Piss Buddha
Archer070
Paul Heslop
>
> What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
what? One piss taking?
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>Archer070 wrote:
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>> What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
>
>what? One piss taking?
Too easy. That sound is *tinkle*
Hound
Mugwump
Archer070 wrote:
> What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
Let me try.....what is the sound of clap? ......."Ooooo, that burns."
Scott Elyard
pzisel...@iname.com (Hound of Cullen) wrote:
> >what? One piss taking?
>
> Too easy. That sound is *tinkle*
>
> Hound
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>
> In article <Xns90A364296185Fpz...@207.126.101.97>,
> pzisel...@iname.com (Hound of Cullen) wrote:
>
> > >what? One piss taking?
> >
> > Too easy. That sound is *tinkle*
> >
> > Hound
>
> Happy little bells?
>
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> What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
Svein Olav
Blanche Nonken
What?
Svein Olav Nyberg
> > > What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
> >
> > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>
> What?
There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
Svein Olav
Blanche Nonken
Migwamp
Svein Olav Nyberg wrote:
That's okay, as long as they don't try to call it art. :-)
But seriously though, in Buddhism the idea is to become free of
desires. But many Buddhist teachers have made the point that the desire
to be enlightened can be the hardest desire to extinguish. In that case
Buddha himself may be the final obstacle for a Buddhist to overcome.
Maybe the Zen masters were trying to overcome that last obstacle by
pissing on Buddhas. But I doubt that their actions were meant to be an
exhibition for public display.
Have you ever heard that expression: if you ever meet Buddha on the
road, kill him. I think that is what the expression is refering to. It
doesn't mean that Buddha needs to be killed. It means that Buddha
himself may be the final obsctacle in your path to enlightenment.
I suppose that there will be people who will say that Serrano was
just saying the same thing.
But that message only makes sense to someone who is ready to cross
that final barrier. It is lost on everyone else. If you kill Buddha
before you get to that point, you may never get any farther.
I think if Serrano's act was intended for his own enlightenment, he
would not have needed to put it on public display. And if it was
intended to enlighten the rest of us, I think it failed. Perhaps Serrano
should work on his own enlightenment instead of worrying about the rest
of us.
>
>
> Svein Olav
Gerald Clough
>
> Svein Olav Nyberg wrote:
>
> > Blanche Nonken <mombl...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
> > > >
> > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
> > >
> > > What?
> >
> > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>
> That's okay, as long as they don't try to call it art. :-)
>
> But seriously though, in Buddhism the idea is to become free of
> desires. But many Buddhist teachers have made the point that the desire
> to be enlightened can be the hardest desire to extinguish.
Indeed. Attachment to the desire to become The Buddha might be said to
be the ultimate mistake, as is the desire to avoid the desire.
> In that case
> Buddha himself may be the final obstacle for a Buddhist to overcome.
> Maybe the Zen masters were trying to overcome that last obstacle by
> pissing on Buddhas. But I doubt that their actions were meant to be an
> exhibition for public display.
Certeninly not. Public display is not an issue. Of course, neither is
avoidance of public display.
> Have you ever heard that expression: if you ever meet Buddha on the
> road, kill him. I think that is what the expression is refering to. It
> doesn't mean that Buddha needs to be killed. It means that Buddha
> himself may be the final obsctacle in your path to enlightenment.
If you meet the Buddha as yourself, kill that notion, because you're
mistaken. If you meet another whom you believe to be The Buddha, kill
that notion, too. If you anticipate meeting The Buddha, kill that
notion, also. If you find yourself watchful for meeting The Buddha, kill
that watchfulness.
> I suppose that there will be people who will say that Serrano was
> just saying the same thing.
> But that message only makes sense to someone who is ready to cross
> that final barrier. It is lost on everyone else. If you kill Buddha
> before you get to that point, you may never get any farther.
Yes. All paths begin with the desire to become The Buddha, in whatever
guise. The role of the teacher is largely to keep you from seeking The
Buddha until you are prepared to recognize the mistake when you make it.
> I think if Serrano's act was intended for his own enlightenment, he
> would not have needed to put it on public display. And if it was
> intended to enlighten the rest of us, I think it failed. Perhaps Serrano
> should work on his own enlightenment instead of worrying about the rest
> of us.
It that was the intent, it appears rather a demonstration of his mistake
of imagining himself as enlightened or such a master who might teach
with a sudden stroke. The masters would not piss on a Buddha as a
demonstration that they were enlightened and thus entitled or obliged to
do so. The great teacher sets aside his own enlightenment in order to
teach.
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Gerald Clough wrote:
Exactly.
I guess what I have been trying to say from the beginning is that we have
two elements here, the spiritual and the artistic.
My first impression of Piss Christ was that it was not spiritual, *mainly*
because it has so much potential to create divisions.
Let's face it, wars have begun over less.
Then we have the artistic element. There is a trend in art these days that
seems to want to remain so elusive that *no one* can pin it down. Acctually I
can appreciate that. I like art to be free to express itself however it likes.
But I think that, at times, unscrupulous artists are willing to *use that* to
*dupe* the public.
So I have two elements to go by here, regarding Piss Christ, the spiritual
and the artistic. If it had reached me on the spiritual level, I might have
been willing to be more charitable on the artistic level. But Piss Christ is
straining me on both levels.
Even if I had immediately "gotten" Piss Christ on an artistic level; even
if I knew that that particular piece was both the spiritual and artistic
culmination of Serrano's very life; even if Serrano himself had of asked me
if he should exhibit it, I would have said no.
I think the potential for misunderstandings are too big to make it
worthwhile, spiritually speaking.
Starting a religious war is not spiritual. Piss Christ may not have done
that, but it was pushing the limits, and I doubt very seriously if it
enlightened anyone.
So people like gekko, can accuse me of knee-jerk reactions if they like,
but the truth is that I have mulled this over in my mind for years.
But I plead guilty to putting spiritual matters ahead of artistic matters
when I made my judgement. In fact, that is my whole point.
