Some of the modern painters intrigue me, like Chagall and even Agnes Martin,
the minimalist of minimalists. I'm not sure why I like her stuff, but it's
so plain. Maybe that's why. I like plain food, plain colors, etc.
But if I could write the way one artist paints, I suppose I'd like to write
like Van Gogh. He says so much to me from one painting. His emotion's
right there on the canvas, every time, you know? I'd like that quality to
shine through my own work, to give it eternal life. Hard to do. Perhaps
impossible, but it's worth trying.
Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints, who might
it be?
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>
>I can't decide. I really love so many of the impressionists, including
>those whose names might not be immediately recognizable, like Fantin-Latour,
>Lebasque, and Bonnard.
snip
>Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints, who might
>it be?
David Hockney.
I've always wanted to capture the character of a local as part of my
story
David captures the character of southern CAlifornia so well, even in
his studies of people.
Eliska (as an artist, I also like to capture the character of a locale
in my paintings)
> .....And if you could write like one painter paints, who might
> it be?
>
Some days, it's Edvard Munch ... other days it's Norman
Rockwell just because I really like the kindliness and
humanity in his paintings.
Today it's Edvard Munch. I keep thinking of "The Scream"
today, but more often than not, i think about the one with
the three women on the bridge, holding parasols, looking
over the side. Can't remember the title. That one
fascinates me.
ing
><snip>
>Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints, who might
>it be?
Mix Edvard "Fast Eddie" Munch, Vincent "Mono-ear" Van Gogh, and
Salvador "You want black ants with that?" Dali, and that's who I
like... but you know, it varies from story to story.
I'm currently writing a story which takes place in medieval Japan; it
is pure Hokusai (if Hokusai studied under H.R. Giger).
I've notes for a story based on Picasso's "Weeping Woman"; I've found
backstory inspiration looking at a Paul Klee; I've gotten mood from
Art Deco prints.
The arts are often overlapping; some people you would never think of
are actually accomplished artists: Clive Barker, Sylvester Stallone,
and, um, Adolf Hitler.
---
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>
>I can't decide. I really love so many of the impressionists, including
>those whose names might not be immediately recognizable, like Fantin-Latour,
>Lebasque, and Bonnard.
>But if I could write the way one artist paints, I suppose I'd like to write
>like Van Gogh. He says so much to me from one painting. His emotion's
>right there on the canvas, every time, you know? I'd like that quality to
>shine through my own work, to give it eternal life. Hard to do. Perhaps
>impossible, but it's worth trying.
>
>Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints, who might
>it be?
well deck and i went to a local art museum and the one painting we
were both immediately drawn to was a Monet.
A. (it would have looked GREAT in our living room. but for some reason
the security people objected when we started measuring it for fit...)
*********************
Here on the level sand
Between the sea and land,
What shall I build or write
Against the fall of night?
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> well deck and i went to a local art museum and the one painting we
> were both immediately drawn to was a Monet.
Oh, you'd love my mum-in-law. She doesn't copy Monet in any way. She has
her own thing going, but sometimes, she can be so incredibly Monet-esque
it's awesome. She has this purple painting that I covet.
But she gave me this incredible cabbage plant painting for my birthday that
I'm just ga-ga over. She painted the most incredible copper patina.
She's one of my favorite painters, too.
--
Pat M. And I have many of her paintings. I'm truly blessed.
I noticed this and I just wanted to say that I like to do that as well even
though I'm not an artist. I think, to me, it's an essential part of the
story in most of my writing.
Marg
I never much cared for Chagall until I spent most of a long
afternoon in the Chagall museum in Nice. Pictures of his work do
not capture his work _at _all. I became a huge fan. I'd never
realized the scope of his work or the wide variety of things he's
done besides painting.
I also visited the Renoir Museum in Cagnes-Sur-Mer, where we were
staying. Renoir's home and gardens were certainly worth the
visit, but the impact of how I felt about the painter was nothing
compared to my change of heart re Chagall. The Fondation Maeght
in St. Paul-de-Vence is also worth a visit if you're in the
neighborhood.
Ah, Chagall.
> But if I could write the way one artist paints, I suppose I'd like to
> write like Van Gogh. He says so much to me from one painting. His
> emotion's right there on the canvas, every time, you know? I'd like
> that quality to shine through my own work, to give it eternal life.
> Hard to do. Perhaps impossible, but it's worth trying.
>
> Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints, who
> might it be?
