Apology requested by Katy from Stephanie
Stanley Taragowski
Never believe an 'Au revoir' when you hear one.
Another email from Katy333 appeared this a.m. in the old mail box.
Should I have posted it along with this apology? What's the etiquette?
I thought not.
She asked that I post a public apology. Apparently someone (or more than
one) is/are harassing her and doing some dirty-emailing, pretending to
be Katy33333. Who knew this was possible? Katy-wanna-be's: Arreter-vous!
I do apologize for the snippy response I posted as regards the 2 - page
psycho dissertation I received <ostensibly from Katy3333> a couple days
ago - on the malevolent and moronic nature of copywriters as a whole. I
should have been big enough to ignore it and not clog up the net w/all
that gobbledy gook. I mean, sure, playing with words to make a buck
isn't deep, but it pays the rent. I manage to keep my head up. Well, at
least most of the time.
So I guess...if anyone gets a bizarre email, from, say, a friend, you
probably should call first...
Adieu
Stephanie
Karen Mayer
victim to this kind of harassment. I've not (so far) been a victim
of the email forgery thing, but I did once get a phone call from
someone who claimed to be a good friend of someone very close to
me (do you know who I'm talking about?).
This supposed friend of mind, I was told, confided to him
something that normally he would never have divulged, but considering
the nature of the confidence, he just couldn't sit by and let
something like that happen to such a wonderful person as me (do you
know who this is?).
I did catch on before he could do any damage, but I learned from
that experience that there really are some people out there that
enjoy throwing wrenches into other people's lives. They must be
sad individuals, indeed!
-- karen
In article <4dmma1$5...@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>,
CrimeAuth
(Stanley Taragowski ) writes:
>Apparently someone (or more than
>one) is/are harassing her and doing some dirty-emailing, pretending to
>be Katy33333.
I too have gotten what I now believe were "fake" katy333 e-mails. I got
them a few weeks back, when she and I were involved in a confrontation.
(Other members of the newsgroup can verify this, because I discussed it
via e-mail with some of them at the time.) Those e-mails really affected
the way I react whenever I see her postings (as I'm sure you've noticed!).
Now today I received two new katy e-mails -- extremely vicious responses
to a posting I addressed to her yesterday. Their writing style is similar
to that of the previous e-mails.
I am unsubscribing from this newsgroup, so I'm sure that will solve this
problem for me.
But those of you who remain in MWV should beware -- don't always assume
your e-mails are coming from the signatured source.
-- patricia
JMingo
>>Apparently someone (or more than
>>one) is/are harassing her and doing some dirty-emailing, pretending to
>>be Katy33333.
>
>I too have gotten what I now believe were "fake" katy333 e-mails.
Well, this is odd. Did either of you save copies? We could track down any
discrepancies through AOL to determine whether it really is a phony Katy,
or just our own Katy in her sometimes direct, sometimes unknowingly
abrasive New York style.
Katy, any clues?
Jack (Katy numbers count or fit?) Mingo
JMingo
Go up to "Check mail you've sent" under MAIL and it will give you access
to mail sent out in your name on your account (although what was composed
and sent while reading the newsgroup does not appear, for some reason).
Read through the letters. Check to see if there are any that you haven't
sent.
Now the tricky part: Also check to see if any of your letters might be
misconstrued as hostile or odd out of context by someone who doesn't know
you well. It could be that the message you think you're writing is being
received in a different way by the reader. To tiptoe into sensitive areas,
I do believe I've seen a few of these in some of your posts--where
something you believe is innocuous is something that hurts feelings or
drives another person wild. (As if I should talk!)
If someone else is using your account and posting in your name, I am
almost certain AOL can trace the source. However, if it's a matter of
miscommunication, you might want to fine tune your responses a bit.
Jack (Change your password, regardless) Mingo
Katy333333
to use my account at my apartment. I hate to even give them the idea, but
could it be the Jolly Roger crew using pirate tactics on my e-mail? Are
any of the return address from unc.edu? I have been very direct in my
criticism of them. I can't think of any one in my personal life disturbed
enough to want to do this to me.... so I guess it's from on-line.
Actually-- there was one very, disturbed man who stalked me about about a
year ago from the Seattle Portlan area. Maybe it is him?
