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Bob Pastorio

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May 28, 2003, 12:17:53 AM5/28/03

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Ode to Billy Joe by Bobbi Gentry

What did they throw off the Tallahatchi Bridge? And who were "they?"

Pastorio

gekko

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May 28, 2003, 12:17:01 AM5/28/03

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Hey! Bob Pastorio <past...@rica.net>! It's been a long time! How
ya been? Last time i saw you, you were posting in misc.writing and
wrote this:

> Ode to Billy Joe by Bobbi Gentry
>
> What did they throw off the Tallahatchi Bridge?

Rosebud

> And who were "they?"

His parents.

>
> Pastorio
>
>

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gekko

You odd-toed ungulate!... Macrocephalic baboon!... -- "Captain
Haddock" Herge, Tintin in Tibet, 1960

Donna deMedicis

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May 28, 2003, 7:38:29 AM5/28/03

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Bob Pastorio wrote:

And what is wrapped up like a douche in the corner of the sky, when
you're blinded by the light?

Donna

Susannah

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May 28, 2003, 10:06:12 AM5/28/03

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Donna deMedicis <adl...@mindspring.com> wrote:

The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby off the
bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends. Later Billy
Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this is what Bobbie
Gentry meant.

Springsteen sang "Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night".
Manfred Mann sang "revved up like a deuce" I think, in his far less
interesting cover.

--
Susannah

Bob Pastorio

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May 28, 2003, 1:28:40 PM5/28/03

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Susannah wrote:
>
> Donna deMedicis <adl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Bob Pastorio wrote:
> >
> >> Ode to Billy Joe by Bobbi Gentry
> >>
> >> What did they throw off the Tallahatchi Bridge? And who were "they?"
> >>
> >> Pastorio
> >
> > And what is wrapped up like a douche in the corner of the sky, when
> > you're blinded by the light?
> >
>

> The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby off the
> bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends. Later Billy
> Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this is what Bobbie
> Gentry meant.

So the narrator's family with whom she's sitting at at table having a
meal didn't know she was preggers and didn't notice the sudden loss of
weight?

Um...

Pastorio (I don't know, either. Hence, subject.)

Towse

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May 28, 2003, 2:01:47 PM5/28/03

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Bob Pastorio wrote:
>
> Susannah wrote:
> >
> > Donna deMedicis <adl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bob Pastorio wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ode to Billy Joe by Bobbi Gentry
> > >>
> > >> What did they throw off the Tallahatchi Bridge? And who were "they?"
> > >>
> > >> Pastorio
> > >
> > > And what is wrapped up like a douche in the corner of the sky, when
> > > you're blinded by the light?
> > >
> >
> > The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby off the
> > bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends. Later Billy
> > Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this is what Bobbie
> > Gentry meant.
>
> So the narrator's family with whom she's sitting at at table having a
> meal didn't know she was preggers and didn't notice the sudden loss of
> weight?
>
> Um...
>
> Pastorio (I don't know, either. Hence, subject.)

Isn't Billie Joe a girl?

Well, the only Billie Joe I ever knew was a girl.

Sal
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Sylvia

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May 28, 2003, 2:24:30 PM5/28/03

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Susannah wrote:

> Donna deMedicis wrote:
>>Bob Pastorio wrote:

>>>Ode to Billy Joe by Bobbi Gentry

>>>What did they throw off the Tallahatchi Bridge? And who were "they?"

>>And what is wrapped up like a douche in the corner of the sky, when

>>you're blinded by the light?

> The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby off the

> bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends. Later Billy
> Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this is what Bobbie
> Gentry meant.

I never understood why anyone believed this urban myth. There nothing in
the song to suggest it. From the girl's reaction to the news, I had
thought that they had had a secret romance, then felt they had to end
it, and that they threw a token of their love into the river in a
ceremonial gesture. I didn't think *what* they threw was as significant
as *where* they threw it.

Later I found out that the record company cut about three minutes off
the original song in order to make it suitable to be played on the AM
stations and to add mystery as to what really happened.

> Springsteen sang "Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the night".
> Manfred Mann sang "revved up like a deuce" I think, in his far less
> interesting cover.

When I was a child, I thought "Secret Agent Man" was "Secret Asian Man."
I had wondered how you could keep that a secret.

--
Sylvia

Sylvia

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May 28, 2003, 2:30:20 PM5/28/03

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Towse wrote:

<...>

>>>>Bob Pastorio wrote:

>>>>>Ode to Billy Joe by Bobbi Gentry
>>>>>
>>>>>What did they throw off the Tallahatchi Bridge? And who were "they?"

<...>

> Isn't Billie Joe a girl?

No.

"And Brother said he recollected when he and Tom and Billie Joe
Put a frog down my back at the Carroll County picture show
And wasn't I talkin' to him after church last Sunday night?"

--
Sylvia

Sylvia

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May 28, 2003, 2:47:42 PM5/28/03

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Bob Pastorio wrote:
> Susannah wrote:

<...>

>>>Bob Pastorio wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ode to Billy Joe by Bobbi Gentry
>>>>
>>>>What did they throw off the Tallahatchi Bridge? And who were "they?"

<...>

>>The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby off the
>>bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends. Later Billy
>>Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this is what Bobbie
>>Gentry meant.

> So the narrator's family with whom she's sitting at at table having a
> meal didn't know she was preggers and didn't notice the sudden loss of
> weight?
>
> Um...

<...>

I think it's interesting that the narrator is the only family member in
this country town to react with anything other than mild curiosity to
the news of the suicide of their young neighbor.
"I'll have another piece of apple pie, you know it don't seem right
I saw him at the sawmill yesterday on Choctaw Ridge"

And, only we know how the news affects her.

--
Sylvia

Towse

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May 28, 2003, 5:09:02 PM5/28/03

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I know, but why spoil the fun?

////////////////// SPOILER ///////////////////////

They threw the frog off the Tallahatchie Bridge alls a-purpose to
set a new frog jumping record.

Sylvia

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May 28, 2003, 6:17:10 PM5/28/03

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WTF?!

"Hold Tight" [1]

"Choo choo to Broadway, foo Cincinnati
Don't get icky with the one two three
Life is just so fine on the solid side of the line, rip

Hold tight, hold tight, a-hold tight, hold tight
Fododo-de-yacka saki, Want some sea food mama
Shrimps and rice they're very nice
Hold tight, hold tight, a-hold tight, hold tight
Fododo-de-yacka saki, Want some sea food mama
Shrimps and rice they're very nice

I like oysters, lobsters too, I like my tasty butter fish, fooo
When I come home late at night, I get my favorite dish, fish

Hold tight, hold tight, a-hold tight, hold tight
Fododo-de-yacka saki, Want some seafood mama
Shrimps and rice they're very niiiiiiiiiiiiice
Bad da do daa, da de do da do daa, ba da da da do daaaa
<...>
Fododo dya, Fododo dya Fododo-de-yacka saki
want some seafood Mama, Oh won't you give it to me
cause I'm as happy as can be, When the seafood comes to me
La-da-da La-da-da La-da-da
<...>
I like oysters, lobsters too, I like my tasty butter fish, Joe
When I come home late at night, drip drip dripin' on the window pane
Wash it
Hold tight do-dat-do-day
Hold tight she wants some seafood Mama
Shrimpers and rice they're very nice
<...> "

Okay, I love this song anyway.

