see monkey do will never get the monkeys out of the crap loop.
> You have to buy a lot of books to find 'Hamlet'.
no, just one.
heh. what a smartass i am.
> This explains a lot about MW.
there's a lot of things which explain a lot about MW.
Pies de Arcilla
> can you name even five popular songs which were made over the last
> fifteen to twenty years that most everyone else would recognize?
November Rain - Guns N' Roses
Losing My Religion - R.E.M.
Come As You Are - Nirvana
Enter Sandman - Metallica
Black Hole Sun - Soundgarden
Thomas Armagost
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$Zero
i only recognize one of the above by title.
perhaps if i heard them all, i might recognize more.
-$Zero...
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Thomas Armagost
Remember America's tsunami?
I wanted to answer Zero's question "whatever happened to all the
music?" So I mentioned the New Orleans Musicians' Village project.
However, I'd be irresponsible if I didn't add the horrific caveat
that the levees are no safer today than they were when Katrina hit.
Heck of a job, Corps of Engineers.
> http://www.habitat-nola.org/projects/musicians_village.php
"On January 9, 2006 NOAHH purchased eight acres of land in the
Upper 9th Ward where the core area of the Musicians' Village
is now located. Construction began in March 2006 and as of
December 2007 70 single family homes are either complete or
under construction! [...] NOAHH owns and is building on over
90 lots in the surrounding Upper 9th Ward neighborhood."