The Sixth Sense
FLICKER575
classy film. I'm in awe of the writer/director. Great concept and great
execution.
Bianca
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FLICKER575
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Thanks; very nice review. I'm not surprised at your comments about his new
movie's ending; Sixth Sense's was a one in a million.
After seeing Sixth Sense, I don't think I'll ever be able to sit through slop
like "The Matrix" again.
Bianca
TonyBoy74
Rip off of Ambrose Bierce's (sp?) "An occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" the
corresponding (sorta) Twilight Zone episode and the much better movie Jacob's
Ladder written by Bruce Joel Rubin.
Sixth Sense was good but not "all that" by any means.
Peace,
Tony B.
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> Sorry, but I just saw it the other day for the first time. What a
terrific,
> classy film. I'm in awe of the writer/director. Great concept and great
> execution.
The concept was like Ghost or Jacob's Ladder. The story and it's metaphysics
were full of so many holes. That's only to be expected, but Ghost and
Jacob's did not have those holes. What makes Sixth Sense good (and I do like
it a lot, rented it the other night) is the direction, the dialogue (which
is thoughtful) and very worthy of mention, the acting. Willis is charasmatic
as ever and Osmond is a great child actor. He was particularly suited to
that kind of role. He reminds me of the good old days when guys like Steven
Spielberg had a good eye for child talent. Most of the kids these days just
look like brats whose parents pushed them into trying to become rich and
famous. The MacCulkin Syndrome. Once Steven starts to make some movies for a
younger audience again then there will be a better selection of child
talent. It seems as I've gotten older, Steven has made films for an older
audience. I'd love to see him wave his magic for a younger generation again.
They need good influences.
FLICKER575
>corresponding (sorta) Twilight Zone episode and the much better movie Jacob's
>Ladder written by Bruce Joel Rubin.
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I haven't seen any of the above, so here in my little world it was "all that."
It's not so much the concept of the ending itself that I admire, it's just the
way it fit to the film. I watched the movie thinking it was about a little boy
with a problem, but suddenly at the end it turned out the movie was really
about Bruce Willis's character. Usually when a film has a swing point like
this it's disaster; this one worked seamlessly.
And also loved the relationship between the boy and his mother. Their scene at
the end almost made the film for me. Her part was small, but I'd say it was
one of the better ones for women in Hollywood these days.
I know it's not hip to agree with the critics and mass audiences but I just
love this writer's style. Maybe he "ripped off" concept but his execution
seems unique to me.
But now that you mention Jacob's Ladder, I am definitely going to look for it.
Bianca
FLICKER575
>were full of so many holes. That's only to be expected, but Ghost and
>Jacob's did not have those holes. What makes Sixth Sense good (and I do like
>it a lot, rented it the other night) is the direction, the dialogue (which
>is thoughtful) and very worthy of mention, the acting. Willis is charasmatic
>as ever and Osmond is a great child actor.
I think you've really hit the nail on the head. The acting was wonderful.
Thoughtful dialogue -- definitely. Some great touches, like Osmond calling
Willis on using the "s" word. There was nothing whiney about Osmond; he did a
terrific job. Many scenes, had they been directed differently, would have been
ordinary and irritating but they (along with the characters) were presented
perfectly.
Bianca
ADR
> I think you've really hit the nail on the head.
U shouldn't say such things when I've been downing whisky and coke all
night. You guys and your caffeine!
Steven J. Weller
that the kid was talking freely to Bruce Willis' character LONG before
he was talking ot any of the other ghosts. Most of them didn't seem to
be really threatening him, and Dr. Swillus had that big ole' bloodstain
on his back, so why didn't the kid run in terror from him? Are we
supposed to believe that the kid somehow wasn't aware that Dr. Bruce
was dead?
--
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Evidence to the Contrary
Steven
Steven J. Weller
flick...@aol.comQQQ (FLICKER575) writes:
> But now that you mention Jacob's Ladder, I am definitely going to look for it.
While you're at the video store, rent Stir of Echos. Similar
territory, but much better writing (esp. from a character standpoint).
Based on the novel by Richard Matheson. No twist ending, but
interesting characters who go through actual changes. Nice piece of
work.