==
Sylvia
[1] Words and music by Leonard Kent ,Jerry Brandow ,Willie Spotswood,
Edward Robinson and Leonard Ware , 1939
Popularized by The Andrews Sisters

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- UV

William Penrose

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May 28, 2003, 9:44:26 PM5/28/03

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That's what I thought it said.

"There's a bathroom on the right"

sounds more correct than
There's a bad moon on the rise.

Bill Penrose

Susannah

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May 28, 2003, 10:04:05 PM5/28/03

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Bob Pastorio <past...@rica.net> wrote:

> Susannah wrote:
>>
>> Donna deMedicis <adl...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Bob Pastorio wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ode to Billy Joe by Bobbi Gentry
>> >>
>> >> What did they throw off the Tallahatchi Bridge? And who were
>> >> "they?"
>> >>
>> >> Pastorio
>> >
>> > And what is wrapped up like a douche in the corner of the sky, when
>> > you're blinded by the light?
>> >
>>
>> The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby off
>> the bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends. Later
>> Billy Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this is what
>> Bobbie Gentry meant.
>
> So the narrator's family with whom she's sitting at at table having a
> meal didn't know she was preggers and didn't notice the sudden loss of
> weight?
>
> Um...
>
> Pastorio (I don't know, either. Hence, subject.)
>
>

Hey man, it happens all the time.

--
Susannah

Susannah

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May 28, 2003, 10:07:50 PM5/28/03

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Sylvia <Syl...@WarriorVirago.net> wrote:

> Susannah wrote:
>
>> The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby off
>> the bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends. Later
>> Billy Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this is what
>> Bobbie Gentry meant.
>
> I never understood why anyone believed this urban myth. There nothing
> in the song to suggest it. From the girl's reaction to the news, I had
> thought that they had had a secret romance, then felt they had to end
> it, and that they threw a token of their love into the river in a
> ceremonial gesture. I didn't think *what* they threw was as
> significant as *where* they threw it.
>

But the song doesn't suggest anything about why Billy Joe jumped. So
there had to be some tragic secret, right? There's nothing to indicate
any Montague-Capulet/Hatfield-McCoy sort of thing here. He hung out with
her brother, after all. He coulda just waited a year or two.

> Later I found out that the record company cut about three minutes off
> the original song in order to make it suitable to be played on the AM
> stations and to add mystery as to what really happened.

No foolin'? Now I gotta know what was cut.

>
>> Springsteen sang "Cut loose like a deuce another runner in the
>> night". Manfred Mann sang "revved up like a deuce" I think, in his
>> far less interesting cover.
>
> When I was a child, I thought "Secret Agent Man" was "Secret Asian
> Man." I had wondered how you could keep that a secret.
>
> --
> Sylvia
>
>

--
Susannah

Sylvia

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May 28, 2003, 10:49:08 PM5/28/03

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, Susannah wrote:

> Sylvia> wrote:
>
> > Susannah wrote:
> >
> >> The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby off
> >> the bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends. Later
> >> Billy Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this is what
> >> Bobbie Gentry meant.
> >
> > I never understood why anyone believed this urban myth. There nothing
> > in the song to suggest it. From the girl's reaction to the news, I had
> > thought that they had had a secret romance, then felt they had to end
> > it, and that they threw a token of their love into the river in a
> > ceremonial gesture. I didn't think *what* they threw was as
> > significant as *where* they threw it.

> But the song doesn't suggest anything about why Billy Joe jumped. So
> there had to be some tragic secret, right?

Well, yeah he was unhappy about something - he didn't do the Happy
Dance into the river. Could have been from losing her. If they
ceremonially ended their romance by pitching it off the bridge, then
Billy Joe'd be making a statement regarding his feelings about that by
pitching himself off the same bridge. And, later, the narrator would
toss flowers off the bridge.

> There's nothing to indicate any Montague-Capulet/Hatfield-McCoy
> sort of thing here.

Where did I say that? If that had been the case, her family would have
reacted differently, doncha think? There could have been many reasons
why they wouldn't want their feelings for each other to be known. The
point is, she had a very strong reaction to the news of Billy Joe's
death, and was still mourning him a year later. And, she not only
covered up her feelings, but her family chatted on about the death as
if it didn't mean much to anyone present. Which I still find pretty
weird, considering the kids grew up with the boy if nothing else.

> He hung out with her brother, after all. He coulda just waited a year or two.

Waited for what?

> > Later I found out that the record company cut about three minutes off
> > the original song in order to make it suitable to be played on the AM
> > stations and to add mystery as to what really happened.
>
> No foolin'? Now I gotta know what was cut.

<...>

Absolutely. I'm sure you could look it up. As far as I know, Bobby
Gentry never would say, but she wrote it. All of it.

==
Sylvia <== who prolly shoulda thrown Sylvia Sock off the Tallahatchie
Bridge.

Susannah

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May 28, 2003, 10:53:02 PM5/28/03

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Susannah <sc...@nowhere.org> wrote:

> Sylvia <Syl...@WarriorVirago.net> wrote:
>
>> Susannah wrote:
>>
>>> The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby off
>>> the bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends. Later
>>> Billy Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this is what
>>> Bobbie Gentry meant.
>>
>> I never understood why anyone believed this urban myth. There nothing
>> in the song to suggest it. From the girl's reaction to the news, I had
>> thought that they had had a secret romance, then felt they had to end
>> it, and that they threw a token of their love into the river in a
>> ceremonial gesture. I didn't think *what* they threw was as
>> significant as *where* they threw it.
>>
>
> But the song doesn't suggest anything about why Billy Joe jumped. So
> there had to be some tragic secret, right? There's nothing to indicate
> any Montague-Capulet/Hatfield-McCoy sort of thing here. He hung out with
> her brother, after all. He coulda just waited a year or two.
>
>> Later I found out that the record company cut about three minutes off
>> the original song in order to make it suitable to be played on the AM
>> stations and to add mystery as to what really happened.
>
> No foolin'? Now I gotta know what was cut.
>

Well it turns out somebody done went and made a movie out of this song.

http://www.countrystandardtime.com/movies2FEATURE.html

In this movie, which sounds delightful, Bobby Joe had a homoseckshual
encounter. Now you know.

--
Susannah

Sylvia

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May 28, 2003, 11:11:37 PM5/28/03

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Here's one I'm still trying to figure out:

>Thtan,
>Wear your thong.
>Wear it proud.
>Wear it long.
>We remember the day
>You wore that golden lamé.
>
>Wear
>Wear your thong.
>Though it'th thkimpy
>And only a G-thtring.
>Don't worry that it'th not wide enough
>To cover up your cute rear.
>Jutht wear
>Wear that thong.
>
>(EVERYBODY, *THING*!)
>
>La la la la la la la la la la la
>La la la la la la la
>. . .
>. . .
>
>--
>Donna (hath fled the building)

I mean, what the hell is that about?

