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Ed Lake

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Feb 20, 2002, 1:04:24 PM2/20/02
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I've got a situation where someone wraps a single fix of
cocaine into a small rectangle of paper as I've seen done
in lots of movies and TV shows.

The coke is poured into the center of the paper, the top
third of the paper is then folded down, the bottom third
of the paper is then folded up, the left third of the
paper is then folded to the right, and, finally, the right
third of the paper is folded to the left, which packages
the "single serving" of cocaine neatly inside the paper.

Is there a term for this type of cocaine purchase. Is
that a "nickle bag" or does it have some other name?

Ed


Chuck Fox

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Feb 20, 2002, 2:29:06 PM2/20/02
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Ed Lake hit some keys on 2/20/02 12:04 PM and here's what we got:

It's a bindle. Sizes of envelope may vary. Could be anywhere from a small
looking bindle of 1/4 gram to a larger size bindle of, say, an eight-ball.

In the old days they were called them "Sno Seals" because of the blue image
of a seal balancing a ball on his nose.

Chuck
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EHpianist

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Feb 20, 2002, 2:38:12 PM2/20/02
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> the top
> third of the paper is then folded down, the bottom third
> of the paper is then folded up, the left third of the
> paper is then folded to the right, and, finally, the right
> third of the paper is folded to the left,

That there's some fuzzy math. And all this time I thought that dividing
something into four would create quarters...!


Oranse

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Feb 20, 2002, 2:42:38 PM2/20/02
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<< Is there a term for this type of cocaine purchase. Is
that a "nickle bag" or does it have some other name? >>


20 piece or just twenty


Oranse

Geoff Alexander

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Feb 20, 2002, 4:08:23 PM2/20/02
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"Ed Lake" <det...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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It goes by weight - quarter, half and gram. Twenty five, fifty, a
hundred
bucks, with some variation. If you want more than a gram, you'd buy
an eight ball (3.5 grams) a quarter oz, half, etc.

If you wanted enough to get buzzed for a couple hours, a quarter
would be fine.


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Chris Penny

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Feb 20, 2002, 4:52:37 PM2/20/02
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I'm going back in time a bit, but...I have never heard of the paper
thingy referred to specifically, only the weight you are buying.
So...if you get a gram it could be in a "snow seal" or a vial or one
of those tiny ziplocks. But when you get into the car you would tell
your buddies that you just scored a gram, not that you got an envelope
or vial or whatever.

Chris

Jacques E. Bouchard

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Feb 20, 2002, 4:52:22 PM2/20/02
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"Geoff Alexander" <geeal...@aol.com> wrote in
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> It goes by weight - quarter, half and gram. Twenty five, fifty, a
> hundred
> bucks, with some variation. If you want more than a gram, you'd buy
> an eight ball (3.5 grams) a quarter oz, half, etc.

I see that the drug trade still hasn't entirely converted to the
metric system. It's deplorable, really. I think we should organize an
awareness campaign.

jaybee

potato

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Feb 20, 2002, 5:26:41 PM2/20/02
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Maybe one person. But a couple of people getting some coke for the
evening would get an eight ball. Standard deal. Getting an 8ball is
comparable to getting a case of beer. Or, ahem, so i've heard.

Joe Myers

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Feb 20, 2002, 5:50:37 PM2/20/02
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First of all, I think this whole thread is some kind of scam, part of the
plea bargain he pulled with the FBI after the Fake Detective discovered the
pictures of John Ashcroft corn-holing Spot the Dog with Dumbya choking on a
pretzel in the background...

What's that knock at the door?!

But I digress...

"potato" <pot...@spud.com> wrote ...

[snip]

> ... Getting an 8ball is


> comparable to getting a case of beer. Or, ahem, so i've heard.

Uh-huh...

As Robin Williams noted, "Cocaine is God's way of telling you you have too
much money."

Joe Myers
"In college, the ATM was referred
to as the 'Coke Machine.'"

