I know that the following have subway or light-rail stations nearby:
Fenway Park (Boston Red Sox)
Yankee Stadium (New York Yankees)
Shea Stadium (New York Mets)
Camden Yards (Baltimore Orioles)
Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians)
Wrigley Field (Chicago Cubs)
Comiskey Park (Chicago White Sox)
Pacific Bell Park (San Francisco Giants) -- just opened
Oakland Coliseum (Oakland Athletics)
Olympic Stadium (Montreal Expos)
How near are the Toronto, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Denver, Dallas,
Atlanta, Miami, St. Louis, and San Diego ballparks to those cities' rail
systems?
Which other stadiums have I left out that have public transportation?
--
Ron Newman rne...@thecia.net
http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/home.html
The St. Louis stop is right at the ballpark. Also I believe the
new Comerica Park in Detroit is within a few blocks of the
People Mover and also the Trolley.
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>Now that baseball season has started in the USA and Canada, could
>someone please repost the list of ballparks that have public
>transportation?
>
>I know that the following have subway or light-rail stations nearby:
>
> Fenway Park (Boston Red Sox)
> Yankee Stadium (New York Yankees)
> Shea Stadium (New York Mets)
> Camden Yards (Baltimore Orioles)
> Jacobs Field (Cleveland Indians)
> Wrigley Field (Chicago Cubs)
> Comiskey Park (Chicago White Sox)
> Pacific Bell Park (San Francisco Giants) -- just opened
> Oakland Coliseum (Oakland Athletics)
> Olympic Stadium (Montreal Expos)
>
>How near are the Toronto, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Denver, Dallas,
>Atlanta, Miami, St. Louis, and San Diego ballparks to those cities' rail
>systems?
>
>Which other stadiums have I left out that have public transportation?
GM Place (Vancouver Grizzlies and Canucks)
BC Place (BC Lions)
Commonwealth Stadium (Edmonton Eskimos)
Northlands Coliseum (Edmonton Oilers)
Saddledome (Calgary Flames)
McMahon Stadium (Calgary Stampeders)
Sorry, but there's no baseball stadiums that I can think of.
--
Mark A Ritchie
http://members.home.net/knowbodies/index.html
In Pittsburgh, Three Rivers Stadium is about a 15 minute walk Gateway Center
Station.
Three Rivers Stadium will be replaced next year by two stadia, one for baseball
and one for football, each near the present stadium site. The new stadia will
be served by an extention of the light rail system. The extension is still in
the planning stages and will not be open until 2004.
If we want to include minor league parks, Point Stadium in Johnstown, PA is
quite near the lower station of the Johnstown Incline. (Do inclines, as we call
tem here in Western Pennsylvania count as rail systems? Should they be in the
FAQ?)
-Ken Joseph
Pittsburgh, PA
-Ken Joseph,
Pittsburgh PA.
>The St. Louis stop is right at the ballpark. Also I believe the
>new Comerica Park in Detroit is within a few blocks of the
>People Mover and also the Trolley.
I didn't realize Detroit still had trolley lines. Where do
they go?
The Philadelphia Phillies stadium is right next to the Pattison station of
the Broad Street Subway.
--
Jon Bell <jtb...@presby.edu>
http://web.presby.edu/~jtbell/transit/
http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/ddot/TROLLEY.htm
It is a newer trolley line running old cars; it is not an original line
still in operation...
"Ron Newman" <rne...@thecia.net> wrote in message
news:8clgp5$q...@edrn.newsguy.com...
Runs from Grand Circus Park south down Washington Blvd. to Cobo Center
then east along the south side of Jefferson Ave. to the Renaissance
Center. Nothing about this line is related to the previous streetcar
network that existed. Line is narrow gauge and the cars are
European. The line had been inactive for a couple of years.
Apparently the City of Detroit found some money to fix what ever the
problem was. Reported to have had bad track but I'm sure the lack of
passengers and the lack of building tenants along the route had a lot to
do with the shut down.
Dave
FAQ Part 6 of 8 : Transit to airports, stadiums etc
PART SIX: Services to airports, stadiums etc
6.0: Which world airports have direct rail service to downtown?
This question was asked as a specific question for the FAQ in March 1998
by Peter Montgomery <pmon...@MATH.ORST.EDU>.
Colin Leech > crl...@freenet.carleton.ca < replied :
The worldwide list is fairly long, because Europe has realized how
beneficial multimodalism is, but the North American list is woefully
short and thus can easily be included in a FAQ. :-( We should also
include a brief description of who and how. I'll start the list (I've
probably missed one or two that people can fill in).
RAPID TRANSIT directly to the airport, in North America: [note the use
of
the term "rapid transit" rather than "rail" :-)] :
Washington DC - National Airport [oops, are they calling this "Ronald
Reagan Airport" now?] - WMATA Metro Blue and Yellow Lines
Philadelphia PA - SEPTA Regional Rail Line R1 [or R7? please correct]
Baltimore-Washington Airport MD - Baltimore (Maryland MTA) light rail
Atlanta GA - Hartsfield Airport (?) MARTA subway south line
Cleveland OH - GCTA subway line
Chicago IL - O'Hare Airport - CTA Blue line - Midway Airport - CTA
Orange Line.
Ottawa Ont. - Macdonald-Cartier Int'l. Airport - OC Transpo Transitway
(busway) route 96
St Louis, MO - Metrolink
Note that we can't count places like Boston or LA (or MARC to BWI?)
because the rapid transit line doesn't go right to the airport - a
shuttle bus is required to complete the connection, as is the case with
most North American airports.
