Portrait of the Artist as an Old Man (tase crime alert)
John P David
Washington ---
"jimC" <jimc...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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--- somehow manages to arrogate to himself the cross-eyed and clueless
conceit to make a "demand" upon . . .
> John P David, who wrote:
>
> > drugs" of which he speaks were part of
> > the latter day decadence of the era not of it's "Flow
>
>
> Just shut up. That's your cheapest way out.
Ain't he just the veritable butt-feathers, Old Ostrich-Face, here?
So this bird has pulled his head up from his hole---again?
"jimC" <jimc...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> I added John [...] to my rarely used
> killfile filter and suddenly his new posts were out.
<snip>
> Since I won't
> see your response . . .
--
Other than problems in his killfile--what will be his excuse be this time?
What's Bush's excuse? Sharon is telling him to stick his "demands" where
the Lone Star of Texas don't shine--and damned rightly.
Where do people like this get off?
Huh?
Good thing I'm not in Sharon's boots. I'd have an answer for Bush Jr.'s
"demands". Yes, I'd tell him to take that 50 billion in foreign AIDS
disease of his, put a condom on it and stick it in his General Colon Powell.
As then, I would patiently remind him that he is not the King of the World,
and the very fact that he actually manages to imagine for himself such an
arrogance only means that he grew up shy of about a hundred good spankings.
That's what.
Long Live Sharon and may he continue to put it right in the arrogant,
spoiled, Rich Goy's eye by telling him, "On the day you pull out of
Afghanistan, schmuck, and your so-called "War on Terror" is over you
hypocritical schlemiel, come back and offer your suggestions to my Sovereign
Nation once again, just so long as you remember to say "Please".
--
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of one's inferiors. In the end, happily, it all adds up to
truth!." --JPDavid
jimC
> Good thing I'm not in Sharon's boots.
Well it would look odd, especially if he had them on.
Perhaps he could lend you another article of clothing. Are you a
panty sniffer? You aren't one of thoese people who make people
on the road keep a close eye on their stuff in motel washing
machines, are you? My neighbor told me of an incident where
he and his wife were travelling. Some brazen guy pretended to
have found what he thought was my neighbor's wife's bikini bottom
mixed up in his own laundry, and was visibly grossed out
when my neighbor told him it was *his* swimsuit.
--
jimC
The Official Crystal Cove Lunchtime Hikers Website
http://www.jimcolli92625.com is in abeyance with the same
old placeholder pictures.
John P David
--- was clowning around outside of his Ostrich hole crawl space again to no
apparent purpose or importance other than to shake a smelly tail-feather.
John P David
"Sock Puppets, Inc." <glkid6w...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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had nothing to add.
So, to take things from the smelly, personal plane to a more general level
of sophistication . . .
As to the use of killfiles . . .
There has finally arrived a day when posing like an ostrich with its head in
the sand is the strictly fashionable new look around Usenet--even if it is a
far cry from Jesse Ventura confronting the world head on, in his feathered
boa.
No, this is another thing altogether and it's quite the rage, I see, these
days, to be totally oblivious of what is going on about oneself, and it's
the latest thing in "consciousness raising" to hide one's head from all
facts, information, opinions, attitudes and personality types which are not
entirely in comportment with one's own views, ideas, life-style and taste.
In other words, if something or someone should appear to be in the least way
dissident, if the views of some other person come in radical dissent to your
own, if a person's attitude and lifestyle should be in the least way
dissonant to what sounds harmonious to you, then immediately plug your ears
and scream, peck a hole in the ground with your beak and bury your head.
Oh, that is essential, because all tastes, styles, attitudes and ideas that
are out of the mainstream are dangerous to your social status are they not?
Oh yes, and so you should not even so much as begin to entertain any of it,
lest you should in any way be in danger of changing to become, in the view
of the rank and file, a "troll" or a "kook", something the police force
refers to with great suspicion as an "individual."
Happily, as a "child of the 60's" I come from an entire generation of Trolls
and Kooks who thought being "kookie" was the coolest thing going. We had
great Troll Leaders like Abby Hoffman, Jerry Rubin and Paul Krassner who
created a nationwide anarchic anti-organization of "trolls" which were then
called "Yippies" whose entire interest was throwing a monkey wrench into the
works of every square's head.
