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Jack

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Jun 17, 2004, 10:55:29 PM6/17/04
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Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using a four inch
nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over and tightening, throw it
over and then go under and then over creating an overhand sinch? Is it
legal and do you
know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my question but
maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.


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Rocky Roads

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Jun 17, 2004, 11:32:56 PM6/17/04
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Jack wrote in message ...

>Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using a four inch
>nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over and tightening, throw it
>over and then go under and then over creating an overhand sinch? Is it
>legal and do you
>know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my question but
>maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.

I talked to someone that drives a flatbed and that sort of sounds like what
he refers to as a "Belly Strap."


Richard

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Jun 18, 2004, 12:09:51 AM6/18/04
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"Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message
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No that's not a "belly strap".
That's generally used on stuff like pipe. One strap goes over the top pipes,
then another goes through the center. Depends on how they're stacked.


Richard

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Jun 18, 2004, 12:13:49 AM6/18/04
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"Jack" <Admira...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using a four inch
> nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over and tightening, throw it
> over and then go under and then over creating an overhand sinch? Is it
> legal and do you
> know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my question but
> maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.
>

Under extreme load conditions, that kind of securing would break apart.
With all the road vibrations and other factors, it would loosen up in a
hurry.
That's why flatbeds check their straps every time they stop.
Even chains will loosen.

Chances are, if an inspector caught you with that, he'd probably cite you
for improper securement of load.
In my years of being on the road, I have never seen that done anywhere.


informant

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Jun 18, 2004, 4:20:13 AM6/18/04
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"Richard" <Anon...@137.001> wrote in message
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<splorf> A few days a year doesn't count, St00pid. Trip report for 2004?

I have never seen that done anywhere.

Then, of course it doesn't exist.


Jack

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Jun 18, 2004, 9:26:55 AM6/18/04
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I have seen it done before many times securing something round. I don't
think I explained it correctly. It's like taking a piece of string and
wrapping it around your finger one time.

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Richard

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Jun 18, 2004, 11:05:21 AM6/18/04
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"Jack" <Admira...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I have seen it done before many times securing something round. I don't
> think I explained it correctly. It's like taking a piece of string and
> wrapping it around your finger one time.
>

What you're describing now sounds more like a "Johnny knot".
That's generally used in ropes, not straps or chains.
Using that kind of knot allows you to untie it with a simple tug.
Kind of like the shoe string tie.

Any time you put a loop like that in a strap, weakens the effectiveness of
the strap.

Technically, if you have like a steel coil on a pallet, you toss one chain
over the top, then two crisscrossed around the base.

If you're looking at steel coils, and see two or three chains going through
the eye, that's perfectly normal. They may appear to be twisted, but they
are not.

I've never seen anyone use anything that reaches under the trailer itself.


realitytrucker

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Jun 18, 2004, 4:45:16 PM6/18/04
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"Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message news:<IntAc.462$OB3...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...


"I talked to a guy, who knows a guy, who's uncle's 3d ex-wife's cousin
saw this once...".

Yep, he's turning into a full fledged Bullis. What a shame that
someone asks a legitimate question and these two non-truckdrivers
(Bullis and Rookie) have to be the first to jump in with their
bullshit.

Although I have driven a flatbed I am not familiar with the strapping
the original poster described. But did I start posting in response?
NO! Because I know enough to keep my mouth shut and hands off the
keyboard when I don't know what I am talking about. Yet it seems
that Rookie and Bullis always have to put respond. I am convinced
that neiher has so much as been INSIDE a Class 8 commercial motor
vehicle, let alone driven one .

The sad part about it is: they'll NEVER go away. They thrive on
seeing their name on a computer monitor. So sad, so pathetic.

realitytrucker

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Jun 18, 2004, 4:48:34 PM6/18/04
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"Jack" <Admira...@aol.com> wrote in message news:<BrmdnYr5epD...@comcast.com>...

Jack, if you listen to ANYTHING these two idiots "Rocky" and "Richard"
Bullis have to say you're just going to get totally erroneous
information and be more confused. There are plenty more experiemced
truckdrivers in this group who will be glad to correctly answer your
questions.

Rocky Roads

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Jun 18, 2004, 5:55:43 PM6/18/04
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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> "I talked to a guy, who knows a guy, who's uncle's 3d ex-wife's cousin
> saw this once...".
>
> Yep, he's turning into a full fledged Bullis. What a shame that
> someone asks a legitimate question and these two non-truckdrivers
> (Bullis and Rookie) have to be the first to jump in with their
> bullshit.
>

If I am turning into a full fledged Bullis, surely you must be jealous. You
just wish you could be as well off as Bullis is. I'm envious of the fact
that he can work as little or as much as he wants to. Being financially
independent must be a nice thing.

> Although I have driven a flatbed I am not familiar with the strapping
> the original poster described. But did I start posting in response?
> NO! Because I know enough to keep my mouth shut and hands off the
> keyboard when I don't know what I am talking about. Yet it seems
> that Rookie and Bullis always have to put respond. I am convinced
> that neiher has so much as been INSIDE a Class 8 commercial motor
> vehicle, let alone driven one .
>

What ever you say little boy. Even if we don't have the actual experience
in what the poster was referring to, trucking isn't exactly rocket science.
Both Richard and I have the brains to answer most any question posted in
here just by doing a little bit of simple research.