Wayne

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Feb 20, 2002, 9:27:16 PM2/20/02
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I've worked in Hollywood for 15 years and I haven't a clue about cocaine. I
think the whole industry went sober in the mid-80s just as I was coming
into the biz, with a few exceptions like the legendary Don Simpson. If
people are using coke, it's not in the open like it used to be, from the
stories I've heard. I'd be cautious about peddling a script with too much
of a coke reference, as it might seem "dated" to many of the super-clean
guys and gals in their 20s who run development these days.

But, wow, I read this, and I see some people seem to really know about
cocaine. I feel so wonderfully ignorant and naive, and, as a result, no
longer feeling quite so guilty for skipping my workout today.

Max R.

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Feb 21, 2002, 2:18:03 AM2/21/02
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Music business is full of coke -- film not as much, but it's still around.
People just do it in the bathroom now.

At least from what I've seen.

Max

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MwsReader

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Feb 21, 2002, 2:19:52 AM2/21/02
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Chris wrote:

> I'm going back in time a bit, but...I have never heard of the paper
> thingy referred to specifically, only the weight you are buying.
> So...if you get a gram it could be in a "snow seal" or a vial or one
> of those tiny ziplocks.

The little folded up paper thingies have been used as packaging for
powdered potions prepped by pharmacists since the 19th century
at least. Probably a lot longer. Think "sleeping drafts" and like that.

As far as what they're called when holding coke, I seem to recall
seeing some 30's era drug exposé flick that kept referring to them
as "bindles." I believe. (Not a term used in quite a few decades,
on the other hand.)

Also, Ed referred to it as "a single fix" of coke. Not really good
terminology. Unless it's being injected, which certainly isn't the
most common usage with the powdered form, it's going up a nose
via a "line" or a "hit." (Depending on whether one's talking about
straw or spoon type tools for delivering it to the nasal passages.)
And unless somebody's laying out Tony Montana sized lines,
a gram is going to provide a bunch of hits.

Or so they said, back the olden days.

Ken

Oranse

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Feb 21, 2002, 2:56:57 AM2/21/02
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<< And unless somebody's laying out Tony Montana sized lines,

Yards, mogles, scoops, piles, rails, mountains, cliffhangers, bellringers,
surfboards, figure 8's, lightning bolts, squeegee marks, handfulls....

Going Close Encounters...

Now I got to go to find an ATM to powder my card.

Oranse

Adam Fulford

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Feb 21, 2002, 5:38:33 AM2/21/02
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Back when cocaine was still legal, my great grandfather made a handsome
living selling "cat's whiskers" that is, small doses of it in elegant little
spoons with an etching of cat's faces, and he also sold opium derivatives
(made in the China-based branch of his company), most famously in his "Pink
Pills For Pale People." I know I've strayed from your question, but since I
ain't ever been a cocaine user, I can't help you there, but, I am willing to
obnoxiously impart unhelpful information. You're welcome.


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Alby Reid

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Feb 21, 2002, 7:54:43 AM2/21/02
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Over here in the UK it's called a "wrap".

Alby

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Ed Lake

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Feb 21, 2002, 11:31:42 AM2/21/02
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Chuck Fox wrote:

> Ed Lake hit some keys on 2/20/02 12:04 PM and here's what we got:
>
> > I've got a situation where someone wraps a single fix of
> > cocaine into a small rectangle of paper as I've seen done
> > in lots of movies and TV shows.
> >
> > The coke is poured into the center of the paper, the top
> > third of the paper is then folded down, the bottom third
> > of the paper is then folded up, the left third of the
> > paper is then folded to the right, and, finally, the right
> > third of the paper is folded to the left, which packages
> > the "single serving" of cocaine neatly inside the paper.
> >
> > Is there a term for this type of cocaine purchase. Is
> > that a "nickle bag" or does it have some other name?
> >
> > Ed
>
> It's a bindle. Sizes of envelope may vary. Could be anywhere from a small
> looking bindle of 1/4 gram to a larger size bindle of, say, an eight-ball.
>
> In the old days they were called them "Sno Seals" because of the blue image
> of a seal balancing a ball on his nose.
>
> Chuck

Chuck,

"Bindle" seems to be the conscensus here - if there is one. In a book I have in
my library "The Slang of Sin", it says that a package of cocaine is either a
"bindle" or a "bing". "Sno Seal" isn't in the book, and it sounds like a local
"brand name".