If anyone cares to notice, I have not called for Serrano's head. I am just
saying that I don't think Serrano was working on a spiritual level when he
prodiced Piss Christ. I think he was more absorbed with his own importance as
an artist.
Jesus said: blessed are the peacemakers. I don't think Piss Christ was an
attempt at peacemaking.
I think Piss Christ was a clumsy attempt to express frustration. It was
neither inovative nor unique. It was a petulant expression, in my opinion. All
it says to me is that Serrano was frustrated and gave up.
I think the Dali Lama would think Piss Christ had too much potential to
divide people.
Buddha would never do such a thing. It is unspiritual.
Alan Hope
programme, like this one from Svein Olav Nyberg, calling from
misc.writing:
>Blanche Nonken <mombl...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> What?
What, now what?
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Paul Heslop
Ah, but is 'what?' not the eternal question, Grasshopper?
Hugh Watkins
>There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=Zen+masters+pissing+on+Buddhas&btnG=Google+Search
>>> Alan Watts claims that much of what Buddhist sages mean when they say
nothing is real or that everything is maya (illusion) is that our words
and thoughts about reality are not real in the sense that they are not the
reality they talk and think about.
What ordinary people usually speak and think of as reality is "only a
finger pointing at the moon", say the Zen masters; it is not the moon
itself.
Certain of them have even been known to urinate upon and, in other
instances, burn statues of the Buddha. For a wooden Buddha is only a menu.
Bowing to Buddhas without getting and practicing the meaning of what the
Buddha said is far greater blasphemy than pissing on them!
Occasionally, Buddhists resort to what at first may appear as Orwellian
newspeak, in that they assert that something is its opposite in meaning.
"Nirvana (Paradise) is Samsara (Hell) and Samsara is Nirvana."
Unlike Big Brother, they are not trying to mystify us in order to
dominate. They are just trying to get us around the traps we lay for
ourselves with words.
For Heaven and Hell are states of mind that result from how we perceive
reality.
Perceive it clearly and, even at its worst, there is a terrifying beauty
to behold.
Misapprehend it and fail to function appropriately; the inevitable result
is suffering. <<< http://www3.negia.net/~street/detour/zenarchy4.html
Hugh W
Alan Hope
> I guess what I have been trying to say from the beginning is that we have
>two elements here, the spiritual and the artistic.
That's your first mistake. Art has no obligation to be spiritual, and
the artist no spiritual vocation, necessarily. Why would you assume
otherwise?
> My first impression of Piss Christ was that it was not spiritual, *mainly*
>because it has so much potential to create divisions.
> Let's face it, wars have begun over less.
That's a nonsensical statement. It takes no account of context, for
one thing. I'm pushed to think of an example of a war which started
over something so trivial (or even more trivial!) but if there is such
an example, you may be sure it didn't happen in the US in the latter
half of the 20th century.
> Then we have the artistic element. There is a trend in art these days that
>seems to want to remain so elusive that *no one* can pin it down.
That's not a trend "these days". We're back on this old hamster-wheel.
The use of what we now think of as conventional perspective was
*utterly incomprehensible* to viewers in the late Middle Ages.
Baffling, and bewildering. Hard to imagine, isn't it? The premiere of
Stravinsky's Rite of Spring caused such shock among the audience they
ripped up the seats in the theatre. Art has always been elusive, and
it might be said that it ought to be.
>Acctually I
>can appreciate that. I like art to be free to express itself however it likes.
>But I think that, at times, unscrupulous artists are willing to *use that* to
>*dupe* the public.
I fail to see how the public is being duped in any way by Piss Christ.
It's not a bogus health-food. It's not a charlatan slimming method.
Where is the contract between artist and viewer in which this duping
takes place? Serrano sold the work to one new owner, who presumably is
satisfied with the transaction. What business is it of anyone else?
> So I have two elements to go by here, regarding Piss Christ, the spiritual
>and the artistic. If it had reached me on the spiritual level, I might have
>been willing to be more charitable on the artistic level. But Piss Christ is
>straining me on both levels.
It's wrong of you to judge the work on more than the artistic level.
It's a work of art with polemical intent. You may judge whether its
execution is successful, but you have no right to have your own
spiritual expectations fulfilled, since that was never the artist's
purpose.
> Even if I had immediately "gotten" Piss Christ on an artistic level; even
>if I knew that that particular piece was both the spiritual and artistic
>culmination of Serrano's very life; even if Serrano himself had of asked me
>if he should exhibit it, I would have said no.
> I think the potential for misunderstandings are too big to make it
>worthwhile, spiritually speaking.
> Starting a religious war is not spiritual. Piss Christ may not have done
>that, but it was pushing the limits, and I doubt very seriously if it
>enlightened anyone.
You're in no position to say one way or the other. You've resisted
enlightenment on the most basic of levels, so your judgement of the
possible enlightenment of others is immediately suspect.
> So people like gekko, can accuse me of knee-jerk reactions if they like,
>but the truth is that I have mulled this over in my mind for years.
> But I plead guilty to putting spiritual matters ahead of artistic matters
>when I made my judgement. In fact, that is my whole point.
Then you've come at the work from entirely the wrong direction. You
may mull it over in your mind for some more years if you like, but
you're still not going to get there, starting out from here.
> If anyone cares to notice, I have not called for Serrano's head. I am just
>saying that I don't think Serrano was working on a spiritual level when he
>prodiced Piss Christ. I think he was more absorbed with his own importance as
>an artist.
Then why judge him in spiritual terms if you don't think that's the
level he was working on? Are all artists subject to this examination?
What's the spiritual level on which Michelangelo's David works?
> Jesus said: blessed are the peacemakers. I don't think Piss Christ was an
>attempt at peacemaking.
Absolutely. Nor was it intended to be.
> I think Piss Christ was a clumsy attempt to express frustration. It was
>neither inovative nor unique. It was a petulant expression, in my opinion. All
>it says to me is that Serrano was frustrated and gave up.
You're almost right. He was frustrated and made the piece. That was
his alternative to giving up. It's what artists do, as an alternative
to giving up.
> I think the Dali Lama would think Piss Christ had too much potential to
>divide people.