==
Sylvia ( jpgs would help )

Sylvia

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May 28, 2003, 11:28:09 PM5/28/03

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Susannah wrote:

> Susannah <sc...@nowhere.org> wrote:
>
> > Sylvia <Syl...@WarriorVirago.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Susannah wrote:
> >>
> >>> The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby off
> >>> the bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends. Later
> >>> Billy Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this is what
> >>> Bobbie Gentry meant.
> >>
> >> I never understood why anyone believed this urban myth. There nothing
> >> in the song to suggest it. From the girl's reaction to the news, I had
> >> thought that they had had a secret romance, then felt they had to end
> >> it, and that they threw a token of their love into the river in a
> >> ceremonial gesture. I didn't think *what* they threw was as
> >> significant as *where* they threw it.

<...>

> Well it turns out somebody done went and made a movie out of this song.
>
> http://www.countrystandardtime.com/movies2FEATURE.html
>
> In this movie, which sounds delightful, Bobby Joe had a homoseckshual
> encounter. Now you know.

<sigh> Yes, I know about the movie. No, Bobby Gentry had nothing to do
with the plot.

--
Sylvia

Susannah

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May 28, 2003, 11:47:54 PM5/28/03

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Sylvia <Syl...@Sylviadom.net> wrote:

> , Susannah wrote:
>
>> Sylvia> wrote:
>>
>> > Susannah wrote:
>> >
>> >> The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby
>> >> off the bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends.
>> >> Later Billy Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this
>> >> is what Bobbie Gentry meant.
>> >
>> > I never understood why anyone believed this urban myth. There
>> > nothing in the song to suggest it. From the girl's reaction to the
>> > news, I had thought that they had had a secret romance, then felt
>> > they had to end it, and that they threw a token of their love into
>> > the river in a ceremonial gesture. I didn't think *what* they threw
>> > was as significant as *where* they threw it.
>
>> But the song doesn't suggest anything about why Billy Joe jumped. So
>> there had to be some tragic secret, right?
>
> Well, yeah he was unhappy about something - he didn't do the Happy
> Dance into the river. Could have been from losing her. If they
> ceremonially ended their romance by pitching it off the bridge, then
> Billy Joe'd be making a statement regarding his feelings about that by
> pitching himself off the same bridge. And, later, the narrator would
> toss flowers off the bridge.
>

The whole point of the song was to make us wonder what the thing was and
why it caused him to commit suicide. Some indeterminate love token just
doesn't wash.

>> There's nothing to indicate any Montague-Capulet/Hatfield-McCoy
>> sort of thing here.
>
> Where did I say that?

Huh? You didn't, I did.

> If that had been the case, her family would have
> reacted differently, doncha think?

Like I said. Nothing to indicate that.

> There could have been many reasons
> why they wouldn't want their feelings for each other to be known.

Such as? I can only think of a few. Her family wouldn't permit it, she
just didn't like him anymore, or there was some tragic secret that made
it impossible.

> The
> point is, she had a very strong reaction to the news of Billy Joe's
> death, and was still mourning him a year later. And, she not only
> covered up her feelings, but her family chatted on about the death as
> if it didn't mean much to anyone present. Which I still find pretty
> weird, considering the kids grew up with the boy if nothing else.
>

Yeah, huh? Pass the peas. It was a crossover country song after all.

>> He hung out with her brother, after all. He coulda just waited a year
>> or two.
>
> Waited for what?

For her to reach the age of consent? The frog thing indicates rather
young flirtation, don't you think.

Nope, it was a baby. My 11 year old friends wouldn't have steered a 10
year old wrong.

--
Susannah

Ultraviolet

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May 28, 2003, 11:50:34 PM5/28/03

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The line forms on the right, babe, now that Susannah <sc...@nowhere.org>'s
back in town:

<>

> The whole point of the song was to make us wonder what the thing was
> and why it caused him to commit suicide.

It wuz druuuugs, man. EOFS.

> Some indeterminate love token just doesn't wash.

Ew.

--
UV

Susannah

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May 28, 2003, 11:56:27 PM5/28/03

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Sylvia <Syl...@Sylviadom.net> wrote:

> Susannah wrote:
>
>> Well it turns out somebody done went and made a movie out of this
>> song.
>>
>> http://www.countrystandardtime.com/movies2FEATURE.html
>>
>> In this movie, which sounds delightful, Bobby Joe had a homoseckshual
>> encounter. Now you know.
>
> <sigh> Yes, I know about the movie. No, Bobby Gentry had nothing to
> do with the plot.
>
> --
> Sylvia
>

What the fuck's the <sigh> for, Sylvia? Need to indicate that you're being
patronizing? It's clear enough.

Of course the movie was some hollywood screenwriter's crack at solving the
song's mystery. No one could possibly read that "review" and conclude
otherwise.

Swell of you to try to enlighten me so politely though. <sigh>

--
Susannah

pandora

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May 29, 2003, 1:34:58 AM5/29/03

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In article <3ed5659...@news.anet.com>,

My MIL always insisted that the song _I'm in the Mood for Love_
was really _I'm in the Nude for Love_. Proof, she said, was in
the album cover (a nude covered in bath bubbles). Whatever.

pandora

>Bill Penrose

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Bob Pastorio

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May 29, 2003, 2:16:06 AM5/29/03

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The whole mingling of the horror of the mysterious suicide with the
mundane dinner table conversation is why I think this is one of the
great pieces of writing ever sung by a tall woman with flavorfully huge
boobs.

Pastorio

Bob Pastorio

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May 29, 2003, 2:21:12 AM5/29/03

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Do homoseckshual country boys have some detachable thing that could be
thrown off a bridge?

Just akin

Pastorio

Sylvia

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May 29, 2003, 2:17:07 AM5/29/03

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>, Susannah <sc...@nowhere.org> wrote:

> Sylvia wrote:
>
> > Susannah wrote:
> >
> >> Well it turns out somebody done went and made a movie out of this
> >> song.
> >>
> >> http://www.countrystandardtime.com/movies2FEATURE.html
> >>
> >> In this movie, which sounds delightful, Bobby Joe had a homoseckshual
> >> encounter. Now you know.
> >
> > <sigh> Yes, I know about the movie. No, Bobby Gentry had nothing to
> > do with the plot.

> What the fuck's the <sigh> for, Sylvia?

The movie.

> Need to indicate that you're being patronizing? It's clear enough.

<...>

Interesting reading.

--
Sylvia

Sylvia

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May 29, 2003, 3:19:30 AM5/29/03

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Susannah <sc...@nowhere.org> wrote:

> Sylvia wrote:
> > , Susannah wrote:
> >> Sylvia> wrote:
> >> > Susannah wrote:

> >> >> The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby
> >> >> off the bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends.
> >> >> Later Billy Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this
> >> >> is what Bobbie Gentry meant.
> >> >
> >> > I never understood why anyone believed this urban myth. There
> >> > nothing in the song to suggest it. From the girl's reaction to the
> >> > news, I had thought that they had had a secret romance, then felt
> >> > they had to end it, and that they threw a token of their love into
> >> > the river in a ceremonial gesture. I didn't think *what* they threw
> >> > was as significant as *where* they threw it.
> >
> >> But the song doesn't suggest anything about why Billy Joe jumped. So
> >> there had to be some tragic secret, right?
> >
> > Well, yeah he was unhappy about something - he didn't do the Happy
> > Dance into the river. Could have been from losing her. If they
> > ceremonially ended their romance by pitching it off the bridge, then
> > Billy Joe'd be making a statement regarding his feelings about that by
> > pitching himself off the same bridge. And, later, the narrator would
> > toss flowers off the bridge.
>
> The whole point of the song was to make us wonder what the thing was and
> why it caused him to commit suicide.