Brevity
>Among the other things that bugged me about The 6th Sense was the fact
>that the kid was talking freely to Bruce Willis' character LONG before
>he was talking ot any of the other ghosts. Most of them didn't seem to
>be really threatening him, and Dr. Swillus had that big ole' bloodstain
>on his back, so why didn't the kid run in terror from him? Are we
>supposed to believe that the kid somehow wasn't aware that Dr. Bruce
>was dead?
>
>--
>Life Continues, Despite
>Evidence to the Contrary
>
>Steven
Steven,
Part of the brilliance of the film, is that all such details were
dealt with as part of the story. You may have missed it, but for me,
it was a very satisfying and surprising, and very well put together
bit of drama. On the DVD Shaymalan and the producer explain their
approach to the material, and how that approach was reflected
specifically in some of the scenes. But all the answers really are
right there, in the film, clear as day. . .with just a bit o' trickery
here and there, but nothing that made me feel cheated.
Best,
Bob Stone
Associate Editor
Hollywood Scriptwriter
http://www.hollywoodscriptwriter.com
(remove the x to reply via email)
Brevity
>But now that you mention Jacob's Ladder, I am definitely going to look for it.
>
>Bianca
I think the comparison to "Occurrence At Owl Creek Bridge" is just a
wee bit of a stretch. If you want to you can say it is a rip off of
any life after death film or story ever told. In that case, no story
is completely new, no matter what it is about. One of the things I
"hate" about Bill Martell is that no matter what film you say you
thought was original, he will come up immediately with five films,
from three different counties, in various genres that contained
elements that I enjoyed in the film I had mentioned. (Actually, of
course, it's his encylopedic knowledge of film that makes me like the
big lug.)
LA...@la.com
The Matrix is about a hundred times better than Sixth Sense in my
opinion. The script was a LOT tighter as was the direction.
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>Bianca
LA...@la.com
>And also loved the relationship between the boy and his mother. Their scene at
>the end almost made the film for me. Her part was small, but I'd say it was
>one of the better ones for women in Hollywood these days.
Too bad Toni Colette ripped it to shreds...
LA...@la.com
>While you're at the video store, rent Stir of Echos. Similar
>territory, but much better writing (esp. from a character standpoint).
>Based on the novel by Richard Matheson. No twist ending, but
>interesting characters who go through actual changes. Nice piece of
>work.
Are you trying to say that David Koep actually managed not to massacre
something he adapted?!!!???!!? I'm shocked!!!!
BrickRage
I believe I created a bit of a stir on this ng, at least among its fans, when
the video came out. I'll repeat the essence of my reaction to Sixth Sense:
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I thought it was just my mood at the time.
I was wrong.
Everything about it still sucks.
Even thinking about it, for me, sucks.
Even trying my damnedest to make an informed, intelligent post about it puts me
in the throes of ennui.
And *that* sucks too.
Actually I caught Jacob's Ladder recently on one of the decent TV cable free
movie channels. Hadn't seen it in years. I'm neither in love with Adrian Lyne
nor Mr. Rubin's work. But this one didn't do what Sixth Sense did.
It didn't suck.
Nesci
Garden pix? On set pix of "Shoot"? I have some up at
http://www.photoloft.com/allalbums.asp?s=plft&u=400617
Steven J. Weller
xabr...@juno.com (Brevity) writes:
> Part of the brilliance of the film, is that all such details were
> dealt with as part of the story. You may have missed it, but for me,
> it was a very satisfying and surprising, and very well put together
> bit of drama. On the DVD Shaymalan and the producer explain their
> approach to the material, and how that approach was reflected
> specifically in some of the scenes. But all the answers really are
> right there, in the film, clear as day. . .with just a bit o' trickery
> here and there, but nothing that made me feel cheated.
I saw the film in the theatre, and had already figured out the twist
before I ever got into the auditorium. I've since seen it on video,
including the little explaination at the end (interviews, etc). Most
of it was pretty obvious, but I don't remember anyone ever explaining
that one part - why the kid ran in terror from every ghost in the film,
except for the Doctor.
Either he knew the doctor was a ghost (but for some reason didn't feel
the need to run in fear from him), or he didn't know the doctor was a
ghost (and so had no reason to be afraid).
If it's the former, it's a plot hole, and a substantial one. He's
terrified of the little girl with the vomit on her chin (not exactly a
threatening image) and scared shitless of the friendly teenager with
the back of his head missing, but when it commes to the dead shrink
with the sizable bloodstain on his back, he's ready to pal around.