What the hell, with all due respect to him, does the Dalai Lama have
to do with this?
We haven't heard his view on this, by the way. You're making it all
up.
> Buddha would never do such a thing. It is unspiritual.
Buddha wasn't an artist, was he? He'd never have composed the Saint
Matthew Passion either. Yet that's as spiritual as all get out.
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Scott Elyard
wrote:
> Exactly.
>
>
> I guess what I have been trying to say from the beginning is that we have
> two elements here, the spiritual and the artistic.
If that's what you've been saying from the beginning (or trying to say),
you need to spend a few months learning to communicate better.
> My first impression of Piss Christ was that it was not spiritual, *mainly*
> because it has so much potential to create divisions.
That sentiment makes no damn sense whatsoever. Clarify. Use less
provincial and non-proprietary definitions, if you please.
> Let's face it, wars have begun over less.
Nobody has been killed over Piss Christ. Killfiled, maybe, but this is
kicking mud into the water.
> Then we have the artistic element. There is a trend in art these days that
> seems to want to remain so elusive that *no one* can pin it down.
There is a trend in your postings of late that makes finding a point in
your statements so elusive that _nobody_ can pin it down.
> Acctually I
> can appreciate that. I like art to be free to express itself however it likes.
> But I think that, at times, unscrupulous artists are willing to *use that* to
> *dupe* the public.
Oh, yes, and the whole of us 'public' people sure don't wanna be duped or
nothin'. We's gotta be pertected from them public-dupin', no-good
artists.
Public can't think for itself nowadays nohow.
(But that ain't a divisive statement on your part. Oh, no. Mugwump Jay
Simpleson. would _never_ add fuel to the fire or make divisive
statements. Why, that's just plain beneath him and his 5000 posts on this
topic thus far.)
> So I have two elements to go by here, regarding Piss Christ, the spiritual
> and the artistic. If it had reached me on the spiritual level, I might have
> been willing to be more charitable on the artistic level. But Piss Christ is
> straining me on both levels.
???
I think you took that thought and had it backpacked over the next hill and back.
> Even if I had immediately "gotten" Piss Christ on an artistic level; even
> if I knew that that particular piece was both the spiritual and artistic
> culmination of Serrano's very life; even if Serrano himself had of asked me
> if he should exhibit it, I would have said no.
Your opinion, of course.
> I think the potential for misunderstandings are too big to make it
> worthwhile, spiritually speaking.
The potential for misunderstanding is also a potential for clarification.
Do you not _see_ the opportunity in provoking discussion, and from that,
provoking thought?
> Starting a religious war is not spiritual. Piss Christ may not have done
> that, but it was pushing the limits,
This is sequined squirrel shit.
> and I doubt very seriously if it
> enlightened anyone.
Doubt no more. I have been finding this discussion rather enlightening.
Grim at times, but enlightening nevertheless.
> So people like gekko, can accuse me of knee-jerk reactions if they like,
> but the truth is that I have mulled this over in my mind for years.
If this is true, then I've underestimated you. That would not be good.
> But I plead guilty to putting spiritual matters ahead of artistic matters
> when I made my judgement. In fact, that is my whole point.
Point? That's _it_?
> If anyone cares to notice, I have not called for Serrano's head. I am just
> saying that I don't think Serrano was working on a spiritual level when he
> prodiced Piss Christ.
And a glimmering of enlightenment is at long last perceived...!
> I think he was more absorbed with his own importance as
> an artist.
...and just as promptly rejected. A tentative and vaguely interesting
interpretation, but this was not--and never was--about Serrano himself.
> Jesus said: blessed are the peacemakers. I don't think Piss Christ was an
> attempt at peacemaking.
Jesus also tossed moneylenders from the temple. What's yer point? He
also said let he without sin chuck the first rock. What's yer point
_now_?
> I think Piss Christ was a clumsy attempt to express frustration. It was
> neither inovative nor unique. It was a petulant expression, in my opinion. All
> it says to me is that Serrano was frustrated and gave up.
No; frustrated, yes, but gave up? Hardly. You don't apply for a grant
from the NEA by "giving up."
> I think the Dali Lama would think Piss Christ had too much potential to
> divide people.
I think you should recant that comment lest you be accused of putting
words into other people's mouths.
> Buddha would never do such a thing. It is unspiritual.
Again, I doubt Buddha would appreciate having words put into his mouth
just to suit yourself or your flimsy arguments.
Why?
Again, (AGAIN!) it. Doesn't. Matter. What. God. Himself. Would.
Think. Even. If. He. Slapped. A. Big. Assed. Stone. Fucking.
Tablet. Into. Your. Vast. Doughy. Midsection. That. Said:
"Piss Christ? I don't really give a shit. Not my problem. Grow up
already, you assholes. Peace out."
Your vain attempt to appeal to authority carries as much weight as any
number of angels dancing on the head of a pin.
Peace out.
Svein Olav Nyberg
Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady
GMT during the misc.writing Community News Flash, Paul Heslop
<paul....@cableinet.co.uk> reported:
>Scott Elyard wrote:
>>
>> In article <Xns90A364296185Fpz...@207.126.101.97>,
>> pzisel...@iname.com (Hound of Cullen) wrote:
>>
>> > >what? One piss taking?
>> >
>> > Too easy. That sound is *tinkle*
>> >
>> > Hound
>>
>> Happy little bells?
>>
>> --
>Or Balls?
Yes. What is the sound of one ball dangling?
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Another story is of a western journalist who had come to a Zen Master:
The journalist had heard that the Zen masters spit on the Buddha, so he
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Master agreed in this way: "You spit, I bow."
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Paul Heslop
>
> (Please NOTE E-Mail address in my sig) On Wed, 16 May 2001 23:47:10
> GMT during the misc.writing Community News Flash, Paul Heslop
> <paul....@cableinet.co.uk> reported:
>
> >Scott Elyard wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <Xns90A364296185Fpz...@207.126.101.97>,
> >> pzisel...@iname.com (Hound of Cullen) wrote:
> >>
> >> > >what? One piss taking?