Thanks for the feedback.

Ed
http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/

Ed Lake

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Feb 21, 2002, 11:34:53 AM2/21/02
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EHpianist wrote:

EHpianist,

It's called the "pharmaceutical fold".

Check this location for a better explanation of what I mean:
http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/spores.html#fold

Ed


Ed Lake

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Feb 21, 2002, 11:42:25 AM2/21/02
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MwsReader wrote:

Ken,

Right. It's called a "pharmaceutical fold". When I suddenly remembered that
term, I looked it up on Yahoo! and got six hits. Most were from packaging
equipment makers who said their equipment could fold things that way, but
there was also one from a law enforcement agency saying that a
"pharmaceutical fold" is a good way to preserve certain kinds of evidence
found at a crime scene - such as hairs and fingernails, etc. I guess they
mean that the cop should rip a page out of his notebook and fold it around
the evidence that way.

You still see "bindles" being passed around in TV cop shows. Some guy slips
money to some other guy and gets a "bindle" in return.

And according to that law enforcement site, looking for papers that are or
were folded in the "pharmaceutical fold" is good police work.

Ed
http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/


Ed Lake

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Feb 21, 2002, 11:53:45 AM2/21/02
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Joe,

Actually, you are not too far wrong. I was studying the evidence in the
anthrax case and suddenly realized that the letters that contained the anthrax
were folded in the "pharmaceutical fold" - which is the way drugs were safely
dispensed for centuries.

That method of folding paper would almost certainly prove that the anthrax
terrorist did not intend for the anthrax to escape from the envelope and into
the postal system. The anthrax was put inside letters folded in the
pharmaceutical fold and the letters were then put into envelopes that were
taped shut.

It's undoubtedly something that will come out in court when the anthrax
terrorists are caught and tried. That's why I created a separate section about
it on my web site: http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/spores.html#fold And
that's why I contacted the FBI about it yesterday.

Ed
http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/

Geoff Alexander

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Feb 21, 2002, 12:25:00 PM2/21/02
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"Wayne" <4j14gjgjn...@kh142hj.org> wrote in message
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> I've worked in Hollywood for 15 years and I haven't a clue about cocaine. I


> think the whole industry went sober in the mid-80s just as I was coming
> into the biz, with a few exceptions like the legendary Don Simpson. If
> people are using coke, it's not in the open like it used to be, from the
> stories I've heard. I'd be cautious about peddling a script with too much
> of a coke reference, as it might seem "dated" to many of the super-clean
> guys and gals in their 20s who run development these days.

Two words: New Line.

Actually, things cleaned up there when De Luca got sober. But, people
still party - alot. A couple of weeks ago, I was in a meeting which was
going really strangely, the guy was cool and all, but he was just all
over the
map. Suddenly, I realized, "Holy shit, this guy is pinned."

I guess it helped him wake up in the morning.


Geoff

Wayne

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Feb 21, 2002, 3:55:01 PM2/21/02
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"Geoff Alexander" <geeal...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Two words: New Line.
>
> Actually, things cleaned up there when De Luca got sober.

I have several projects in development at New Line and never witnessed any
behavior problems. Given that my stuff was on their "quality" slate, I
never dealt with De Luca personally. My two CEs have now left New Line and
they're straight arrow types, so perhaps that's why they wanted to get out.
It's tough to be Bo Peep in a fold of coked-up wolves.

I know one producer who I was certain was a cokehead for several years. I
found out, however, that said producer is just practically insane and the
very strange and hyper behavior is "normal" for this particular person.