I haven't changed. So, yes, I confess: I am both a dyed in the wool,
totally dedicated Troll and Kook--and mighty proud, I say, I'm mighty proud
to say it. An unrepentant Yippie Sixties Freak from the Git to the Gate.
You got trouble, my friends.
Right here in Cyber-City.
INDIVIDUALISM AS CRIMETHINK
Was it damn near criminal of me to use the word "scumbag" on a woman who had
insulted me with the "troll" label? So many of you would think, so used as
you are to smearing people with the "troll" stigma that you must therefore
inure yourselves to a consideration of the harm that is intended by that
label--which is always attended by the horrors of killfile ostracization.
What can be more chilling to a person's capacity to communicate on Usenet
than to be stuck with the "Troll" label? Nothing except the "kook" nuke
weapon. But again in order to do it, you must trivialize it in order to
defend it.
But lest any should think the "harm" and the "horrors" are in reality, as
subjectively experienced, anything near as harmful or horrible as what is by
killing force intended by such denunciation and ostracizing, then let us be
clear: no. It is nothing. The harm and horror is all objective in what it
does to the ethos and mythos of the cyber-culture, how it all affects the
minds of the gullible how place so much stock in such damned fool slogans,
labels and practices.
Again it is the objective *intent* that is horrible, not the subjective
effect which is only pathetic and laughable.
As to INTENT: This is a culture of fascism that did not even so much as
exist when I was in high school and college--the McCarthy Era was about over
by that time. But again the seriousness in the intent of the stigma label
and the trivializing of it go hand in hand or it cannot work, as it must in
order for Jew-Starring to lead to Holocaust.
Now look: I accord no more, nor any less politeness to women than I do to
men. So it must be in a culture that accords equality between the genders.
I am not stigmatized by the label "Woman-Hater" if I say that a certain man
is a "scumbag"--I mean how trivial does it get? Who would notice? But if I
say that a woman is a "scumbag", suddenly the cyberworld is filled with a
loud plonking sound.
And what is the sound of one ostrich beak biting the ground?
Many beaks all at once?
Why that sudden sound all around? Because I just committed a blasphemy!
Why is it a blasphemy? What indeed has gone so cuckoo in some heads that
some of you should find this to be tantamount to virtual rape, such a brutal
abuse of a woman's virtue, to call her "scumbag"? Did you forget that with
the feminist revolution that women have every right to be a scumbag as a man
does?
Had some, or even many of you ever before realized what a bunch of
hypocritical robots you had become to the dictatorial rule of a few neurotic
feminist fanatics on a big ego trip? Did you forget that these feminists
let farts just like the rest of us? Huh? Did you want to ignore that fact?
Did you? Well they do, I am here to tell you that there is not a feminist
alive on the planet that does not fart. Can you deal with that? Did you
forget that feminists get awfully smelly when they don't use deodorant, and
very hairy when they don't shave? Did you think they were all
manifestations of the Princess Goddess, Diana?
This has been one more visit of the Time Traveler to the Eloi.
Sock Puppets, Inc.
> "Sock Puppets, Inc." <glkid6w...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
> news:5f683553.02040...@posting.google.com...
>
> had nothing to add.
Projecting, once again, eh?
You are getting good at it, aren't you?
jimC
> all affects the minds of the gullible how place so much stock
Diagnosis: sleep-deprived 1960s hippie, rousted from from his slot
at an all-night cyber cafe.
cms
wrote:
>
>"Sock Puppets, Inc." <glkid6w...@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
>news:5f683553.02040...@posting.google.com...
>Happily, as a "child of the 60's" I come from an entire generation of Trolls
>and Kooks who thought being "kookie" was the coolest thing going. We had
>great Troll Leaders like Abby Hoffman, Jerry Rubin and Paul Krassner who
>created a nationwide anarchic anti-organization of "trolls" which were then
>called "Yippies" whose entire interest was throwing a monkey wrench into the
>works of every square's head.