> >> >
> >> > Too easy. That sound is *tinkle*
> >> >
> >> > Hound
> >>
> >> Happy little bells?
> >>
> >> --
> >Or Balls?
>
> Yes. What is the sound of one ball dangling?
>
> --
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<snip>
> I guess what I have been trying to say from the beginning is that we
have
> two elements here, the spiritual and the artistic.
> My first impression of Piss Christ was that it was not spiritual,
*mainly*
> because it has so much potential to create divisions.
<g> the words of jesus, about himself:
(Luke 12:51 KJV) Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell
you, Nay; but rather division:
52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three
against two, and two against three.
53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the
father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the
mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in
law against her mother in law.
the existence of spirituality among people who don't believe there is such a
thing as spirituality _is_ a division.
<snip>
> So I have two elements to go by here, regarding Piss Christ, the
spiritual
> and the artistic. If it had reached me on the spiritual level, I might
have
> been willing to be more charitable on the artistic level. But Piss Christ
is
> straining me on both levels.
the art under discussion is, to me, a 3 dimensional form of graffiti. is
graffiti art? it _is_ a form of expression. what forms of expression can be
considered art? what is art?
art is a word given to forms of expression dependent upon the general
consensus of the
age lived in.
in the late 1800's, a style of painting developed in france
that was considered by the establishment to be no art at all. many
considered it trash because they were used to the realistic, exquisitely
detailed paintings of the previous age. the paintings created by colors that
seemed simply splashed on the canvas weren't worthy to be put into the
same category as the masters of the renaissance. it took awhile for people
to accept the work of renoir, manet, monet, degas, morisot, et al. we now
know their work as a revolutionary movement in art history-impressionism;
thus giving artists such as van gogh, seurat, and gauguin a jumping off
point for their own work.
do i like serrano's piece? no. do i like van gogh's work? no.
but i love renoir's work. i love monet's work.
a matter of my opinion.
is there a general consensus regarding serrano's work? it had the backing of
today's establishment. it is art.
that doesn't mean we have to consider it good. and we, as the impressionists
did, can disagree with what the establishment determines to be art.
>
> Even if I had immediately "gotten" Piss Christ on an artistic level;
even
> if I knew that that particular piece was both the spiritual and artistic
> culmination of Serrano's very life; even if Serrano himself had of asked
me
> if he should exhibit it, I would have said no.
>
> I think the potential for misunderstandings are too big to make it
> worthwhile, spiritually speaking.
when it comes to spirituality, the misunderstandings are often big, even
about the smallest of matters. should people allow that to stop them from
expressing themselves? okay, so those who love christ might be offended.
they may even see it as a sign of the degradation of today's society. <g>
how many people in generations past said the same thing about their own
versions of "piss christ" during their lifetimes?
it isn't the artform that causes a war, but rather what is in the hearts of
the people. the artform serves to illuminate what is in those hearts when
people react to it.
>
> Starting a religious war is not spiritual. Piss Christ may not have
done
> that, but it was pushing the limits, and I doubt very seriously if it
> enlightened anyone.
>
>
> So people like gekko, can accuse me of knee-jerk reactions if they
like,
> but the truth is that I have mulled this over in my mind for years.
>
> But I plead guilty to putting spiritual matters ahead of artistic
matters
> when I made my judgement. In fact, that is my whole point.
>
> If anyone cares to notice, I have not called for Serrano's head. I am
just
> saying that I don't think Serrano was working on a spiritual level when he
> prodiced Piss Christ. I think he was more absorbed with his own importance
as
> an artist.
must one be spiritual to make a commentary on the hypocrisies one sees among
the so-called spiritual? i think his piece served to make the statement that
he was fed up with what he saw within the christian church or religion.
piss on you all! certainly nothing very spiritual about that, but very, very
human. although, really, if you consider that we are spiritual beings living
out a human existence, then everything that we do has a spiritual element to
it. one tends to think that being spiritual means to be good, holy, as
perfect as possible. i don't think that's what it means to be spiritual at
all. to be spiritual simply means to recognize and believe in our spiritual
nature.
>
> Jesus said: blessed are the peacemakers. I don't think Piss Christ was
an
> attempt at peacemaking.
Once again, Jesus' words:
Matt:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like
unto
whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within
full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are
full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the
tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have
been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of
them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of
hell?
oh, yeah. very peacable. very "spiritual."
sure, his tenets were ones of peace. his desire was that all mankind know
their relationship to god and love one another. but it didn't stop him from
saying things to try to wake the sons of satan up, did it? and who is he
speaking to? the religious leaders mostly. the "church" of that day and that
culture.
>
> I think Piss Christ was a clumsy attempt to express frustration. It was
> neither inovative nor unique. It was a petulant expression, in my opinion.
All
> it says to me is that Serrano was frustrated and gave up.
>
>
> I think the Dali Lama would think Piss Christ had too much potential to
> divide people.
i think the dali lama would recognize it takes all kinds.
> Buddha would never do such a thing. It is unspiritual.
>
we each have our own forms of expression. serrano isn't buddha. he isn't
christ. he did, however, have a comment to make.
he made it. and it has continued to generate discussions such as this one
ever since. i'd say it served its purpose admirably, whether one likes it or
not, and the fact that no wars were caused by it, beyond word wars, may have
something good to say about the hearts of the people that allowed him to
express himself so freely.
aj
--
Faith is the power of creation.
Steve Pritchard
news:9e35s1$s8tl$1...@ID-39564.news.dfncis.de...
> but i love renoir's work. i love monet's work.
I quite liked Monet until I got contact lenses. Then I realised it worked
better when you couldn't really see it all that well.
Blanche Nonken
Hound of Cullen
56527.news.dfncis.de>:
Didn't he suffer from glaucoma? You might be seeing his work more like he
did if you see it without your contacts. :)
I'm not a big fan of the impressionists. I like van Gough & some Gaugin,
but I'm a much bigger fan of the post impressionsists.
Matisse for me. Oh, and Edward Hopper. I also dig John Singer Sargent's
portraits. And, after seeing a Pollack drip painting, I've become a fan.