Domenicos Theotocopoulos. El Greco. I'd like to make people feel
what I feel looking at View of Toledo: dark, stormy, electric,
unsettled.
Unsettled.
Sal
An unauthorized Picasso film could not show one of his paintings
Hugh W
live music and real paintings
pleasures
Hugh W
>
>I can't decide. I really love so many of the impressionists, including
>those whose names might not be immediately recognizable, like Fantin-Latour,
>Lebasque, and Bonnard.
>
>Some of the modern painters intrigue me, like Chagall and even Agnes Martin,
>the minimalist of minimalists. I'm not sure why I like her stuff, but it's
>so plain. Maybe that's why. I like plain food, plain colors, etc.
>
>But if I could write the way one artist paints, I suppose I'd like to write
>like Van Gogh. He says so much to me from one painting. His emotion's
>right there on the canvas, every time, you know? I'd like that quality to
>shine through my own work, to give it eternal life. Hard to do. Perhaps
>impossible, but it's worth trying.
>
>Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints, who might
>it be?
>
>--
>Pat M. Did you ever think such things? I'm pensive today. Must be the
>impending storm.
Can't just take one: Edward Hopper, David Mack, Rene Magritte,
Salvador Dali...
But I'd also put in non-painters; that is, those who have worked
mostly in pen-and-ink illustrations. Franklin Booth is a big one; the
guy put so damn much detail in his penwork and dry-brush artwork.
Two artists, working in virtually all mediums, Michael Zulli and
Michael Bryant, consistently blow me away.
Red Grooms, whose paintings will often spill over the frame into
papier-mache sculpture, is another fave.
And Frank Miller, whose recent comic-book black-and-white work has
amazed for the lines he does NOT put in as much as what he does. If
"writers write everything, even the spaces," then Miller paints in
empty space.
Write as a painter? Hmm. Either as Edward Hopper, limning characters
and their desperations with note-perfect meticulousness, or as Seurat,
building character, plot, and action from pointillist descriptions,
dot by dot; word by word.
Alex Jay Berman
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>
> Write as a painter? Hmm. Either as Edward Hopper, limning characters
> and their desperations with note-perfect meticulousness, or as Seurat,
> building character, plot, and action from pointillist descriptions,
> dot by dot; word by word.
Oooh, yeah. Hopper paints like a writer.
--
Pat M. Definitely Hopper, for mysteries.
I get homesick every time I read James Lee Burke's Dave Robicheaux
stories set in south Louisiana
Eliska
>live music and real paintings
>
>pleasures
>
>Hugh W
I have had experiences (psychiatrists might call them hallucinations)
when I have seen certain paintings and been so overwhelmed that I
actually heard music in my head.
Happened in museums in New York, Chicago, New Orleans, D.C. and St
Petersburg.
Often I have been so captivated by a certain potion of a painting that
I stare and stare at it, almost like I imagine an acid trip to be.
Eliska
> Pat M. wrote: Did you ever think such things? I'm pensive today.
After reading _The Last Avant Garde_ which discussed the connection between
the New School of Poets and the New York School of Painters (Jackson
Pollack, William DeKooning (sp?) and those that directly followed them),
yes I think about this a lot.
I must admit that my own tastes vary from the Abstract Expresionists all
the way to someone like Andrew Wyeth or Norman Rockwell. However, when it
comes to the Pop artists, I understand their statements but believe that
those statements are better made in the writing arts than with the visual
arts.
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> >
> I get homesick every time I read James Lee Burke's Dave Robicheaux
> stories set in south Louisiana
Well, I'm not from Lou-si-ana, but I do love James Lee Burke.
--
Pat M. Student of Raymond Carver, BTW.
I love the French impressionists: Renoir, Monet and Raul Dufy painted
feelings. Manet painted life. Paul Gaugin's simplicity speaks more
than all the words ever written about the South Pacific. Van Gogh
painted raw emotion on every canvas. If I could write like a painter, I
think I would choose Manet.
Barbara
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The Dutch school turned out some powerful works.
Barbara
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Hieronymous Bosch.
Bill
Ah! I forgot him. (Add him to my list).
---
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I can do that with a cracked wall or paint peeling ruin - one cab see
landscapes as in clouds too
Magritte and da Vinci did too
Hugh W
from http://www.freedonia.com/panic/panic_contents.html
http://www.freedonia.com/panic/masterpieces/masterpieces.html
>>Panic Masterpieces
Florence Can Knock You Out
FLORENCE, Italy
- Some visitors to Florence panic before a Raphael masterpiece.
