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UTA PR Faux-Paux in Utah County caused by Chamber of Commerce, County Commission????

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jan...@hotmail.com

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Feb 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/10/00
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We have talked with some informed sources here today, and have more info
on who allegedly said what here.

It started, allegedly with a Mr. Denson, who has for years written
articles complaining about empty buses going through his neighborhood.
He has since allegedly poisoned the Provo-Orem Chamber of Commerce with
that rhetoric, and also the Utah County Commission (government) was
also poisoned by it.

They all then approached, allegedly, UTA and said they wanted to have
full buses, yes, all of them running full, and they all fell in line
behind that rhetoric.

Now, UTA: Before this becomes your waterloo here, please answer the
following questions. You have 'run out of lifelines' as the game show
says, so you need to come up with some answers to some really tough
questions.

No, you won't win that million dollars, but you may prevent a major PR
faux-paux from happening.

Now for the questions:

Do you care about the people who ride the bus, no matter where they
live or work or shop?

Do you care about the handicapped, no matter where they live, work, or
want to go to?

Do you care that there are handicapped and elderly who want to be able
to go where they want to go and not have to call a phone number to
arrange a time to be picked up, go there, and wait for another ride to
come in and take them home again?

Do you care that these people want to be independent and resent having
to do more than they feel is necessary just to be independent?

Do you care that some people are now going to be much further away from
a bus or have fewer buses go by than before?

Do you care that we pay taxes, and that to implement this plan would
essentially be 'Taxation without representation' in the form of not
providing bus service?

Are you a friend of the bus rider, or in cahoots with the government
and business?

Are you a business-district oriented bus service, or a neighborhood-to-
neighborhood bus service?

Are you a business-to-business bus service, or are you a residence to
business bus service?

These questions, and more need to be answered, as it is important that
we know what you are really thinking here. You claim that you lost
ridership, when other factors are really at work here. You need to
provide essentially the same level of service as you do now and add
more service to presently unserved parts of Utah County, not take away
from it.

We are readying to file a Freedom of Information Act notice to obtain
the minutes of any meetings involving UTA on this matter, that being
2000 Utah County plan.

James W. Anderson
President,
Bus Riders' Association, Timpanogos System (BRATS).

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jan...@hotmail.com

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Feb 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/10/00
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A correction: The name of the letter-writer who allegedly started this
whole mess was Mr. DENSLEY, not Mr. DENSON. My apologies for the
error. (Copy to UTA also to clear up the misunderstanding on the name
also)

gregj

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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UTA has got some major problems that they need to sit down and think about.
I happen to work on 700 S. The light rail derailment was right in front of
our shop and do not let UTA kid you on the severity of that accident.
Earlier that day of the accident the train had passed by the failed switch
and it made a loud banging noise, within 10 minutes there were two UTA
offiicals inspecting that switch. I repeat they knew they had a problem,
but chose not to stop and fix it. I guess they should feel lucky that no
one was seriosly hurt. Also do not believe them that the train was
traveling only 10-15 mph, he was going over 40 for sure. UTA needs to dig
down deep and figure out if they are using our tax dollars to "better
transportation" or are they worried about the bottom line? Before they talk
of expansion or east-west light rail, fix what is broken.


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