So, suddenly you *do* know what Bobbie Gentry meant? Huh. Cite, please.
Because I'm thinking that it's a hard to *know* what the point of the
song was when close to half of it had been cut by the record company.

> Some indeterminate love token just doesn't wash.

Of course not. I suggested that, in my take on the song, it was what
the gesture of throwing it off the bridge meant.

> >> There's nothing to indicate any Montague-Capulet/Hatfield-McCoy
> >> sort of thing here.
> >
> > Where did I say that?
>
> Huh? You didn't, I did.
>
> > If that had been the case, her family would have
> > reacted differently, doncha think?
>
> Like I said. Nothing to indicate that.

Why did you bring it up? It sounded as if you were arguing a point.

> > There could have been many reasons
> > why they wouldn't want their feelings for each other to be known.
>
> Such as? I can only think of a few. Her family wouldn't permit it, she
> just didn't like him anymore, or there was some tragic secret that made
> it impossible.

Funny, it occurred to me that coming up with plausible reasons could
have made a good writing exercise, however, it isn't important enough
to me to start listing them for you.

> > The
> > point is, she had a very strong reaction to the news of Billy Joe's
> > death, and was still mourning him a year later. And, she not only
> > covered up her feelings, but her family chatted on about the death as
> > if it didn't mean much to anyone present. Which I still find pretty
> > weird, considering the kids grew up with the boy if nothing else.

> Yeah, huh? Pass the peas. It was a crossover country song after all.

What do you mean by that?

> >> He hung out with her brother, after all. He coulda just waited a year
> >> or two.
> >
> > Waited for what?
>
> For her to reach the age of consent? The frog thing indicates rather
> young flirtation, don't you think.

No, I don't. Her brother was remembering a time when that happened, but
he didn't say it had just happened. It indicates that they knew each
other as children.

Their age may not have had any bearing on why they felt they had to
keep their true feelings a secret.

> Nope, it was a baby. My 11 year old friends wouldn't have steered a 10
> year old wrong.

Fine. I supported my theory on what may have been thrown off the
bridge. I had thought you might support your statement.

--
Sylvia

Sylvia

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Miz Ultraviolet wrote:

> Susannah wrote:
>
> <>
>
> > The whole point of the song was to make us wonder what the thing was
> > and why it caused him to commit suicide.

> It wuz druuuugs, man. EOFS.

I heard it was 'cause every morning someone kept taking the last
coconut donut. A man can only bear so much, doncha know?

> > Some indeterminate love token just doesn't wash.

> Ew.

Should have gotten the 100% cotton Love Token.

==
Sylvia (but they're hell to iron)

Stan (the Man)

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May 29, 2003, 9:03:59 AM5/29/03

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Susannah wrote:
> Sylvia <Syl...@Sylviadom.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Susannah wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Well it turns out somebody done went and made a movie out of this
>>>song.
>>>
>>>http://www.countrystandardtime.com/movies2FEATURE.html
>>>
>>>In this movie, which sounds delightful, Bobby Joe had a homoseckshual
>>>encounter. Now you know.
>>
>><sigh> Yes, I know about the movie. No, Bobby Gentry had nothing to
>>do with the plot.
>>
>>--
>>Sylvia
>>
>
>
> What the fuck's the <sigh> for, Sylvia? Need to indicate that you're being
> patronizing? It's clear enough.

"Pa-ra-noia strikes deep."

<...>

FWIW <~~~ note cleverly subtle reference

--
Stan
<http://www.tocquevillian.com>

Susannah

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May 29, 2003, 9:35:10 AM5/29/03

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Susannah:

>>
>> The whole point of the song was to make us wonder what the thing was
>> and why it caused him to commit suicide.

Sylvia:

> So, suddenly you *do* know what Bobbie Gentry meant? Huh. Cite,
> please. Because I'm thinking that it's a hard to *know* what the point
> of the song was when close to half of it had been cut by the record
> company.
>

Are you nuts? I haven't said I *know* what the mystery is, but the mystery
is what the song is about. The listener is supposed to *speculate*.

>
> Funny, it occurred to me that coming up with plausible reasons could
> have made a good writing exercise, however, it isn't important enough
> to me to start listing them for you.
>

Uh huh, well that's certainly a strong argument for your "theory". "Coulda
been anything..."

>> > The
>> > point is, she had a very strong reaction to the news of Billy Joe's
>> > death, and was still mourning him a year later. And, she not only
>> > covered up her feelings, but her family chatted on about the death
>> > as if it didn't mean much to anyone present. Which I still find
>> > pretty weird, considering the kids grew up with the boy if nothing
>> > else.
>
>> Yeah, huh? Pass the peas. It was a crossover country song after all.
>
> What do you mean by that?

I think country music songs are fairly well reknowned for lyrics
containing strange, even outrageous, emotional reactions.

>
>> >> He hung out with her brother, after all. He coulda just waited a
>> >> year or two.
>> >
>> > Waited for what?
>>
>> For her to reach the age of consent? The frog thing indicates rather
>> young flirtation, don't you think.
>
> No, I don't. Her brother was remembering a time when that happened,
> but he didn't say it had just happened. It indicates that they knew
> each other as children.
>

Sure, that's possible too, but no more plausible than that it happened a
year or two ago when she was twelve.

> Their age may not have had any bearing on why they felt they had to
> keep their true feelings a secret.
>
>> Nope, it was a baby. My 11 year old friends wouldn't have steered a
>> 10 year old wrong.
>
> Fine. I supported my theory on what may have been thrown off the
> bridge. I had thought you might support your statement.
>

My "statement" was that I had heard the baby legend as a child. It's the
predominant one as far as I know. The theory that you seem to feel so
invested in (summary: they broke up for some reason and threw something
off a bridge as a gesture and then later he jumped) seems lacking to me
because it's boring. Solutions to mysteries aren't supposed to be boring.

Possibly I just don't read your tone correctly, and my apologies if that's
so. Reads to me like you've got a big old bug up your ass about something,
which is odd considering the tone of most of your posts around here.

--
Susannah

Sylvia

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May 29, 2003, 10:08:26 AM5/29/03

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Mr. Pastorio wrote:

> Sylvia wrote:

<...>
> > I think it's interesting that the narrator is the only family member in
> > this country town to react with anything other than mild curiosity to
> > the news of the suicide of their young neighbor.
> > "I'll have another piece of apple pie, you know it don't seem right
> > I saw him at the sawmill yesterday on Choctaw Ridge"
> >
> > And, only we know how the news affects her.

> The whole mingling of the horror of the mysterious suicide with the
> mundane dinner table conversation is why I think this is one of the
> great pieces of writing ever sung by a tall woman

Bizzare, innit. Wouldn't have been as effective if we hadn't been given
a glimpse of how she really felt, or is she had jumped up from her
dinner and screamed, "You killed Kenny! You bastards!"

> with flavorfully huge boobs.

Lobster Flanesque, no doubt.

