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ov...@aol.com

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May 26, 2005, 10:27:50 PM5/26/05
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Listened to a show on NPR yesterday about how casting directors want to
join the Teamsters Union and get residuals on TV shows.

The guy they interviewed was like, "The actors get residuals each time
the show airs, and so do the writers, but casting directors should get
residuals, too. Sure, the writer wrote the dialog, but we casting
directors helped make that character happen."

I don't buy it. I can see actors and writers getting residuals, but not
casting directors. Can you?

Lois

MC

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May 26, 2005, 10:49:37 PM5/26/05
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In article <d760j5$1hk$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
"ov...@aol.com" <ov...@aol.com> wrote:

Do the Teamsters on film gigs get residuals? I mean the guys who drive
the trucks... if they don't I can't see the casting directors getting
them.

--

"You don't write because you want to say something,
you write because you've got something to say."
--F. Scott Fitzgerald

sl

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May 27, 2005, 9:29:53 AM5/27/05
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I've heard of the greed of casting director's before. I've heard of them
asking for an executive producer credit just to get a script in front of
someone. Making a phone call call does not make a character happen, and
asking for residuals diminishes the efforts of those actually involved in
the production. Residuals? It's a big price to pay for someone to look up
a number on their PDA and make a call.

new...@virtual.com

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May 27, 2005, 1:34:08 PM5/27/05
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Casting director.

Job function: Conceive/design a cast of characters to best support a
movie story at the behest of a producing team.

Pay by the job. Be done with it. One time thing. Next!

Just my .01 cent.

Doug

Just a virtual guy... in a virtual world

sl

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May 27, 2005, 3:02:06 PM5/27/05
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new...@virtual.com wrote:

>
> Casting director.
>
> Job function: Conceive/design a cast of characters to best support a
> movie story at the behest of a producing team.
>
> Pay by the job. Be done with it. One time thing. Next!

Agreed, they should be done with it and move on. Granted, I don't hear of
everything, but I have yet to hear of a casting director who matches the
major roles with the primary actors (without some direction and guidance
from the Producer and Director). Casting directors work for secondary
roles, maybe - extras, all the time. Their "design" of a cast of characters
goes as far as who they know, and how they can call them. There are always
exceptions to the rule, and those exceptions are well paid.

Casting directors create every day, and then flush it.

ov...@aol.com

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May 28, 2005, 7:46:57 AM5/28/05
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I was annoyed by the casting director they interviewed saying, "The
writer wrote the dialog." How about: the writer wrote the dialog,
created the characters, came up with the plot, etc., etc., etc.? The
writer has 10^3x more to do with the success of the show than the
casting director!

Lois

Ron

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May 28, 2005, 2:07:52 PM5/28/05
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In article <d79lng$q6m$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
"ov...@aol.com" <ov...@aol.com> wrote:

And the writer gets residuals.

The question, from the CD's point of view, is who else gets residuals.

I mean, many casting directors get their names in the front credits. How
many other people with their names in the front credits don't get
residuals?

Jacques E. Bouchard

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May 28, 2005, 2:22:11 PM5/28/05
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Ron <ronald...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:d7ac1o$lqa$1
@reader1.panix.com:

The CD has nothing to do with the performance of the actors cast.

Director, writer, composer, etc. those are all people whose
performance/work you see *directly* every time the movie is shown.


jaybee

monkeyhawk

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May 28, 2005, 2:45:52 PM5/28/05
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Why stop with CDs?

I think the caterers deserve residuals.

What if Bogart's tummy grumbled in the middle of his "Of all the gin
joints..." speech? But, thanks to a well-placed cupcake on the craft
service table, the line is immportal!

Do you have any idea what the presense of garlic butter on the set might
have done to "Last Tango in Paris?"

Joe Myers
"May contain nuts."

Jacques E. Bouchard

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May 28, 2005, 2:54:47 PM5/28/05
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"monkeyhawk" <monke...@cox.net> wrote in news:d7ae90$klp$1
@reader1.panix.com:

> Why stop with CDs?
>
> I think the caterers deserve residuals.

I was thinking exactly the same thing.