Hound
The Apprentice
news:9e37jh$rg3c$1...@ID-56527.news.dfncis.de...
LOL! that's the whole point of standing back away from his paintings when
looking at them. get too close and all you see is a hodgepodge of color. but
that's what i find remarkable. most paintings should be looked at from a bit
of a distance, but even when standing close the pictures are recognizable.
but his work, i believe, epitomizes what the impressionists were striving
for as they played with color and light. instead of painting the subject
realistically, give the impression of it through the use of color against
color. there is no denying he achieved what he set out to do. granted, not
all of his paintings are necessarily good. he was conducting a study,
experimenting, not attempting to generate "works of art" every time he set
brush to canvas. but some of his paintings? aaahhhh. lovely. in my opinion
anyway. <g>
my favorite impressionist painter, however, is renoir, both for the
abundance of color and the subject matter of his work.
Mugwump
Hugh Watkins wrote:
>
> >>> Alan Watts claims that much of what Buddhist sages mean when they say
> nothing is real or that everything is maya (illusion) is that our words
> and thoughts about reality are not real in the sense that they are not the
> reality they talk and think about.
Yes, I believe he said,"The map is not the territory."
Svein Olav Nyberg
Svein Olav Nyberg
> > >>> Alan Watts claims that much of what Buddhist sages mean when they say
>
> Yes, I believe he said,"The map is not the territory."
I thought Korzybski and the General Semanticists had copyrighted that
one.
Svein Olav
Alma Hromic Deckert
ok, let me be the first to say this,
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!
A.
Mugwump
Look, if you don't understand what I am trying to say by now, give it up. You
ain't never gonna get it.
Scott Elyard wrote:
Blanche Nonken
Mugwump
Svein Olav Nyberg wrote:
That could be. I know Alan Watts used that phrase too, but I had read a book
by Allan Watts before I discovered General Semantics; so I wouldn't have known
if he didn't originate the term.
>
>
> Svein Olav
Alan Hope
>Alan Hope wrote:
>> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
>> programme, like this one from Svein Olav Nyberg, calling from
>> misc.writing:
>> >Blanche Nonken <mombl...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> >> > > What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
>> >> > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>> >> What?
>> >There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>> What, now what?
>Ah, but is 'what?' not the eternal question, Grasshopper?
I prefer "When?" As in "Say when."
--
AH
Scott OQ Elyard
> Look, if you don't understand what I am trying to say by now, give it up. You
> ain't never gonna get it.
In other words, "If you can't glean what I mean from what I'm trying
to say, give up: I'll never be able to articulate it."
So what don't I get, Muggy Jay?
Paul Heslop
I often consider a photograph of a painting shows what we like to see,
whereas, obviously, standing in front of twenty foot canvases covered in
thick layers of oil would look pretty weird. My sister in law went to
look at one of Leonardo's cartoons in London and, after studying the
scruffy little drawing for about ten minutes announced
"I don't get it!"
Paul Heslop
>
> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
> programme, like this one from Paul Heslop, calling from misc.writing:
>
> >Alan Hope wrote:
>
> >> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
> >> programme, like this one from Svein Olav Nyberg, calling from
> >> misc.writing:
>
> >> >Blanche Nonken <mombl...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
>
> >> >> > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>
> >> >> What?
>
> >> >There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>
> >> What, now what?
>
> >Ah, but is 'what?' not the eternal question, Grasshopper?
>
> I prefer "When?" As in "Say when."
>
> --
> AH
When?
Paul Heslop
What?
The Apprentice
news:3B05AAC9...@cableinet.co.uk...
that's pretty much how i felt upon my first sight of the mona lisa. i
couldn't understand what all the fuss was about over it.
Paul Heslop
Mona who?
Svein Olav Nyberg
Svein Olav Nyberg
> > > Yes, I believe [Alan Watts] said,"The map is not the territory."
> >
> > I thought Korzybski and the General Semanticists had copyrighted that
> > one.
>
> That could be. I know Alan Watts used that phrase too, but I had read a
> book by Allan Watts before I discovered General Semantics; so I wouldn't
> have known if he didn't originate the term.
Korzybski wrote in the first half of the 1900s - mostly the 30ies, if I
remember it right. Alan Watts might have been born then, but maybe not,
so I think his age settles who has presedence.
Just don't write to us in e-prime, please. ;-)
Svein Olav
Svein Olav Nyberg
> > > Yes, I believe he said,"The map is not the territory."
> >
> > I thought Korzybski and the General Semanticists had copyrighted that
> > one.
> >
> > Svein Olav
>
> What?
Hey! You're not Blanche, so I won't given my usual reply to the "What?"
If you hang out with practitioners of General Semantics, you will hear
that phrase a lot, and if you use it yourself, the faces that light up
in the crowd are the GS practitioners. Their two favourite phrases are
the one above and "A is not A."
The statement of "copyright" was tongue in cheek.
Svein Olav
Paul Heslop
what what what?
Svein Olav Nyberg
> > > > > > > > > > > What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now
> > > > > > > > > >what?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now
> > > > > > > >what?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
> > > > >
> > > > > What?
> > > >
> > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
> > >
> > > What?
> >
> > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>
> what what what?
The Zen Master hits you on the head with his stick.
Blanche Nonken
Blanche Nonken
Blanche Nonken
Svein Olav Nyberg
Svein Olav Nyberg
> If you want me to stop, send me fish paste. I'm nearly out.
Sorry. Don't eat seafood. But if you turn the tables, I can be bribed
with chocolate.
Paul Heslop
How about chocolate fish cakes?
Mugwump
Scott OQ Elyard wrote:
You don't even get enough, to *suspect*, what it is that you are not getting.
Blanche Nonken
Are you in Sweden? If so, will you trade fish paste for chocolate?
Svein Olav Nyberg
> > > If you want me to stop, send me fish paste. I'm nearly out.
> >
> > Sorry. Don't eat seafood. But if you turn the tables, I can be bribed
> > with chocolate.
>
> Are you in Sweden? If so, will you trade fish paste for chocolate?