--
Sylvia

Sylvia

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Mr. Stan, the Man wrote:

> Susannah wrote:

> > Sylvia <> wrote:
> >>Susannah wrote:

> >>>Well it turns out somebody done went and made a movie out of this
> >>>song.
> >>>
> >>>http://www.countrystandardtime.com/movies2FEATURE.html
> >>>
> >>>In this movie, which sounds delightful, Bobby Joe had a homoseckshual
> >>>encounter. Now you know.
> >>
> >><sigh> Yes, I know about the movie. No, Bobby Gentry had nothing to
> >>do with the plot.

> > What the fuck's the <sigh> for, Sylvia? Need to indicate that you're being

> > patronizing? It's clear enough.
>
> "Pa-ra-noia strikes deep."
>
> <...>
>
> FWIW <~~~ note cleverly subtle reference

<scribbling> Noted, and officially recorded, Mr. Stan, thenk yew.

Mr. Stan sez:

"For *Wool*, I Will!" <=== Note cleverly subtle reference

Donna deMedicis

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May 29, 2003, 6:17:33 PM5/29/03

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"Stan (the Man)" wrote:

Yeah, well, Bubba, explain to me the difference in using those dumb little
emoticons and using those stupid little acronyms.

Donna

Lorrill Buyens

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May 29, 2003, 6:44:50 PM5/29/03

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On Wed, 28 May 2003 00:17:53 -0400, Bob Pastorio <past...@rica.net> stubbed
their toe on a rock and hollered:

>Ode to Billy Joe by Bobbi Gentry
>
>What did they throw off the Tallahatchi Bridge? And who were "they?"

Polly Von by Peter, Paul & Mary

"She'd her apron wrapped about her and he took her for a swan"?
Was she a very small girl or did they have people-sized swans in
those parts?

--
"No collection of individuals is less vindictive than
an audience at amateur theatricals."
- P. G. Wodehouse, _The Intrusion of Jimmy_

Wendy Chatley Green

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May 29, 2003, 7:25:57 PM5/29/03

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For some inexplicable reasons, "Stan (the Man)" <sk...@optonline.net>
wrote:

:"Pa-ra-noia strikes deep."

A song I can't hear without seeing a mental image of Dick
Smothers with a gun.

--
Wendy (even more obscure reference)
Chatley Green -- wcg...@cris.com

--
Wendy Chatley Green
wcg...@cris.com

Stan (the Man)

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May 29, 2003, 7:56:21 PM5/29/03

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No.

--
Stan
<http://www.tocquevillian.com>

Donna deMedicis

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May 29, 2003, 9:33:26 PM5/29/03

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"Stan (the Man)" wrote:

But Stanley . . . . remember? We use misc.writing as a place to practice our
craft. If one writes clearly, and with thought and care, one doesn't need to
say FWIW or FDSA JKL; or Every Good Boy Does Fine, or the like.

Donna (But Stanley . . . what's the difference between LOL and FWIW? Huh?
HUH?)

Sylvia

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May 29, 2003, 9:41:03 PM5/29/03

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Lorrill Buyens wrote:

<...>

> Polly Von by Peter, Paul & Mary
>
> "She'd her apron wrapped about her and he took her for a swan"?
> Was she a very small girl or did they have people-sized swans in
> those parts?

Depends on which parts they were in. The trumpeter swan is almost as
long as I am tall and has a wing span of about 7.5 feet. Swans, in
general, are big birds.

==
Sylvia <== Birds 'R Us

Sylvia

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May 29, 2003, 10:16:08 PM5/29/03

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Miz deMedicis wrote:

> "Stan (the Man)" wrote:
> > Donna deMedicis wrote:
> > > "Stan (the Man)" wrote:
> > >>Susannah wrote:
> > >>>Sylvia <Syl...@Sylviadom.net> wrote:
> > >>>>Susannah wrote:

> > >>>>>Well it turns out somebody done went and made a movie out of this
> > >>>>>song.

> > >>>>>In this movie, which sounds delightful, Bobby Joe had a homoseckshual
> > >>>>>encounter. Now you know.

> > >>>><sigh> Yes, I know about the movie. No, Bobby Gentry had nothing to
> > >>>>do with the plot.

> > >>>What the fuck's the <sigh> for, Sylvia? Need to indicate that you're

> > >>>being patronizing? It's clear enough.

> > >>"Pa-ra-noia strikes deep."
> > >><...>
> > >>FWIW <~~~ note cleverly subtle reference

> > > Yeah, well, Bubba, explain to me the difference in using those dumb little
> > > emoticons and using those stupid little acronyms.

> > No.

> But Stanley . . . . remember? We use misc.writing as a place to practice our
> craft. If one writes clearly, and with thought and care, one doesn't need to
> say FWIW or FDSA JKL; or Every Good Boy Does Fine, or the like.

M-I-C-K-E-Y...

> Donna (But Stanley . . . what's the difference between LOL and FWIW? Huh?
> HUH?)

Miz deMedicis, I believe this is where the *Law of Stan* comes into
play.

==
Sylvia (Heard all about it from NYC to PA)

(then I had to take a test)

(I got points off for not having a No. 2 pencil)

Stan (the Man)

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Donna deMedicis

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"Stan (the Man)" wrote:

Aren't you a gem? Aren't you special? Doing this just for me.

Why thank you, Melon Head!

> FWIW (and the like) is an abbreviation for
> specific words, used in order to save typing time. Emoticons are not
> used to save typing time, but, rather, to save the mental effort of
> finding a way to express oneself.

Gotcha. Let's recap, shall we? You take clichés and platitudes, you strip 'em of
most of their letters, and you're honing your craft. You go, boy!

And then you take obscure little phrases, known to .0000097% of the usenet
population, and you strip 'em of most of their letters, and you're looking ever so
cool, because you're using an acronym that only a select few (the lucky few! the
smart few!) know. And you're honing your craft that way, too.

Stan is a Big Old Melon Head. Hereinafter to be referred to as SIABOMH.

>
>
> Happy now, bellicose southerner? (this is where we get the term
> "Southern Bel," btw <~~~ another abbreviation)

Yeah, I'm beyond happy. I'm all aquiver. Because I've come up with a new
acronym! SIABOMH.

>
>
> --
> Stan
> <http://www.tocquevillian.com>

Donna

Sylvia

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May 30, 2003, 9:39:53 AM5/30/03

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Miz gekko wrote:

> Susannah <sc...@nowhere.org> wrote:
>
> > What the fuck's
>
> Would you have my love child?

Shopping around again? What did you do with the last one?

--
Sylvia

Stan (the Man)

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May 30, 2003, 11:30:47 AM5/30/03

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Donna deMedicis wrote:
>
> "Stan (the Man)" wrote:

<...>

>>>>>Yeah, well, Bubba, explain to me the difference in using those dumb little
>>>>>emoticons and using those stupid little acronyms.
>>>>>
>>>>>Donna
>>>>
>>>>No.
>>>
>>>
>>>But Stanley . . . . remember? We use misc.writing as a place to practice our
>>>craft. If one writes clearly, and with thought and care, one doesn't need to
>>>say FWIW or FDSA JKL; or Every Good Boy Does Fine, or the like.
>>>
>>>Donna (But Stanley . . . what's the difference between LOL and FWIW? Huh?
>>>HUH?)
>>
>>Ok, beyotch, just for you.
>
>
> Aren't you a gem? Aren't you special? Doing this just for me.