>
>I haven't changed. So, yes, I confess: I am both a dyed in the wool,
>totally dedicated Troll and Kook--and mighty proud, I say, I'm mighty proud
>to say it. An unrepentant Yippie Sixties Freak from the Git to the Gate.
So, while your whole purpose is t throw a monkey wrech into the head
works of the squares, you feel insulted and demeaned when they are
annoyed and choose to ignore you. Poor you.
How would you know you were being a dissident if you weren't beng
ostracized? One cannot rebel against the conventions of a society and at
the same time hope to be embraced by its members ---- for if you are
then your rebellion is empty and without threat to that society's
foundation, like a fourteen year old girl who streaks her hair purple
with Manic Panic.
cms at the baitshop
Heather Henderson
>So, while your whole purpose is t throw a monkey wrech into the head
>works of the squares, you feel insulted and demeaned when they are
>annoyed and choose to ignore you. Poor you.
>
>How would you know you were being a dissident if you weren't beng
>ostracized? One cannot rebel against the conventions of a society and at
>the same time hope to be embraced by its members ---- for if you are
>then your rebellion is empty and without threat to that society's
>foundation, like a fourteen year old girl who streaks her hair purple
>with Manic Panic.
And then whines and flounces around in frustration because nobody
comments on it. That's basically what we've got here: the childish
demand for attention, any at all, even if it's negative. The only
difference is that our friend Jean Paul fortifies his whine with
bullying tough-guy lingo, trying to make up for his lack of balls.
Dawn Taylor
John P David wrote:
>INDIVIDUALISM AS CRIMETHINK
<snip of ostrich-related vitriol>
Interesting rant.
I'm reminded of Miss Manners' advice that one is not under any obligation to
answer one's telephone. Just because you own one, that doesn't mean you have to
pick it up every time it rings.
I offer that the same is true of Usenet. Just because someone posts to Usenet,
that doesn't mean that anyone else is obligated to download and/or read those
posts. And if someone is exceedingly irritating/offensive/combative, the
killfile is the most efficient method of passing over that person.
There are those who take issue with the Usenet convention of the *plonk*,
saying that it's far more mature to quietly killfile without a public
announcement of that fact. This may be true. It's far more satisfying, however,
to say, "Dear God but you're irritating" right before you slam the door closed
then to discreetly ease it shut.
Or so it occurs to me.
Dawn
John P David
"Heather Henderson" <hea...@scc.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:01:02 GMT, adaor...@hotmail.com (cms) wrote:
>
> >So, while your whole purpose is t throw a monkey wrech into the head
See any number of previous such monkey wrenches as wielded by Socrates,
Christ, Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Tom Paine, Napoleon, and Camille
Paglia---like prostitution, this sort of mechanic work is one of the World's
Oldest Professions, My Dear Girls, so just do try to get used to it.
>> you feel insulted and demeaned when they are
> >annoyed and choose to ignore you. Poor you.
Not overly, no. Indeed not in the least if I can keep myself up to the job,
because actually, when the Square Folk do ignore me, that's just fine--I
mean? Who needs such an utterly counterproductive pain in the ass. Still,
I learn to better recognize the challenge, or which is better, the
opportunity. When they get "annoyed" and nasty it is nothing but the fact of
being introduced to their own squareness which is such an awful annoyance to
them, to you, as it must be, just as your squareness has always been such a
horrible annoyance to me.
But the Square Frame of Mind is so gullible, such a prey to the stigmatizing
power of its own absurd icons in these two stereotypes of "Troll" and
"Kook", and your minds are so numbed by the force of their effect that when
I take them upon myself to show you what chimeras of nothingness they are,
what empty ghosts of prejudice and stereotype they are--what happens? Why,
all the more are you now blinded by them, as now any credibility I may have
had before (fat chance) is completely and utterly gone in your sight--as all
your most treasured stereotypical presumptions are confirmed right from the
horse's mouth. You were right all along! Huzzah! Get out the accordion
and play a polka, for now you may celebrate all the more the fact that now,
most especially now, you do not see the man, but only the costume of the
"Troll" or the "Kook".
Thus you remain asleep, all the more blind and numb in your arrogant
presumption that the status quo of your squareness should not be messed
with!