I really am very sorry-- this is the first I have heard of it. No one has
said anything to me before about this.
claguire
For instance, I have a PPP account that is separate from my e-mail
account, so the return address on my posts is NOT entered automatically.
I configured my newsreader to list my address, but I could just as easily
put someone else's address in that line. Therefore, if I send mail
through my newsreader, it will put whatever return address I want on it.
Camille
Katy333333
sent.
Now the tricky part: Also check to see if any of your letters might be
misconstrued as hostile or odd out of context by someone who doesn't
know<<
Dear Jack,
1) The first thing I did was check my out-going mail. There's nothing I
did not send listed.
2) I am the only one who lives here because my husband tours constantly so
no one else could be using my account from here. I have no children. I
am here when people are working here and I haven't spotted of my two
employees using AOL and none of them are psychos anyway.
3) It can't be a misconstrued e-mail because I have NOT sent anyone on
this bulletin board any e-mail, except for a few requests in the past
couple of days trying to track down this mystery. And I have not sent
anyone 1- or 2-page evenly remotely antagonistic letters or anything that
could be interpreted as such.
4) Is it possible that some people have programs that do not list the
actual return e-mail address or that they have failed to check against the
routing header? Is it possible that a very computer-savvy person could
emulate my address somehow? Maybe the jerk took my name minus one 3 and
it just looks a lot like it?
My main question: am I the only one having this trouble? Has anyone else
on this board received hostile letters supposedly written by another
member of the group and are they saying nothing? Because, frankly, if it
was someone from the old flame wars with MOSS, I was hardly the biggest
jerk there. And when it comes to the Jolly Roger crew, I am one of dozens
insulting them from this board. There is only person posting slightly
bizarre proposals on this board who I seem to be the only one insulting,
though it was a mild insult. I don't want to name him and accuse him
unjustly. Other than that, Jack, I don't think even the most sensitive
normal person would consider even my most acerbic posts as insult enough
to start sending out pages-long hate letters. This is clearly a disturbed
mind-- Stephanie and Patricia aren't saying they got letters disagreeing
with them, they're getting hate letters threatening them. I'd say that's
pretty hard to miscontrue.
Needless to say, beign a mystery writer, it will be next december before I
stop thinking of the possibilities.....
DeMoNiKa
-> 4) Is it possible that some people have programs that do not list the
-> actual return e-mail address or that they have failed to check against the
-> routing header? Is it possible that a very computer-savvy person could
-> emulate my address somehow? Maybe the jerk took my name minus one 3 and
-> it just looks a lot like it?
It is very possible to send fake mail if you know how to do it.
(Telenetting to certain ports and using arcane SMP commands, to be
precise.) You can usually find out the origin of the message by viewing
headers. You may not be able to track down the username, but the domain
is pretty simple to find.
Hope it all works out for you...
Monika
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Rick Waugh
>Needless to say, beign a mystery writer, it will be next december before I
>stop thinking of the possibilities.....
>
>
>Katy3...@aol.com
Well! It's quite obvious: there are two of you! We have Doctor Katy, and Ms.
333333! (Divide the 3s in half, add the two halves together, and you
get....666!!! Why has this never struck me before!)
(Bach organ toccatas play in the background as we all peer into the dark
corners of our writing rooms, wondering what lies in the shadows...)
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Rick Waugh
rick_...@mindlink.bc.ca
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K.Est
There was an article in Time or Newsweek late last year about a Web
site which had closed down because the legal implications of what
they were doing had begun to scare them. The service offered was a
re-addresser: you could choose to have your commentary on the weather
seem to come from, say, th...@valhalla.org.
That was one website, but who's to say that there aren't a dozen more?
It's another way someone with little technical knowledge could fake
an email address, which, as others have pointed out, isn't that hard
to do if you have the skills.
Nicola
Anna Halbert
i dunno about the rest of you, but the mail reader i'm using (as with
several others i've seen) lets me go back and just up and change the
"from" in my preferences. i could presumably say i was anybody. seems
like a pretty shady thing to do, but not difficult at all. however, i
don't know what the full header information would look like; probably
revealing. if anyone has one of the ersatz katy-many-threes messages,
it might be worth looking at the expanded header info.
-a
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This writing business, pencils and whatnot. Over-rated if you ask me.