Norway. But I have lived in Scotland and Canada, civilized nations, so
there is no excuse for my behaviour.
What is fish paste, exactly? I don't think I have ever heard of it.
Paste of fish?
Svein Olav Nyberg
> > > If you want me to stop, send me fish paste. I'm nearly out.
> >
> > Sorry. Don't eat seafood. But if you turn the tables, I can be bribed
> > with chocolate.
>
> How about chocolate fish cakes?
Ouch! How did I ever put myself into this predicament?
Mike Stroud
Svein Olav Nyberg wrote:
It is the paste that is used to affix fish together by artists, such as in
the recent controversial work: 'Piss Fishes', which was certainly a better
work than 'Crap Carp' in my opinion.
Gerald Clough
Philestine. You probably also got nothing from 'Mucous Mollusca' or
'Lugie Cougar'.
--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Clo...@Texas.Net
"Nothing has any value unless you know you can give it up."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Blanche Nonken
Sold in tubes, like toothpaste. My faves are the salmon or the herring
paste. Squirt it onto crackers, buttered toast, on a hard boiled
egg...yum.
Svein Olav Nyberg
Maybe we have it at supermarkets here. I don't know. Where do you live,
and where did you buy it?
--
Svein Olav Nyberg
http://www.nonserviam.com
200 million Americans can't be wrong: It is "definately"
Paul Heslop
Well, first you bought a computer, then you....
Frank Raymond Michaels
It's what you use to glue a fish to something.
---
FRM
Paul Heslop
>
> Mike Stroud wrote:
> >
> > Svein Olav Nyberg wrote:
> >
> > > Blanche Nonken <mombl...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > If you want me to stop, send me fish paste. I'm nearly out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry. Don't eat seafood. But if you turn the tables, I can be bribed
> > > > > with chocolate.
> > > >
> > > > Are you in Sweden? If so, will you trade fish paste for chocolate?
> > >
> > > Norway. But I have lived in Scotland and Canada, civilized nations, so
> > > there is no excuse for my behaviour.
> > >
> > > What is fish paste, exactly? I don't think I have ever heard of it.
> > > Paste of fish?
> >
> > It is the paste that is used to affix fish together by artists, such as in
> > the recent controversial work: 'Piss Fishes', which was certainly a better
> > work than 'Crap Carp' in my opinion.
>
> Philestine. You probably also got nothing from 'Mucous Mollusca' or
> 'Lugie Cougar'.
> --
With Halibut'
Mike Stroud
> > > What is fish paste, exactly? I don't think I have ever heard of it.
> > > Paste of fish?
> >
> > It is the paste that is used to affix fish together by artists, such as in
> > the recent controversial work: 'Piss Fishes', which was certainly a better
> > work than 'Crap Carp' in my opinion.
>
> Philestine. You probably also got nothing from 'Mucous Mollusca' or
> 'Lugie Cougar'.
> --
>
No, but I did like 'Tear Deer'.
Paul Heslop
The side of a greyhound bus? That bit sticking out or the Statue of
Liberty's elbow?
Has this paste been tested and will it stand the rigours of time? If I
stick a Cod to the back of a 74 Corvette will it still be there in a
years time? Enquiring minds need to know.
Scott OQ Elyard
Dada?
Alan Hope
programme, like this one from Paul Heslop, calling from misc.writing:
>Alan Hope wrote:
>> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
>> programme, like this one from Paul Heslop, calling from misc.writing:
>> >Alan Hope wrote:
>> >> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
>> >> programme, like this one from Svein Olav Nyberg, calling from
>> >> misc.writing:
>> >> >Blanche Nonken <mombl...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > > What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
>> >> >> > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>> >> >> What?
>> >> >There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>> >> What, now what?
>> >Ah, but is 'what?' not the eternal question, Grasshopper?
>> I prefer "When?" As in "Say when."
>When?
When's good for you?
--
AH
Frank Raymond Michaels
Tut-tut, Mr. Stroud. "Tear Deer" was highly derivative of
"Froth Sloth", which in turn was a direct rip-off of the
highly touted "Root-Beer-Float Stoat."
None of these, however, match the scope and breadth of
"Saliva Diva" which featured a live opera singer immersed in
120 gallons of the artist's spit.
---
Frank Raymond Michaels ("Don't you watch Sister Wendy...?")
Paul Heslop
Mama?
Paul Heslop
>
> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
> programme, like this one from Paul Heslop, calling from misc.writing:
>
> >Alan Hope wrote:
>
> >> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
> >> programme, like this one from Paul Heslop, calling from misc.writing:
>
> >> >Alan Hope wrote:
>
> >> >> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
> >> >> programme, like this one from Svein Olav Nyberg, calling from
> >> >> misc.writing:
>
> >> >> >Blanche Nonken <mombl...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > > What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
>
> >> >> >> > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>
> >> >> >> What?
>
> >> >> >There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>
> >> >> What, now what?
>
> >> >Ah, but is 'what?' not the eternal question, Grasshopper?
>
> >> I prefer "When?" As in "Say when."
>
> >When?
>
> When's good for you?
>
> --
> AH
But is it as good as stout?
Blanche Nonken
> Blanche Nonken <mombl...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > If you want me to stop, send me fish paste. I'm nearly out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry. Don't eat seafood. But if you turn the tables, I can be bribed
> > > > > with chocolate.
> > > >
> > > > Are you in Sweden? If so, will you trade fish paste for chocolate?
> > >
> > > Norway. But I have lived in Scotland and Canada, civilized nations, so
> > > there is no excuse for my behaviour.
> > >
> > > What is fish paste, exactly? I don't think I have ever heard of it.
> > > Paste of fish?
> >
> > Sold in tubes, like toothpaste. My faves are the salmon or the herring
> > paste. Squirt it onto crackers, buttered toast, on a hard boiled
> > egg...yum.
>
> Maybe we have it at supermarkets here. I don't know. Where do you live,
> and where did you buy it?
I live in Southeastern PA. I sent a guy in Sweden some beef and buffalo
jerky, and he sent me a half dozen tubes of fish paste and some Maribou
chocolate.
