bicycles on buses

[botw...@saturn.rowan.edu]

How many locations allow bikes inside or on racks outside buses?
Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] mil...@aol.com
POB 13464 Philadelphia, PA 19101-3464
phone #609-869-0368 phone #215-925-0379

[Ed Ravin]

From somewhere in cyberspace, dan...@panix.com (Daniel Convissor) said:

>The Bronx-Whitestone Bridge is operated by the Triborough Bridge and
>Tunnel Authority, a subsidiary of the Metropolitan Transprotation Authority,
>and had its bike/pedestrian path removed several years ago.

"several" years ago? Dan, try 1948, which is more like 46 years ago. The
path was removed as part of the construction which widened the roadway to
three lanes in each direction, and increased the strength of the bridge
structure (in response to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse).
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[Lynn Eric Rosenberg]

botw...@saturn.rowan.edu wrote:
: How many locations allow bikes inside or on racks outside buses?

: Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] mil...@aol.com
: POB 13464 Philadelphia, PA 19101-3464
: phone #609-869-0368 phone #215-925-0379

I forgot to say that Santa Cruz Met. Transit District also has bike racks
on the back of most of their buses.

Eric Rosenberg - San Jose, CA

[Benjamen J Wichser]

In article <1994Jul30...@saturn.rowan.edu>
botw...@saturn.rowan.edu writes:

> How many locations allow bikes inside or on racks outside buses?
> Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] mil...@aol.com

Portland, OR's Tri-Met now has bike racks on almost all the buses that
can carry them (the buses that look more or less like bubbles
supposedly can't carry a rack! :-( ) Furthermore, bikes are allowed on
MAX (Portland's LRT) (1 bike for a 1-car train or 3 bikes on a 2-car
train) except on the "right way" during rush hour (into Portland in the
AM, to Gresham in the PM). While I haven't used this service, I
believe that you need to pay about $6/year for a bike pass and watch a
little instruction video.
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[Justin Klein]

In <1994Jul30...@saturn.rowan.edu> botw...@saturn.rowan.edu writes:

> How many locations allow bikes inside or on racks outside buses?

Here in Portland OR, Tri-Met provides no in-bus space for bikes,
however, our light-rail transit line, MAX, allows bikes on board.

What's interesting about it is that since there's no tie- or
clamp-points on the trains, you wind up standing, bracing your
bike against the wall while holding on to a stanchion.

In this way each MAX vehicle carries two bikes if a one-car train
(the operator is required egress from the operator's comparment),
and six on a two car (two in the first, four in the second).

Hey, for a supposedly bike-conscious city like Portland, it's
not much. But it's a start. I remain optimistic...

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[George Farnsworth]

Washington DC's Metrorail allows bikes in the last car only on weekends
and after 7pm and STARTING NOW, 10am - 2pm weekdays.

On 30 Jul 94 11:20:10 EST botw...@saturn.rowan.edu posted:
: How many locations allow bikes inside or on racks outside buses?

[Lewis J Derose]

In Atlanta, bikes aren't allowed on busses yet, but the MARTA
(Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority) heavy-rail system allows
them on the subway - any train, any car, anytime. The only "rule" is,
"Please don't try to shove a bike into a crowded rail car."

--Joe (Atlanta)

[Gene]

On 30 Jul 94 11:20:10 EST, botw...@saturn.rowan.edu <botw...@saturn.rowan.edu> wrote:
:) How many locations allow bikes inside or on racks outside buses?

Here in Boston, bikes are not allowed on buses or Green Line trolleys at
any time. However they are allowed on the other subway lines during
certain hours. They are also allowed on the Commuter Rail anytime, with
the exception of Rush Hour where you have to be travelling in the
opposite direction.