> To which David McLoughlin > dav...@iprolink.co.nz added:
Airports with trains to city CBDs:
Brussels (Belgium) airport EMU rail link opened May 1 1998
Gatwick (London, UK)
Heathrow (London, UK)
Kloten (Zurich, Switzerland)
Kingsford Smith (Sydney, Australia) [underground railway under
construction]
Chek Lap Kok (Hong Kong) [opened on schedule July 6 1998]
> To which Pete Humble <pe...@dircon.co.uk> added:
Geneva (Switzerland)
Barcelona (Spain)
Madrid (Spain)
Orly (Paris, France)
Charles de Gaulle (Paris, France)
Manchester (UK)
Stanstead (London, UK)
Rome (Italy)
Frankfurt (Germany)
Schiphol (Amsterdam, Netherlands)
And Michael Knorr > mlk...@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de < added:
As Frankfurt was the only German airport listed, I post a list of the
more important airports and how they are connected to the CBD.
Berlin Tegel Bus
Berlin Schönefeld Suburban Rail (S-Bahn)
Berlin Tempelhof Subway
Hamburg Bus
Bremen Tramway (Streetcar)
Hannover Bus, Suburban Rail under construction
Düsseldorf Suburban Rail (S-Bahn, also direct Rail to Ruhr
area)
Köln/Bonn Bus, Railway under construction
Frankfurt Suburban Rail and ICE-trains to several German
cities
Stuttgart Suburban Rail (S-Bahn)
Nürnberg Bus, Subway under construction
München Suburban Rail (S-Bahn)
And a post by Charles Norrie about Heathrow (UK)
Fast train to Heathrow London
Date:
Wed, 3 Jun 1998 00:32:29 +0100
From:
Charles Norrie <Cha...@geodeon.demon.co.uk>
Very quietly last Monday the new Heathrow Express was opened to what in
all essence appears to be its full service. Indeed, it is still branded
as Fastrain, an interim operation which had run since the beginning of
the year from London Paddington to a temporary station just beyond the
new Heathrow Junction - a bus did the rest.
The T4 terminal, which is not integrated with the LUL Piccadilly line
station, but is the opposite end of the building is accessed by two
escalator drops. The theme is a rather sombre grey, with wall panels in
strongly accentuated steel and plastic rectangles. Light has been chosen
for drama, I felt, rather than illumination.
There are two platforms with a central pedestrian access tunnel running
most, if not all, the length of them.
The trains are perhaps intended to resemble unwinged aircraft and are
finished in a glossy grey, though there is a strong window fascia along
the whole train tending to hide the doors. Inside blueberry, plum and
purples seems to have been chosen as colour scheme.
There is only one class; half of one carriage is given over to a locked
luggage compartment, as it is possible to check in at Paddington. The
toilet is quite the largest I've seen on any UK train.
London is 16 minutes from Heathrow, with one stop at Terminals 1,2,3;
there are 4 trains an hour. Even this modest service uses up 25% of the
fast line slots from London. The whole route until the Heathrow junction
(with is graded separated) is in tunnel; as one leaves the tunnel, the
remains of the temporary Fast Train terminal can been seen, track
already lifted.
If the trip from Heathrow to the existing mainline is smooth, it is a
bit bucketty going up to London, where the line quickly merges into the
fast up and down lines out of Paddington.
Platforms 6 and 7 in the centre of the station have be reserved for the
Heathrow Express, but most others are also electrified, if there are any
platforming problems. There is a check-in point with half-a-dozen or so
lanes on the concourse - BA, AA and British Midland will allow check in
at the station. Tickets are currently purchased on the train - there are
booths and machines, but these have not been implemented yet.
Go now while you can at bargain Fastrain prices £5; from 23 June
Heathrow Express will cost £10 - at a similar cost per mile the flight
to NY would cost around £2000. I think I must check that arithmetic.
Further UK information from Duncan Pflaeger
<dun...@pflaeger.demon.co.uk>
Airport Links (Trains):
London Stansted has a direct service to London Liverpool Street every 30
minutes, called Stansted Skytrain.
London Heathrow is now connected to Paddington with the Heathrow Express
service which operates every 15 minutes (opened in June)
Gatwick has the Gatwick Express operating every 15 minutes from London
Victoria.
Birmingham International has it own airport with trains to Birmingham
New
Street.
Luton is served by a Parkway station with a bus to the airport terminal.
Newcastle in served by the Tyne and Wear metro.
Manchester International has frequent services to Manchester Piccadilly
and most other parts of North England.
Glasgow International has it's own station.
Southampton also has its own station with frequent trains to Southampton
Central.
----------------
6.1: Which world airports have direct rail service to downtown?
[...]
UNITED STATES
CALIFORNIA
Burbank - Metrolink Ventura County Line
GEORGIA
Atlanta (Hartsfield) - MARTA subway south line
ILLINOIS
Chicago (Midway) - CTA Orange Line
Chicago (O'Hare Airport) - CTA Blue line
INDIANA
South Bend - NICTD South Shore Line
MARYLAND
Baltimore (Washington Airport) - Baltimore (Maryland MTA) light rail
MISSOURI
St. Louis - Metrolink
OHIO
Cleveland - GCRTA Red Line
PENNSYLVANIA
Philadelphia PA - SEPTA Regional Rail Line R1
WASHINGTON D.C.
Washington DC - National Airport [oops, are they calling this "Ronald
Reagan Airport" now?] - WMATA Metro Blue and Yellow Lines
CANADA
ONTARIO
Ottawa (Macdonald-Cartier Int'l. Airport) - OC Transpo Transitway Route
96
WORLDWIDE
DENMARK
Copenhagen (Kastrup) - Danish State Railways
FRANCE
Paris (Charles de Gaulle) - SNCF RER B3
Paris (Orly) - RATP RER B4
NORWAY
Oslo (Gardermoen) - Norwegian State Railways
6.2: Which airports have scheduled city bus services?
