Let's Pick on France
Elizabeth Moon
Howard Hursey wrote:
>
> Within a few weeks, the United States
> will go into its traditional "We hate the French" mode.
> (snip)
>
> Just you wait. The cycle means a good old frog frenzy is due.
>
> HH
Shoot, and I was all poised to pick on Argentina...
E.
--
"A little raised number at the end of a statement is not an icon of
inerrancy." _British Medical Journal_
Howard Hursey
It's as certain as a Ken Starr subpoena and Saddam Insane. Alabama,
as usual, is at the vanguard. Within a few weeks, the United States
will go into its traditional "We hate the French" mode.
I guarantee it. As soon as a convenient date becomes available for
some "hands off" plastering of Iraqi buildings, the French will offend
us by not putting America's interests first. Other countries do this
all the time, but we only notice the French.
Remember when France wouldn't let us fly over their airspace to bomb
Libya? We got mad at them, and Alabama officially banned the sale of
French wine (almost bringing France to its economic knees).
It turns out that the French were making up for an American betrayal
in a earlier, jointly planned covert operation: The French spooks
would make their move at a certain time and the U.S. spooks would
cover them. Well, the French did their part, but the Americans never
showed -- which left several French spooks dead. (Guess who lead the
no-show, BTW. Oliver "American Hero" North.)
We got outraged at the French over the Libya rebuff and made quite a
self-righteous spectacle of bashing France. France was diplomatic
enough not to publicize its reasons for flight refusal.
France-bashing just happens regularly. And it's something that
fascinates me. France is the country Americans love to hate. I think
I know why:
We are so much like the French, and we hate seeing ourselves in the
mirror. Narrow minded, chauvinistic, pompous, self-centered and
bigoted. But, the French bring such panache to their warts. And they
have better food. Plus, it galls us that they don't care what we
think.
Susan Jane Hogarth
Howard Hursey (hhu...@mindspring.com) wrote:
:
: Just you wait. The cycle means a good old frog frenzy is due.
:
Frog Frenzy - I *love* it!
--
Susan (who apparently didn't get the *point* of your thought-provoking post:)
"I am the dog I let out in the morning
wagging and panting at the open door." - Marie Ponsot
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Fred Willard
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 02:36:53, hhu...@mindspring.com (Howard Hursey)
wrote:
>
> It's as certain as a Ken Starr subpoena and Saddam Insane. Alabama,
> as usual, is at the vanguard. Within a few weeks, the United States
> will go into its traditional "We hate the French" mode.
>
As the Frenchies were so clever as to buy my book this month, I love
them.
I always have loved them.
I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for world
domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
Fred
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Jacques E. Bouchard
Howard Hursey wrote:
> Remember when France wouldn't let us fly over their airspace to bomb
> Libya? We got mad at them, and Alabama officially banned the sale of
> French wine (almost bringing France to its economic knees).
A ban on french cornhusk hooch would be much more efficient in
Alabama.
jaybee
Nathalie Mège
Fred Willard <fwillar...@mindspring.com> wrote about France :
> I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for world
> domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
Please do!!! By all means!!!
Nathalie Mège
Howard Hursey
fwillar...@mindspring.com (Fred Willard) wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 02:36:53, hhu...@mindspring.com (Howard Hursey)
>wrote:
>
>>
>> It's as certain as a Ken Starr subpoena and Saddam Insane. Alabama,
>> as usual, is at the vanguard. Within a few weeks, the United States
>> will go into its traditional "We hate the French" mode.
>>
>
>As the Frenchies were so clever as to buy my book this month, I love
>them.
>
>I always have loved them.
>
>I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for world
>domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
>
>Fred
Oh, I like the French, too. It's just that France is kind of a
"default scapegoat" for the U.S., and I find that intriguing.
Don't know about the dance, though, Fred. You could be mistaken for
Jerry Lewis, or maybe The Terror.
Howard
Howard Hursey
nm...@newedge.fr (Nathalie Mège) wrote:
>Fred Willard <fwillar...@mindspring.com> wrote about France :
>
>> I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for world
>> domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
>
>Please do!!! By all means!!!
>
>Nathalie Mège
Non, Nathalie! One look at the dance, and you'd be packing him off to
Elba.
Howard
Howard Hursey
Elizabeth Moon <elizabe...@sff.net> wrote:
>Howard Hursey wrote:
>>
>> Within a few weeks, the United States
>> will go into its traditional "We hate the French" mode.
>> (snip)
>>
>> Just you wait. The cycle means a good old frog frenzy is due.
>>
>> HH
>
>Shoot, and I was all poised to pick on Argentina...
>
>E.
We'll get around to them. France is traditional, though. It's
required.