If I should take upon myself the mantles of "Troll" and "Kook" it is not to
a purpose of confirming your square stereotypes, nor is it to trivialize the
foulness of your intent in making use of such weapons--rather, it is to
demonstrate that aside from the evil you would do by your arrogant
intolerance of dissent, which is what's behind the objective, social intent
of your stigmatizing and stereotyping behavior with these "troll" and "kook"
Jew Stars, then I, like that mythical King of Denmark, take it upon myself
to wear it too, just to show you how the subjective effect on me is
laughable, absurd and painless, as I am, as I say, quite proud to wear
it--which as we now see is all the more an annoyance to you.-- if I don it
myself, your work is done.
So "poor me"? Not.
So funny.
> >
> >How would you know you were being a dissident if you weren't beng
> >ostracized?
Are you kidding? You've really got the cart before the horse there, Girlie.
All I need do to know my dissent, is turn on CNN, read some airhead post
coming in here from any one among a host of squares.
By this you have revealed how blind your perception of a cat like me really
is, as you really do think that my dissent can't be real, that it is all
just a game of mischief. You think that dissent is founded only by reaction
against a status quo? Get a clue. There is thought going on here, thought
which your own prejudices will not allow you to think. There are
convinctions and a moral order at work here that have been formed
independantly from the status quo, there are sentiments here, notions about
goodness, kindness and justice which are illuninating the spaces within my
head and heart which are insulted by clicking on a post from you, or by
turning on CNN.
When you smear the Troll Stigma on a person, or stitch the Kook Jew Star on
her breast, that person is dehumanized only in your sight--you have done
nothing yet to gas and burn the person who is really there. Didn't you even
know so much as that? Are your ears really that deafened by the taunts and
jeers of the herd around you that has your mind?
> > One cannot rebel against the conventions of a society and at
> >the same time hope to be embraced by its members ----
ROFLMAO!!
Listen to that. Can a full essence of squareness be expressed with more
lucidity than that?
See how rigid you are there in your square little box of societal
conventions, that you dare not even so much as consider the possibility of
being liberated from it, of changing your mind--of getting hip? See how
disastrously you have believed the truth of your own Icons of Stigma? And
now seeing that, you should (but won't) see the very character of the
blindness and numbness in people just like you that led to the holocaust.
You have made a god of the Conventions of Society, and a battalion of
knights of its goose-stepping "members". Piss on those members, piss on
each and every one until they should wake up and smell the piss to arise
from that bed of piss called "society" to become individuals, each a good
old fasioned Rebel King or Queen in his or her own right.
>> for if you are
> >then your rebellion is empty and without threat to that society's
> >foundation, like a fourteen year old girl who streaks her hair purple
> >with Manic Panic.
She is doing the best she can.
>
> And then whines and flounces around in frustration because nobody
> comments on it. That's basically what we've got here: the childish
> demand for attention, any at all, even if it's negative. The only
> difference is that our friend Jean Paul fortifies his whine with
> bullying tough-guy lingo, trying to make up for his lack of balls.
Should I be surprised to hear that sort of shop Gestapo talk coming from the
Accordion Dreams Girl--who is still running around in the shadow of Babe the
Blue Ox, among the trees with that bag over her head?
I am Super Jew, the Super Troll and Super Kook, who is ready and happy and
more than willing to put you all through the Woodchipper of Truth.
Selah
>
> Heather
> hea...@scc.net
> http://www.scc.net/~heather
--
JPBenDavid long_go...@nobodyfeelsanypain.com
John P David
misused and has now been replaced with the word in [...] below . . .
> > One cannot rebel against the conventions of a society and at
> >the same time hope to be embraced by its members ----
ROFLMAO!!
Listen to that. Can a full essence of squareness be expressed with more
lucidity?
See how rigid you are there in your square little cat-box of societal
conventions, that you dare not even so much as consider the possibility of
being liberated from it, of changing your mind--of getting hip? See how
disastrously you have believed the [lies] in your own Icons of Stigma? And
now seeing that, you should (but won't) see the very character of the
blindness and numbness in people just like you that leads to the holocaust.
You would do to me, what the Jew Star did to the Jew. You won't face that
extreme of evil in yourself. You trivialize it or you justify it to say
that I brought it on myself--but only because we disagree. See how
dangerous you are?