Contributors: Mike Ward, Alan Wetmore, Ken Eikert, Dan Goodman, Bob of
Access
Systems, Chris
Ledermuller, David McLoughlin, Ron Newman, David Barts, Andrea Michelle,
Tom
Box, Jason
DeCesare, Duncan Pflaeger, Christopher Rivituso, Darnell Maurice Scott,
David
& Jan Winter
UNITED STATES
ALASKA
Anchorage - People Mover 6
ARIZONA
Phoenix (Sky Harbor) - Valley Metro Red Line, 13
Tucson - SunTran 11, 25
ARKANSAS
Little Rock - CAT 14
CALIFORNIA
Burbank - Metrolink Ventura County Line (*); MTA 94, 152, 163, 165;
Amtrak
Fresno - FAX 26
Los Angeles - LACMTA 42, 111, 117, 120, 220, 225, 232, 439, 561, 311,
315,
625; SMMBL 3, Culver
CityBus 6, Torrance Transit 8; LAX Shuttle Line C; LAX Shuttle Line G
from
Green Line
Monterey/Salinas - MST 21
Oakland - AC Transit 58, "AIR-BART" shuttle from BART trains
Ontario - Omnitrans 60, 61; Inland Empire Connection 110
Palm Springs - SunBus 24
Sacramento - Yolobus 42
San Diego - MTS 992
San Francisco - SamTrans 3X, 7B, 7F (7F carries no luggage)
San Jose - VTA 10, VTA shuttle from Light Rail
Santa Ana/Orange County (John Wayne) - OCTA 39, 61, 71, 306
Santa Barbara - MTD 11
COLORADO
Colorado Springs - Springs Transit 11
Denver (International Airport) - RTD 169X; RTD SkyRide AA, AB, AF, AS,
AT
Denver (Stapleton) - RTD 28, 38, 43, 65, 88, 105, 121; RTD SkyRide AB,
AF & AS
FLORIDA
Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood - BCT 1
Miami - MDTA 37, 42, J; Tri Rail feeder shuttle
Orlando - Lynx 11, 41, 42, 51
Pensacola - ECAT 2
Tampa - HARTLine 30
HAWAII
Honolulu - TheBus 19, 20
ILLINOIS
Chicago (Midway) - CTA Orange Line (*), 54B, 55A, 55N, 59, 62H, 63, 63W,
165
Chicago (O' Hare) - CTA Blue Line (*); PACE 270, 330
KENTUCKY
Louisville - TARC 2
LOUISIANA
New Orleans - Jefferson Transit E-2.
MARYLAND
Baltimore (Baltimore Washington Airport) - MTA Light Rail (*), 17
MASSACHUSETTS
Boston (Logan) - MBTA Blue Line, 448, 458, 459
MINNESOTA
Minneapolis-St. Paul - Metro Council Transit 4, 7, 42B, 54, 77
NEVADA
Las Vegas - CAT 108, 109
Reno - Citifare 24
NEW JERSEY
Newark - NJT 37, 62, 67, 107; NJT Airlink 302
NEW MEXICO
Albuquerque - Sun Tran 14, 50
NEW YORK
Buffalo - NFT 24, 30, 68
New York City (JFK) - NYCT Bus B15, Q3, Q10, Port Authority Shuttle to A
Train
New York City (La Guardia) - NYCT Bus M60, Q33, Q48, Q47 to Marine Air
Terminal only
Niagara Falls - NFT 55
OHIO
Akron/Canton - Akron Metro 77X, Canton SARTA 115
Cleveland (Hopkins) - GCRTA Red Line (*)
Columbus - COTA 92
OREGON
Portland - TriMet 12S
PENNSYLVANIA
Philadelphia - SEPTA Regional Rail R1 (*), 37, 108
Pittsburgh - PAT 28X
SOUTH CAROLINA
Columbia - CATS 28
TEXAS
Dallas (Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport) - DART 202, 409
Houston (Bush Intercontinental Airport) - METRO 102
Houston - (Hobby Airport) - METRO 41, 50, 73, 88, 143.
UTAH
Salt Lake City - UTA 50, 53, 56, 59
WASHINGTON
Seattle (SeaTac) - King County Metro 174, 184, 194, 340
Spokane - Spokane Transit 62
WISCONSIN
Milwaukee (Mitchell) - MCTS 80
CANADA
ONTARIO
Ottawa (MacDonald-Cartier) - OC Transpo 96, 97
Toronto - TTC route 58; Mississauga Transit route 7
QUEBEC
Montreal (Dorval) - STCUM route 204 (Cardinal)
WORLDWIDE
AUSTRALIA
Perth - Transperth 200, 201, 202, 208, 209
DENMARK
Copenhagen (Kastrup) - Danish State Railways (*)
FRANCE
Paris (Charles de Gaulle) - RoissyBus
Paris (Orly) - RATP RER C, OrlyBus
NORWAY
Oslo (Gardermoen) - Norway State Railways (*)
POLAND
Warsaw (Okêcie) - (Agency???) 175
SWITZERLAND
Genève (Geneva) - (Agency???) No. 10 Trolleybus
RUSSIA
Moscow - (Agency???) 517
UNITED KINGDOM
London (Heathrow) - London Transport 74, 75, 76, 95, 105, 111, 140, 190,
191,
192, 285,
436, 441, 446, 456, 481, 491, 555, 556, 557, 724, 726, A10, U3; RailAir
(*)
London (London City Airport) - London Transport 69, 101 and 473
*******
6.3: Which stadiums, arenas etc have city bus & train services?
[...]