Yes. Yes, I am.

> Why thank you, Melon Head!

Crunt.

>>FWIW (and the like) is an abbreviation for
>>specific words, used in order to save typing time. Emoticons are not
>>used to save typing time, but, rather, to save the mental effort of
>>finding a way to express oneself.
>
>
> Gotcha. Let's recap, shall we? You take clichés and platitudes, you strip 'em of
> most of their letters, and you're honing your craft. You go, boy!

Correct.

> And then you take obscure little phrases, known to .0000097% of the usenet
> population, and you strip 'em of most of their letters, and you're looking ever so
> cool, because you're using an acronym that only a select few (the lucky few! the
> smart few!) know. And you're honing your craft that way, too.

Correct.

> Stan is a Big Old Melon Head. Hereinafter to be referred to as SIABOMH.

I like it. And, you can be BSBWABM.

>>Happy now, bellicose southerner? (this is where we get the term
>>"Southern Bel," btw <~~~ another abbreviation)
>
>
> Yeah, I'm beyond happy. I'm all aquiver. Because I've come up with a new
> acronym! SIABOMH.

Have it put on a t-shirt for me, 'k? Make sure the head opening is big
enough.

--
Stan
http://www.tocquevillian.com

gekko

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May 30, 2003, 1:54:28 PM5/30/03

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Return with us now to that remarkable Fri, 30 May 2003 15:30:47 GMT, a day like other days, except that upon that day, Stan (the Man) <sk...@optonline.net> wrote in <3ED7794F...@optonline.net>:
> Donna deMedicis wrote:
<...>

> > Stan is a Big Old Melon Head. Hereinafter to be referred to as SIABOMH.
>
> I like it. And, you can be BSBWABM.

Bellicose Southern Belle With A Big Milkshake?

Donna! If you have a big milkshake, you gotta share! It's in the
rules.

--
gekko

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May 30, 2003, 4:48:28 PM5/30/03

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Stan (the Man) <sk...@optonline.net> fingre fremførte følgende fornøyelige frase:

> gekko wrote:
> > Return with us now to that remarkable Fri, 30 May 2003 15:30:47 GMT, a day like other days, except that upon that day, Stan (the Man) <sk...@optonline.net> wrote in <3ED7794F...@optonline.net>:
> >
> >> Donna deMedicis wrote:
> >
> > <...>
> >
> >>>Stan is a Big Old Melon Head. Hereinafter to be referred to as SIABOMH.
> >>
> >>
> >> I like it. And, you can be BSBWABM.
> >
> >
> > Bellicose Southern Belle With A Big Milkshake?
>
> Oooh! Missed it by that <> much!

Ah. Bellicose Southern Butthead With A Big Mo-mo.

> > Donna! If you have a big milkshake, you gotta share! It's in the
> > rules.
>
> It's melon-flavored.

?? It's flavored like your hea .... oh.

--
gekko

IRS: We've got what it takes to take what you've got.

Hippolyte Lizard

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May 30, 2003, 4:46:32 PM5/30/03

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Donna deMedicis wrote:
>
> SIABOMH.

SIABOMH, SIABOMH, Ya-da-da Da-da-da Da-da-da Da
SIABOMH, SIABOMH, Ya-da-da Da-da-da Da-da-da Da

Oh, life could be a dream (SIABOMH)
If I could take you up in paradise up above (SIABOMH) ...

Crew Cuts, 1954

Thank for the song, D de M. Thanks a lot.

hl
(SIABOMH)

Stan (the Man)

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May 30, 2003, 6:00:51 PM5/30/03

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gekko wrote:
> Stan (the Man) <sk...@optonline.net> fingre fremførte følgende fornøyelige frase:
>
>> gekko wrote:
>>
>>>Return with us now to that remarkable Fri, 30 May 2003 15:30:47 GMT, a day like other days, except that upon that day, Stan (the Man) <sk...@optonline.net> wrote in <3ED7794F...@optonline.net>:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Donna deMedicis wrote:
>>>
>>><...>
>>>
>>>>>Stan is a Big Old Melon Head. Hereinafter to be referred to as SIABOMH.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I like it. And, you can be BSBWABM.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bellicose Southern Belle With A Big Milkshake?
>>
>>
>> Oooh! Missed it by that <> much!
>
>
> Ah. Bellicose Southern Butthead With A Big Mo-mo.

Hmmm...I might like that one better.

>>>Donna! If you have a big milkshake, you gotta share! It's in the
>>>rules.
>>
>>
>> It's melon-flavored.
>
>
> ?? It's flavored like your hea .... oh.

Bwah!

--
Stan
http://www.tocquevillian.com

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May 31, 2003, 6:32:29 PM5/31/03

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On Fri, 30 May 2003 18:56:32 -0400, Donna deMedicis <adl...@mindspring.com>

stubbed their toe on a rock and hollered:

>"Stan (the Man)" wrote:

"Bellicose Southern Belle/Bitch With A Big Mouth" would be my guess.

Lorrill Buyens

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On Fri, 30 May 2003 03:11:39 -0400, Bob Pastorio <past...@rica.net> stubbed

their toe on a rock and hollered:

>Throcken Sie Morton? wrote:

Don't be so chicken, Bob!

Stan (the Man)

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May 31, 2003, 6:47:04 PM5/31/03

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Lorrill Buyens wrote:
> On Fri, 30 May 2003 18:56:32 -0400, Donna deMedicis <adl...@mindspring.com>
> stubbed their toe on a rock and hollered:
>
>
>>"Stan (the Man)" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>gekko wrote:
>>>
>>>>Return with us now to that remarkable Fri, 30 May 2003 15:30:47 GMT, a day
>>>>like other days, except that upon that day, Stan (the Man) <sk...@optonline.net>
>>>>wrote in <3ED7794F...@optonline.net>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Donna deMedicis wrote:
>>>>
>
>>>>>>Stan is a Big Old Melon Head. Hereinafter to be referred to as SIABOMH.
>>>>>
>
>>>>>I like it. And, you can be BSBWABM.
>>>>
>
>>>>Bellicose Southern Belle With A Big Milkshake?
>>>
>>>Oooh! Missed it by that <> much!
>>>
>>>
>>>>Donna! If you have a big milkshake, you gotta share! It's in the
>>>>rules.
>>>
>>>It's melon-flavored.
>>
>>You little shit. Tell me what it means.
>
>
> "Bellicose Southern Belle/Bitch With A Big Mouth" would be my guess.

We now have a motion and a second. All in favor?

--
Stan
http://www.tocquevillian.com

Donna deMedicis

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May 31, 2003, 8:26:52 PM5/31/03

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"Stan (the Man)" wrote:

Just eat shit and die, you stupid little Yankee fart.

Acronyize that.

Donna (I'm not particularly good at this, am I?)

Sylvia

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Jun 1, 2003, 1:51:36 AM6/1/03

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Miz Buyens wrote:

> Bob Pastorio wrote:
> >Throcken Sie Morton? wrote:

<...>

> >> Students of classical mythology will also note the story of
> >> Leda, seduced Zeus (Olympus' Mr. Barnyard Fun) in the guise
> >> of a swan.
> >>
> >> I have no idea how this relates to anything.
> >
> >As cranky as it's been around here, were I you, I'd, um, duck.
>
> Don't be so chicken, Bob!