The intent behind words like "kook" and "troll" is to dehumanize by robbing
a person of all credibility, to make a mask of that face, to put a hook nose
and beady little eyes on it, to say of such a person that she is utterly
without value. That's what the "troll" Jew Star accomplishes. The "kook"
Jew Star puts the person on the train to chemical death in Auschwitz. The
intent of the hate behind a "kook" label has killing force and that is why
you use it. That is what you hope it will accomplish. You use it because you
know all about the Snake Pit and you know that people get destroyed in it.
You know that all it takes is a consensus of public opinion to get anyone
committed, so you know the police power behind a Gestapo word like "kook"
when that word is being used against folks who simply don't agree with you.
That is evil and there are no two ways about it. Why do you think a
kill-file is called a "kill-file"? The hatred of the intent is transparent.
The Killfile is your own personal little gas chamber. And the word "plonk"
means . . .
Sieg Heil!
Absurdly however, there's nothing more ridiculous than the sight of a bunch
of Big Birds trying to march the goose-step.
--
JPDavid long_go...@nobodyfeelsanypain.com
cms
wrote:
>
>"Heather Henderson" <hea...@scc.net> wrote in message
>news:3cb315e7...@news.scc.net...
>> On Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:01:02 GMT, adaor...@hotmail.com (cms) wrote:
>>
>> >So, while your whole purpose is t throw a monkey wrech into the head
>> >works of the squares . . .
>
>See any number of previous such monkey wrenches as wielded by Socrates,
>Christ, Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Tom Paine, Napoleon, and Camille
>Paglia---like prostitution, this sort of mechanic work is one of the World's
>Oldest Professions, My Dear Girls, so just do try to get used to it.
Go for it, man, I don't care, you dig? Have an opinion. Have it be
diffrent from mine. It's no skin off my nose and I ain't gonna fuck with
you.
>Thus you remain asleep, all the more blind and numb in your arrogant
>presumption that the status quo of your squareness should not be messed
>with!
That wasn't my point. Go a head and mess with my squareness, if you want
My point was that if people find you annoying, they aren't going to
listen to you. Since you claim your whole goal is to be annoying, you
can't very well complain when people choose to ignore you. You can
merely suggest it will be at thier peril. You are welcome to challange
my ideas or my presumptions, but the manner in which you do it may
determine whether you make me a convert or drive me further into
dogmatism. People don't react to insults by pondering how to improve
themselves.
>If I should take upon myself the mantles of "Troll" and "Kook" it is not to
>a purpose of confirming your square stereotypes, nor is it to trivialize the
>foulness of your intent in making use of such weapons--rather, it is to
>demonstrate that aside from the evil you would do by your arrogant
>intolerance of dissent,
Ay, there's the rub. Intolerance of dissent, huh? Nobody's trying to
prevent you from expressing your opion. They are choosing to ignore you.
That's very diffrent. I'm all for letting the KKK march down main street
if they want, but you can't force me to go watch the parade. You have
the right to free speech, not a guarenteed audience.
>> >How would you know you were being a dissident if you weren't beng
>> >ostracized?
>
>Are you kidding? You've really got the cart before the horse there, Girlie.
>All I need do to know my dissent, is turn on CNN, read some airhead post
>coming in here from any one among a host of squares.
Oh, really? Dissidence carries a price. To dissent is to reject and
rebel against the fundamental values of a given society --- Usenet,
American, r.a.b., Flat Earth. If you reject the finadmental values of a
society, you will be excluded from it. Ostracized.
>By this you have revealed how blind your perception of a cat like me really
>is, as you really do think that my dissent can't be real, that it is all
>just a game of mischief.
No, I think you're dead serious.
>You think that dissent is founded only by reaction
>against a status quo? Get a clue. There is thought going on here, thought
>which your own prejudices will not allow you to think. There are
>convinctions and a moral order at work here that have been formed
>independantly from the status quo, there are sentiments here, notions about
>goodness, kindness and justice which are illuninating the spaces within my
>head and heart which are insulted by clicking on a post from you, or by
>turning on CNN.