Contributors: Chris Ledermuller, David Greenberger, Kent Tinkess, Sandy
Smith, Ron Newman, Andrea
Michelle, John Kolassa, David Grabiner, Christopher Rivituso
ARIZONA
Phoenix (Bank One Ballpark) - Valley Metro Red Line, Yellow Line, 7, 580
Phoenix (America West Arena) - Valley Metro Red Line, Yellow Line, 7,
580
Phoenix (Veteran's Memorial Coliseum) - Valley Metro Yellow Line, 17, 19
Phoenix (Municipal Stadium) - Valley Metro Yellow Line, 3, FLASH Lite
Scottsdale (Scottsdale Stadium) - Scottsdale Connection 76
Tempe (Diablo Stadium) - Valley Metro 44, 45, 52, 61 (Sundays only)
Tempe (Sun Devil Stadium at ASU) - Valley Metro Yellow Line, 3
(Saturdays
only), 56, 66, 72, 81,
FLASH Forward, FLASH Back.
ARKANSAS
Little Rock (State House Convention Center) - CAT 4, 7, 10, 13, 18, 21
CALIFORNIA
Anaheim (Arrowhead Pond) - OCTA 50
Anaheim (Edison Internation Field) - OCTA 50
Inglewood (Great Western Forum and Hollywood Park Racetrack/Casino) -
MTA
115, 211, 213, 315, 442
Long Beach (Arena and Convention Center) - MTA 60, 232, Blue Line (*);
Torrance Transit 3, LADOT
142; OCTA 60; Long Beach Transit 1, 5, 7, 21/22/23, 31/32, 46, 61/62,
81,
91/92/93/94, 111/112, 122,
172/173/174, 181/182, 191/192/193/194, Passport A, B, C, D
Long Beach (Pyramid at CSULB) - Long Beach Transit 91/92/93/94, 171,
173,
Passport D
Los Angeles (Convention Center) - MTA 27/28/328, 30/31, 33/333, 56, 70,
81,
427, 442, 444,
445, 446/447, Blue Line (*); LADOT Commuter Express 422/423, 448; LADOT
DASH
A, F
Los Angeles (Exposition Park-Coliseum, Sports Arena, ScienCenter, USC) -
MTA
40/42, 81, 102, 200,
204/354, 442, 444, 445, 446/447; LADOT Commuter Express 422/423, 448;
LADOT
DASH F, Southeast
Oakland (Network Associates Coliseum) - BART (*)
Sacramento (Convention Center) - RT Light Rail (*), 30, 31, 32, 36, 61,
62
San Diego (Convention Center) - San Diego Trolley Orange Line (*), San
Diego
Transit 1
San Diego (Cox Arena) - San Diego Transit 26
San Diego (Qualcomm Stadium) - San Diego Trolley Blue Line (*), San
Diego
Transit 13
San Jose (San Jose Arena) - Caltrain (*)
FLORIDA
Orlando (Orlando Arena) - Lynx Lymmo, 16, 17, 30
Orlando (Orlando Stadium/Citrus Bowl) - Lynx 20, 21, 36
Orlando (Orange County Convention Civic Center) - Lynx 8, 38, 42
GEORGIA
Atlanta (Georgia Dome) - MARTA East-West Line (*), Proctor Creek Line
(*)
ILLINOIS
Chicago (Comiskey Park) - CTA Red Line (*), 24, 35, 39
Chicago (Soldier Field) - CTA Red Line (*), 12, 128 special, 146; Metra
Electric Line (*)
Chicago (United Center) - CTA Brown Line (*), Green Line (*), Orange
Line
(*), Purple Line (*), 19
special (&), 20
Chicago (Stagg Field) - CTA 4, 55
Chicago (Wrigley Field) - CTA Red Line, 8, 22, 152, 154 special (&)
Evanston (Dyche Field) - CTA Purple Line (&)
Rosemont (Rosemont Horizon) - PACE 221 special (&)
INDIANA
Muncie (Convention Center) - MITS 11
KENTUCKY
Louisville (Commonwealth Convention Center) - TARC 1, 2, 4, 6, 15, 17,
18,
19, 21, 23 31, 37, 40, 43,
44, 45, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 60, 61, 63, 64, 66, 68, 69, 70,
71,
73, 77, Free Trolley
Louisville (Kentucky Fair & Expo Center) - TARC 2
MASSACHUSETTS
Boston (Bayside Exposition Center) - MBTA Red Line (*), 8, 16
Boston (Fenway Park) - MBTA Green Line (*), 8, 8A, 47, 55, 57, 60, 65,
CT2,
MBTA Commuter Train
special (*)(&)
Boston (Foxboro Stadium) - MBTA Commuter Train special (&)
Boston (Fleet Center) - MBTA Green Line (*), Orange Line (*), MBTA
Commuter
Rail (*)
Boston (Hynes Convention Center) - MBTA Green Line (*), Orange Line (*),
MBTA
Commuter Rail (&),
1, 55, CT1.
