Found on another group
john.ku...@sympatico.ca
Harley's
over the cheers of 200,000 Germans.
More proof of how the Conservative right is directly connected to the
Hells
Angels. "
Mac Taylor
Towse
Not quite what I saw in an Obama ad that's running.
<http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/08/obama_radio_ad_in_wisconsin.php>
<http://snipurl.com/3gjl3>
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Thomas Armagost
Towse <se...@towse.com> wrote:
>
> Koolc...@smurfsareus.xxx wrote:
>
>> "I have it on good authority that McCain prefers the roar of
>> 50,000 Harley's over the cheers of 200,000 Germans.
>
>> More proof of how the Conservative right is directly connected
>> to the Hells Angels."
>
> Mac Taylor
"According to the US Department of Justice, [Hells Angels] members
must be men over 21 years of age and are required to own a Harley
Davidson motorcycle."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hells_Angels
Wikipedia says that the birthplace of the Hells Angels is Fontana,
California. Fontana is not far from where I attended college. A
motorcycle club that predated the Hells Angels was named "The Pissed
Off Bastards of Bloomington." Bloomington, California, is just south
of San Bernadino. It's not too far from where I presently live.
> Not quite what I saw in an Obama ad that's running.
>
I like Obama a lot more than I like some of his TV commercials, which
could be described as counterattack ads. I suppose they're
necessary. Hopefully they won't discourage new voters.
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Bill Penrose
> I like Obama a lot more than I like some of his TV commercials, which
> could be described as counterattack ads. I suppose they're
> necessary. Hopefully they won't discourage new voters.
The sad truth is that only negative, ad hominem ads work. Issues are
boring. People want entertainment.
DB
serenebabe
I'm holding out hope that the Obama campaign realizes they'd lose a
*lot* of us if they go negative and away from the real issues.
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Towse
>> The sad truth is that only negative, ad hominem ads work. Issues are
>> boring. People want entertainment.
>
> I'm holding out hope that the Obama campaign realizes they'd lose a
> *lot* of us if they go negative and away from the real issues.
You know? I think Obama knows that. I think it's something he wouldn't
feel right about anyway.
Lord knows there is plenty he could've piled on McCain by now if he let
the dirt tricksters loose.
Some folk are saying, "Go! Fight! Hit 'im back! Piss on 'im. FIGHT FIGHT
FIGHT." Those folk are the old paradigm. I'm a-hoping Obama will keep
his cool and think the dirty tricksters are squick.
And I'm hoping the voters will appreciate a candidate who doesn't buy
into the old paradigm.
Time will tell.
We elect the President we deserve.
Ash Wensdee
suffer, like this:
>serenebabe wrote:
>
>>> The sad truth is that only negative, ad hominem ads work. Issues are
>>> boring. People want entertainment.
>>
>> I'm holding out hope that the Obama campaign realizes they'd lose a
>> *lot* of us if they go negative and away from the real issues.
wat
>
>You know? I think Obama knows that. I think it's something he wouldn't
>feel right about anyway.
wat
He felt fine about sprinting to the right as soon as he got nominated.
Sister, he'd do *anything* to win.
>
>Lord knows there is plenty he could've piled on McCain by now if he let
>the dirt tricksters loose.
Without a compliant media, it's not so simple.
>
>Some folk are saying, "Go! Fight! Hit 'im back! Piss on 'im. FIGHT FIGHT
>FIGHT." Those folk are the old paradigm. I'm a-hoping Obama will keep
>his cool and think the dirty tricksters are squick.
wat
Aren't you a Repugnicunt anyway?
Who gives a shit what you people are hoping for?
>
>And I'm hoping the voters will appreciate a candidate who doesn't buy
>into the old paradigm.
wat
Have you been asleep for the past three months? You drank the KoolAid
and passed out and only now have woken?
>
>Time will tell.
>
>We elect the President we deserve.
Shit, let's hope not. Let's hope you elect the one the rest of us
deserve.
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sounds like fun
Ash Wensdee
Towse
> Towse <se...@towse.com> wrote
>> Time will tell.
>>
>> We elect the President we deserve.
>
> Shit, let's hope not. Let's hope you elect the one the rest of us
> deserve.
I am one vote.
We elect the President we deserve.
Your vote counts too, if you vote. Do what you can do to elect the
person you feel you deserve.
john.ku...@sympatico.ca
Towse wrote:
> Ash Wensdee wrote:
> > Towse <se...@towse.com> wrote
>
> >> Time will tell.
> >>
> >> We elect the President we deserve.
> >
> > Shit, let's hope not. Let's hope you elect the one the rest of us
> > deserve.
>
> I am one vote.
>
> We elect the President we deserve.
>
> Your vote counts too, if you vote. Do what you can do to elect the
> person you feel you deserve.
