for you handy folks
serenebabe
question I need answered sooner than that. I've tried Googling it, etc.
but am not confident I have a good answer.
Our landlord put washer/dryer hookups in our *kitchen* (we didn't want
it there, it's a small kitchen, but he wanted to install it).
I'm wondering if I can put a dishwasher there? There is a hot water tap
(and a cold) jutting out of the wall, meant for the washing machine.
There's an outlet (regular looking one and also one for the dryer).
There's a drain pipe. Seems likely I could put a dishwasher there?
Any ideas?
(Hoping to surprise Josh with a dishwasher. Not your typical man-gift,
but since he does dishes a million hours a day, he'll be psyched.)
--Heather
--
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$Zero
> My handyman Uncle is out of town for another week and I've got a
> question I need answered sooner than that. I've tried Googling it, etc.
> but am not confident I have a good answer.
>
> Our landlord put washer/dryer hookups in our *kitchen* (we didn't want
> it there, it's a small kitchen, but he wanted to install it).
>
> I'm wondering if I can put a dishwasher there? There is a hot water tap
> (and a cold) jutting out of the wall, meant for the washing machine.
> There's an outlet (regular looking one and also one for the dryer).
> There's a drain pipe. Seems likely I could put a dishwasher there?
of course you could.
> Any ideas?
call or visit Home Depot.
-$Zero...
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Bill Penrose
> I'm wondering if I can put a dishwasher there? There is a hot water tap
> (and a cold) jutting out of the wall, meant for the washing machine.
> There's an outlet (regular looking one and also one for the dryer).
> There's a drain pipe. Seems likely I could put a dishwasher there?
>
> Any ideas?
You don't need ideas. You've got it all there already, unless...
are you leaving the clothes washer in place, too? If so, you'll need a
Y-splitter double faucet to screw on the single hot water faucet, so
you'll have hot water for both machines. You don't need a plumber for
this; the y-faucets are available at most hardware stores. Buy some
Teflon sealing tape to put on the threads in case you have a bit of a
drip.
The outlet may not have enough oomph for both machines, so you'll have
to live with using one machine at a time, or having another circuit
installed.
DB
john.ku...@sympatico.ca
Mostly right.
The problem is that you need some sort of trap for the dishwasher
drain to catch nasty things that could clog the drain further down the
pipe, making it an expensive repair. Washing machines do not need
traps because nothing "big" flows out of the washing machine and it
has internal filters. Stuff that comes out of the dishwasher is gummy
and sticky as well as lumpy.
If you can try to drain using the trap under the sink witha standard
Dishwasher hook up kit. Jusr make sure its OK to drill through the
side of the cabinet around the sink.
Better still, look for a Maytag convertable or other portable
dishwasher on wheels. It hooks up on to your kitchen faucet and plugs
into the wall socket in the kitchen. Had one of those for years and it
worked fine.
$Zero
lint that comes out of washing machines can gather and solidify and
cause lotsa problems.
that's why people put panty hose on the drainage pipe (which usually
pours into a washtub).
-$Zero...
because the chair's design sucks.
they've virtually stolen my $100.
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$Zero
> that's why people put panty hose on the drainage pipe
when they're not otherwise wearing them, that is.
> (which usually pours into a washtub).
if you're lucky.
-$Zero...
shitty office chairs
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Just Me
> Any ideas?
>
> (Hoping to surprise Josh with a dishwasher. Not your typical man-gift,
> but since he does dishes a million hours a day, he'll be psyched.)
Well then, you've got it all whacked. Just push that washer/dryer
aside and install him over there with a dish-pan, bottle of Joy and a
dishrag.
Just call me, "Always happy to help."
You should not, as some advise "castrate all married men who do
dishes"--that would be redundant.
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Patrick
I don't see any reason why she couldn't run a drain hose to the washer
drain. Those are usually plumbed with a trap that is hidden in the wall.