Howard
Marie Moore
Howard Hursey wrote:
> Oh, I like the French, too. It's just that France is kind of a
> "default scapegoat" for the U.S., and I find that intriguing.
Leave it to HH to wedge a goat (that would be "chevre" BTW) into every
possible thread.
--MM
Howard Hursey
Marie Moore <marie...@template.com> wrote:
(I KNEW you would catch that, Marie.)
It's not easy to wedge goats into every thread. The goats often
protest and become unmanageable.
Howard
Fred Willard
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:53:41, hhu...@mindspring.com (Howard Hursey)
wrote:
> nm...@newedge.fr (Nathalie MŠge) wrote:
>
> >Fred Willard <fwillar...@mindspring.com> wrote about Franceÿ:
> >
> >> I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for world
> >> domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
> >
> >Please do!!! By all means!!!
> >
> >Nathalie MŠge
>
> Non, Nathalie! One look at the dance, and you'd be packing him off to
> Elba.
>
> Howard
The hundred days of Muddy Waters...
I'm a man, I'm a hoochie coochie man...
Howard Hursey
fwillar...@mindspring.com (Fred Willard) wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:53:41, hhu...@mindspring.com (Howard Hursey)
>wrote:
>
>> nm...@newedge.fr (Nathalie MŠge) wrote:
>>
>> >Fred Willard <fwillar...@mindspring.com> wrote about Franceÿ:
>> >
>> >> I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for world
>> >> domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
>> >
>> >Please do!!! By all means!!!
>> >
>> >Nathalie MŠge
>>
>> Non, Nathalie! One look at the dance, and you'd be packing him off to
>> Elba.
>>
>> Howard
>
>The hundred days of Muddy Waters...
>
>I'm a man, I'm a hoochie coochie man...
>
>Fred
Fred "Astaire" Willard, as they call him down on Ponce.
Howard
Fred Willard
> Fred Willard <fwillar...@mindspring.com> wrote about Franceÿ:
>
> > I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for world
> > domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
>
> Please do!!! By all means!!!
>
> Nathalie MŠge
I need to work on the subsection of my sinister plan for world
domination called "acquire funds." Then I'm there.
Gene Royer
Howard Hursey <hhu...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
<34ef9839....@news.mindspring.com>...
> fwillar...@mindspring.com (Fred Willard) wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 12:53:41, hhu...@mindspring.com (Howard Hursey)
> >wrote:
> >
> >> nm...@newedge.fr (Nathalie MŠge) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Fred Willard <fwillar...@mindspring.com> wrote about Franceÿ:
> >> >
> >> >> I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for
world
> >> >> domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
> >> >
> >> >Please do!!! By all means!!!
> >> >
> >> >Nathalie MŠge
> >>
> >> Non, Nathalie! One look at the dance, and you'd be packing him off to
> >> Elba.
> >>
> >> Howard
> >
> >The hundred days of Muddy Waters...
> >
> >I'm a man, I'm a hoochie coochie man...
> >
> >Fred
>
> Fred "Astaire" Willard, as they call him down on Ponce.
>
> Howard
I may have mentioned it here on the NG. In December of last year I
discovered that my Grandfather--the Venerable Simon Royer--was not a Royer
at all. He was actually a *******, which is obviously French. He was
adopted by a family of Royers in the late 1870's. (Sort of like Romulus
and Remus)
So, all this time when I thought I was of full English descent, I'm half
Frog. (no funny jokes, Howard)
But my granny was a Green.
--geno<apparently no relation to the Net Ghod>royer
>
Don May
On 17 Feb 1998 14:02:50 GMT, fwillar...@mindspring.com (Fred
Willard) wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:44:47, nm...@newedge.fr
>(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nathalie_M=E8ge?=) wrote:
>
>> Fred Willard <fwillar...@mindspring.com> wrote about Franceÿ:
>>
>> > I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for world
>> > domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
>>
>> Please do!!! By all means!!!
>>
>> Nathalie MŠge
>
>I need to work on the subsection of my sinister plan for world
>domination called "acquire funds." Then I'm there.
The "Ladies Overseas Aid" was how Lucy and Ethel go about acquiring
funds. Fred.
Ethel: "Lucy, are you sure this is legal?"
Lucy: "We're ladies. We want to go overseas. And boy do we need aid."
Can I come too?
Don (No Howard, you can not bring the Goats. Ladies or not.)
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Don May
On 17 Feb 1998 14:29:07 GMT, "Gene Royer" <int...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
>
>I may have mentioned it here on the NG. In December of last year I
>discovered that my Grandfather--the Venerable Simon Royer--was not a Royer
>at all. He was actually a *******, which is obviously French. He was
>adopted by a family of Royers in the late 1870's. (Sort of like Romulus
>and Remus)
>
>So, all this time when I thought I was of full English descent, I'm half
>Frog. (no funny jokes, Howard)
>
>But my granny was a Green.