MICHIGAN
Ann Arbor (UofM Stadium) - AATA 7, 14, 16
MINNESOTA
Minneapolis (Convention Center) - Metro Council Transit 10, 26, 29, 35,
37W,
53, 80,
Minneapolis (Hubert H. Humphrey Metrodome) - Metro Council Transit 16,
19,
33, 35, 47, 50, 94B, 94C,
94D, 94H, 94J, 95M, 95U
Minneapolis (Target Center) - 5, 7, 8, 9, 32, 58, 63, 95E, 95M, 95U
NEVADA
Las Vegas (Convention Center) - CAT 108, 112
Las Vegas (Sam Boyd Stadium) - CAT 107, 201A (&)
Las Vegas (Thomas & Mack Center at UNLV) - CAT 108, 109, 201, 213
NEW YORK
Buffalo (Marine Midland Arena) - NFT 8, 14, 16, 36, 45, 74
Buffalo (Rich Stadium) - NFT 14, 42, 72, 80, 90 (&), 91 (&), 92 (&), 93
(&),
94 (&), 95 (&), 96 (&)
New York City (Jacob K. Javits Convention Center) - NYCT M11, M16, M34,
M42
New York City (Madison Square Garden) - NYCT 1 (*), 2 (*), 3 (*), 9 (*),
A
(*), B (*), C (*), D (*), E
(*), F (*), Q (*), N (*), R (*), M4, M6, M7, M10, M16, M34, Q32
New York City (Shea Stadium) - NYCT 7 (*)
New York City (Yankee Stadium) - NYCT 4 (*), C (*), D (*)
OHIO
Cincinnati (Albert Sabin Convention Center) - SORTA 49
Columbus (Greater Columbus Convention Center) - COTA 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 19,
20, 40
OREGON
Portland (Rose Quarter District-Rose Garden Arena, Coliseum, Convention
Center) - TriMet MAX (*),
1G, 4F, 5I, 6, 8F, 10T, 33F, 40M, 63, 70, 74X, 77, 85, 91X, 95X
PENNSYLVANIA
Philadelphia (Convention Center) - SEPTA Market-Frankfort (Blue) Subway
(*),
9, 17, 21, 23, 33, 42, 44,
48, 121, 124, 125; SEPTA Regional Rail R1 (*), R2 (*), R3 (*), R5 (*),
R6
(*), R7 (*)
Philadelphia (CoreStates Center and Spectrum) - SEPTA Broad St. (Orange)
Subway (*), C
Philadelphia (Veterans Stadium) - SEPTA Broad St. (Orange) Subway (*),
C,
special express train (*)(&)
Pittsburgh (Civic Arena) - PAT 81A, 81B, 81C, 84C
TEXAS
Austin (Convention Center) - Capital Metro 3, 5, 17, 21/22, 26
VIRGINIA
Norfolk (Norfolk Scope/Chrysler Hall) - TRT 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 11, 13,
18, 20,
24
WASHINGTON
Seattle (Key Arena) - King County Metro 1, 2, 13, 15, 18
Seattle (Kingdome) - King County Metro 7, 14, 21, 22, 36, 39, 42, 56,
136,
137, 143, 174
WASHINGTON D.C.
Landover, Md. (Jack Kent Cooke Stadium) - Metrorail shuttle bus from
WMATA
Blue and Orange Lines
Washington D.C. (MCI Center) - WMATA Red (*), Yellow (*), Green (*), 42,
70,
71, 73, 80, G8, P6, X2
Washington D.C. (Robert F. Kennedy Stadium) - WMATA Blue (*), Orange
(*), 96,
97, B2, D2, E32
WISCONSIN
Madison (Kohl Center) - Metro 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14,
15,
19, 27, 38, 47, 56, 57, 58, 59,
60, 65
CANADA
BRITISH COLUMBIA
Vancouver (BC Place) - BC Transit Skytrain (*)
Vancouver (GM Place) - BC Transit Skytrain (*)
Vancouver (Nat Bailey Stadium) - BC Transit 3
Vancouver (Swangard Stadium) - BC Transit Skytrain (*)
Vancouver (Trade and Convention Center) - BC Transit Skytrain (*)
QUEBEC
Montreal (Olympic Stadium) - STCUM Metro (*)
WORLDWIDE
FRANCE
Nantes (La Beaujoire) - Semitan Light Rail (*) + bus (lines???)
Paris (Parc des Princes) - RATP Metro 9(*), 22, 66, 72,
Paris (Stade de France) - RATP/SNCF RER B (*), D1(*), 13(*), 139, 153,
173,
255, 302, 350
HUNGARY
Budapest (Nepstadion) - BKV Metro 2 (*)
RUSSIA
Moscow (Dinamo Stadium) - (Agency??) (Lines???)
Moscow (Sportivnaya) - (Agency???) (Lines???)
SWEDEN
Stockholm (Globen) - SL subway (*), System 1 Green Lines, 19, 29, 130
Stockholm (Råsunda) - SL subway (*), System 3 Blue Lines, 11, 177, 505,
509,
515
UNITED KINGDOM
London (Arsenal) - London Underground (*)
London (London Arena) - Docklands Light Railway (*)
Notes:
(*) - Rail service
(&) - Special event service only
ENDS PART SIX
In Toronto, the SkyDome is about 1/2 mile from the subway and GO trains
at Union Station, maybe a little farther. The 510 Spadina streetcar
route passes closer to the stadium.
> Which other stadiums have I left out that have public transportation?
Well, the Air Canada Centre (hockey and basketball) is closer to Union
Station, connected to the GO train part of the station by a foot tunnel
(originally built for mail when there was a postal sorting office on
the site) about one block long.
--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "If any form of pleasure is exhibited, report
m...@vex.net | to me and it will be prohibited." --DUCK SOUP
My text in this article is in the public domain.
Well, I'll be....
Guess I'll have to eat those words I posted about it being one of
those silly bus thingies.
--
David W. Barts (dav...@scn.org) / http://www.scn.org/~davidb
Oakland, CA, USA
> Ron Newman writes:
> > How near are the Toronto, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Denver, Dallas,
> > Atlanta, Miami, St. Louis, and San Diego ballparks to those cities'
> > rail systems?
>
> In Toronto, the SkyDome is about 1/2 mile from the subway and GO trains
> at Union Station, maybe a little farther. The 510 Spadina streetcar
> route passes closer to the stadium.
Do significant number of fans arrive on any of these public transit
systems? Is the 1/2 mile mostly outdoors or indoors? (I recall that
Toronto has a large system of interconnected buildings attached
to its subway system, just like Montreal)
> >From: Ron Newman rne...@thecia.net
> >How near are the Toronto, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Denver, Dallas,
> >Atlanta, Miami, St. Louis, and San Diego ballparks to those cities' rail
> >systems?
>
> In Pittsburgh, Three Rivers Stadium is about a 15 minute walk Gateway Center
> Station.
Do significant numbers of fans arrive by public transit this way?
Is there a shuttle bus for people who don't want to walk?
> Three Rivers Stadium will be replaced next year by two stadia, one for
> baseball and one for football, each near the present stadium site.