>
> --
> Sal
>
Well that would be all ok if you kept your president to the USA and
you forgien policy confined to Alaska, but the reality is that the
rest of the world has to live with the president you elect and we have
no say at all.
serenebabe
> serenebabe wrote:
> DB wrote: (and serenebabe added in the cite she thinks she snipped)
>>> The sad truth is that only negative, ad hominem ads work. Issues are
>>> boring. People want entertainment.
>>
>> I'm holding out hope that the Obama campaign realizes they'd lose a
>> *lot* of us if they go negative and away from the real issues.
>
> You know? I think Obama knows that. I think it's something he wouldn't
> feel right about anyway.
>
> Lord knows there is plenty he could've piled on McCain by now if he let
> the dirt tricksters loose.
>
> Some folk are saying, "Go! Fight! Hit 'im back! Piss on 'im. FIGHT
> FIGHT FIGHT." Those folk are the old paradigm. I'm a-hoping Obama will
> keep his cool and think the dirty tricksters are squick.
>
> And I'm hoping the voters will appreciate a candidate who doesn't buy
> into the old paradigm.
>
> Time will tell.
>
> We elect the President we deserve.
It's one of the major reasons I'm a supporter even though I'm annoyed
by the "fans" attitude a lot of people I know take.
I do believe in electing the best candidate among our choices, but I
got a little burned in MN years ago. I voted for who I *wanted* in
office (Green party candidate) and got Jesse Ventura. Grimace. So, if
Obama's campaign (I think he personally wouldn't want to, I really
believe that (see how he didn't immediately distance himself from his
kick-ass-but-confused Pastor)) chose to go negative, he probably
wouldn't actually *lose* my support. But, I'm hoping with you it
doesn't come to that.
Jackson Pillock
>
> It's one of the major reasons I'm a supporter even though I'm annoyed
> by the "fans" attitude a lot of people I know take.
>
> I do believe in electing the best candidate among our choices, but I
> got a little burned in MN years ago. I voted for who I *wanted* in
> office (Green party candidate) and got Jesse Ventura. Grimace. So, if
> Obama's campaign (I think he personally wouldn't want to, I really
> believe that (see how he didn't immediately distance himself from his
> kick-ass-but-confused Pastor)) chose to go negative, he probably
> wouldn't actually *lose* my support. But, I'm hoping with you it
> doesn't come to that.
>
>
Negative campainging is usually junk-sophistry, manufacturing consent
rather than doing the work of fostering a well-informed population who
inform their leaders on issues, as well as giving informed consent to
clearly stated policies. That's how it's supposed to work, anyway.
Towse
>
> Towse wrote:
>> Ash Wensdee wrote:
>>> Towse <se...@towse.com> wrote
>>>> Time will tell.
>>>>
>>>> We elect the President we deserve.
>>> Shit, let's hope not. Let's hope you elect the one the rest of us
>>> deserve.
>> I am one vote.
>>
>> We elect the President we deserve.
>>
>> Your vote counts too, if you vote. Do what you can do to elect the
>> person you feel you deserve.
> Well that would be all ok if you kept your president to the USA and
> you forgien policy confined to Alaska, but the reality is that the
> rest of the world has to live with the president you elect and we have
> no say at all.
You can work with the groups that work with American voters abroad to
help register voters and get them out to vote. You can talk with
Americans you know. You can write letters to the editors of American papers.
We have no say about the Canadian government or the Ukranian government
or the Iranian government.
I'm not whining about that.
john.ku...@sympatico.ca
Well the Ukrainians are whatever brand your state department bought at
the time, just like the Georgians. The Iranians ar a rection to the
government your state department bought there back in the 60's I
think. So you've had a say in both of those.
As for we few, we brave Canadians, the last time you picked a fight
with us, we burnred down Washington. That's not to say you don't have
any inflence here, just look at Alberta.
$Zero
(was: Re: Found on another group)
On Aug 18, 3:26�am, Towse <s...@towse.com> wrote:
> I am one vote.
what a great t-shirt that would make.
-$Zero...
how many pennies do you make per minute?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.writing/msg/d489dc9444afe89d
serenebabe
<jackson...@hotmail.com> said:
> serenebabe <seren...@gmail.com> wrote in news:g8bp5l$9nf$1...@aioe.org:
<...>
>> I do believe in electing the best candidate among our choices, but I
>> got a little burned in MN years ago. I voted for who I *wanted* in
>> office (Green party candidate) and got Jesse Ventura. Grimace. So, if
>> Obama's campaign (I think he personally wouldn't want to, I really
>> believe that (see how he didn't immediately distance himself from his
>> kick-ass-but-confused Pastor)) chose to go negative, he probably
>> wouldn't actually *lose* my support. But, I'm hoping with you it
>> doesn't come to that.