Even takes Dr. Death's advice to start chatting with the other ghosts,
of whom he's deathly afraid. What made the good doctor different from
all of the other deluded ghosts the kid sees everywhere he looks?
If it's the latter, then the kid's an idiot. Here's a guy who no one
else can see, wearing the same clothes every day, with a huge
bloodstain on his back, and he somehow hasn't figured out that this is
another ghost?
Renemdere Reibreoche
in an interview, that's why he's running away at the beginning. To me
as to why he trusted Malcolm and not the other ghosts is that the church
was a symbol of safety, as said so in the film, and the kid wasn't
comfortable with Malcolm UNTIL he was safe in the church-that's why
Malcolm immediately starts the "people used to hide out in churches"
conversation to point that out. THEN they managed a decent conversation
with each other. As for the blood stain argument-HE WAS WEARING A
TRENCH COAT OVER IT!!!
Great movie btw. Though did anybody find the scene where he was talking
to Malcolm about his dad leaving for Pittsburgh (with him behind the
couch) necessary at all? It wasn't that good plus the exposition in it
has already been established. Cutting it out would have helped those
people who bitched saying it took too long for him to say "I see dead
people"
And anybody explain please the Matrix to me. I didn't think it was
great at all. I didn't even understand the ending. What the hell
happened. To me it just seemed like a cool concept that was taken
overboard.
Brevity
<much snippiocity for clarification>
>If it's the latter, then the kid's an idiot. Here's a guy who no one
>else can see, wearing the same clothes every day, with a huge
>bloodstain on his back, and he somehow hasn't figured out that this is
>another ghost?
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>--
>Life Continues, Despite
>Evidence to the Contrary
>
>Steven
Well, it is the latter, that the kid did not know that Willis was a
ghost. Neither we, nor the kid, ever see the blood stain. Even we
are fooled into thinking others see Willis, when he is stitting with
the kid's mother when he comes home, or in the restaurant scene in
which his wife seems to speak to him. When you are walking down the
street talking with someone who stops and notices you or him? Willis
remained because he needed Cole's help, and Cole needed his. After
they helped each other, Willis realizes his condition, and can move
on. Cole has established a bond with his mother that wasn't there
before. He was able to admit, first to the doctor, and then to his
mother that . . .well, you know the line. Willis needed tro help
this boy, as a way of getting past his earlier failure with the man
who shot him.
And if you never get it, that's cool. I never loved "E.T." the way
most everyone else did, yet somehow life, as you say, continues.
ADR
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> The kid does know he's dead right from the start, as Shyamalan said so
> in an interview, that's why he's running away at the beginning.
But he didn't actually see Malcolm at the beginning. He doesn't notice him
until they get to church. It's the other holes that nag. Is the Willis
character living a 24 hour day or does he only exist in several moments of
time? For example, has he eaten anything since he was shot? Has he slept in
the same bed with his wife? When he goes to Coles house or the school or the
hospital, who does he call or who informs him? Does he make appointments
with Cole's mother? Is Malcolm a poltergeist? He must be opening the front
door to his house? What about the cellar door whose handle he keeps shaking?
What about when he is downstairs turning the pages of a Latin dictionary and
writing notes? How come he can do that but not write a letter of apology to
his wife? The dead are always meant to be wearing the same clothing they
died in. That's true for Willis for the most part but he is wearing a
tracksuit when he visits Cole at the hospital. HOw often does he change his
clothes? Can he go through walls yet?
Anyway, I'm supposed to be a rational person but I have to admit that I
related to the movie because I was that kid when I was young. I was also
experiencing such things. Twice in my life I witnessed 'ghosts'. How do I
scientifically explain that? I saw my grandfather peering in through my
grandmother's window. He died before I was born. But there he was and he
spoke to me. I was 4, I didn't know who he was until I saw photos of him.
The house we lived in for the better part of the last 18 years was no doubt
haunted. We didn't know by who at the time. I could constantly feel someone
giving me a cold look. The hairs on my neck and arms would be constantly
standing and I was so scared to go to the toilet in the garden. The ghost
would knock on the door at night, blow in my ear while I tried to sleep and
we could hear him pacing the landing every single night. My father's
business money would disappear which caused great trouble. Then one morning
when I woke up I saw a shadow cast against the wall of a tall man hanging on
the landing. I couldn't believe what I was looking at and just cringed. I
looked at the landing, nothing was there. I looked back at the wall and the
sunlight coming in through the window near the landing was still casting a
shadow of a hanged man. Years later a woman who owns the liquer store down
the road told me that a man had hung himself two years after living a
depressed life since his wife died. I found the rope he hung himself with in
the attic. We burned it. But why did he bother me so much when I was young?