Others go into a frenzy when confronted with a Caravaggio.
Still others collapse at the feet of Michelangelo's statue of David.
Psychiatrists call it the "Stendhal syndrome."
At least once a month on average, a foreign tourist is rushed to the
psychiatric ward of Florence's Santa Maria Nuova hospital suffering from
an acute mental imbalance seemingly brought on by an encounter with the
city's art treasures. << etc
>>>The condition, documented since 1982 by the hospital's psychiatric
team, was dubbed the Stendhal syndrome after the French writer who
recorded a similar emotional experience on his first visit to the Tuscan
city in 1817.
"On leaving the Santa Croce church, I felt a pulsating in my heart,"
Stendhal wrote in his first book, Naples and Florence: A Journey from
Milan to Reggio Calabria.
"Life was draining out of me, while I walked fearing a fall."
While those affected are few among the millions of tourists who pour into
Florence every year, they are sufficiently numerous to have given rise to
a study due to be published next year by the city authorities.
"In eight years, we have had 107 victims of the syndrome," Magherini said.
"That is not a lot statistically but it is certainly interesting from a
clinical viewpoint."<<<
>> The cultural and historical impact of Florence is overwhelming.<<
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/dest/eur/flo.htm
>>If you experience a peculiar giddy feeling after visiting the Church of
Santa Croce, don't despair.
It's probable that you've succumbed to Stendhal's Disease,
an illness diagnosed in about 12 visitors to Florence a year, and dating
from the French writer's own feelings of culture shock and bedazzlement
when he visited the church in the early 19th century<<
also in a film seen !
http://www.google.com/search?q=Stendhal%27s+Disease&hl=en&safe=off&btnG=Google+Search
>>>The French writer Stendhal expressed a feeling of culture shock - a
giddy faintness that left him unable to walk after he was dazzled by the
magnificence of the Chiesa di Santa Croce.
This condition is now known as Stendhalismo, or Stendhal's Disease, and
Florence doctors treat up to 12 cases a year.<<<
http://www.italyguide.com/Firenze/Firenze_sotto.htm
http://www.google.com/search?q=film+Stendhal%27s+Syndrome&hl=en&safe=off
http://www.darkdreams.org/stendhal3.html
>>THE STENDHAL SYNDROME
aka
LA SINDROME DI STENDHAL
STENDHAL'S SYNDROME
( 1996 ) 114 mins
MEDUSA FILM ; ITALY<< not a perfect film but good fun!
>>> As the opening credits roll we are treated to a cascade of some of the
world's greatest works of art, thus setting the tone for one of Dario
Argento's greatest works of art.
<<< >>>The print I saw was a little over 120 minutes where some only run
around 90.<< be warned!
>>>Surely all of you have heard of the Stendhal's Syndrome (by the way,
Argento has made a movie about it, featuring his gorgeous daughter
Asia). But this case seems to be more like a sort of emotional overload,
that hits the critical and analytical skills of the subject ...
But I can't figure out a good theory :(
Any ideas ?
<<< http://www.delta-green.com/comint/dgml/v03/03-198.txt
http://www.ontosofia.it/Extasis/grandi_uomini_eng.htm
>>>The psychotherapeutic work needs coherence between research and facts,
scientific autonomy and wellbeing realized, art and life.
According to this coherence, we want to make evident how many great men
have had some psychosomatic problems and difficulties in family relations,
with consequences instilled in their so called "creative" production.<<<
>>>Stendhal's Syndrome4, for example, can exemplify the meaning of a
negative dynamic, that begins with a work of art and destructively
instills itself in the user-consumer.
Without exaggerating, iconoclasm could positively mean the need to free
oneself from the images in order to grow up and give birth maieutically to
one's own Real Ontic Ego, contrary to a system that virtualizes the human
ego, instilling malaise and alienation in the psychosoma.
If we understand this fact, we can choose pictures to hang up in our
house, avoiding, first of all, the products of the insane.
This, however, doesn't mean that the sense of art of the true human beng
is reduced.<<<
4) cfr. MAGHERINI G., La sindrome di Stendhal, GEF ed., 1989
http://www.google.com/search?q=La+sindrome+di+Stendhal&hl=en&safe=off&btnG=Google+Search
http://digilander.iol.it/darioargento/sindrome.htm
LA SINDROME DI STENDHAL
...of films: LA SINDROME DI STENDHAL (1996) AKA The...