If De Luca falls off the wagon now that he's at Dreamworks, he will not
last long. I do know that drug abuse is very not tolerated there.


southerncross

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Feb 22, 2002, 1:29:52 AM2/22/02
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The term I had heard in bygone years,was bindle

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Ed Lake

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Feb 22, 2002, 11:33:30 AM2/22/02
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Southerncross,

Yes, "bindle" is the term that seems to be correct. But now I'm
wondering if cocaine is really sold that way. The more I think
about it, the more I think that it's heroin that is sold in
"bindles". In my mind I can recall many movie scenes where some
addict unfolds a "bindle" they just aquired, pours the powder
into a spoon, then heats the spoon to liquify the heroin so that
the hypodermic can be used. Other scenes I can picture in my
mind are where deals are made on the street and a bindle is
passed from the seller to the buyer, or where cops roust a bar
and everyone holding a "bindle" immediately drops it on the
floor.

That makes me wonder if a "bindle" of cocaine and a "bindle" of
heroin are both correct terms.

Ed
http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/

Maj. Bushteaser

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Feb 22, 2002, 4:16:26 PM2/22/02
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I thought heroin was sold in balloons.

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Ed Lake

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Feb 23, 2002, 12:39:26 PM2/23/02
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Maj. Bushteaser,

You could be right. But I don't recall ever seeing anyone in a movie
opening a balloon to get to the heroin. I think it's almost always a
"bindle". I would think that a balloon would hold more than one fix.
But it's not an area where I have any expertise at all.

Ed
http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/

Maj. Bushteaser

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Feb 25, 2002, 5:57:04 PM2/25/02
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Perhaps. I got my info from Pulp Fiction where Eric Stoltz runs out of
balloons for Vincent and Mia thinks it's blow since it's in a baggie; she
snorts it and OD's.

--
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On Wednesday, February 20, 2002 at 11:29:06 AM UTC-8, Chuck Fox wrote:
> Ed Lake hit some keys on 2/20/02 12:04 PM and here's what we got:
>
> > I've got a situation where someone wraps a single fix of
> > cocaine into a small rectangle of paper as I've seen done
> > in lots of movies and TV shows.
> >
> > The coke is poured into the center of the paper, the top
> > third of the paper is then folded down, the bottom third
> > of the paper is then folded up, the left third of the
> > paper is then folded to the right, and, finally, the right
> > third of the paper is folded to the left, which packages
> > the "single serving" of cocaine neatly inside the paper.
> >
> > Is there a term for this type of cocaine purchase. Is
> > that a "nickle bag" or does it have some other name?
> >
> > Ed
>
> It's a bindle. Sizes of envelope may vary. Could be anywhere from a small
> looking bindle of 1/4 gram to a larger size bindle of, say, an eight-ball.
>
> In the old days they were called them "Sno Seals" because of the blue image
> of a seal balancing a ball on his nose.
>
> Chuck
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>
> http://playboy.com@hookingupwithhefschicks@63.136.85.138/grotto.html
>
> Observation will press the button and imagination will do the rest.
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>
> replace "spamisgak" with "chuckfox"

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On Wednesday, February 20, 2002 at 11:29:06 AM UTC-8, Chuck Fox wrote:
> Ed Lake hit some keys on 2/20/02 12:04 PM and here's what we got:
>
> > I've got a situation where someone wraps a single fix of
> > cocaine into a small rectangle of paper as I've seen done
> > in lots of movies and TV shows.
> >
> > The coke is poured into the center of the paper, the top
> > third of the paper is then folded down, the bottom third
> > of the paper is then folded up, the left third of the
> > paper is then folded to the right, and, finally, the right
> > third of the paper is folded to the left, which packages
> > the "single serving" of cocaine neatly inside the paper.
> >
> > Is there a term for this type of cocaine purchase. Is
> > that a "nickle bag" or does it have some other name?
> >
> > Ed
>
> It's a bindle. Sizes of envelope may vary. Could be anywhere from a small
> looking bindle of 1/4 gram to a larger size bindle of, say, an eight-ball.
>
> In the old days they were called them "Sno Seals" because of the blue image
> of a seal balancing a ball on his nose.
>
> Chuck
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>
> http://playboy.com@hookingupwithhefschicks@63.136.85.138/grotto.html
>
> Observation will press the button and imagination will do the rest.
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>
> replace "spamisgak" with "chuckfox"
>notaballbalanceingonthatsealsnose...asnowflake!

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