DEADER screenplay
Dr. Jai Maharaj
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[ From: "Tom Wood" <tomw...@flash.net> <mw...@panix.com>
[ Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005
[
[ Great read, I like how you punctuate the action to
[ subtly imply camera angles. Also liked the moving train
[ party and the way she had to pry the info she needed
[ out of an uncooperative person. The blowjob though - Is
[ that something thrown in to titillate the readers? The
[ scenes where one reality broke through to another
[ sounded high-dollar in terms of effects, so it might be
[ a good thing that it became part of a franchise. Hard
[ to imagine that stuff in a low budget movie. They did a
[ similar effect in Pirates of the Caribbean and it
[ didn't look cheap to do.
[
[ TW
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[ From: "nmstevens" <nmst...@msn.com> <mw...@panix.com>
[ Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005
[
[ Tom Wood wrote:
[ >
[ > Great read, I like how you punctuate the action to
[ > subtly imply camera angles. Also liked the moving train
[ > party and the way she had to pry the info she needed
[ > out of an uncooperative person. The blowjob though - Is
[ > that something thrown in to titillate the readers?
[
[ To be honest, given that I never thought that this was
[ going to be more than an R-rated movie, it never occured
[ to me that you'd actually *see* much of anything -- I
[ mean, much beyond the fact that this guy has a girl down
[ between his legs, which, considering that she's just
[ walked the length of a train full of people in pretty
[ much all imaginable states of undress engaged in pretty
[ much anything you could think of --doesn't strike me as
[ inherently "titillating."
[
[ I did it, really, for two reasons -- first, I thought it
[ would be kind of funny -- that is, this guy carries on
[ what amounts to a rather casual conversation with Amy,
[ during the entire course of which he's having sex with
[ somebody else -- and he hardly ever refers to it.
[
[ Second, while we refer on several occasions to the kinds
[ of stories that Amy has done in the past, to the kind of
[ stuff that she's gotten into -- and there's the reference
[ to her previous story -- "How to be a Crack Whore" -- we
[ don't really see anything -- we don't get to see her, in
[ essence, on her own turf.
[
[ This place, these people, this situation -- having a
[ casual conversation with some guy who's being given a
[ blow job -- getting information out of him -- that's the
[ world that she knows, the kind of people she deals with.
[
[ If it's just like meeting some guy in a club, only it's
[ happening on a train -- if it was sanitized in that way -
[ - then, as far as I'm concerned, it makes Joey into much
[ less interesting a character -- and it says much less
[ about Amy -- so she goes to a train where they have
[ something like a club and talks to a guy there. But you
[ add that edge of weird depravity -- and have everybody
[ treat it like normal -- and now it's saying something
[ about her -- about what has -- at least up until now --
[ constituted "normal" in the world in which she has
[ navigated. And this guy -- the guy who is casually being
[ given a blow job -- he's the guy who's telling her that
[ what she's doing now is too weird, too dangerous, too
[ abnormal -- that she should back off, move out of town,
[ change her name.
[
[ It makes it into a rather different kind of scene --
[ certainly a rather different scene than what ultimately
[ ended up in the finished movie.
[
[ > The scenes where one reality broke through to another
[ > sounded high-dollar in terms of effects, so it might be
[ > a good thing that it became part of a franchise. Hard
[ > to imagine that stuff in a low budget movie.
[
[ I think you may have mis-typed. It might be a good thing
[ that it did --or a good thing that it *didn't*? Those
[ elements of the story certainly didn't survive the
[ transformation to a 2 million dollar direct-to-video
[ Hellraiser sequel -- which is as about as low-budget as
[ you can get outside of the Charlie Band type world. All
[ of that stuff was cut --the Chinese kitchen was cut --
[ plus, of course, just to save a little time and money,
[ they also cut out all of the scares.
[
[ > They did a similar effect in Pirates of the Caribbean
[ > and it didn't look cheap to do.
[
[ Well, it was pretty pricey in PotC because the "alternate
[ reality" that broke through was one in which all of the
[ characters were replaced by skeletal duplicates that were
[ completely rendered by means of CGI. Indeed, that would
[ be rather expensive.
[
[ "Deader" as originally conceived was certainly not a high
[ budget movie, in Hollywood terms. It would have been,
[ depending on the level of the casting, something like a
[ fifteen or twenty million dollar movie.
[
[ That, unfortunately, was not destined to be its fate.
[
[ NMS
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RonB
> Oh man! Where could I read that screenplay? I've been waiting for a
> year.
http://www.horrorlair.com/scripts/DEADER.pdf
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RonB
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MIND CRASH
Thanks RonB, but this webtv does not work with those files. I'm
cursed. Wait a minute. I can go to the library. Thanks so much.