Will it be imploded like the Seattle Kingdome was?
>kenj...@aol.com (KenJoseph) wrote:
>> In Pittsburgh, Three Rivers Stadium is about a 15 minute walk Gateway
>Center
>> Station.
>
>Do significant numbers of fans arrive by public transit this way?
Yes, on the odd days when significant numbers of fans show up for a baseball
game.
>Is there a shuttle bus for people who don't want to walk?
Yes, but you must get off at Wood Street,
the stop before Gateway, to transfer to the shuttle bus.
>
>> Three Rivers Stadium will be replaced next year by two stadia, one for
>> baseball and one for football, each near the present stadium site.
>
>Will it be imploded like the Seattle Kingdome was?
I was just wondering about that while I watched the Kingdome implode. I haven't
found an answer yet.
Ken Joseph
Pittsburgh, PA
Very near in Philadelphia. Not near at all in Pittsburgh (wrong side of the
river).
: Which other stadiums have I left out that have public transportation?
Maybe Bridgeport. The tracks run right by the stadium, but I'm not sure how
close the station is.
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> In article <8cm0q8$29en$1...@news.tht.net>, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
>
> > Ron Newman writes:
> > > How near are the Toronto, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Denver, Dallas,
> > > Atlanta, Miami, St. Louis, and San Diego ballparks to those cities'
> > > rail systems?
> >
> > In Toronto, the SkyDome is about 1/2 mile from the subway and GO trains
> > at Union Station, maybe a little farther. The 510 Spadina streetcar
> > route passes closer to the stadium.
>
> Do significant number of fans arrive on any of these public transit
> systems? Is the 1/2 mile mostly outdoors or indoors? (I recall that
> Toronto has a large system of interconnected buildings attached
> to its subway system, just like Montreal)
>
>>> How near are the Toronto, Pittsburgh, [...] ballparks to those
>>> cities' rail systems?
>> In Toronto, the SkyDome is about 1/2 mile from the subway and
>> GO trains at Union Station, maybe a little farther.
The St. Andrew subway stop is actually closer than Union to
SkyDome as the crow flies, though probably about the same distance
via the street grid.
>> The 510 Spadina streetcar route passes closer to the stadium.
The 504 King streetcar also gets a little closer to the stadium
than does the subway.
> Do significant number of fans arrive on any of these public
> transit systems?
When I live in Toronto in the late 1970s - early '80s, large
numbers of fans went to Blue Jays' games via the 511 Bathurst
streetcar to CNE Stadium. I'd be surprised if this weren't
equally true for the SkyDome, but I can't say from firsthand
experience.
GO used to run extra trains on some game days. I think they've
stopped doing so, for budgetary reasons, but I imagine that many
people still use the regular hourly trains to go to and from games.
> Is the 1/2 mile mostly outdoors or indoors?
From Union it's mostly indoors. You go from the subway station
to the intercity/commuter train station, then along an indoor
passageway called the Skywalk. (By the way, this has a glassed-in
portion that goes over the tracks at the west throat of the
approach to Union Station, and is a good place for train watching).
This emerges to the oudoors just east of the CN Tower, and it's
maybe another 200 m outdoors to the SkyDome.
From St. Andrew station there's an underground passageway to the
CBC Broadcast Centre at Front and John Streets, just a block from
SkyDome, but I don't know if this passageway is routinely accessible
at game times.
Tom Box <tb...@igs.net> or <cz...@freenet.carleton.ca>
Ottawa, ON, Canada
Camden Yards (baseball), and the Ravens Stadium (football) in Baltimore
both have a light rail stop right beside the individual stadiums. There
is a Subway station about 4 blocks away also.
S.
>In article <8cm0q8$29en$1...@news.tht.net>, m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:
>
>> Ron Newman writes:
>> > How near are the Toronto, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Denver, Dallas,
>> > Atlanta, Miami, St. Louis, and San Diego ballparks to those cities'
>> > rail systems?
>>
>> In Toronto, the SkyDome is about 1/2 mile from the subway and GO trains
>> at Union Station, maybe a little farther. The 510 Spadina streetcar
>> route passes closer to the stadium.
>
>Do significant number of fans arrive on any of these public transit
>systems? Is the 1/2 mile mostly outdoors or indoors? (I recall that
>Toronto has a large system of interconnected buildings attached
>to its subway system, just like Montreal)
I did that walk when I visited Toronto a couple of years or so ago.
It's outdoors...there's a walkway from Union Station that takes you up
to SkyDome. I don't suspect people are making that walk in the winter
;)
Mike
>From Union it's mostly indoors. You go from the subway station
>to the intercity/commuter train station, then along an indoor
>passageway called the Skywalk. (By the way, this has a glassed-in
>portion that goes over the tracks at the west throat of the
>approach to Union Station, and is a good place for train watching).
>This emerges to the oudoors just east of the CN Tower, and it's
>maybe another 200 m outdoors to the SkyDome.
Oh, I forgot about that. I remembered walking outdoors, but didn't
remember how far it was.
Mike
As for regular service, it's a bit of a walk from Yolobus 42, but a
number of RT lines are just a short walk across the Tower Bridge in
Downtown Sacramento (the nearest being the RT 30/31 in Old Sacramento,
directly at the other end of the bridge from the stadium - I think
there's another line or two at 3rd and Capitol, including the 30/31).
Raley Field, the home of the Sacramento River Cats (Oakland A's AAA
affiliate), is now set to open May 15th.
Mike
>Camden Yards (baseball), and the Ravens Stadium (football) in Baltimore
>both have a light rail stop right beside the individual stadiums. There
>is a Subway station about 4 blocks away also.
Seeing as we've widened the topic to other sports, in Vancouver the SkyTrain
serves GM Place and BC Place (football, what passes for hockey, and what is
alleged to be basketball) with a station named (wait for it) Stadium.