> The sad part about it is: they'll NEVER go away. They thrive on
> seeing their name on a computer monitor. So sad, so pathetic.

That's not it at all in my case. I just need something to pass the time
while I'm getting my required 10 hours off each day. If I'm not starting
something on the CB, you'll find me in the truckstop game room or posting to
usenet.

SO PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT REALITYPHUCKER THE QUEER!


Rocky Roads

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Jun 18, 2004, 7:13:36 PM6/18/04
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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Oh RT, or is this Dave R? Heck, I am getting confused, I thought it was
Dave R that didn't think I drove a truck and now you are posting like that?

As for Richard. He said my company could take my sign on bonus. Well, I
now know someone else from the same company that is trying to get his back.
If he can get his back, I should be able to get mine back. I should get a
phone call from him sooner or later with numbers of different people he has
contacted.


Morgan V. Wooten

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Jun 18, 2004, 11:13:34 PM6/18/04
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Before collapsing in a drunken stupor "Jack"
<Admira...@aol.com> managed to mumble the following:

> Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using
> a four inch nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over
> and tightening, throw it over and then go under and then over
> creating an overhand sinch? Is it legal and do you
> know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my
> question but maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.
>
>

It's called choke strapping. I used to use it on loads of bar and
pipe. Nothing else. Doesn't work well on square steel or beam and
channel as you can never get the straps tight enough to
accomplish anything. All it does is pull all the bars together.
The other straps that go up and over actually pull it down to the
bed.


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Richard

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Jun 19, 2004, 12:23:14 AM6/19/04
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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I have. Along with a CDL Class A and hazmat.
My very first job was with a flatbed company.
Ever heard of Compass?
Worked a week with them and decided that was not my cup of tea.

From what the OP was asking, his technique is basically a disaster waiting
to happen.


Skateboard'n

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Jun 19, 2004, 12:58:09 AM6/19/04
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"Jack" <Admira...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using a four inch
> nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over and tightening, throw it
> over and then go under and then over creating an overhand sinch? Is it
> legal and do you
> know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my question but
> maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.

Not only is it legal, you best be doing it to at least a few of your straps
when you load pipe or cold roll rod & a few other things that would warrant
it.

If it's a tall load of pipe, do this with a couple of straps every so often
as they load it. That way the bottom of your load stays put & gives you a
good base for your load.

I loaded 49,500 lb's of pipe the other day in Houston, 4" pipe with a 5/8"
wall & 5" pipe with 3/4" wall, I did this to all 7 of my straps.

When you do this, put the straps across the deck before the trailer gets
loaded, don't drag then under after it's loaded. Then all you have to do is
toss each end of the strap back across to the other side.


Tom


Skateboard'n

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Jun 19, 2004, 1:02:14 AM6/19/04
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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
> Yep, he's turning into a full fledged Bullis. What a shame that
> someone asks a legitimate question and these two non-truckdrivers
> (Bullis and Rookie) have to be the first to jump in with their
> bullshit.

What's really sad is, that the two them(or are they one & the same? No
driver has as much time on their hands as these 1-2 seem to have all the
time. ) have to keep changing their ident's so they can slip past
everybody's kill files, just to get the attention.

Tom


realitytrucker

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Jun 19, 2004, 1:04:16 AM6/19/04
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"Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message news:<10875957...@ftp1.boidmz.fiberpipe.net>...

> "realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:8a7d8469.04061...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > "I talked to a guy, who knows a guy, who's uncle's 3d ex-wife's cousin
> > saw this once...".
> >
> > Yep, he's turning into a full fledged Bullis. What a shame that
> > someone asks a legitimate question and these two non-truckdrivers
> > (Bullis and Rookie) have to be the first to jump in with their
> > bullshit.
> >
>
> If I am turning into a full fledged Bullis, surely you must be jealous. You
> just wish you could be as well off as Bullis is. I'm envious of the fact
> that he can work as little or as much as he wants to. Being financially
> independent must be a nice thing.

Hey, dipshit, there's a helluva difference between being "financially
independant" and being unemployed and living off the state and
relatives handouts. Once your mommy and daddy kick you out and you
are forced to get a job you'll understand


>
> > Although I have driven a flatbed I am not familiar with the strapping
> > the original poster described. But did I start posting in response?
> > NO! Because I know enough to keep my mouth shut and hands off the
> > keyboard when I don't know what I am talking about. Yet it seems
> > that Rookie and Bullis always have to put respond. I am convinced
> > that neiher has so much as been INSIDE a Class 8 commercial motor
> > vehicle, let alone driven one .
> >
>
> What ever you say little boy. Even if we don't have the actual experience
> in what the poster was referring to, trucking isn't exactly rocket science.

