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Nikki Finke waxes sooth on the town and the Oscars

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Skipper

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Feb 2, 2006, 3:41:35 PM2/2/06
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Deadline Hollywood
How Gay Will Oscar Go?

(check it out)

I predicted they'd wuss and give it to Crash about two months ago.

Wuss in that a lot of them would love to give it to Brokeback and go
"Yeah, fuck you, Bush!"

But they won't, and a lot of Academy members loathe the idea like she
says. Great take on the town.

Marifasus lupinus

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Feb 2, 2006, 4:27:57 PM2/2/06
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Mm. And here' s Mickey Kaus's augmentation of her points, on Slate:

"Anti-Brokebacklashlash: Nikki Finke claims it's not red state
moviegoers who are avoiding Brokeback Mountain because they're
"disgusted" by "the possibility of glimpsing simulated gay sex." It's
the members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences--even
"baby boomers and younger Academy members."

I'm skeptical, as one should always be regarding a Nikki Finke article.
Surely some Academy members are viscerally averse to watching gay sex.
(They have genes too.) But Finke's three-alarm charge of hypocrisy
smells like a brilliant move to counter the mild anti-Brokeback
backlash evident at the recent SAG awards. ... P.S.: You knew there
would be an anti-homophobic guilt trip somewhere in this process. I
didn't realize it would be directed at Hollywood liberals rather than
moviegoers. But it makes sense--as Finke notes, guilt-trips work on
them. ... P.P.S.: Many commenters have noticed the obvious--the Best
Picture nominees are four left-messaged political films, plus a movie
about Truman Capote! But if you read Finke's column, you realize it's
really not that bad. It's worse! If she's even 50% on the mark, the
Academy Awards are now hopelessly, pervasively, and openly politicized
(and the politics are Hollywood Left). Maybe they should be carried on
Daily Kos."

And Andrew Sullivan's reply to Kaus and by extension Fine:

http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/2006/02/mickey_and_the_.html

-ml

Skipper

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Feb 2, 2006, 5:18:30 PM2/2/06
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In article <drttgt$8ll$1...@reader2.panix.com>, Marifasus lupinus
<marifasu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

And Sullivan has to throw in his own standard "must be homophobic"
think -

"Actually, when Mickey sees gay, he can't see anything but his own
panic."

Who panics? I don't think anybody panics, any more than every military
veteran is a closet homosexual as alluded to in a certain scene in
"American Beauty."

But straight people do get tired of certain agendas being thrust before
their faces constantly in the media. And this year, Hollywood is all
about that.

Brian Christgau

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Feb 2, 2006, 5:30:24 PM2/2/06
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"Skipper" <skipsp...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Personally, I think they might give Ang Lee the Best Director Oscar to
compensate him for the year they SCREWED him and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden
Dragon". As for the sore-winner Republicans I hear bitching and moaning
about Hollywood's "Gay Agenda" - what about all of the damn Military
Drama/Recruiting films they crank out year after year? I love how all the
Medveds and O'Liellys conveniently forget about those.

Cheers,

B

Skipper

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Feb 2, 2006, 8:35:37 PM2/2/06
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In article <dru160$3u4$1...@reader2.panix.com>, Brian Christgau
<radu...@verizon.net> wrote:

That's just one more example of liberal assumptions about life that
have no basis in fact. I don't see ANY Republicans bitching and moaning
about Hollywood's "Gay Agenda" - that's a figment of your imagination.
Maybe Pat Robertson or some crank like that. Not regular folks. And
any business - it's a volunteer army, you know - makes media product to
promote what they do and get people to support it. So if the "they" you
speak of is the military, that's the deal. I by "they" you mean
Hollywood making "Military Drama/Recruiting films" that's the funniest
thing I've heard this week.

Marifasus lupinus

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Feb 2, 2006, 9:20:04 PM2/2/06
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Skipper wrote:
> In article <drttgt$8ll$1...@reader2.panix.com>, Marifasus lupinus
> <marifasu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Actually, when Mickey sees gay, he can't see anything but his own
> panic."
>
> Who panics? I don't think anybody panics

If you think this you're not a serious person.

> But straight people do get tired of certain agendas being thrust before
> their faces constantly in the media.

By "certain agendas" I assume you mean one agenda, a pro-homosexual
one. I'm straight, and I'm not tired of a tiny sliver of all TV shows
and films sympathetically depicting gays. You're correct that some do,
of course. Those people are obsessed with this issue beyond all
proportion, signaling that something much more personal and neurotic is
happening in their emotions -- generally, that they're suppressing
homoerotic feelings and loathe themselves for it. Too bad dad was such
an asshole, Mary.

-ml

Bed Sores

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Feb 2, 2006, 9:57:04 PM2/2/06
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"Marifasus lupinus" <marifasu...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://www.xtat.org/offtrack/CTA_OFFtrack_pages/WillieWilson/RevWillieWilson07-03-05.mp3

Schlockhack

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Feb 2, 2006, 11:22:08 PM2/2/06
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>>> As for the sore-winner Republicans

I'm straight and Republican, and not a sore winner, but for some reason
my anus is sore today.

Skipper

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Feb 2, 2006, 11:35:07 PM2/2/06
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In article <druekk$18j$1...@reader2.panix.com>, Marifasus lupinus
<marifasu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Skipper wrote:
> > In article <drttgt$8ll$1...@reader2.panix.com>, Marifasus lupinus
> > <marifasu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "Actually, when Mickey sees gay, he can't see anything but his own
> > panic."
> >
> > Who panics? I don't think anybody panics
>
> If you think this you're not a serious person.

Yeah, right. One statement and I'm not "serious."

Well, fuck serious. Serious is the problem with most of the world.

>
> > But straight people do get tired of certain agendas being thrust before
> > their faces constantly in the media.
>
> By "certain agendas" I assume you mean one agenda, a pro-homosexual
> one. I'm straight, and I'm not tired of a tiny sliver of all TV shows
> and films sympathetically depicting gays. You're correct that some do,
> of course. Those people are obsessed with this issue beyond all
> proportion, signaling that something much more personal and neurotic is
> happening in their emotions -- generally, that they're suppressing
> homoerotic feelings and loathe themselves for it. Too bad dad was such
> an asshole, Mary.
>
> -ml

Would you please put all that back in your shrink's notes and keep it
away from the rest of us?

Brian Christgau

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Feb 3, 2006, 4:23:57 AM2/3/06
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"Skipper" <skipsp...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Really? Wow. I guess the Fox News Channel and CNN are just leftover
hallucinations from that LSD I took back in '85, though considerably less
entertaining than those wicked cool ones I've been having about these
creatures called "Teletubbies".

Cheers,

B

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