Interestingly enough this station has a 3rd track to handle large crowds, and
arrangements are made to pre-sell tickets for after a game (you couldn't just
buy a ticket before a game as they typically expire in 90 minutes).
Cheers,
dba
I think you hit the nail on the head with the question of whether
significant numbers of fans arrive at the ballparks by public
transportation. The fact is that almost all major stadiums and arenas
have some form of public transit available to them, even in such car
dependent cities as Los Angeles and Houston. People use it if it's
more convenient than driving. In general, if the stadium is surrounded
by acres and acres of parking lots then people will drive to the games.
If parking is difficult or nonexistent at the stadium, they use the
public transportation.
>
> > Three Rivers Stadium will be replaced next year by two stadia, one
for
> > baseball and one for football, each near the present stadium site.
>
> Will it be imploded like the Seattle Kingdome was?
>
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> The fact is that almost all major stadiums and arenas
> have some form of public transit available to them, even in such car
> dependent cities as Los Angeles and Houston.
The folks in la.transportation tell me that there is NO public transit
access to Dodger Stadium. A bus shuttle from Union Station, 1.25 miles away,
would make eminent sense, but there isn't one.
Turner Field in Atlanta is a 0.8 mile walk from the GSU Station
Marta also runs free bus shuttles to/from the 5 Points Station
Both options get significant use
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> When Seattle LINK is built, there will be a stop Near Safeco field, and one
> near the yet un-named football only successor to the Kingdome . The
> Kingdome's successors (Safeco and the football stadium) will also have
> SOUNDER Commuter Rail access (platforms will be built at Safeco field for
> Sounder, and the yet to be built Football stadium is right next to King
> Street Station/Weller St overpass (access to sounder platforms). Also METRO
> transit operates express buses from various park and ride lots to the
> stadiums.
So where are the Seahawks playing while the new football stadium is being
built? Safeco Field? UW Stadium?
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There's a minor league baseball stadium across the street from a stop on
Salt Lake City's new rail line.
Also, I noted the stadium info in Seattle is a bit dated, perhaps someone
can update it for David. Kingdome is no more; Safeco field (baseball) is
new; perhaps add something about service to Husky Stadium at the Univ. of
Washington (where the Seahawks will be playing until a new stadium is
built).
Cynthia
-north of where the Kingdome used to be (what a dusty mess!)
>When Seattle LINK is built, there will be a stop Near Safeco field, and one
>near the yet un-named football only successor to the Kingdome . The
>Kingdome's successors (Safeco and the football stadium) will also have
>SOUNDER Commuter Rail access (platforms will be built at Safeco field for
>Sounder, and the yet to be built Football stadium is right next to King
>Street Station/Weller St overpass (access to sounder platforms). Also METRO
>transit operates express buses from various park and ride lots to the
>stadiums.
Correction: the LRT stop planned for Royal Brougham is currently being
planned; however, it is currently not funded for construction. It's low
priority is due to several reasons: non-event ridership projections are
very low, and it's close to International Station which is two-three blocks
from where the Kingdome was (and the new stadium will be) and perhaps
another 2 or 3 blocks to Safeco field.
The commuter rail station is one block from the new stadium (and a few
blocks from the baseball stadium). They're working on the platforms and
access stairwells/elevators for commuter rail now (including the tie in to
the new pedestrian bridge at Weller street.
After working down here I can vouch that people do walk a good distance to
get to the stadii.
Cynthia
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>--Sandy "the Louisiana Superdome and Cinergy Field appear safe for now" Smith
Cinergy Field (more properly, "Riverfront Stadium" in Cincinnati) is
being replaced, and is not a dome.
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I think they should revive an unfairly-discarded proposal for naming
the baseball stadium, and name the football stadium "Taxpayer Stadium".
> > Kingdome's successors (Safeco and the football stadium) will also have
> > SOUNDER Commuter Rail access (platforms will be built at Safeco field for
> > Sounder, and the yet to be built Football stadium is right next to King
> > Street Station/Weller St overpass (access to sounder platforms). Also METRO
> > transit operates express buses from various park and ride lots to the
> > stadiums.
>
> So where are the Seahawks playing while the new football stadium is being
> built? Safeco Field? UW Stadium?
Your second guess is correct.
I think the "coolest name" award has to go to Dallas. They named their ball
park "The Ball Park".
What was the unfairly-discarded proposal?
Toronto's Skydome is located in walking distance of Union Station (regional
railways), and two stops of the subway (Union Station and St. Michaels
IIRC). The Spadina LRT line passes about one block away with several stops.
Hockey and basketball are at Air Canada Place, which is also in walking
distance of Union Station and directly adjoins the Spadina LRT.
Vancouver's Dome (football) is on the SkyTrain line, with its own station,
that also serves GM Place (Hockey and basketball). Baseball has bus service
within a few blocks but no "mass transit". Soccer (Swangard Stadium) is on
the ALRT too.
Edmonton's LRT serves Commonwealth Stadium (football and track), the
SkyReach Centre (hockey and indoor soccer). The baseball stadium (Telus
Field) is hall well served by buses. That is to say, there are shuttles to
it from the CBD and buses crossing the river from the South pass nearby, but
only one SouthBOUND bus route serves it directly. (There are parkihg
shuttles as there is only a small amout of parking.) There is a three block
walk downhill from the Government Centre transit station (which connects bia
tunnel to the Grandin LRT station.)
By the way, there is NO fan parking at Commonwealth Stadium. The 58,000 fans
almost all come on foot or by transit. (There are park-n-ride shuttles from
lots on highway approaches.) Neighbourhood parking controls are rigorously
enforced - residents have stickers to identify their vehicles as allowed to
park on the street. Some residents rent out parking on their home's site to
casual parkers.
Calgary's football stadium is a few blocks from LRT stations. The Saddle
Dome (hockey and indoor soccer) is a short walk from the LRT. I am not sure
where they play baseball, but they do have a triple A team.