How would you know about trucking? You don't drive, Sweetie. I doubt
there is one regular poster in this group that truly believes you
drive a truck for a living. You spend way too much time on your
little computer to be a driver.
Just like Bullis, you are constantly online. When someone posts a
trucking related question you two hop on the old keyboard to try to
"research" and find an answer to the question. Your attempts fail
miserably. Both of you post IDIOTIC advice that would only get a
legitimate driver arrested or worse, killed or seriously injured.

> Both Richard and I have the brains to answer most any question posted in
> here just by doing a little bit of simple research.

Oh, horseshit! You and your idol don't have ANY brains to speak of.
You both just like to run your mouths regardless of whether you know
any thing about the subject or not.


>
> > The sad part about it is: they'll NEVER go away. They thrive on
> > seeing their name on a computer monitor. So sad, so pathetic.
>
> That's not it at all in my case. I just need something to pass the time
> while I'm getting my required 10 hours off each day. If I'm not starting
> something on the CB, you'll find me in the truckstop game room or posting to
> usenet.

Try SLEEPING, you moron. Thats what its for...REST, SLEEPING..NOT
getting online and making a further ass out yourself.


> SO PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT REALITYPHUCKER THE QUEER!

I don't smoke a pipe, Sweetie. Face it, simpleton, you're an ass, a
pedophile admirer, and a ROOKIE! Always will be . You take the word
of every jerk on the CB or hanging around a truckstop parking lot as
the gospel truth. Is THAT your idea of research? Or is it pounding a
few keys on a computer keyboard? Not a whole lot better than the CB
in my opinion. Yet when an EXPERIENCED driver in a trucking
newsgropup tries to give you some good advice you start calling names
and acting like a five year old.
So keep trying, Sweetie, all you do is make yourself look worse with
every single post. It is REALLY baffling to me and the others here in
MTT why you and Bullis continue to make these outrageous claims that
get shot to pieces as soon as they are posted. Don't you get tired of
looking like a fool constantly? Don't you realize that, if all of us
in this group just happened to end up, physically, in the same place
at the exact same time at least 10 people among us would immediately
seek out you and Bullis for the simple purpose of kicking your sorry,
lying little asses? Does it bother you at all that so many people,
whom you've never met face to face, hate your freaking guts? No, I
imagine not. You two are like twins.

And my last question(s), Sweetie, as I've asked before but you were
too much of a coward to answer: Why do you still post here when you
have lost any credibility you may have had. Pretty much everyone here
1) has killfiled you, 2) ignores your pathetic ass or 3) harasses the
living shit out of you. Why continue to post to a group where 95% of
the posters don't like you. Are you so afraid you'll lose contact
with Bullis if you leave?

informant

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Jun 19, 2004, 1:30:39 AM6/19/04
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"Richard" <Anon...@127.001> wrote in message
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I thought it was North American Van Lines, Bullis? ARCHIVED

> Worked a week with them and decided that was not my cup of tea.

And so it began, and the pattern was set.

> From what the OP was asking, his technique is basically a disaster waiting
> to happen.

Based on your one week of experience 20 years ago.


Cainman

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Jun 19, 2004, 2:40:23 AM6/19/04
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"informant" <x...@yyy.zzz> wrote in message
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I would be willing to bet that Bullis opened his big mouth and tried to tell
his boss on how the company should be run and how his co-workers were being
assholes due to not living up to what he thought the company should be and
as a result Bullis was quietly swept under the rug, told to take his
belongings, and get the fuck out. The cycle began, and continues to this
day. Thank God Bullis is such an idiot...him in ANY position of management
would mean almost immediate bankruptcy or massive fines for whatever company
was gullible enough to place him there.

Rocky Roads

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Jun 19, 2004, 4:50:50 AM6/19/04
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Realitytrucker. You really should learn to read message headers. You have
had the wool pulled over your eyes again and all I can say is, you were not
talking to me on your last post.

You are so wrapped in in using the word "sweetie" that you will use it on
anybody.

Here, this is from the post you replied to:

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Rocky Roads

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Jun 19, 2004, 4:55:17 AM6/19/04
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"Skateboard'n" <trashyst...@amillnear.you> wrote in message
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Oh Tom,

You are very bright. You are right, I did not have the time or the ability
to make 3 or 4 of those post from yesterday.

Why did you stop there? You know Zčke has posted with the "Rocky Roads"
name before, why didn't you stop to take the time and see it was done again?

You people are so gullible.


Rocky Roads

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Jun 19, 2004, 5:02:42 AM6/19/04
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"Richard" <Anon...@137.001> wrote in message
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Richard, it all depends on who you are talking to.

Your mission Jim, should you decide to accept it is, find a URL that says
what a Belly Strap is.

FYI I did a quick check on
http://newbiedriver.com
and
google.com
and didn't find anything.


Message has been deleted

truckinsp

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Jun 19, 2004, 11:27:11 AM6/19/04
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>> "Richard" <Anon...@137.001> wrote in message
>> news:catq4...@news3.newsguy.com...
>> > Under extreme load conditions, that kind of securing would break apart.
>> > With all the road vibrations and other factors, it would loosen up in a
>> > hurry.
>> > That's why flatbeds check their straps every time they stop.
>> > Even chains will loosen.
>> >
>> > Chances are, if an inspector caught you with that, he'd probably cite
you
>> > for improper securement of load.
>> > In my years of being on the road, I have never seen that done anywhere.