--Eeyore
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Smalljas
from the alt.revenge handbook:
>WARNING!! This [forging post] is illegal. If your mark ask your
>sysadmin, and he starts to look into it, then you're going to be
>discovered for sure. Everything you do on your system is
>probably audit filed, iow, they can trace back and see who did it.
>Even if you telnet to a foreign host,they will be able to trace
>it. Althou' they then have to do it through those foreign sysadms.
>Be careful, people has lost their account on less than this.
According to the FAQ it's impossible to get away with it (and they
ought to know). So contact AOL.
--
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Smalljas INTERNET:10057...@compuserve.com
"The soft pasting noises of the rebel billposters remind us of
Oklahoma, where everything is still the same" Donald B.
Thomas Disque
|> Needless to say, beign a mystery writer, it will be next december before I
|> stop thinking of the possibilities.....
|>
|>
|> Katy3...@aol.com
I noted from your posting that you are a mystery writer. I have an idea
for a story that, I feel, would be a new slant on the old kind of murder
mystery. Unfortunately, I don't read/write mysteries. My forte is
sci-fi/fantasy, so I can't do the subject justice.
Would you be interested in collaberating? I can provide the idea
and some of the basic plot framework, and you'd be responsible for
fleshing it out.
What do you think? My bio is below. If you're interested, please
send your bio.
Tom Disque
I have had several non-fiction credits (see attachment), and my first
fiction story to be published, "The Big Hunt", appeared in the October
'95 issue of Taler's Tales. "Death of the Undead" is scheduled to
appear in issue #2 of Little Green Men. Two other stories, "How to
Lose Friends and Influence Enemies" and "The Body and the Blood", will
appear in the spring (March '96) issue of Valhalla Fantasy and Science
Fiction.
Tom Disque
818 Northampton Drive
Cary, NC 27513
919 380-7732(H)
919 677-8000 ext. 7721(W)
Educational Background: B. S. with area(48 hours) in Chemistry and
major(32 hours) in Computer Science; certificate in basic electronics;
short course "Writing and Marketing the Short Story".
Employed as a software developer by SAS Institute.
Word counts, in parentheses, follow the article names below.
Published fiction:
"The Big Hunt"(4327), Taler's Tales, Fall 1995.
A couple of 'less than polically correct' hunters get bigger game than
they had bargained for.
Unpublished fiction:
Spell it Out(966): Jim discovers a book of spells in the school library
and decides to make the perfect girl.
Death of the Undead(4927): What happens when a vampire contracts AIDS
from one of his victims?
Robodog(5842): Sparks fly when Gladys' parents try to replace her
aging dog with a robot equivalent.
How to Lose Friends and Influence Enemies(6848): Eric, besieged by
bullies, discovers a genie in a ring that appears to be the answer to
all his problems. But all is not as it appears.
The Body and the Blood(12752): Participants in the study for the new
biofeedback wonder drug, Biobak, have suddenly become paranoiac.
The reason why is more significant than anyone realized at first.
Published nonfiction:
"Simple Compression Technique Works With Text & Graphics", The C User's
Journal, August 1988.
"8088 Assembly Language Programming Techniques", Dr. Dobb's Journal of
Software Tools, July 1987.
"Reliability Analysis with the TI-59 Calculator", Computers in
Mechanical Engineering, July 1987.
"Input Without Carriage Return/Line Feed", Creative Computing, December
1982.
"Extracting Polynomial Roots: A Pocketsize Shortcut", Computers in
Mechanical Engineering, August 1982.
Thomas Disque
In article <DLy8s...@unx.sas.com>, dis...@sauron.unx.sas.com (Thomas Disque) writes:
|>
|> In article <4dsckk$a...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, katy3...@aol.com (Katy333333) writes:
|>
|> |> Needless to say, beign a mystery writer, it will be next december before I
|> |> stop thinking of the possibilities.....
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> Katy3...@aol.com
|>
|> I noted from your posting that you are a mystery writer. I have an idea
|> for a story that, I feel, would be a new slant on the old kind of murder
|> mystery. Unfortunately, I don't read/write mysteries. My forte is
|> sci-fi/fantasy, so I can't do the subject justice.
|>
Apologies to all...I hit 'post' when I meant to hit 'reply'.
Tom Disque