How nice for you. You have opinion, even maybe a philosophy, which is
different from mine. Woo hoo. Rock on, brother. So why should I listen
to you? Why should I change my mind? And if you don't care whether I
change my mind or not, why should I stand here and be insulted? Because
I'm supposed to find it broadening?
>When you smear the Troll Stigma on a person, or stitch the Kook Jew Star on
>her breast, that person is dehumanized only in your sight--you have done
>nothing yet to gas and burn the person who is really there. Didn't you even
>know so much as that? Are your ears really that deafened by the taunts and
>jeers of the herd around you that has your mind?
Oh, dear. Now I see your point. Your comparison of your travails to
those suffered by the Jews during the Holocaust has convinced me of the
depth of your suffering.
>> > One cannot rebel against the conventions of a society and at
>> >the same time hope to be embraced by its members ----
>
>ROFLMAO!!
>
>Listen to that. Can a full essence of squareness be expressed with more
>lucidity than that?
>
>See how rigid you are there in your square little box of societal
>conventions, that you dare not even so much as consider the possibility of
>being liberated from it, of changing your mind--of getting hip? See how
>disastrously you have believed the truth of your own Icons of Stigma? And
>now seeing that, you should (but won't) see the very character of the
>blindness and numbness in people just like you that led to the holocaust.
Sigh. My point was not that embracing the conventions of a society is
always desirable. My point was that rejecting those values and at the
same time trying to get people who accept them to treat you with respect
is pretty much a mutaly exclusive proposition. Ostracism is the price of
dissent. Or better say ostracism is the price of dangerous dissent, the
price of having and living according to truly revolutionary ideals.
Dissent without cost is hollow.
cms
tejas
Heather Henderson
wrote:
>I am Super Jew, the Super Troll and Super Kook, who is ready and happy and
>more than willing to put you all through the Woodchipper of Truth.
Yeah, and you know what happened to Peter Stormare's character in
"Fargo". But frankly, you remind me more of Steve Buscemi.
Heather Gunderson
hea...@scc.net
http://www.scc.net/~heather
Alan Brooks
John P David wrote:
<word salad snipped>
> The intent behind words like "kook" and "troll" is to dehumanize by robbing
> a person of all credibility
<more word salad snipped>
Sometimes. Other times it's just pointing out that you don't have any,
Jerv, as demonstrated by your repeated and desperate cross-posting for
attention.
Alan Brooks
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A schmuck with an Underwood
-- Holy 1998, Batman, he's back and he still lack credibility.
Dawn Taylor
John P David wrote:
> "Heather Henderson" <hea...@scc.net> wrote in message
> news:3cb315e7...@news.scc.net...
> > On Tue, 09 Apr 2002 16:01:02 GMT, adaor...@hotmail.com (cms) wrote:
> >
> > >So, while your whole purpose is t throw a monkey wrech into the head
> > >works of the squares . . .
>
> See any number of previous such monkey wrenches as wielded by Socrates,
> Christ, Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Tom Paine, Napoleon, and Camille
> Paglia---
They posted to Usenet, too?
Who knew.
Dawn
William Penrose
wrote:
>On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:18:53 -0500, "John P David" <dadd...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I am Super Jew, the Super Troll and Super Kook, who is ready and happy and
>>more than willing to put you all through the Woodchipper of Truth.
>
>Yeah, and you know what happened to Peter Stormare's character in
>"Fargo".
Stan, I'm serving notice that I'm going to steal the expression 'The
Woodchipper of Truth.'
It's too good not to steal.
Super Jew is hard to read because he can't control his temper, and I
read very little of him, but hidden in his stuff are occasional blips
of pure genius.
Bill Penrose (but then, Wagner was a genius, too)
Jeff Inman
> John P David wrote:
> > The intent behind words like "kook" and "troll" is to dehumanize by robbing
> > a person of all credibility
>
> Jerv, as demonstrated by your repeated and desperate cross-posting for
> attention.
>
> Alan Brooks
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> A schmuck with an Underwood
>
Ha! It's amazing how much credibility he doesn't have.
John P David
"Jeff Inman" <jeff...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> > -- Holy 1998, Batman, he's back and he still lack[s] credibility.