MORE BULLISHIT....
We do not have a problem with overhand cinches......sometimes that is the
only way to secure an odd shaped item to the trailer.... not everything is
designed to fit flat to a trailer deck, even with blocking and
bracing......we only require that the straps or chains be tight....and if
you are checking your load every 150 miles, that should be no problem....


Jack

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Jun 19, 2004, 11:32:47 AM6/19/04
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Thank you very much!!!!!

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able to control my own.......

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realitytrucker

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Jun 19, 2004, 1:21:19 PM6/19/04
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"Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message news:<cb0ujf$r...@library2.airnews.net>...

Gu;;ible? Us? This coming from someone who takes everything Bullis
say as fact when he's been proven a notorious liar time and time
again? This same "person" who believes everything some clown tells
him on the CB or in a truckstop? ROTFLMAO!

Rocky Roads

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Jun 19, 2004, 1:30:27 PM6/19/04
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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I have been waiting to see that happen. To bad you are not one of those
"more experienced truck drivers in this group" that could answer him. ;-)

You even have problems with "Message Headers." I'd hate to see you ever try
to hook or unhook a trailer, because that might be way over your head. ;-)


Rocky Roads

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Jun 19, 2004, 1:42:03 PM6/19/04
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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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You were the most gullible. Go back and check the message headers of some
of the post on this thread. You used a lot of your time calling some
stranger "Sweetie." Now I'll have to call you "Realitytrucker the Lot
Lizard."


Rocky Roads

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Jun 19, 2004, 1:55:21 PM6/19/04
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"Morgan V. Wooten" <mvwo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Before collapsing in a drunken stupor "Jack"
> <Admira...@aol.com> managed to mumble the following:
>
> > Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using
> > a four inch nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over
> > and tightening, throw it over and then go under and then over
> > creating an overhand sinch? Is it legal and do you
> > know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my
> > question but maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.
> >
> >
>
> It's called choke strapping. I used to use it on loads of bar and
> pipe. Nothing else. Doesn't work well on square steel or beam and
> channel as you can never get the straps tight enough to
> accomplish anything. All it does is pull all the bars together.
> The other straps that go up and over actually pull it down to the
> bed.


Thank you for your answer.


Morgan V. Wooten

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Jun 19, 2004, 3:50:42 PM6/19/04
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Before collapsing in a drunken stupor "Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot>
managed to mumble the following:

>
>

> Thank you for your answer.
>
>
>

Sure. As my first dispatcher used to end every phone call: "Not a
problem buddy, you be safe out there okay?". My god I heard that so
many times I'll never get it out of my head. :P

Skateboard'n

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Jun 19, 2004, 4:58:22 PM6/19/04
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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
> Gu;;ible? Us? This coming from someone who takes everything Bullis
> say as fact when he's been proven a notorious liar time and time
> again? This same "person" who believes everything some clown tells
> him on the CB or in a truckstop? ROTFLMAO!

Huh?

What "someone"? You need to check your facts & get back with me.

Looks like your "reality" is pretty cloudy !


Tom


Cainman

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Jun 19, 2004, 7:08:41 PM6/19/04
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"Meat-->Plow" <Me...@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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> LOL. Rocky and Richard Bullis. The Bullis brothers.

Rocky Roads = a Larry Bullis sockpuppet?

realitytrucker

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Jun 19, 2004, 7:41:47 PM6/19/04
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"Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message news:<cb0ub5$g...@library2.airnews.net>...

Still sidestepping. Why won't you answer the question? Why are you
still here posting?

realitytrucker

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Jun 19, 2004, 7:43:17 PM6/19/04
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"Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message news:<cb1sp9$v...@library2.airnews.net>...

Even though I do not drive commercially anymore I am positive I could
drive circles around your sorry ass.

Rocky Roads

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Still sidestepping. Why won't you answer the question? Why are you
> still here posting?


Sidestepping? Since when am I supposed to answer a post where you replied
to someone else? FYI you have yelled at me for doing something like that
before.


Rocky Roads

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Meat-->Plow wrote in message ...

>LOL. Rocky and Richard Bullis. The Bullis brothers.

FYI There are two maybe more Rocky's on this NG.

The "Other" Rocky sure gets the idiots to stand out when they fail to notice
his fraud.


Jack

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Jun 20, 2004, 12:01:23 AM6/20/04
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Thank you very much for your input. Greatly appreciated.

--
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I find it a waste of time trying to control others ignorance when I'm rarely
able to control my own.......

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realitytrucker

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"Skateboard'n" <trashyst...@amillnear.you> wrote in message news:<ON1Bc.9108$Yb1....@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>...


I checked my facts, Tom, and I can confirm that the "someone" I was
referring to was that lil Sweetie: Rocky, Rookie, 0,
Dreamweaver....take your pick of the latest name.

BIg Bird

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I'm so Happy that you no longer work for compass/falcon... it figures that a
looser like you could only last a week

"Richard" <Anon...@127.001> wrote in message
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BIg Bird

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Jun 20, 2004, 5:32:03 PM6/20/04
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when securing rolls of steel wire you run a strap thru the center of the
coil around the back and thru the center again to pull the coil tight......