The activity ended either when I was blamed for stealing my dad's money and
I shouted out at the 'ghost' or shortly after when we redecorated the house.
The message seems to have gotten to it. He was dead and this was not his
house anymore.
Carnak
wrote:
>Among the other things that bugged me about The 6th Sense was the fact
>that the kid was talking freely to Bruce Willis' character LONG before
>he was talking ot any of the other ghosts. Most of them didn't seem to
>be really threatening him, and Dr. Swillus had that big ole' bloodstain
>on his back, so why didn't the kid run in terror from him? Are we
>supposed to believe that the kid somehow wasn't aware that Dr. Bruce
>was dead?
>
>--
>Life Continues, Despite
>Evidence to the Contrary
>
>Steven
__________________________________
I read the script first and liked the ending, but not after
seeing the film. By investing so much in that ending, the story loses
a major thing---the real relationship Willis would have with his wife
if he wasn't dead. Why not tell the story straight? Willis recovers
from his gunshot wound, becomes obsessed with helping this kid, his
wife gets extremely estranged, he almost loses her but the kid works
his miracles, the marriage survives and everybody dies happily ever
after. It's almost the same movie.
Carnak.
FLICKER575
>>that the kid was talking freely to Bruce Willis' character LONG before
>>he was talking ot any of the other ghosts. Most of them didn't seem to
>>be really threatening him, and Dr. Swillus had that big ole' bloodstain
>>on his back, so why didn't the kid run in terror from him? Are we
>>supposed to believe that the kid somehow wasn't aware that Dr. Bruce
>>was dead?
I think Cole was aware Dr. Bruce was dead. I found Cole to be painfully
reluctant to deal with the doc at the beginnning. Slowly he became more
comfortable. After all, the doc was a child psychologist and it makes sense
that he would be able to communicate with the boy. And as someone mentioned,
doc's bloodstain was on his back, covered by the trenchcoat most of the time.
Dr. Bruce's ghost didn't appear to Cole in the middle of the night while he was
trying to sleep. Most of the ghosts that spooked Cole did just that. Also,
Cole mentioned his grandmother occasionally came to see him. I doubt he was
petrified of her either.
Bianca
FLICKER575
>all of the other deluded ghosts the kid sees everywhere he looks?
He's a child psychologist; it's his nature to try to help Cole. The other
ghosts were looking for help of their own. Of course, so was the doctor but he
didn't realize it.
Most of the ghosts that freaked Cole out showed up at night, in his room. Who
wouldn't be more freaked at night? Poor Cole probably got no sleep.
Bianca
FLICKER575
>character living a 24 hour day or does he only exist in several moments of
>time? For example, has he eaten anything since he was shot? Has he slept in
>the same bed with his wife? When he goes to Coles house or the school or the
>hospital, who does he call or who informs him? Does he make appointments
>with Cole's mother?
These things bothered me too. Who put him on Cole's case? And how can you
live that long with a person (his wife) and not realize she can't see you? I
have to assume he wasn't deadwalking around 24/7.
Bianca
Chris Bateman
to new locations, don't notice inconsistencies and it seems
totally natural, and you don't know your dreaming.
A plot hole I noticed was the little poisoned girl knew she
was dead, and wanted Cole to help her get her step-mother
found out. If she didn't know she was dead she would just
stood there playing with her puppet show, puking up all
over.
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>
> >Among the other things that bugged me about The 6th Sense
was the fact
> >that the kid was talking freely to Bruce Willis'
character LONG before
> >he was talking ot any of the other ghosts. Most of them
didn't seem to
> >be really threatening him, and Dr. Swillus had that big
ole' bloodstain
> >on his back, so why didn't the kid run in terror from
him? Are we
> >supposed to believe that the kid somehow wasn't aware
that Dr. Bruce
> >was dead?
> >
Did we see the blood before he finds out, or don't we see
him from the back, or is it just not there?
Renemdere Reibreoche
>> the beginning.
Well according to Shyamalan, he DID.