...Ferrini. Based on the book "The Stendhal syndrome" by Graziella
Magherini...
www.so-sweet.cwc.net/Films/la_sindrome_di_stendhal.htm -
The Stendhal Syndrome (UK)
...THE STENDHAL SYNDROME On the trail of a deranged serial rapist and...
...- she suffers from the Stendhal Syndrome, a mental condition which...
www.splatterhouse.net/reviews/s-t/stendhal.htm -
Panic Masterpieces
...Psychiatrists call it the "Stendhal syndrome." At least once a...
...hospital's top specialist, Prof. Graziella Magherini, said in an...
www.freedonia.com/panic/masterpieces/masterpieces.html
Anthony "Looney" Toohey
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two courses of thought or action, we should remember
our dying and try so to live that our death brings no
pleasure to the world.
- John Steinbeck, "East of Eden"
The part of me that wants to incorporate everything in the universe into one
comprehensible work that will live forever--the Great Earth Novel rather
than the Great American Novel, if you will-- chooses Leonardo. He came
closest.
In more limited terms, I want to paint like Georgia O'Keeffe, and if,
instead, my writing were as powerful as her art, I'd still die happy.
Carol Schmidt
>
>But if I could write the way one artist paints, I suppose I'd like to write
>like Van Gogh.
Yeah. Right up there on the top of my list too.
>Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints, who might
>it be?
Oh, well then - add Kandinsky and Chagal, to Van Gogh.
(But none of those really modern guys - I want my poetry to be
understood!)
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You work must be truly interesting.
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"The Chocolate Lady <Davida Chazan>" <drch...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Oh, well then - add Kandinsky and Chagal, to Van Gogh.
>
This is an aside:
Do you know that Kandinsky lived at the Institute for Children's Lit for
awhile? Yep. Wasn't ICL then, of course, belonged to his benefactress.
Lots of history in that building, and it truly looks like their logo.
--
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recognize it. It's right here on the tip... Damn. Can't get it yet.
like?
bad idea
aim to succeed or overtake the greats
Hugh W
> Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints, who
> might it be?
It depends greatly on whose painting I am looking at at the
time.
I always like the Brandywine school and I have rarely seen an
Andy Wyeth I didn't like, although there are a few. But when I
see the intimate reflections Corliss Blakely shows in a business
card you can pluck from a painting, or the expressions Mary Harper
finds on the faces of a watercolor rancher or key deer, or a
flighty Sandy Calder, or the Sully in our living room, I tend to
forget anyone else. Then there are the fun ones like Peter Max'
playful, pop-art posters. His Man on the Moon has the ridiculous
aspects of his 60s posters but it's an heraldic device.
Artists are the key witnesses to history and society in the
making. I would like to get as much detail and local color into my
writing as Wyeth does in his painting with such apparent ease.
That brings up another interesting question. Great artists
make it look easy. Andy Wyeth didn't paint Christina's face,
Ansel Adams just took some black and white pictures, and Paul
Newman just lies on his back eating eggs. Why do critics expect
great writing to be tortured?
--Dick
> Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints, who might
> it be?
Gaugin. Or Manet.
> I'm currently writing a story which takes place in medieval Japan; it
> is pure Hokusai (if Hokusai studied under H.R. Giger)
I've seen stuff like this in OMNI magazine. Years and years ago.
I was in DC when they had a huge Gaugin exhibit. I got in right near
closing time and was herded like a sheep through room after room,
never getting close enough or far enough from a painting to really
appreciate.
Just as they were about to push the last of the viewers out for the
day, I turned back unnoticed by the guards and went back. When they
found me, I was sitting quietly on a bench, my heart damn near stopped
from the impact of all that color and form.
Eliska
> Just as they were about to push the last of the viewers out for the
> day, I turned back unnoticed by the guards and went back. When they
> found me, I was sitting quietly on a bench, my heart damn near stopped
> from the impact of all that color and form.
Read some of the stuff he wrote. He wrote like he painted.
>The arts are often overlapping; some people you would never think of
>are actually accomplished artists: Clive Barker, Sylvester Stallone,
>and, um, Adolf Hitler.
Hitler got a mention in one of Harlan Ellison's shorts, And Hitler
Painted Roses (that's the title, as well as I recall...)