"Richard" <Anon...@137.001> wrote in message
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>
> "Jack" <Admira...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using a four
inch
> > nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over and tightening, throw
it
> > over and then go under and then over creating an overhand sinch? Is it
> > legal and do you
> > know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my question
but
> > maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.
> >
>

Rocky Roads - Post #7

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Too bad we will never have a backing up contest or a Who can come closest to
the curb without hitting it contest.

BTW This is my first time posing with the laptop on the steering wheel. I
had to do that so I could get the cellphone high enough for a signal.

Zekč


Jay Dee

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Jun 21, 2004, 1:09:23 PM6/21/04
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Richard said: My very first job was with a flatbed company. Ever heard
of Compass?
Worked a week with them and decided that was not my cup of tea.


And that one week of experience where more then likely you didnt haul
any thing other then lumber and maybe beams , you know it all huh
bullis? Your a Jack ass To the letter S at the end,

Jack

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Jun 22, 2004, 8:50:56 PM6/22/04
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Right on. I guess they call that choke strapping? I used it for years
with a former employer and was surprised to learn that my current employer
doesn't know anything about it.

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I find it a waste of time trying to control others ignorance when I'm rarely
able to control my own.......

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realitytrucker

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"Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message news:<cb1sp9$v...@library2.airnews.net>...

Experience? Flatbed: About a year Parking lot: one year
Assorted 53 foot Vans: about 6 years.

How about you? Got a year doing anything?

Rocky

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message
news:<IntAc.462$OB3...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> > Jack wrote in message ...
> > >Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using a four
inch
> > >nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over and tightening, throw
it
> > >over and then go under and then over creating an overhand sinch? Is
it
> > >legal and do you
> > >know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my question
but
> > >maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.
> >
> >
> >
> > I talked to someone that drives a flatbed and that sort of sounds like
what
> > he refers to as a "Belly Strap."
>
>
> "I talked to a guy, who knows a guy, who's uncle's 3d ex-wife's cousin
> saw this once...".
>
> Yep, he's turning into a full fledged Bullis. What a shame that
> someone asks a legitimate question and these two non-truckdrivers
> (Bullis and Rookie) have to be the first to jump in with their
> bullshit.
>
> Although I have driven a flatbed I am not familiar with the strapping
> the original poster described. But did I start posting in response?
> NO! Because I know enough to keep my mouth shut and hands off the
> keyboard when I don't know what I am talking about. Yet it seems
> that Rookie and Bullis always have to put respond. I am convinced
> that neiher has so much as been INSIDE a Class 8 commercial motor
> vehicle, let alone driven one .
>
> The sad part about it is: they'll NEVER go away. They thrive on
> seeing their name on a computer monitor. So sad, so pathetic.


Yep, it looks like I found the start of your CDL Bullshit since you used it
twice in a row.

You blew up at Richard when he posted with a sock.

Since, in your mind, you glued us together, you would fuck me over too.

So, after all was said and done, you took the easy way out. You got mad a
Richard and me at the exact same time just because you thought of us the
same!

Don't forget, that type of trick is called classism. You put someone in a
class and then you bust them for being in the same class. Prejudice in it's
simplest form!

Good going TROLL. But once more, thanks for getting rid of Dave Ruff, that
was good going too. <G>

http://wookiee.home.att.net

Rocky


Rocky

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First, the Trollbait you ate, that led to months of bitching about BULLIS up
to the above post, came from an outright lie in a post on March 25, 2004.

Second. Everybody knows I worked at MANSUR when I got the answer about the
"Belly Strap."

But look what you did with one of the answers I got from another flatbedder.
You would use it to start your never ending CDL BULLSHIT!!!

Here is the funny thing: You ate your own lie on March 25, 2004 and then
you assumed I was lying above.

GOOD GOING TROLL. But I also have to say good going on getting rid of Dave
Ruff!

http://wookiee.home.att.net

Rocky


realitytrucker

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Jun 21, 2007, 11:36:59 PM6/21/07
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On Jun 21, 10:26 pm, "Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
> "realitytrucker" <timp1...@aol.com> wrote in message
> Rocky- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yep, looks like you're still delusional. How's Cheryl? Still
stalking her or did you learn a lesson when Ed broke your nose?
Nahhh...what am I saying?

realitytrucker

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On Jun 21, 10:26 pm, "Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
> "realitytrucker" <timp1...@aol.com> wrote in message
> Rocky- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You do realize what you are doing, don't you? If there, by some
miracle, IS someone on this group who isn't quite sure you are totally
insane you have left no doubt about the status whatsoever.

Who else but a delusional lunatic such as yourself would obsess over
something so trivial and dig thru years of archives just to cut and
paste old posts?

You just proved my point once again. I...we..don't have to post a
thing about you. If any more proof of your sick mind is needed you do
all the work for us.

Thanks sooo much, sweetie!