Lookit! He's wrenning away!

--
Sylvia

--
"Oh, that my brain would bleat like buttered peas."

- Inmate of the Bedlam asylum (per billo)

Bob Pastorio

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Sylvia wrote:
>
> Miz Buyens wrote:
>
> > Bob Pastorio wrote:
> > >Throcken Sie Morton? wrote:
>
> <...>
> > >> Students of classical mythology will also note the story of
> > >> Leda, seduced Zeus (Olympus' Mr. Barnyard Fun) in the guise
> > >> of a swan.
> > >>
> > >> I have no idea how this relates to anything.
> > >
> > >As cranky as it's been around here, were I you, I'd, um, duck.
> >
> > Don't be so chicken, Bob!
>
> Lookit! He's wrenning away!

From the goose...?

Pastorio

Throcken Sie Morton?

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"Bob Pastorio" <past...@rica.net> wrote in message
news:3ED9C96C...@rica.net...

I'm heron no egrets.

(thought I'd pigdeon in here.)

-t

Dick Harper

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Somebody eloquently commented in misc.writing

> > >>>>What did they throw off the Tallahatchi Bridge? And who were "they?"
> >
> > >>The song's narrator and Billy Joe threw their illegitimate baby off the
> > >>bridge according to my more sophisticated older friends. Later Billy
> > >>Joe, wracked with guilt, jumped. I've no idea if this is what Bobbie
> > >>Gentry meant.

FWIW, I've always thought they were throwing an engagement
ring, but I suppose it could have been a used condom.

--Dick

----------------
A last-minute revision in the new U.S. tax bill dropped
the increased child credit that was in both the House and
Senate versions for millions of low-income families.
And people wonder why I advocate a simple and fair flat tax.

Alan Hope

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Jun 2, 2003, 12:56:49 PM6/2/03

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Hippolyte Lizard goes:

>Donna deMedicis wrote:

>> SIABOMH.

>SIABOMH, SIABOMH, Ya-da-da Da-da-da Da-da-da Da
>SIABOMH, SIABOMH, Ya-da-da Da-da-da Da-da-da Da

Sorry. Siabomh, with an accent thingy on the 'a', would be "Shibov".
In Gaelic. 'mh' makes 'v'. So actress Neve Campbell was once "Niamh",
and of course Sian Cusack is "Shann".

I don't make the rules.

--
AH

Alan Hope

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Throcken Sie Morton? goes:

>"Sylvia" <Syl...@Sylviadom.net> wrote in message
>news:290520032039246897%Syl...@Sylviadom.net...
>> Lorrill Buyens wrote:

>> <...>
>> > Polly Von by Peter, Paul & Mary

>> > "She'd her apron wrapped about her and he took her for a swan"?
>> > Was she a very small girl or did they have people-sized swans in
>> > those parts?

>> Depends on which parts they were in. The trumpeter swan is almost
>as
>> long as I am tall and has a wing span of about 7.5 feet. Swans, in
>> general, are big birds.

>Students of classical mythology will also note the story of

>Leda, seduced Zeus (Olympus' Mr. Barnyard Fun) in the guise
>of a swan.

>I have no idea how this relates to anything.

Seduced *by* Zeus, surely.

--
AH

Sylvia

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Jun 2, 2003, 1:12:44 PM6/2/03

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Miz deMedicis wrote:

<...>

> Just eat shit and die, you stupid little Yankee fart.
>
> Acronyize that.

<...>

JESADYSLYF

There ya go.

HTH HAND

==
Sylvia <ducking>

TINAC

Sylvia

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Mr. Hope wrote:

> Throcken Sie Morton? goes:

> >"Sylvia" wrote:
> >> Lorrill Buyens wrote:
>
> >> <...>
> >> > Polly Von by Peter, Paul & Mary
>
> >> > "She'd her apron wrapped about her and he took her for a swan"?
> >> > Was she a very small girl or did they have people-sized swans in
> >> > those parts?
>
> >> Depends on which parts they were in. The trumpeter swan is almost
> >as
> >> long as I am tall and has a wing span of about 7.5 feet. Swans, in
> >> general, are big birds.
>
> >Students of classical mythology will also note the story of
> >Leda, seduced Zeus (Olympus' Mr. Barnyard Fun) in the guise
> >of a swan.
>
> >I have no idea how this relates to anything.
>
> Seduced *by* Zeus, surely.

Leda was into proactive behavio(u)r.

--
Sylvia

Bob Pastorio

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Jun 2, 2003, 4:35:45 PM6/2/03

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By Jove, you're right.

Pastorio

Bob Pastorio

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Jun 2, 2003, 4:36:38 PM6/2/03

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Yes. It was Zeus. And don't call him...

Pastorio

Sylvia

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Jun 2, 2003, 10:43:37 PM6/2/03

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Sir Throcken Sie Morton? wrote:

> "Bob Pastorio" wrote:
> > Sylvia wrote:
> > > Miz Buyens wrote:
> > > > Bob Pastorio wrote:
> > > > >Throcken Sie Morton? wrote:

> > > <...>
> > > > >> Students of classical mythology will also note the story of
> > > > >> Leda, seduced Zeus (Olympus' Mr. Barnyard Fun) in the guise
> > > > >> of a swan.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have no idea how this relates to anything.
> > > > >
> > > > >As cranky as it's been around here, were I you, I'd, um, duck.
> > > >
> > > > Don't be so chicken, Bob!
> > >
> > > Lookit! He's wrenning away!
> >
> > From the goose...?
> >
> I'm heron no egrets.
>
> (thought I'd pigdeon in here.)

I find that hard to swallow.

Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady

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On Sat, 31 May 2003 20:26:52 -0400, Donna deMedicis
<adl...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>Just eat shit and die, you stupid little Yankee fart.
>
>Acronyize that.
>
>Donna (I'm not particularly good at this, am I?)
>

JESADYSLYF.

(If you had just put in the acronym you'd have had them guessing for
days! Especially on the last letter.)

--
Davida Chazan (The Chocolate Lady)
<davida @ jdc . org . il>
~*~*~*~*~*~
"Leave my Oreos alone!" -- Rick
~*~*~*~*~*~
Links to my published poetry - http://davidachazan.homestead.com/
~*~*~*~*~*~

Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady

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Jun 3, 2003, 5:08:10 AM6/3/03

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Hey! Three in one post? That's of fowl play!

Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady

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Jun 3, 2003, 5:11:00 AM6/3/03

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On Fri, 30 May 2003 13:39:53 GMT, Sylvia <Syl...@Sylviadom.net> wrote:

>Miz gekko wrote:
>
>> Susannah <sc...@nowhere.org> wrote:
>>
>> > What the fuck's
>>
>> Would you have my love child?
>
>Shopping around again? What did you do with the last one?

You mean that Canadian guy? Funny, I don't see him here anywhere
either. Yeah, what *did* you do with the last one, gek?

(Suspicious... very suspicious.)

Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady

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Jun 3, 2003, 7:03:59 AM6/3/03

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Huh?