Was your grandfather a Putting?
Don DuBois-Herring/McLeod-May
"The great advantage of having an ancestry like that of a mongrel dog
is I have so many ancestral homes to go home to."-- Don May
William R. Penrose
>It's as certain as a Ken Starr subpoena and Saddam Insane. Alabama,
>as usual, is at the vanguard. Within a few weeks, the United States
>will go into its traditional "We hate the French" mode.
Too easy. As an expatriate Canadian, all I have to do is remember DeGaulle
announcing "Vive le Quebec libre!" maybe 25 years ago.
(On the other hand, I remember being helped to find a hotel in Paris by a
cabbie who stopped charging me after the bill reached about 60 fr. It
finally took about 2 hours.)
But how about those Belgians?
Bill
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On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:42:17, tm...@slip.net (Don May) wrote:
> On 17 Feb 1998 14:02:50 GMT, fwillar...@mindspring.com (Fred
> Willard) wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 09:44:47, nm...@newedge.fr
> >(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nathalie_M=E8ge?=) wrote:
> >
> >> Fred Willard <fwillar...@mindspring.com> wrote about France˜:
> >>
> >> > I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for world
> >> > domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
> >>
> >> Please do!!! By all means!!!
> >>
> >> Nathalie Mþge
> >
> >I need to work on the subsection of my sinister plan for world
> >domination called "acquire funds." Then I'm there.
>
>
>
> The "Ladies Overseas Aid" was how Lucy and Ethel go about acquiring
> funds. Fred.
>
> Ethel: "Lucy, are you sure this is legal?"
> Lucy: "We're ladies. We want to go overseas. And boy do we need aid."
>
> Can I come too?
>
> Don (No Howard, you can not bring the Goats. Ladies or not.)
I think we should form the Marching Hoochie Coochie Man Dancers. This
would be somewhat like a marching band only we would dance down the
street followed by a sound truck playing The Muddy Waters version of
"I'm a Man."
Once we had the troop assembled, we could take it to France.
If health laws permit, we might let Howard bring the goat auxiliary
along... dressed in full Hoochie Coochie Goat Regalia, of course.
(shades, pork pie, two-tones). They could march before the dancing
troop. That would make the steps livelier as we tried to avoid the
Goat pellets.
Nathalie Mège
Fred Willard <fwillar...@mindspring.com> wrote (écrivait) :
> > > I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for world
> > > domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
> I need to work on the subsection of my sinister plan for world
> domination called "acquire funds." Then I'm there.
What about getting invited by your French publisher?
Nathalie
Nathalie Mège
Don May <tm...@slip.net> wrote (écrivait) :
> Can I come too?
Ab-solutely. But you might find us boring, you know. In addition to
'chevre', we even have Radical Faeries here ;-)
Nathalie Mège
Fred Willard
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:11:08, nm...@newedge.fr
(=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nathalie_M=E8ge?=) wrote:
> Fred Willard <fwillar...@mindspring.com> wrote (‚crivait)˙:
>
> > > > I'd like to live there for awhile, work on my sinister plan for world
> > > > domination and demonstrate my famous Hoochie Coochie Man Dance.
>
> > I need to work on the subsection of my sinister plan for world
> > domination called "acquire funds." Then I'm there.
>
> What about getting invited by your French publisher?
>
> Nathalie
That would be even better!
Don May
On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 23:11:10 +0100, nm...@newedge.fr (Nathalie Mège)
wrote:
Paris boring...jamais! Even the 'chevre' are more beautiful there.
For all those silly people who think the French have attitude problems
I share this simple little secret for getting along in Paris...The
French are masters at giving back what they recieve...A polite bonjour
as you enter a shop may make the difference between an arctic gale and
a gentle Polynesian breeze...Civilité...And don't go in August. ;-)
Don
Howard Hursey
nm...@newedge.fr (Nathalie Mège) wrote:
>Don May <tm...@slip.net> wrote (écrivait) :
>
>> Can I come too?
>
>Ab-solutely. But you might find us boring, you know. In addition to
>'chevre', we even have Radical Faeries here ;-)
>
>Nathalie Mège
Wasn't the book "Is Paris Boring" made into a movie?
Howard
Gene Royer
Howard Hursey <hhu...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
<34ea40cc....@news.mindspring.com>...
Yeah, but that was about the guy inside the Trojan Horse. Apparently it
was the only way he could get out.