And don't forget the girl in the ticket booth at the theater.

jaybee

RonB

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May 28, 2005, 4:00:18 PM5/28/05
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On Sat 28 May 2005 12:22:11p, Jacques E. Bouchard, wrote:

> The CD has nothing to do with the performance of the actors cast.

But he/she can be instrumental in getting the right actors for the parts
-- which can make or break a movie. I'm not saying this warrants
residuals (or doesn't) -- I don't know enough about how the business
works -- but I *do* think there is more to being a Casting Director than
taking out the garbage.

--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"

MC

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May 28, 2005, 4:09:27 PM5/28/05
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In article <d7ae90$klp$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
"monkeyhawk" <monke...@cox.net> wrote:

> Do you have any idea what the presense of garlic butter on the set might
> have done to "Last Tango in Paris?"

Somebody's breath would have smelled? The gerbil would have edied?

I give up.

What would it have done?

Carl Dershem

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May 28, 2005, 4:39:32 PM5/28/05
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"Jacques E. Bouchard" <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:d7aepn$fjn$1
@reader1.panix.com:

I dated her - and she *did* have residuals. Or at least I think that's
what the doctor called them. :/

cd
--
The difference between immorality and immortality is "T". I like Earl
Grey.

Jacques E. Bouchard

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May 28, 2005, 4:51:29 PM5/28/05
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RonB <ronbN...@bliz.org> wrote in news:d7aiki$hpm$1...@reader1.panix.com:

To casting agents, the "right" actor for the role is whoever they have
available that sells right now.

jaybee

nmstevens

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May 29, 2005, 12:15:16 PM5/29/05
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I'm pretty sure that nobody in the camera department -- Director of
Photography on down, gets residuals. Ditto with the editorial staff --
and I think that, at least, the D.P. and the Editor get front credits.

Line producers neither get residuals nor have profit participation --
it is strictly a paid job.

NMS

Jacques E. Bouchard

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May 29, 2005, 12:33:14 PM5/29/05
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"ov...@aol.com" <ov...@aol.com> wrote in news:d760j5$1hk$1...@reader1.panix.com:

> Listened to a show on NPR yesterday about how casting directors want to
> join the Teamsters Union and get residuals on TV shows.

Lois, I tried finding that broadcast on NPR's web site. Do you have more
information about it?


jaybee

Ron

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May 29, 2005, 1:00:35 PM5/29/05
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In article <d7cpqk$n6d$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
"nmstevens" <nmst...@msn.com> wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that nobody in the camera department -- Director of
> Photography on down, gets residuals. Ditto with the editorial staff --
> and I think that, at least, the D.P. and the Editor get front credits.

Okay.

In that case, allow me to laugh at casting directors asking for
residuals.

Ha ha ha. :)

-Ron

ov...@aol.com

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May 29, 2005, 4:43:15 PM5/29/05
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Jacques E. Bouchard wrote:

If it wasn't on NPR, try Pulic Radio International.

Lois

ov...@aol.com

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May 29, 2005, 5:03:14 PM5/29/05
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Jacques E. Bouchard wrote:

If it wasn't on NPR, try Pulic Radio International.

Lois

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ov...@aol.com

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May 29, 2005, 9:12:04 PM5/29/05
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Jacques E. Bouchard wrote:

> >> Lois, I tried finding that broadcast on NPR's web site. Do you have
> >> more information about it?
> >
> > If it wasn't on NPR, try Pulic Radio International.
>

> I didn't find it because I don't have any information about it. Do you have
> a guest name, title, etc.?

A Google search of "teamsters+casting+residuals" got this:

http://www.wgaeast.org/mba/2004/articleindex/2004/05/16/variety/

That should get you started.

Lois

sl

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May 31, 2005, 10:41:32 AM5/31/05
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RonB wrote:

The casting director should not be confused with the actor's agent. In my
opinion the CD do little more than say to themselves "Whom might I be able
to contact that is right for this part?", and that is only after they have
what should be a lengthy conversation with the director or producer. Then
they go out and get the likes of Jar-Jar Binks.

As long as we're at it, the P.A. that does craft services should get
residuals too. They are largely responsible for the happiness of the entire
cast and crew. Have you ever seen Julia Roberts when her toast is not "just
right"? The whole project gets real ugly, real fast.


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