A trap serves a dual purpose and the primary one is to trap some water
so that sewer gases do not come back through the drain opening. They are
usually an inch and quarter pipe so any food debris would make it
through just fine.
hth
--
Patrick
john.ku...@sympatico.ca
Why would you hide a trap in a wall? How would you ever get to the
cleanout if it is all plastered over?
serenebabe
> On Dec 12, 9:54 am, serenebabe <sereneb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm wondering if I can put a dishwasher there? There is a hot water tap
>> (and a cold) jutting out of the wall, meant for the washing machine.
>> There's an outlet (regular looking one and also one for the dryer).
>> There's a drain pipe. Seems likely I could put a dishwasher there?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> You don't need ideas.
Ha! Should have said, any information? Any answers? :-)
> You've got it all there already, unless...
>
> are you leaving the clothes washer in place, too? If so, you'll need a
> Y-splitter double faucet to screw on the single hot water faucet, so
> you'll have hot water for both machines. You don't need a plumber for
> this; the y-faucets are available at most hardware stores. Buy some
> Teflon sealing tape to put on the threads in case you have a bit of a
> drip.
>
> The outlet may not have enough oomph for both machines, so you'll have
> to live with using one machine at a time, or having another circuit
> installed.
No washer actually in there. It's just the most stupid location for it
and there's *no* space for both. A dishwasher, we could use the top as
counter space (part of my plan).
So, sounds like it's probably a go! Whoooooo hooooooooooooooo!
serenebabe
Huh. You all are excellent!
I'll check with the appliance salesperson, too, about the debris issue.
Didn't want to just ask them if this would work, feared they'd be all
over selling me something and wouldn't give good advice. (Plus, we're
in TX and the store is in Saco, ME.)
Thanks!
serenebabe
<john.ku...@sympatico.ca> said:
>> On Dec 12, 9:54 am, serenebabe <sereneb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm wondering if I can put a dishwasher there? There is a hot water tap
>>> (and a cold) jutting out of the wall, meant for the washing machine.
>>> There's an outlet (regular looking one and also one for the dryer).
>>> There's a drain pipe. Seems likely I could put a dishwasher there?
<...>
> Better still, look for a Maytag convertable or other portable
> dishwasher on wheels. It hooks up on to your kitchen faucet and plugs
> into the wall socket in the kitchen. Had one of those for years and it
> worked fine.
Apparently my handman Uncle has email access. He made the point that
most dishwashers are made to be built in, so they don't necessarily
have sides on them. I wonder if a portable that I hook up to the washer
faucet would work? It's not like a sink faucet, though. An adapter, I
wonder?
Thanks for all this!
$Zero
> and the store is in Saco, ME.)
Saco, Maine.
whoa.
that town has a special place in my life.
it was a source of several major unlikely coincidences.
one of which was that, out all of the cities and villages in the
Northeast (spanning dozens of states) , it was the very first town
that i was assigned to take pictures in for a portrait studio company.
yikes.
what memories.
-$Zero...
$100 has a time value. nothing more.
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john.ku...@sympatico.ca
> On 2008-12-12 12:04:28 -0600, "Koolchi...@smurfsareus.xxx"
You can just roll the portable to the sink There is an adapter that
comes with the machine that you swap out with whatever is on your
kitchen faucet.
Or look on line for:
Maytag Jetclean®II 24 In. Convertible / Portable Dishwasher
It just empties into the sink.
serenebabe
> On Dec 12, 3:12 pm, serenebabe <sereneb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> and the store is in Saco, ME.)
>
> Saco, Maine.
>
> whoa.
>
> that town has a special place in my life.
>
> it was a source of several major unlikely coincidences.
>
> one of which was that, out all of the cities and villages in the
> Northeast (spanning dozens of states) , it was the very first town
> that i was assigned to take pictures in for a portrait studio company.
>
> yikes.
>
> what memories.
Tell more! We live there and I'd love to think of it as an interesting
place. :-)
serenebabe
<john.ku...@sympatico.ca> said:
Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I wasn't clear. I know what they are -- we had one
in Houston. But I'd rather not have the rolling method if we can avoid
it.