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National gallery in London is great to pop in for a break and just look at
*one* painting from a comfi green leather upholstered bench
Hugh W
>
> Who's your fave?
egon schiele
[list is very long, other names visible: hieronymus bosch, claude monet, amedeo
modigliani, max ernst, odilon redon, giorgio de chirico]
> And if you could write like one painter paints, who might
> it be?
roy lichtenstein
[although sometimes im affected by da vincis reversed writing <g>]
> --
> Pat M. Did you ever think such things? I'm pensive today. Must be the
> impending storm.
yes, i understand.
thanks pat.
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>Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints, who might
>it be?
i don't know what school it is, but I have this strange attraction to
the deco, angular, Russian Revolution kind of look. Tamara de Lempika
is among my favorites, but the style is really what appeals to me.
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Oh yes. Open shirted, muscular young men with large hammers. Closed
shirted, muscular young women with head scarves purposefully grasping
the levers of large machines. And all of them looking as if they're
standing into a strong wind.
>Tamara de Lempika
> is among my favorites, but the style is really what appeals to me.
Oh. Never mind. Seriously, I think one could put together an
interesting juxtaposition of her work with Soviet work, work, work for
the state, state, state posters and reflect on the contrasts.
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>"Jason K. Chapman" wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:44:51 -0400, "Pat Marcello" <pa...@prodigy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints, who might
>> >it be?
>>
>> i don't know what school it is, but I have this strange attraction to
>> the deco, angular, Russian Revolution kind of look.
>
>Oh yes. Open shirted, muscular young men with large hammers. Closed
>shirted, muscular young women with head scarves purposefully grasping
>the levers of large machines. And all of them looking as if they're
>standing into a strong wind.
>
Well, yes, actually. There's a certain strength, a sense of
indomitable spirit to them, don't you think? A feeling of
"self-direction," is perhaps what I'm reaching for. Even in Portrait
of Margery Perry, which has little of the muscular wind-in-the-hair
look.
<http://www.csupomona.edu/~plin/women2/images/lempika2_big.jpg>
>>Tamara de Lempika
>> is among my favorites, but the style is really what appeals to me.
>
>Oh. Never mind. Seriously, I think one could put together an
>interesting juxtaposition of her work with Soviet work, work, work for
>the state, state, state posters and reflect on the contrasts.
Even in the simple portraits, the backgrounds tend to be strong,
angular, industrial backgrounds. Like these two:
<http://www.csupomona.edu/~plin/women2/images/lempika3_big.jpg>
<http://sunsite.auc.dk/cgfa/lempicka/p-lempick4.htm>.
Don't ask me why I like that. I think it's because trees happen, but
buildings are MADE.
Well, I think one of the things that makes her work *and* the Soviet
worker poster art attractive is that the subjects are TOTALLY being what
they are. There's not the slightest doubt about who they are, nor does
it take any effort at all to see it. I think that lets the stylized
backgrounds turn the realism to something more expressive, a very real
fantasy, I might call it. It strikes me that several writers could be
set to independent tasks of writing a sketch of one subject and that
they would all likely characterize them in much the same way.
Actually, its the folks swimming in lakes of burning sulfur that amuse
me most.
Bill
There is yet another Hieronymous Bosch; Harry Bosch, the detective in
Michael Connolley's series. Great books!!!
Eliska
they can draw
Hugh W
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 14:44:51 -0400, "Pat Marcello" <pa...@prodigy.net>
> wrote:
> >Who's your fave? And if you could write like one painter paints,
> >who might it be?
> Hieronymous Bosch.
Okay, cool.
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> Hitler got a mention in one of Harlan Ellison's shorts, And Hitler
> Painted Roses (that's the title, as well as I recall...)
Hmmmmm... Churchill painted, too. I don't think Roosevelt, Stalin or
Hirohito painted, but I wouldn't put it past Mussolini. There's the
making of an exhibit (or book) here, I think...
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> In article <47nasss3tk0fporq0...@4ax.com>,
> Keltic <kel...@SPAM.zip.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Hitler got a mention in one of Harlan Ellison's shorts, And Hitler
> > Painted Roses (that's the title, as well as I recall...)
>
> Hmmmmm... Churchill painted, too. I don't think Roosevelt, Stalin or
> Hirohito painted, but I wouldn't put it past Mussolini. There's the
> making of an exhibit (or book) here, I think...
Eisenhower painted, too.
dmh
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