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Jun 3, 2003, 11:19:05 AM6/3/03

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Twas brillig, and Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady <7zcm...@sneakemail.com> was slithy with the <b2bpdvgsujj6ns1c4...@4ax.com> when in misc.writing they said:
> On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 12:31:27 GMT, gekko
> <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Here are some of the interesting bits and selected pieces of what
> >Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady <7zcm...@sneakemail.com> wrote
> >misc.writing saying:
> >
> >
> >> Yeah, what *did* you do with the last one, gek?
> >
> >DADT is my philosophy.
>
> I'm joining up with Ms. deMedicis.
>
> (Explain, please!)

RtUtE

--
gekko (and a skiddlybootboot de doot)

Bob Pastorio

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Jun 3, 2003, 1:55:32 PM6/3/03

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Sylvia wrote:
>
> Sir Throcken Sie Morton? wrote:
>
> > "Bob Pastorio" wrote:
> > > Sylvia wrote:
> > > > Miz Buyens wrote:
> > > > > Bob Pastorio wrote:
> > > > > >Throcken Sie Morton? wrote:
>
> > > > <...>
> > > > > >> Students of classical mythology will also note the story of
> > > > > >> Leda, seduced Zeus (Olympus' Mr. Barnyard Fun) in the guise
> > > > > >> of a swan.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I have no idea how this relates to anything.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >As cranky as it's been around here, were I you, I'd, um, duck.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't be so chicken, Bob!
> > > >
> > > > Lookit! He's wrenning away!
> > >
> > > From the goose...?
> > >
> > I'm heron no egrets.
> >
> > (thought I'd pigdeon in here.)
>
> I find that hard to swallow.

Anybody want this one...?

Crowing like that breaks one of the cardinal rules of usenet.

Pastorio

Robert McClelland

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Jun 3, 2003, 2:05:35 PM6/3/03

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Bob Pastorio <past...@rica.net> wrote in message

news:3EDCE114...@rica.net...

Don't grouse, Bob.

Pandora

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Jun 3, 2003, 9:21:18 PM6/3/03

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"Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady" <7zcm...@sneakemail.com> wrote in
message news:p20pdvorhkrui0fmv...@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 18:56:49 +0200, Alan Hope <ah...@skynet.be> wrote:
>
> >Hippolyte Lizard goes:
> >
> >>Donna deMedicis wrote:
> >
> >>> SIABOMH.
> >
> >>SIABOMH, SIABOMH, Ya-da-da Da-da-da Da-da-da Da
> >>SIABOMH, SIABOMH, Ya-da-da Da-da-da Da-da-da Da
> >
> >Sorry. Siabomh, with an accent thingy on the 'a', would be "Shibov".
> >In Gaelic. 'mh' makes 'v'. So actress Neve Campbell was once "Niamh",
> >and of course Sian Cusack is "Shann".
> >
> >I don't make the rules.
>
> Huh?
>
> I thought it was the opening bars to "The Lion Sleeps Tonight".

I thought it was the opening to _Life is but a dream........

pandora

Sylvia

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Jun 3, 2003, 10:28:23 PM6/3/03

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Robert McClelland wrote:

> Bob Pastorio wrote :
> > Sylvia wrote:
> > > Sir Throcken Sie Morton? wrote:
> > > > "Bob Pastorio" wrote:
> > > > > Sylvia wrote:
> > > > > > Miz Buyens wrote:
> > > > > > > Bob Pastorio wrote:
> > > > > > > >Throcken Sie Morton? wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > <...>
> > > > > > > >> Students of classical mythology will also note the story of
> > > > > > > >> Leda, seduced Zeus (Olympus' Mr. Barnyard Fun) in the guise
> > > > > > > >> of a swan.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I have no idea how this relates to anything.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >As cranky as it's been around here, were I you, I'd, um, duck.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Don't be so chicken, Bob!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lookit! He's wrenning away!
> > > > >
> > > > > From the goose...?
> > > > >
> > > > I'm heron no egrets.
> > > >
> > > > (thought I'd pigdeon in here.)
> > >
> > > I find that hard to swallow.
> >
> > Anybody want this one...?
> >
> > Crowing like that breaks one of the cardinal rules of usenet.
>
>
> Don't grouse, Bob.

I quail at the thought of this thread going on forever.

Marcus Winberg

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Jun 3, 2003, 10:31:58 PM6/3/03

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"Sylvia" <Syl...@hats7.edu> skrev i meddelandet
news:030620032126485319%Syl...@hats7.edu...

Oh, why? It's just a lark.

Sylvia

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Jun 3, 2003, 11:34:18 PM6/3/03

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Marcus Winberg wrote:

> "Sylvia" wrote:
> > Robert McClelland wrote:
> > > Bob Pastorio wrote :
> > > > Sylvia wrote:
> > > > > Sir Throcken Sie Morton? wrote:
> > > > > > "Bob Pastorio" wrote:
> > > > > > > Sylvia wrote:
> > > > > > > > Miz Buyens wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Bob Pastorio wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >Throcken Sie Morton? wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > <...>
> > > > > > > > > >> Students of classical mythology will also

> > > > > > > > > >> of note the story Leda, seduced Zeus

> > > > > > > > > >> (Olympus' Mr. Barnyard Fun) in the guise
> > > > > > > > > >> of a swan.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> I have no idea how this relates to anything.

> > > > > > > > > >As cranky as it's been around here, were
> > > > > > > > > >I you, I'd, um, duck.

> > > > > > > > > Don't be so chicken, Bob!

> > > > > > > > Lookit! He's wrenning away!

> > > > > > > From the goose...?

> > > > > > I'm heron no egrets.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (thought I'd pigdeon in here.)

> > > > > I find that hard to swallow.

> > > > Crowing like that breaks one of the cardinal rules of usenet.

> > > Don't grouse, Bob.

> > I quail at the thought of this thread going on forever.
>
> Oh, why? It's just a lark.

A *lark*?! You really need to face the stork reality of life.

Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady

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On 03 Jun 2003 15:19:48 GMT, gekko <ge...@lutz.kicks-ass.org.invalid>
wrote:

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Mynah! Aren't you the snipe-y one, today!

Jenna Thomas-McKie

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Jun 4, 2003, 10:03:22 AM6/4/03

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Davida Chazan - The Chocolate Lady <7zcm...@sneakemail.com> wrote in
news:c02sdvcqa05lie5mg...@4ax.com:

I think we should just tern the other cheek, Davida, when she gets like
this. Doves this mean I think we should ignore her? No. But there's no
need to egg her on, either.

--
Jenna Thomas-McKie
jth...@aug.edu

Some people have one of those days. I have one of those lives.

Stan (the Man)

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Jun 4, 2003, 10:47:47 AM6/4/03

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It is with deep egret that I must inform you this ridiculous thread is
now closed.

Stan (I can't believe I did that)
<http://www.tocquevillian.com>

Jenna Thomas-McKie

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"Stan (the Man)" <sk...@optonline.net> wrote in
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Hawk-ome you think you're the boss? Buzzard off, you.

> Stan (I can't believe I did that)

Could have knocked me over with a feather.

--
Jenna Thomas-McKie
jth...@aug.edu

Circular Definition: see Circular Definition

Dick Harper

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Jun 5, 2003, 12:51:22 PM6/5/03

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gekko eloquently commented in misc.writing

> > Yeah, what *did* you do with the last one, gek?
>
> DADT is my philosophy.

Dood A Day Toy.

--Dick

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have to be disagreeable to each other.
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