>>He doesn't notice him until they get to
>> church. It's the other holes that nag. Is
>> the Willis character living a 24 hour
>> day or does he only exist in several
>> moments of time? For example, has he
>> eaten anything since he was shot? Has
>> he slept in the same bed with his wife?
>> When he goes to Coles house or the
>> school or the hospital, who does he
>> call or who informs him? Does he
>> make appointments with Cole's
>> mother? Is Malcolm a poltergeist? He
>> must be opening the front door to his
>> house? What about the cellar door
>> whose handle he keeps shaking? What
>> about when he is downstairs turning
>> the pages of a Latin dictionary and
>> writing notes? How come he can do
>> that but not write a letter of apology to
>> his wife? The dead are always meant
>> to be wearing the same clothing they
>> died in. That's true for Willis for the
>> most part but he is wearing a tracksuit
>> when he visits Cole at the hospital.
>> HOw often does he change his
>> clothes? Can he go through walls yet?
Just a movie...just a movie...say it...just a movie
They see what they want to see...
Steven J. Weller
"Chris Bateman" <chris@_nospam_screenplays.fsnet.co.uk> writes:
> A plot hole I noticed was the little poisoned girl knew she
> was dead, and wanted Cole to help her get her step-mother
> found out. If she didn't know she was dead she would just
> stood there playing with her puppet show, puking up all
> over.
That one bugged me a little too, but it was really a reflection of a
larger inconsistancy. The dead only see what they want to see, and
they don't know they're dead (according to the kid). And yet the
suicide in the kitchen shows him the slashes on her wrists and screams
'See? You can't hurt me anyore!' or something to that effect. And the
trio on the gallows - did they also not realize they were dead?
Steven J. Weller
xabr...@juno.com (Brevity) writes:
> >If it's the latter, then the kid's an idiot. Here's a guy who no one
> >else can see, wearing the same clothes every day, with a huge
> >bloodstain on his back, and he somehow hasn't figured out that this is
> >another ghost?
>
> Well, it is the latter, that the kid did not know that Willis was a
> ghost.
Interesting.
M. Night, in the video release's documentary, says exactly the opposite
- the kid DID know, from the very beginning.
> Neither we, nor the kid, ever see the blood stain.
We don't, but what evidence do you have that the kid doesn't? He sees
everybody else's wounds, and Willis doesn't wear the trenchcoat through
the whole film. Why wouldn't he see it?
> Even we
> are fooled into thinking others see Willis, when he is stitting with
> the kid's mother when he comes home, or in the restaurant scene in
> which his wife seems to speak to him.
Again, WE are (or at least, YOU were), but we were only seeing a small
fraction of what happened in the kid's life, from the POV of Dr. Bruce.
What we don't see is the rest of the kid's experience after (say) Dr.
Bruce leaves his living room, when mom is going to make him the
triangle pancakes. You might not notice a kid talking to himself if
you were just passing him on the street, but if he's your son and
you're both in your own home, you're either going to be aware that
there was just a psychologist in your living room, or you're going to
be reasonably certain that there wasn't.
Sure, Dr. Bruce doesn't know he's dead, but according to the
writer/director (and he aught to know), the kid does. So it's still a
bit of a hole for me, as to why the kid who was deathly afraid of the
ghosts that weren't actually threatening him, didn't know they were
even dead, and only saw what they wanted to see, decided it was okay to
have a nice chat with one of them, but not the others. If the church
was supposed to be his sanctuary, and a ghost walked right in and sat
down next to him, it seems an odd leap for the kid to assume that this
must mean that the church is STILL his sanctuary (he still kept all of
his religious icons, and even swiped another as he left the first
meeting with Dr. Bruce), but that this one ghost must be okay.
> And if you never get it, that's cool. I never loved "E.T." the way
> most everyone else did, yet somehow life, as you say, continues.
Wow, Brevity - condescending much? I think I actually DID 'get it' -
perhaps moreso than you (after all, you were 180 degres wrong on the
question of whether the kid knew the doc was dead, right?). I just saw
(and still see) some holes in the plot, and found the characterizations
to be somewhat monotone.
And, it was really, really slow, but that might be because I'd already
figured out the twist before I saw the thing.
Steven J. Weller
> Did we see the blood before he finds out, or don't we see
> him from the back, or is it just not there?
We didn't see, but then again the kid wasn't watching the movie; he was
there in the environment. The movie plays with the audience's
perceptiond for the twist ending, but how long do you think you could
spend in a room with someone, waking around, etc, who had a huge
bloodstain on their back, and never see it? He didn't wear the
trenchcoat all of the time, especially indoors.