--
$Zero
> On 2008-12-12 14:21:13 -0600, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> said:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 12, 3:12 pm, serenebabe <sereneb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> and the store is in Saco, ME.)
>
> > Saco, Maine.
>
> > whoa.
>
> > that town has a special place in my life.
>
> > it was a source of several major unlikely coincidences.
>
> > one of which was that, out all of the cities and villages in the
> > Northeast (spanning dozens of states) , it was the very first town
> > that i was assigned to take pictures in for a portrait studio company.
>
> > yikes.
>
> > what memories.
>
> Tell more! We live there and I'd love to think of it as an interesting
> place. :-)
the memories i referred to are related to that time in my life.
other than Saco being my first photographing site, I don't remember
much about the actual town.
except maybe that it's a little north east of Portland?
i'd have to look in one of my old notebooks at the time to recall
anything else.
early 1980's.
but Saco, Maine keeps coming up in my life.
i even ended up including it in a song i wrote.
a song about coincidences, i think.
whenever something unlikely occurred, my girlfriend and i always used
to look at each other and sing:
"Saco, Maine!"
in synch.
and then we'd break out into laughter.
-$Zero...
what goes thru the "minds" of the designers of products
like these is a total mystery to moi. but what's an even
bigger mystery is why i'm penniless and they're not.
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serenebabe
> On Dec 12, 5:20 pm, serenebabe <sereneb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2008-12-12 14:21:13 -0600, "$Zero" <zeroi...@gmail.com> said:
>>
>>> On Dec 12, 3:12 pm, serenebabe <sereneb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> and the store is in Saco, ME.)
>>
>>> Saco, Maine.
<...>
>>> yikes.
>>
>>> what memories.
>>
>> Tell more! We live there and I'd love to think of it as an interesting
>> place. :-)
>
> the memories i referred to are related to that time in my life.
<...>
> whenever something unlikely occurred, my girlfriend and i always used
> to look at each other and sing:
>
> "Saco, Maine!"
>
> in synch.
>
> and then we'd break out into laughter.
<...>
That's a great thing to imagine. Thanks! :-)
Bill Penrose
<john.kulczy...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Why would you hide a trap in a wall? How would you ever get to the
> cleanout if it is all plastered over?
I live in a 'modern' house, built by cutting every possible corner, in
1992. *Everything* is plastered into the wall. It's a textured finish
which is intended to save on hiring professional drywall installers.
It's nearly impossible to make a repair that blends in.
DB
Bill Penrose
> > Apparently my handman Uncle has email access. He made the point that
> most dishwashers are made to be built in, so they don't necessarily
> have sides on them. I wonder if a portable that I hook up to the washer
> faucet would work? It's not like a sink faucet, though. An adapter, I
> wonder?
We had one of those for years. They came with a little clip-on adapter
for connecting to the faucet. The drain comes out the bottom of the
adapter. IIRC, the waste comes out the bottom of the adapter into the
sink. It was very handy if your kitchen is cramped.
DB
Bill Penrose
> You should not, as some advise "castrate all married men who do
> dishes"--that would be redundant.
You need to read this:
http://www.marriageactually.com/2008/09/08/guys-5-sexual-techniques-to-make-her-wild-with-desire/
or
http://tinyurl.com/574hoq
DB
Ray Haddad
<danger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>*Everything* is plastered into the wall.
Use the Man Sized Kleenex next time.
--
Ray
Alan Hope
>On Dec 12, 9:54 am, serenebabe <sereneb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm wondering if I can put a dishwasher there? There is a hot water tap
>> (and a cold) jutting out of the wall, meant for the washing machine.
>> There's an outlet (regular looking one and also one for the dryer).
>> There's a drain pipe. Seems likely I could put a dishwasher there?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
>You don't need ideas. You've got it all there already, unless...
>
>are you leaving the clothes washer in place, too? If so, you'll need a
>Y-splitter double faucet to screw on the single hot water faucet, so
>you'll have hot water for both machines. You don't need a plumber for
>this; the y-faucets are available at most hardware stores. Buy some
>Teflon sealing tape to put on the threads in case you have a bit of a
>drip.