--Geno
>
Howard Hursey
"Gene Royer" <int...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
No, Gene. Wrong story. The French would have surrendered long before
the guy got out of the horse.
HH
Alexander J Berman
In article <yg3SZLUqhHVm-p...@user-37kbu4j.dialup.mindspring.com>, fwillar...@mindspring.com wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:42:17, tm...@slip.net (Don May) wrote:
>I think we should form the Marching Hoochie Coochie Man Dancers. This
>would be somewhat like a marching band only we would dance down the
>street followed by a sound truck playing The Muddy Waters version of
>"I'm a Man."
>Fred
Which version? Not the one with the screeching backup singers, I hope.
By the way, the song's called "Mannish Boy".
Alex Jay Berman
-- "I say "M" ... "A", child ... "N"--dat reppazent "Man" ...
Tyranny has its place. Universal freedom would deny my right to restrict Jeffrey Dahmer's recreational and dietary habits. -- Spider Robinson
Fred Willard
On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 04:08:22, smeg...@erols.com (Alexander J Berman)
wrote:
> In article <yg3SZLUqhHVm-p...@user-37kbu4j.dialup.mindspring.com>, fwillar...@mindspring.com wrote:
> >On Tue, 17 Feb 1998 14:42:17, tm...@slip.net (Don May) wrote:
> >I think we should form the Marching Hoochie Coochie Man Dancers. This
> >would be somewhat like a marching band only we would dance down the
> >street followed by a sound truck playing The Muddy Waters version of
> >"I'm a Man."
>
> >Fred
>
> Which version? Not the one with the screeching backup singers, I hope.
> By the way, the song's called "Mannish Boy".
>
> Alex Jay Berman
Your right. He does call his "I'm a Man" "Mannish Boy." The Stones
called their cover that too. I'm not sure who the copyright holder is,
if there is one. And who is covering who. It's basically the same song
as "Bad to the Bone" as well.
I've heard about umpteen different versions of Muddy Waters doing it.
For a long time he had different presentations of his music. The real
stuff was played at his club and was electric. When he went to the
festivals where they wanted to hear "the real authentic blues" he'd
play acoustic.
I always thought it was funny that by choice the folk/blues festival
fans didn't listen to one of the best, if not the best blues band
ever.
Kurt Ullman
In article <yg3SZLUqhHVm-p...@user-38lca0f.dialup.mindspring.com>,
fwillar...@mindspring.com wrote:
>Your right. He does call his "I'm a Man" "Mannish Boy."
If it the same I'm a Man as Chicago and Spenser Davis Group.
"I'm an man, yes I am and I can't help but love you so" *horn stinger*
The copyright is held by Steve Winwood and others.
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nm...@newedge.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nathalie_M=E8ge?=) wrote:
>Ab-solutely. But you might find us boring, you know. In addition to
>'chevre', we even have Radical Faeries here ;-)
Isn't chevre a cheese?
KimBoo "I follow the food threads only..." York
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Alexander J Berman
In article <6cere6$gdp$5...@newsfep4.sprintmail.com>, kurtu...@sprintmail.com (Kurt Ullman) wrote:
>In article <yg3SZLUqhHVm-p...@user-38lca0f.dialup.mindspring.com>,
>fwillar...@mindspring.com wrote:
>
>>Your right. He does call his "I'm a Man" "Mannish Boy."
>
> If it the same I'm a Man as Chicago and Spenser Davis Group.
>
>"I'm an man, yes I am and I can't help but love you so" *horn stinger*
>
>The copyright is held by Steve Winwood and others.
'Tain't. We're talkin' 'bout the real folk blues here, written over a decade
before Little Stevie started singing.
Alex Jay Berman
-- soul man
Richard Guziewicz
Howard Hursey a écrit dans le message
<34e8ef81....@news.mindspring.com>...
>
>France-bashing just happens regularly. And it's something that
>fascinates me. France is the country Americans love to hate.
Rest assured that the U.S.A. is the country that the French love to
hate --and hate loving!
> I think I know why:
>We are so much like the French, and we hate seeing ourselves in the
>mirror. Narrow minded, chauvinistic, pompous, self-centered and
>bigoted. But, the French bring such panache to their warts. And they
>have better food. Plus, it galls us that they don't care what we
>think.
Replace French with "Americans" (less the bit about the food, of course) and
you'll understand why the French have this love-hate relationship with "le
bon vieux Oncle Sam".
--
Richard Guziewicz
Tarn River Valley, France
Kurt Ullman
In article <6cgm6d$66l$1...@winter.news.erols.com>, smeg...@erols.com (Alexander
J Berman) wrote:
>'Tain't. We're talkin' 'bout the real folk blues here, written over a decade
>before Little Stevie started singing.
Never mind....