Plus, the writer/director says that the kid knew Dr. Bruce was a ghost
from the get-go, so it's moot.
Brevity
>In article <397d4502...@news.earthlink.net>
>xabr...@juno.com (Brevity) writes:
>
>> >If it's the latter, then the kid's an idiot. Here's a guy who no one
>> >else can see, wearing the same clothes every day, with a huge
>> >bloodstain on his back, and he somehow hasn't figured out that this is
>> >another ghost?
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>> Well, it is the latter, that the kid did not know that Willis was a
>> ghost.
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>Interesting.
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>M. Night, in the video release's documentary, says exactly the opposite
>- the kid DID know, from the very beginning.
Well, then, M. Night is simply incorrect. <g>
>> Neither we, nor the kid, ever see the blood stain.
>
>We don't, but what evidence do you have that the kid doesn't? He sees
>everybody else's wounds, and Willis doesn't wear the trenchcoat through
>the whole film. Why wouldn't he see it?
If it were necessary for the story for the kid to see the blood stain,
we would have witnessed his seeing it, and reacting to it in some way.
>> Even we
>> are fooled into thinking others see Willis, when he is stitting with
>> the kid's mother when he comes home, or in the restaurant scene in
>> which his wife seems to speak to him.
>
>Again, WE are (or at least, YOU were), but we were only seeing a small
>fraction of what happened in the kid's life, from the POV of Dr. Bruce.
> What we don't see is the rest of the kid's experience after (say) Dr.
>Bruce leaves his living room, when mom is going to make him the
>triangle pancakes. You might not notice a kid talking to himself if
>you were just passing him on the street, but if he's your son and
>you're both in your own home, you're either going to be aware that
>there was just a psychologist in your living room, or you're going to
>be reasonably certain that there wasn't.
>
The mother was in another oom, and we assume she does not hear the
quiet conversation between the two.
>Sure, Dr. Bruce doesn't know he's dead, but according to the
>writer/director (and he aught to know), the kid does. So it's still a
>bit of a hole for me, as to why the kid who was deathly afraid of the
>ghosts that weren't actually threatening him, didn't know they were
>even dead, and only saw what they wanted to see, decided it was okay to
>have a nice chat with one of them, but not the others. If the church
>was supposed to be his sanctuary, and a ghost walked right in and sat
>down next to him, it seems an odd leap for the kid to assume that this
>must mean that the church is STILL his sanctuary (he still kept all of
>his religious icons, and even swiped another as he left the first
>meeting with Dr. Bruce), but that this one ghost must be okay.
Willis' approach to cole was not fear provoking, as were the other
appearances. Even the little girl at the funeral was fear involing at
first until he realized he was to help her by taking the box.
>> And if you never get it, that's cool. I never loved "E.T." the way
>> most everyone else did, yet somehow life, as you say, continues.
>
>Wow, Brevity - condescending much? I think I actually DID 'get it' -
>perhaps moreso than you (after all, you were 180 degres wrong on the
>question of whether the kid knew the doc was dead, right?). I just saw
>(and still see) some holes in the plot, and found the characterizations
>to be somewhat monotone.
Sorry. I didn't mean to be condescending.
>And, it was really, really slow, but that might be because I'd already
>figured out the twist before I saw the thing.
Slow can be good. For me, in this film, the pace seemed fine.
>--
>Life Continues, Despite
>Evidence to the Contrary
>
>Steven
Best,
Gary Pollard
Gary
"Jeri Jo Thomas" <kata...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Really? Take away the SFX and what of The Matrix would be left?
> Not. Much. At least TSS was an "old-fashioned" ghost story,
> with cheesy SFX no less, where the story and characters were more
> important than the eye candy.
BrickRage
>From: kata...@earthlink.net (Jeri Jo Thomas)
>Why don't you just take a page from Nesci's book and say the
>movie sucks and leave it at that.
Yeah!! I think I will.
Chris Bateman
Jeri Jo Thomas <kata...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Brevity said ...
>
> Q:The mother was in another oom, and we assume she does not hear the
> Q:quiet conversation between the two.
> Q:
> And as I recollect, there wasn't even conversation. "Dr. Bruce"
> did all the talking 'cause if the kid had've said anything his
> mother would've asked him who he was talking to.
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