>
> Ha! It's amazing how much credibility he doesn't have.
Note the form of this. What is it?
You will know it, for one thing, by the tone of smugness. It is very smug.
Indeed, how very, very smug it is, and why?
Well! What is the very essence of smugness other than two men gossiping
about another man? You simply can't do that without being smug.
And when you are smug, you sound smug, and as you sound so smug, it is
simply impossible to sound credible.
So, it appears that the club of those who are found lacking in credibility
is not in the least way real fancy and exclusive, is it? I'd venture to say
that it's about as hard to get into as the YMCA. As to the Club of Those
Who are Smug, it's much easier--all you need to get in is a complete lack of
taste and a birth certificate.
But would a Library Card do?
Not at all. That would be counterproductive.
John P David
"Don Tuite" <don_...@REMOVETHIShotlink.com> wrote in message
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> On 9 Apr 2002 21:05:34 GMT, j...@radiDELMEx.net wrote:
>
> >In rec.arts.books John P David <dadd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> See any number of previous such monkey wrenches as wielded by Socrates,
> >> Christ, Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Tom Paine, Napoleon, and Camille
> >> Paglia
> >
>
> There's a reason there's no canonical list of famous crackpots . . . .
Poor Ted. Such a sad case. There he was, headed for a brilliant career in
math, and then all of a sudden he is like Clark Kent who steps into a phone
booth, only to come back out in a silly suit with a big U on his chest, all
transformed into a sort of Super Environmentalist Yasser Arafat. God only
knows what could have happened to the poor boy's mind. One day he's walking
around with nothing but Fermat's Lost Theorem in his head, and the
next---Shazaam! He's up out of bed blithering "Save the trees! Save the
trees!" And before you know he's right up in the trees with the birds and
the bees building bombs specifically designed and sent forth to just save
the piss out of those dog-gone trees.
Well, it's a pity the way so many fine geniuses end up that way, up in the
trees whistling away with the birds and the bees buzzing about in their
bonnets. It's just a fact that contemporary society is not a very genius
friendly environment. Some of these guys are very sensitive chaps who just
don't hold up well under the force of a lot of jock-strap snapping and the
like from the majority of brain-dead blockheads in this great locker room of
life. To a genius all that sort of thing just seems so abysmally stupid and
unnecessary that they just never learn to cope with it in a humorous and
sporting way.
Take a fine genius like Billy the Kid, for example. Granted, he was, for a
genius, a pretty funny looking guy, kind of skinny and little, just the sort
of fellow who ends up being the target for a lot of that jock-strap snapping
from the fat, overgrown, block-headed bullies who are always looking for a
chance to show how tough they are by taking advantage of the weight they
hold over the little guy. Makes 'em look real tough to another blockhead to
act like that, and since the great majority are blockheads like that, then
none of them know any different, which tends to make life pretty rough on
the little guys like Billy the Kid to have to walk among such a
butt-backward society of men in which the rankest cowardice is looked upon
as courage?
No damn wonder they always got their caps on backward these days. Sheesh.
It just goes to show you.
Well, one day after Billy was just totally fed up to the teeth at last with
the constant need of having to kick those big, fat, overgrown butts from one
end of the bar to the other all the time, day in, day out, him being the
little guy for whom this necessity arose ten times more often than for
anybody else, well sir--then finally all of a sudden, he just thought to
himself, "Why don't I just shoot those useless, brainless blockheads dead,
and in that way save myself a lot of very boring and repetitive trouble?"
Yes, and so that's what Billy the Kid did, he just started blowing those
fat-butt, blowhard, block-head, bullying bastards away, for nothing more
serious than just looking at him kind of funny. Billy gained quite a
reputation for himself in this way, not only around Lincoln County and New
Mexico, but throughout the entire United States before he was done in by Pat
Garrett in that terrible sneaking way, in the dark and the dead of night,
right in the house of Billy's Mexican girl-friend. But up to that fateful
night, there wasn't a man alive who didn't know better than to keep his
conversation downright cordial and polite when he should find himself in the
august and infamous company of Billy the Kid, as all those fat-butt,
overgrown, bullying blockhead bastards finally got the message that Billy
had done what was necessary to even up the odds so far as that sad little
hand which Nature had dealt him--and so, they by God damned well better try
to be nice, friendly, and real gentle with that little tyke known as "Billy
the Kid."