Gerald Clough
Except perhaps 'ToeCheese Pekinese'
Blanche Nonken
> Tut-tut, Mr. Stroud. "Tear Deer" was highly derivative of
> "Froth Sloth", which in turn was a direct rip-off of the
> highly touted "Root-Beer-Float Stoat."
I don't go to malls for mine. I go to the neighborhood pub, where
Guinness Stoat is always on tap.
Hugh Watkins
>
>What is fish paste, exactly? I don't think I have ever heard of it.
>Paste of fish?
http://www.google.com/search?q=fish+paste&btnG=Google+Search
english afternoon tea alternative to cucumber sandwiches
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=english+anchovy+fish+paste&spell=1
>> Peck's Anchovette Paste is a savory Anchovy Fish Paste spread for
Bread, Toast or Crackers.
If you love anchovies on your Pizza you must try this alternative. Just a
"shmear" is all that is necessary to enjoy this flavorful fish spread.
<<
a puree technically sen
>> Title: Fish Paste
Yield: 1
Ingredients
2 lb any white fish *
2 tb dry sherry
2 tb light soy sauce
2 green onions; chopped
1 pieces fresh ginger; grated
1 tb sesame oil
1 egg
1 salt and pepper to taste
Instructions
Carefully remove all bones from the whitefish.
Place the fish pieces in a food processor, grind to a smooth paste.
Scrape the paste into a bowl and add the other ingredients.
Mix them in carefully to complete.
Makes 1-3/4 lbs.
* If you put in a piece of salmon it will add great flavour!
Converted by MC_Buster.
NOTES : The paste below is not a Scottish dish; it's Chinese.
It's
included because Scotch Toast calls for it and most of the
commercial fish or 'bloater' pastes available are mediocre.
Scottish cooking has a long tradition of borrowing from other
cultures and this recipe is being borrowed from China because it's
easily made, versatile, has no fishy flavour and most importantly,
is delicious!
Converted by MM_Buster v2.0l.
<<<
leave out soya sauce and add anchovies
Hugh W
Mike Stroud
Gerald Clough wrote:
> Frank Raymond Michaels wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 19 May 2001 15:56:44 -0700, Mike Stroud
> > <rar...@eudoramail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > >> > > What is fish paste, exactly? I don't think I have ever heard of it.
> > >> > > Paste of fish?
> > >> >
> > >> > It is the paste that is used to affix fish together by artists, such as in
> > >> > the recent controversial work: 'Piss Fishes', which was certainly a better
> > >> > work than 'Crap Carp' in my opinion.
> > >>
> > >> Philestine. You probably also got nothing from 'Mucous Mollusca' or
> > >> 'Lugie Cougar'.
> > >> --
> > >
> > >No, but I did like 'Tear Deer'.
> >
> > Tut-tut, Mr. Stroud. "Tear Deer" was highly derivative of
> > "Froth Sloth", which in turn was a direct rip-off of the
> > highly touted "Root-Beer-Float Stoat."
> >
> > None of these, however, match the scope and breadth of
> > "Saliva Diva" which featured a live opera singer immersed in
> > 120 gallons of the artist's spit.
>
> Except perhaps 'ToeCheese Pekinese'
> --
>
I recall crying after viewing 'Puss Hippopotamus'
gekko
<3B071BD6...@eudoramail.com> to misc.writing makes Mike Stroud
<rar...@eudoramail.com> happy ...
what does all this have to do with buddha?
--
gekko
In science one tries to tell people, in such a way as to be understood
by everyone, something that no one ever knew before. But in poetry,
it's the exact opposite. - Paul Dirac (1902-1984)
Mike Stroud
gekko wrote:
I suppose that as long as we take this world of transiency as something
worth clinging to we are sure to lead a life of frustration.
Wendy Chatley Green
wrote:
:Sunshine on my shoulders makes me happy. Posting
:<3B071BD6...@eudoramail.com> to misc.writing makes Mike Stroud
:<rar...@eudoramail.com> happy ...
:
:>
:>
:> Gerald Clough wrote:
:>
:>> Frank Raymond Michaels wrote:
:>> >
:>> > On Sat, 19 May 2001 15:56:44 -0700, Mike Stroud
:>> > <rar...@eudoramail.com> wrote:
:>> >
:>> > >>
:>> > >> > > What is fish paste, exactly? I don't think I have ever
:>> > >> > > heard of it. Paste of fish?
:>> > >> >
:>> > >> > It is the paste that is used to affix fish together by
:>> > >> > artists, such as in the recent controversial work: 'Piss
:>> > >> > Fishes', which was certainly a better work than 'Crap Carp'
:>> > >> > in my opinion.
:>> > >>
:>> > >> Philestine. You probably also got nothing from 'Mucous
:>> > >> Mollusca' or 'Lugie Cougar'. --
:>> > >
:>> > >No, but I did like 'Tear Deer'.
:>> >
:>> > Tut-tut, Mr. Stroud. "Tear Deer" was highly derivative of
:>> > "Froth Sloth", which in turn was a direct rip-off of the
:>> > highly touted "Root-Beer-Float Stoat."
:>> >
:>> > None of these, however, match the scope and breadth of
:>> > "Saliva Diva" which featured a live opera singer immersed in
:>> > 120 gallons of the artist's spit.
:>>
:>> Except perhaps 'ToeCheese Pekinese' --
:>>
:>
:> I recall crying after viewing 'Puss Hippopotamus'
:>
:>
:
:what does all this have to do with buddha?
What?
--
Wendy Chatley Green
wcg...@cris.com
Paul Heslop
Blanche Nonken
Blanche Nonken
> >> Peck's Anchovette Paste is a savory Anchovy Fish Paste spread for
> Bread, Toast or Crackers.
Someone sent me a jar once. Didn't like it, and it has a hideously
short shelf-life. Boklingpastej is *much* nicer.
Svein Olav Nyberg
> > > How about chocolate fish cakes?
> >
> > Ouch! How did I ever put myself into this predicament?
>
> Well, first you bought a computer, then you....