Rocky

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"Richard" <Anon...@127.001> wrote in message
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>
> "realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
> I have. Along with a CDL Class A and hazmat.
> My very first job was with a flatbed company.
> Ever heard of Compass?
> Worked a week with them and decided that was not my cup of tea.
>
> From what the OP was asking, his technique is basically a disaster waiting
> to happen.


Despite what realitytrasher said above, I was pulling flatbed for MANSUR
when I asked another MANSUR Flatbedder about the strap in question. I even
remember asking him in the garage part.

Everything I said was real but Tim would decide to bullshit about it and
then start trashing my CDL from his above post on June 18, 2004 to this very
day.

Tim blames everything on me, when Tim was the imbecile that did not want to
believe my above post.

What makes this even funnier is Tim believed someone that posted a big lie
on March 25, 2004 that happened to be him!

What a mess realitytrasher/Tim has made of this newsgroup. I wonder if it
will ever get any new posters again. At least he got rid of Dave Ruff
though, that was one good thing about him.

http://wookiee.home.att.net

Rocky

Rocky

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message
news:<10875957...@ftp1.boidmz.fiberpipe.net>...

> > "realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:8a7d8469.04061...@posting.google.com...
> > >
> > > "I talked to a guy, who knows a guy, who's uncle's 3d ex-wife's cousin
> > > saw this once...".
> > >
> > > Yep, he's turning into a full fledged Bullis. What a shame that
> > > someone asks a legitimate question and these two non-truckdrivers
> > > (Bullis and Rookie) have to be the first to jump in with their
> > > bullshit.
> > >
> >
> > If I am turning into a full fledged Bullis, surely you must be jealous.
You
> > just wish you could be as well off as Bullis is. I'm envious of the
fact
> > that he can work as little or as much as he wants to. Being financially
> > independent must be a nice thing.
>
> Hey, dipshit, there's a helluva difference between being "financially
> independant" and being unemployed and living off the state and
> relatives handouts. Once your mommy and daddy kick you out and you
> are forced to get a job you'll understand
> >
> > > Although I have driven a flatbed I am not familiar with the strapping
> > > the original poster described. But did I start posting in response?
> > > NO! Because I know enough to keep my mouth shut and hands off the
> > > keyboard when I don't know what I am talking about. Yet it seems
> > > that Rookie and Bullis always have to put respond. I am convinced
> > > that neiher has so much as been INSIDE a Class 8 commercial motor
> > > vehicle, let alone driven one .
> > >
> >
> > What ever you say little boy. Even if we don't have the actual
experience
> > in what the poster was referring to, trucking isn't exactly rocket
science.
>
> How would you know about trucking? You don't drive, Sweetie. I doubt
> there is one regular poster in this group that truly believes you
> drive a truck for a living. You spend way too much time on your
> little computer to be a driver.
> Just like Bullis, you are constantly online. When someone posts a
> trucking related question you two hop on the old keyboard to try to
> "research" and find an answer to the question. Your attempts fail
> miserably. Both of you post IDIOTIC advice that would only get a
> legitimate driver arrested or worse, killed or seriously injured.
>
> > Both Richard and I have the brains to answer most any question posted in
> > here just by doing a little bit of simple research.
>
> Oh, horseshit! You and your idol don't have ANY brains to speak of.
> You both just like to run your mouths regardless of whether you know
> any thing about the subject or not.
> >
> > > The sad part about it is: they'll NEVER go away. They thrive on
> > > seeing their name on a computer monitor. So sad, so pathetic.
> >

-------------------------------------------------------

Tim, take a close look at this line at the top of this post:


> "Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message

news:<10875957...@ftp1.boidmz.fiberpipe.net>...

The @ftp1.boidmz.fiberpipe.net part of it proves it was another IMPOSTER!!!
The information on the DSL used looks sort of like it could be Zčke again
OrgName: Fiberpipe Inc.
City: Boise
StateProv: ID

If you want to see the above post on google, to see for yourself there was
no cut and paste in my favor just go to:
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.trucking/msg/ed4b51f1eee2b705

You wasted all sorts of time bitching at me, when the fact is you bit the
big one again!

I hate to tell you this, but as much as you want to think Still Crazy's post
was entirely about me, *you* also fit this part of SC's post where SC
states:
"There are cruel people out there who pick on the mentally ill - bullies or
lack of a better word"

Tim the above post by an IMPOSTER was targeted to you, while most of Zčke
post were targeted to me the fact that there was only one post from Zeke in
June makes me wonder what he was up to.

Once more, how can you say all this bullshit about my CDL is *my* doing when
you must have thought a few different posters were me?

Not only did my IMPOSTERS play you for a fool, but so have Barry Helveston
and Dave Ruff. I still think that Dave Ruff left this group so he wouldn't
have to leave it later with egg all over his face.

I feel sorry for you Tim. But if you want to keep all this shit up just
because you incorrectly thought I was Richard on June 18, 2004 then so be
it.

The ball is still in your court once again. I'll wait to see if what you do
with it.

http://wookiee.home.att.net

Rocky


Crazee KUJO

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Jun 22, 2007, 7:17:18 PM6/22/07
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let it go and lets get back to the buisness of trucking!

HAVE A DAY!!!!