--Gene
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[Mark Panitz]

lets see, I know that in San Diego County (on both North county and
San Digeo Transit have bike racks on their buses
in LA, Metrolink allows bicycles on their trains, as does the Blue Line
(during non rush hours, and MTA has a bike racks on only on of their line
(Line 130 from Redond Beach to Fullerton via Artiesta)
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[Doug Price]

In article <31es07$5...@netnews.upenn.edu>, shec...@dolphin.upenn.edu (Katherine A Shecora-Mayer) says:
>
>botw...@saturn.rowan.edu wrote:
>: How many locations allow bikes inside or on racks outside buses?

>: Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist] mil...@aol.com
>: POB 13464 Philadelphia, PA 19101-3464
>: phone #609-869-0368 phone #215-925-0379
>
>

>About five years ago, when I lived in San Diego, I recall that bike racks
>were available on the back of the Fashion Valley/UCSD, SDSU/Pacific Beach,
>and the Mission Beach buses.

Once, after telling the driver on the San Diego Mission Beach line,
"I need to get my bike off the back," the driver still drove away!
...and these drivers in LA think they deserve _more_ money!?!
Luckily he had to slow down briefly, and I got a good loud kick in on
the side of the bus.

Also, the racks were cruddy with no padding. OK for my junky beach
cruiser, but not good if you care about a paint job.

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[David L Miller]

Seattle has some buses with racks on the front. Bikes are allowed inside on
other buses at the discretion of the driver. Community Transit in snohomish
county was experimenting with racks on some runs, but I haven't looked for
them after the "trial period."

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[charles hobbs]

Other Southern California properties w/bike racks:
Orange County Transit Authority: Lines #35,38,50,308 and 309
Riverside Transit Authority: Most lines operated with full size buses
Ventura Intercity Service Transit Authority: All lines.

I'm not quite sure I'm crazy about bikes *inside* buses--I'd rather
the seats be filled with *people*. But I do encourage bike racks on
buses.

I think Golden Gate Transit allows bikes on its #40 between Richmond
and San Rafael. Two bikes can be placed in the wheelchair space of
each bus (which get the boot if the space is needed or the bus gets too
full)

[charles hobbs]

In a previous article, do...@dwp.la.ca.us (Doug Price) says:

>
>Once, after telling the driver on the San Diego Mission Beach line,
>"I need to get my bike off the back," the driver still drove away!
>...and these drivers in LA think they deserve _more_ money!?!

San Diego is *not* LA . . .I don't think the drivers of the two systems
even belong to the same union . . .

[Doug Price]

>...and these drivers in LA think they deserve _more_ money!?!
>
>San Diego is *not* LA . . .I don't think the drivers of the two systems
>even belong to the same union . . .

...'Twas just a comment on bus drivers skills/attitudes/salaries...

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[Lewis J Derose]

A question for those of us who live is cities without bike racks on the
busses: Can you lock the bikes to the busses or do they just hang
there? If you CAN lock them, is the time it takes to do so a problem?
If you CAN'T, is there a problem with theft?

--Joe (Atlanta)

[Dave Burchell]

Phoenix, AZ, buses have racks on the fronts with room for two bikes.

botw...@saturn.rowan.edu wrote:
> How many locations allow bikes inside or on racks outside buses?

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[Justin Klein]

lde...@cc.emory.edu (Lewis J Derose) writes:

> A question for those of us who live is cities without bike racks on the
> busses: Can you lock the bikes to the busses or do they just hang
> there?

Bike racks I've had experience come in two types: ones that you hang the
on, and ones that hold the wheels in a rail and support the down tube in
a clamp which swivels up from the rail.

I know of no bike rack, offhand, that the user "locks" the bike into.

> If you CAN'T, is there a problem with theft?

If some idiot tries to take my 2-wheeler off a bike rack on the front
of a bus, where both me and a driver can watch, he'll have something coming
to him.

On the other hand, if someone takes my bike off while the coach is
acutally in motion, he just might need it more than I do.

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[Christopher Scurlock]

The transit system in Phoenix, AZ installed bike racks on busses a few years
ago (about 3). It has been one of the *few* things they've done right as
far as transit.