But it's a Macintosh. They aren't supposed to act up the way Windows
computers do.
Svein Olav Nyberg
> > > > > > > > > > > What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now
> > > > > > > > > > what?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now
> > > > > > > > what?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
> > > > >
> > > > > What?
> > > >
> > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
> > >
> > > What?
> >
> > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>
> Dada?
The Zen Master hits you on the head with his stick.
Svein Olav Nyberg
Svein Olav Nyberg
> >> > >> > > What is fish paste, exactly? I don't think I have ever
> >> > >> > > heard of it. Paste of fish?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > It is the paste that is used to affix fish together by
> >> > >> > artists, such as in the recent controversial work: 'Piss
> >> > >> > Fishes', which was certainly a better work than 'Crap Carp'
> >> > >> > in my opinion.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Philestine. You probably also got nothing from 'Mucous
> >> > >> Mollusca' or 'Lugie Cougar'. --
> >> > >
> >> > >No, but I did like 'Tear Deer'.
> >> >
> >> > Tut-tut, Mr. Stroud. "Tear Deer" was highly derivative of
> >> > "Froth Sloth", which in turn was a direct rip-off of the
> >> > highly touted "Root-Beer-Float Stoat."
> >> >
> >> > None of these, however, match the scope and breadth of
> >> > "Saliva Diva" which featured a live opera singer immersed in
> >> > 120 gallons of the artist's spit.
> >>
> >> Except perhaps 'ToeCheese Pekinese' --
> >
> > I recall crying after viewing 'Puss Hippopotamus'
>
> what does all this have to do with buddha?
If you see the buddha on the road, kill him (or run, or bow, or ...)
It is enlightenment that has come to end all attachment to the series of
threads collectively known as "Piss <Insert favourite deity or spiritual
person here>."
Blanche Nonken
> > I live in Southeastern PA. I sent a guy in Sweden some beef and buffalo
> > jerky, and he sent me a half dozen tubes of fish paste and some Maribou
> > chocolate.
>
> I sense possibilities here.
What's your pleasure? I'm fond of international food trades - unique
chocolate items are always a plus. I won't break any obvious laws.
>
> BTW: It's your turn.
Damn, almost forgot. Thanks.
Blanche Nonken
Svein Olav Nyberg
Frank Raymond Michaels
<paul....@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>Frank Raymond Michaels wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 19 May 2001 22:28:44 +0200, so...@nonserviam.com
>> (Svein Olav Nyberg) wrote:
>>
>> >Blanche Nonken <mombl...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > > If you want me to stop, send me fish paste. I'm nearly out.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry. Don't eat seafood. But if you turn the tables, I can be bribed
>> >> > with chocolate.
>> >>
>> >> Are you in Sweden? If so, will you trade fish paste for chocolate?
>> >
>> >Norway. But I have lived in Scotland and Canada, civilized nations, so
>> >there is no excuse for my behaviour.
>> >
>> >What is fish paste, exactly? I don't think I have ever heard of it.
>> >Paste of fish?
>>
>> It's what you use to glue a fish to something.
>> ---
>> FRM
>
>The side of a greyhound bus? That bit sticking out or the Statue of
>Liberty's elbow?
>Has this paste been tested and will it stand the rigours of time? If I
>stick a Cod to the back of a 74 Corvette will it still be there in a
>years time? Enquiring minds need to know.
Yes, of course, but be careful -- the warning on the jar
says it will bind to flesh.
It wouldn't do to have a live flounder accidentally glued to
your face whilst on a job interview, for example...
---
FRM
Scott OQ Elyard
> Scott OQ Elyard <stonebu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now
> > > > > > > > > > > what?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now
> > > > > > > > > what?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What?
> > > > >
> > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
> > > >
> > > > What?
> > >
> > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
> >
> > Dada?
>
> The Zen Master hits you on the head with his stick.
Dada?
Alan Hope
programme, like this one from Paul Heslop, calling from misc.writing:
>Alan Hope wrote:
>> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
>> programme, like this one from Paul Heslop, calling from misc.writing:
>> >Alan Hope wrote:
>> >> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
>> >> programme, like this one from Paul Heslop, calling from misc.writing:
>> >> >Alan Hope wrote:
>> >> >> Coming up next, your comments and questions on issues discussed in the
>> >> >> programme, like this one from Svein Olav Nyberg, calling from
>> >> >> misc.writing:
>> >> >> >Blanche Nonken <mombl...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
>> >> >> >> > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>> >> >> >> What?
>> >> >> >There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
>> >> >> What, now what?
>> >> >Ah, but is 'what?' not the eternal question, Grasshopper?
>> >> I prefer "When?" As in "Say when."
>> >When?
>> When's good for you?
>But is it as good as stout?
It's as good as can be expected in the circumstances.
--
AH
Alex Jay Berman
<mombl...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>If you want me to stop, send me fish paste. I'm nearly out.
Blanche, I have Chinese Fish Sauce.
Will that do it?
Alex Jay Berman
Svein Olav Nyberg
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the sound of one...no, I better not.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now
> > > > > > > > > > > > what?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now
> > > > > > > > > > what?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
> > > > >
> > > > > What?
> > > >
> > > > There are stories of Zen masters pissing on Buddhas. Now what?
> > >
> > > Dada?
> >
> > The Zen Master hits you on the head with his stick.
>
> Dada?
The pataphysicist hits you on the nose with a limp cucumber.
Blanche Nonken
Blanche Nonken
Nope.
Hugh Watkins
>
>But it's a Macintosh. They aren't supposed to act up the way Windows
>computers do.
soorrryyyy
it is just another Turing machine deep under the skin
Hugh W
Paul Heslop
>
> Paul Heslop <paul....@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > How about chocolate fish cakes?
> > >
> > > Ouch! How did I ever put myself into this predicament?
> >
> > Well, first you bought a computer, then you....
>
> But it's a Macintosh. They aren't supposed to act up the way Windows
> computers do.
>
> --
Paul Heslop
Oh, it could be an interesting starting point...
"So...erm...how long have you had a flounder attached to your face?"