Doug McCrary

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"Rocky" <woo...@att.net> wrote in message
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>

> The ball is still in your court once again. I'll wait to see if what you do
> with it.
>

Logical impossibility.


Doug McCrary

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocky" <woo...@att.net>
To: "Doug McCrary" <DougM...@spamcop.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 5:29 AM
Subject: Re: Tim is fooled by an IMPOSTER again! (was: Hey flatbedders revised)


> Thanks for things you have done to help put an end to this stupid flame-war
> and as for your remark below, we will see about that.
>
> Rocky

I told you not to email me.

"The ball is still in your court once again." is, in fact, a logical
impossiblity. Think about it.


Rocky

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Jun 24, 2007, 10:13:59 AM6/24/07
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"Doug McCrary" <DougM...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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>
> I told you not to email me.

Where? I can not find you doing that on this newsgroup and I can not find
you doing that in the e-mail you sent me. Hasn't this newsgroup had enough
of your false statements?

Look, at what you did today, you trashed your own post where you stated.
"Just don't reply if r is off-topic in any way"

You are starting to fabricate evidence as much as Dave Ruff and Tim have.
This newsgroup does not need any more of that it already has way too much
false information.

But you are not all bad. Before you came along Top wanted me to stop
posting completely. Now Top only ask that I post on topic so that is a lot
better.

Once other posters like you start to post on topic it will be easy for me to
follow.

http://wookiee.home.att.net

Rocky


Night Rogue

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Jun 25, 2007, 1:19:07 AM6/25/07
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Glad you finally admit you're an imposter Sybil


Orson Wells as CitizenCain

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"Rocky" <woo...@att.net> wrote in message
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>

- snip -

Get help, kid.


Rocky

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"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noe...@here.invalid> wrote in message
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That's funny, I think that about you.


Zeke

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Tim, first look above where it says:
> "Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message
news:<10875957...@ftp1.boidmz.fiberpipe.net>...

At the very end it says "fiberpipe.net". "fiberpipe.net" is out where Zeke
lives and I've never posted with "fiberpipe.net" so why the hell were you
bitching at the Imposter as if it were me?

The above post was just over 10 hours after you started your constant
bullshit about my CDL yet you think you were right about my CDL when you
were wrong about the "fiberpipe.net" being me!

You are FUBAR Tim and I'm going to do everything I can do to prove it too.

God you are one fucked up asshole Tim and so many people took advantage of
you because you lived on "Sucker Bait."

Just how can you be so sure about my CDL when you were obviously wrong about
the above poster being Rocky?


Rocky or Rocky?

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Dec 31, 2007, 5:41:59 AM12/31/07
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On Dec 30, 10:17 pm, "Zeke" <This.is.so.my.copycat.will.not.copy.me>
wrote:
ANOTHER rant from the COWARD

>
> Just how can you be so sure about my CDL when you were obviously wrong about
> the above poster being Rocky?

Oh, I think this little "blast from the past" REALLY proves you don't
and never did have a CDL! It also proves what a nymshifter you are
and how even then you were trying to take down this newsgroup! Did
you REALLY read this thread before you posted there Roger the
Coward???? But hey, keep these "blast from the past" gems coming!

Admirable Rocky

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"Jack" <Admira...@aol.com> wrote in message
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...

> I find it a waste of time trying to control others ignorance when
> I'm rarely able to control my own.......

Oh, but if there is something to learn from it, it isn't that bad.

Rocky

Rocky or Rocky?

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On Jan 1, 11:01 am, "Admirable Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:

> ...
>
> > I find it a waste of time trying to control others ignorance when
> > I'm rarely able to control my own.......
>
> Oh, but if there is something to learn from it, it isn't that bad.
>
> Rocky

WTF???????? I can't figure this out, can anybody?? Roger, when you
are having your meltdown or your drug (crack or ice????) overdoses,
you really shouldn't post. You make less sense than normal!!!

The Admirable Rocky

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Jack" <Admira...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> > I have seen it done before many times securing something round. I don't
> > think I explained it correctly. It's like taking a piece of string and
> > wrapping it around your finger one time.
> >
> > --
> > -------------------------------------
> >
> > I find it a waste of time trying to control others ignorance when I'm
rarely
> > able to control my own.......
> >
> > -------------------------------------
> > "Richard" <Anon...@137.001> wrote in message
> > news:catq4...@news3.newsguy.com...
> > >
> > > "Jack" <Admira...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:NpidnTFua5K...@comcast.com...

> > > > Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using a
four
> > inch
> > > > nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over and tightening,
throw
> > it
> > > > over and then go under and then over creating an overhand sinch?
Is it
> > > > legal and do you
> > > > know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my
question
> > but
> > > > maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Under extreme load conditions, that kind of securing would break
apart.
> > > With all the road vibrations and other factors, it would loosen up in
a
> > > hurry.
> > > That's why flatbeds check their straps every time they stop.
> > > Even chains will loosen.
> > >
> > > Chances are, if an inspector caught you with that, he'd probably cite
you
> > > for improper securement of load.
> > > In my years of being on the road, I have never seen that done
anywhere.
> > >
> > >
>
> Jack, if you listen to ANYTHING these two idiots "Rocky" and "Richard"
> Bullis have to say you're just going to get totally erroneous
> information and be more confused. There are plenty more experiemced
> truckdrivers in this group who will be glad to correctly answer your
> questions.