>
> Negative campainging is usually junk-sophistry, manufacturing consent
> rather than doing the work of fostering a well-informed population who
> inform their leaders on issues, as well as giving informed consent to
> clearly stated policies. That's how it's supposed to work, anyway.
Not many people have faith in the system, sadly.
boots
>On 2008-08-18 08:26:06 -0400, Jackson Pillock
><jackson...@hotmail.com> said:
>
>> serenebabe <seren...@gmail.com> wrote in news:g8bp5l$9nf$1...@aioe.org:
><...>
>>> I do believe in electing the best candidate among our choices, but I
>>> got a little burned in MN years ago. I voted for who I *wanted* in
>>> office (Green party candidate) and got Jesse Ventura. Grimace. So, if
>>> Obama's campaign (I think he personally wouldn't want to, I really
>>> believe that (see how he didn't immediately distance himself from his
>>> kick-ass-but-confused Pastor)) chose to go negative, he probably
>>> wouldn't actually *lose* my support. But, I'm hoping with you it
>>> doesn't come to that.
>>
>> Negative campainging is usually junk-sophistry, manufacturing consent
>> rather than doing the work of fostering a well-informed population who
>> inform their leaders on issues, as well as giving informed consent to
>> clearly stated policies. That's how it's supposed to work, anyway.
>
>Not many people have faith in the system, sadly.
Either people knowingly instigated a farce when they set up the
system, or it hasn't worked as intended and they believe it will
continue to betray the intent of those who initiated it.
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[superstitious heathen grade 8]
Ash Wensdee
suffer, like this:
>Koolc...@smurfsareus.xxx wrote:
>>
>> Towse wrote:
>>> Ash Wensdee wrote:
>>>> Towse <se...@towse.com> wrote
>>>>> Time will tell.
>>>>>
>>>>> We elect the President we deserve.
>>>> Shit, let's hope not. Let's hope you elect the one the rest of us
>>>> deserve.
>>> I am one vote.
>>>
>>> We elect the President we deserve.
>>>
>>> Your vote counts too, if you vote. Do what you can do to elect the
>>> person you feel you deserve.
>
>> Well that would be all ok if you kept your president to the USA and
>> you forgien policy confined to Alaska, but the reality is that the
>> rest of the world has to live with the president you elect and we have
>> no say at all.
>
>You can work with the groups that work with American voters abroad to
>help register voters and get them out to vote. You can talk with
>Americans you know. You can write letters to the editors of American papers.
>
>We have no say about the Canadian government or the Ukranian government
>or the Iranian government.
>
>I'm not whining about that.
You're about the only person who isn't. Half your nation wants Iran
severely damaged.
Ash Wensdee
suffer, like this:
>Ash Wensdee wrote:
>> Towse <se...@towse.com> wrote
>
>>> Time will tell.
>>>
>>> We elect the President we deserve.
>>
>> Shit, let's hope not. Let's hope you elect the one the rest of us
>> deserve.
>
>I am one vote.
That was "you" general, dear.
>
>We elect the President we deserve.
As I say, let's hope not. You deserve a fucking horrible one. You're
horrible people, all in all. Your record sucks too. Reagan was bad
enough but Bush II took the biccie.
>
>Your vote counts too, if you vote. Do what you can do to elect the
>person you feel you deserve.
I am not American and don't get a say. I'll just be suffering the
consequences.
Ash Wensdee
now the world must suffer, like this:
>serenebabe <seren...@gmail.com> wrote in news:g8bp5l$9nf$1...@aioe.org:
Wake the fuck up, starry-eyed boy. If Obama expressed what he stands
for, he would barely scoop a single vote. "I intend to pursue policies
that enrich corporations at your expense, while pushing a few cosmetic
policies to make you think that I'm on your side." He's not special:
the same message applies to any viable presidential candidate.
Ash Wensdee
like this:
>serenebabe <seren...@gmail.com> wrote:
The system works perfectly.
boots
Ash Wensdee
I daresay I would if it worked for me.
boots
Well, there's that. Given that it's been a hoax to take in rubes from
the go, you can either tear it down (which is illegal within the
system), change it from within (which will be resisted by those for
whom it was established), or you can ignore it and wait for it to go
away like a schoolyard bully. It will you know, if you can ignore it,
but it's so pervasive that totally ignoring it is for all intents and
purposes impossible. One can ignore as much as possible though, until
some bright fellow invents a method of satisfying peoples' needs
without paying it obeisance. I'd hate to be the guy who invented a
means of obtaining unlimited electricity for example from a device the
size of a wallet that cost nearly nothing, that would shorten a
fellow's life expectancy down near the nub. We can whine though,
whining is permitted. Encouraged, even. <waah!>