Winnipeg has only buses, but the stadia and rink are near transit centres.
Montreal does not use the "big Owe" for many sports. Football is at McGill
University stadium (Metro McGill), Hockey is at Molson Place (directly
connected to Windsor station (commuter rail and Metro)). Baseball is
currently in the Olympic stadium, but the team wants to move next door to
Molson Place, with a smaller purpose built park.
>
>Which other stadiums have I left out that have public transportation?
>
>Montreal does not use the "big Owe" for many sports. Football is at McGill
>University stadium (Metro McGill)
Let's be fair here, that's one hell of a hike (and straight up to boot) One
would be better off on a Pine St. bus....
>> Now that baseball season has started in the USA and Canada, could
>> someone please repost the list of ballparks that have public
>> transportation?
>> How near are the Toronto ballparks to those cities' rail
>> systems?
>
> Toronto's Skydome is located in walking distance of Union Station
> (regional railways), and two stops of the subway (Union Station and
> St. Michaels IIRC).
Union and St. Andrew stations. Since St. Michael is not the patron
of any nation of the British Isles, he doesn't get a subway station
named after him. The TTC also shows its flagrant anti-Welsh bias
by failing to have a St. David station, though it does have
St. Andrew, St. Patrick, and St. George.
> The Spadina LRT line passes about one block away with several stops.
As already mentioned in this thread, the 504 King streetcar also
comes closer to the Skydome than does the subway.
> Hockey and basketball are at Air Canada Place,
Nitpick: it's the Air Canada Centre.
> which is also in walking distance of Union Station and directly
> adjoins the Spadina LRT.
But the LRT is in its tunnel under Bay Street when it passes by the
arena, and I don't think there's a stop closer than the one at
Union Station. You can get from Union Station to the rink without
going outdoors. It's a shorter walk from the GO trains than from
the subway.
> Vancouver's Dome (football) is on the SkyTrain line, with its
> own station, that also serves GM Place (Hockey and basketball).
> Baseball has bus service within a few blocks but no "mass transit".
Vancouver's Triple-A baseball team left town at the end of last
season. Has a replacement been found?
> Winnipeg has only buses, but the stadia and rink are near transit
> centres.
But Winnipeg's NHL team has moved to Phoenix.
Since we're onto the topic of bus transit, I'll mention that
here in Ottawa, the Corel Centre (hockey) is in darkest suburbia.
Regular bus service doesn't go there, but there are special buses
when there's a hockey game or other event there.
JetForm Park (triple-A baseball) is quite close to Ottawa's
VIA Rail (intercity trains) station, but the two are separated
by a freeway, and though there are overpasses that will allow you
to get from the station to the park, it's not a very inviting walk.
Colin's beloved Transitway has a stop right at the railway station,
so there's very frequent bus service, but this too is on the other
side of the freeway from the ballpark.
Lansdowne Park (football) has regular bus routes nearby, but
Ottawa's pro football team has folded.
> Montreal does not use the "big Owe" for many sports.
That's the Olympic Stadium, which earned its nickname for
its huge cost overruns.
> Football is at McGill University stadium
Called Molson Stadium. Named not for the beer, but for a
member of the brewing family who was killed in World War I.
> (Metro McGill),
It's close to a kilometre from the metro station to the stadium,
almost all outdoors and all uphill. (As a McGill alumnus, I speak
from experience.) The 144 bus goes right by the stadium, along
Pine Avenue.
> Hockey is at Molson Place
Another nitpick: Molson Centre (le Centre Molson, en français).
This one *is* named for the beer.
> (directly connected to Windsor station (commuter rail and Metro))
Commuter trains stop right next to the rink. It's midway between
two metro stops (Bonaventure and Lucien-L'Allier), both on the orange
line. There are indoor passageways between both stations and the
arena, but the passage to Bonaventure is closed when there are
events at the arena, since the passageway doesn't have enough
emergency exits to handle large crowds. It's an easy walk to
the station at street level.
> Baseball is currently in the Olympic stadium,
Which has direct metro service, to Pie-IX station on the green line.
> but the team wants to move next door to
> Molson Place, with a smaller purpose built park.
To be named Labatt Park, after Molson's main rival in the beer
business. It won't be quite as convenient to transit as the
hockey rink. Home plate will be at Mountain and Notre-Dame Streets,
about 0.5 km from the Lucien-L'Allier metro station, and the centre
field bleachers will be at Peel and St-Jacques Streets, about 0.3 km
from the Bonaventure metro.
> Union and St. Andrew stations. Since St. Michael is not the patron
> of any nation of the British Isles, he doesn't get a subway station
> named after him.
But he does get the honor of having everything Marks & Spencer sells named
for him.
(That is, everything Marks & Spencer sells in stores named Marks & Spencer.
Everything they sell in stores named Brooks Brothers bears that name,
except at Christmastime.)
> Another nitpick: Molson Centre (le Centre Molson, en français).
> This one *is* named for the beer.
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>Vancouver's Triple-A baseball team left town at the end of last
>season. Has a replacement been found?
I think they put in a single-A team at Nat Bailey Field to replace the
old Canadians, who moved down here to Sacramento, CA and are now the
Sacramento River Cats.
Their ballpark, Raley Field in nearby West Sacramento, is about 2
weeks and change away from opening. It has a Yolobus line or two on
either side of it, though it's a short walk across the Tower Bridge to
a bunch of Sacramento Regional Transit lines in Sacramento itself.
And RT, the city of Sacramento and the team will likely run shuttle
buses to Raley Field during River Cats' home games. (The city voted
to fund this recently, and I assume the other two parties are on
board...so to speak! ;)
For rail - Raley Field is about a 7 block walk, approximately, from
Regional Transit's St. Rose of Lima Park light rail station.
Mike
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