Just because he washes the dishes is no reason to be rude about the
man.
>The outlet may not have enough oomph for both machines, so you'll have
>to live with using one machine at a time, or having another circuit
>installed.
>
>DB
>
serenebabe
yes, yes, YES!
Just Me
> On Dec 12, 11:43 am, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You should not, as some advise "castrate all married men who do
> > dishes"--that would be redundant.
>
> orhttp://tinyurl.com/574hoq
I would "need" to read some silly damned thing like that were I
ardently in search of a transparently disingenuous justification for
running about the house in a frilly, flowered apron instead of being
right where I belong; outside at the wood pile, or slid up under the
car doing an oil change.
But! Different strokes for different metrosexual folks. I am moved
always to take heed to the call of instinct over and above the
confused and chaotic din of shrill squeaks and screams from the
postmodern machine of social agenda production.
It's what weak traitors to their own human male genome, "need," my
boy, not a full grown man, like Mac the Nice.
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http://mackiemesser.zoomshare.com
Bill Penrose
> It's what weak traitors to their own human male genome, "need," my
> boy, not a full grown man, like Mac the Nice.
I heard that one of your wives isn't pregnant at the moment, and
another has acquired a pair of shoes and plans to walk into town.
You'd better act quick. The neighbors are beginning to talk.
DB
Alan Hope
>On Dec 12, 9:08 pm, Bill Penrose <dangerousb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 12, 11:43 am, Just Me <jpd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > You should not, as some advise "castrate all married men who do
>> > dishes"--that would be redundant.
>> You need to read this:http://www.marriageactually.com/2008/09/08/guys-5-sexual-techniques-t...
>> orhttp://tinyurl.com/574hoq
>I would "need" to read some silly damned thing like that were I
>ardently in search of a transparently disingenuous justification for
>running about the house in a frilly, flowered apron instead of being
>right where I belong; outside at the wood pile, or slid up under the
>car doing an oil change.
Ooh, you're so macho, Wilfred.
>But! Different strokes for different metrosexual folks. I am moved
>always to take heed to the call of instinct over and above the
>confused and chaotic din of shrill squeaks and screams from the
>postmodern machine of social agenda production.
>It's what weak traitors to their own human male genome, "need," my
>boy, not a full grown man, like Mac the Nice.
Yeahright, Grandad. Button up your cardigan, it's getting cold.
Patrick
Space savings.
--
Patrick
Go Bulls!
serenebabe
> My handyman Uncle is out of town for another week and I've got a
> question I need answered sooner than that. I've tried Googling it, etc.
> but am not confident I have a good answer.
>
> Our landlord put washer/dryer hookups in our *kitchen* (we didn't want
> it there, it's a small kitchen, but he wanted to install it).
>
> I'm wondering if I can put a dishwasher there? There is a hot water tap
> (and a cold) jutting out of the wall, meant for the washing machine.
> There's an outlet (regular looking one and also one for the dryer).
> There's a drain pipe. Seems likely I could put a dishwasher there?
<...>
For those of you who contributed to this... I've talked with our local
appliance shop (a little more expensive than the Big Box, but it's
going local, they service the stuff, and are just all around
excellent!) and here's the answer.
Built-in dishwasher would work with hookups, but only has a face on it,
rest is insulation and machine. Not great for freestanding.
Portable will work, but only after taking apart the machine. They will
be fixing the machine so there will be a separate drain tube and water
hookup. On the portables, they have a single hose coming from inside
the machine that goes to the sink (seems split at sink end, sometimes).
It'll be $50 in parts/tubes and $45 in labor to fix it up for us. But,
worth it! It has a butcher block top, so it'll be real countertop (no
counterspace lost!).
Bill Penrose
> ... But,
> worth it! It has a butcher block top, so it'll be real countertop (no
> counterspace lost!).
We had one of those in the 70s, butcher block top and all. It was a
good choice.
DB