It was a work of genius, the whole image he'd created for himself, what with
one six-gun at his side, one in his belt and a rifle in hand, and he should
have won a Nobel Prize just for that one picture he let them take of him,
standing there in his top-hat and boots, bearing that formidable arsenal out
in front of the Barber Shop. Hell, had there been one of those "Peace"
prizes at the time, it would have gone to Billy for sure on account of all
the peace he'd caused to come into being anywhere within a couple hundred
yards of him, wherever he walked, whether it was in Tombstone, Silver City
or riding the Alto Plano of Southern New Mexico.
But there just wasn't one of those prizes available just yet, so, history
simply has to be content with the Legend of Billy the Kid as it occupies
just about the Numero Uno spot in the annals of U.S. Western Folklore. And
that's good enough--better maybe. Probably everything ever written about
him up to and including this is just a big pack of damned lies, but how
often is that the case for the Nobel Prize? Look at Arafat.
* * * * *
Poor Ted. Well, all I can say is that he was no Billy the Kid, who at least
had the gumption to confront his enemies face to face. So, I don't know how
smart it is to be lumping the name of Ted K. in with Socrates, Christ,
Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Tom Paine, Napoleon, and Camille Paglia. And then be
turning around to talk about a "canonical list of famous crackpots"?
Nope. Doesn't seem right. In fact, I'd venture to say there's no damn
similarity at all since all those names I listed up there are right down to
the last one, people like Billy the Kid with the gumption to face their
detractors head on and fire back with both barrels blazing--a thing I rather
enjoy doing (virtually speaking) my own damnself, more and more these days.
Kind of helps to keep a person from going crazy when you finally start to
get the hang of it.
I'd venture to say however that if either of those two respondents up there,
either "jfw" or "don tuite" was to repeat that, make that comparison between
Ted K. and all those folks up there, and do it right to Camille's face, you
can bet your last lucky silver dollar, that while they'd be sure to get
clean away with it in the face of Christ or Socrates--but let them try it
with Camille? Huh? She lost a teaching position at a fancy ivy league
girl's school over a thing like that--and you might as well know it wasn't
Camille that went away with the black eye--it was that person who talked to
her so disrespectfully like that.
--
JPDavid long_go...@nobodyfeelsanypain.com
John P David
<j...@radiDELMEx.net> wrote in message news:a94nb9$6sb$3...@news1.Radix.Net...
> In rec.arts.books John P David <dadd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > She lost a teaching position at a fancy ivy league
> > girl's school over a thing like that--and you might as well know it
wasn't
> > Camille that went away with the black eye--it was that person who talked
to
> > her so disrespectfully like that.
>
What myopic rot! How dare you? Say! I do dare you to say that to her
face. You'll go away looking like Rocky Raccoon.
> Not the sort your
> average University wants on its payroll, ivy or otherwise.
And what are you saying by that? Did you hear yourself? You would justify
such a Stalinist regime of educational repression? For the life of me I
can't imagine how a person reasonably educated to the meaning of liberty and
academic freedom could even begin to speak after such a fashion.
I am astounded.
What on earth has gone wrong in these people's heads?
Not the "sort"? The schtupping *sort*??? I'll tell *you* what "sort" *The
Paglia* is, she is the sort of person whose insight into culture is subtle,
far and away beyond the norm, vast and wide-ranging as her knowledge of
popular philosophy, art, world literature, the Classics and Freud is second
to none *in* the Hunanities.
That's the sort she is, and on the day I should see a woman coming around
these newsgroups with even a tenth of the moxy in that modern day Lady
Godiva, I will take every steak in my freezer out and burn it on the
backyard B.B.Q. as an offering in gratitude to Zeus for having permitted one
more incarnation of Athena to leap from his brow fully formed into the
world.
>
> Billy the Kid was a dimestore thug.
Well. What does that say? Let's see if I can do that . . .
George Bush is a dimestore thug.
Harold Bloom is a dimestore thug.
Andrea Dworkin is a dimestore thug.
But who shall write their legends?