"more experiemced" At the time of your post above I had over 8 months of
pulling a flatbed for MANSUR.
http://mtt.Slimefest.com/MANSUR

I would end up with over two years of experience of pulling a flatbed and
oversized loads before I changed to tankers.
http://mtt.Slimefest.com/Firetruck

Nobody on this newsgroup knew the term was "Choke Strap" and none of the
other flatbedders at MANSUR that I asked about it, knew it was a "Choke"
strap either. Yet you continue to hold your bullshit against me to this
very day.

It is true, I have stated YHBT to you, but the fact is YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT
YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT
YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT
YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT
YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT
YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT
YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT
YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT YHBT and then some because that was only 100 YHBTs.

And after all the times (Y)ou (H)ave (B)een (T)rolled you have only
apologized for two of them so you have about 98 more to go.

And as for the times YHBT and you repeated their "Sucker Bait" you went on
to Troll other IDIOTS just like yourself and give more "Sucker Bait" back to
the Trolls here.

Yep, just like a domino effect, once the Trolls had you, you fed other
Idiots like Joyce who thought I was Richard long after you posted that
"Rocky is Richard" "Sucker Bait" on March 25, 2004.

While I still haven't found the exact post I was looking for, described
next, it is possible that you ate "Sucker Bait" from Richard himself and
right before you started your non-stop bullshit about my CDL!

As for the post I'm looking for, it was one about "How can Rocky post so
much" when the fact was about half of those post were from me and I could
*not* post that much at the time because I didn't even know what a PPC was
then.

You were unable to tell who was who at the time you started your non-stop BS
about my CDL. That is proven by the fact, just 9 hours after your above
post You Were Trolled by an Imposter from fibernet. And if you look up
where that fibernet post came from, it could have very well been another
nymshift from Zčke. I have asked Zčke if it was him and he ignored me, but
chances are it was Zčke and you know that.

The Admirable Rocky still trying to deal with the "Tim the Idiot" that let
himself be trolled around 100 times and then went on to infect other Idiots
and give more "Sucker Bait" back to the Trolls like Dave Ruff.

Ok Tim, if you want to keep your BS up, I can easily show that there was
"Sucker Bait" laid out for you every step of the way. Even that "defending
Richard" had "Sucker Bait" from Dave Ruff tied to it! Do you really think
you made up your own mind when there was so much "Sucker Bait" laid out for
you?

While you try to deny eating so much "Sucker Bait" what is more important
than that is where is there any evidence that you ever tried to avoid eating
the large amout of "Sucker Bait" that Trolls laid out for you?

In other words, the ball should be in your court, you should try to prove
you were not infected by the large amount of "Sucker Bait" that Dave Ruff
and my Imposters laid out for you. Fair enough?

The Admirable Rocky


realitytrucker

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On Dec 31 2007, 12:17 am, "Zeke"
<This.is.so.my.copycat.will.not.copy.me> wrote:
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> news:8a7d8469.04061...@posting.google.com...> "Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message
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The post is 3.5 years old. This has been discussed and explained.
Old news.

The Admirable Rocky

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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- The post is 3.5 years old. This has been discussed and
- explained.Old news.

Tim, the word idiot does not even begin to describe you.

Just today we found out that all the bullshit you have been giving me about
my CDL is because I called a belly strap a belly strap on June 17, 2004 and
you got mad about it on June 18, 2004.

After you read what Brian posted today, in the paragraphs below, go back and
look at the first few post on this thread and see what you go so mad at me
about.

"BTW ... you posted some "blast from the past" about trapping flat bed
loads. You called it a 'choke strap' ... (what the hell is an overhand
sinch? that the O/P asked)
My limited deck experience (20 yrs?), and especially the last few years
with long stock (pipe - sucker rod - steel shapes - and fab-ed steel) --
we were REQUIRED to use that 'over/under strap'. Minimum 3X for striaght
pipe/bars ... as required for irregular loads. We call them 'belly
straps' ... no - it is NOT named after me."

The Admirable Rocky has caught Tim eating "Sucker Bait" again.


The Admirable Rocky

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"Richard" <Anon...@137.001> wrote in message
news:catpt...@news3.newsguy.com...

>
> "Rocky Roads" <n...@spam.bot> wrote in message
> news:IntAc.462$OB3...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

> >
> > Jack wrote in message ...
> > >Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using a four
> inch
> > >nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over and tightening, throw
it
> > >over and then go under and then over creating an overhand sinch? Is
it
> > >legal and do you
> > >know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my question
but
> > >maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.
> >
> >
> >
> > I talked to someone that drives a flatbed and that sort of sounds like
> what
> > he refers to as a "Belly Strap."
>
> No that's not a "belly strap".
> That's generally used on stuff like pipe. One strap goes over the top
pipes,
> then another goes through the center. Depends on how they're stacked.

Richard, you would be the biggest dumbshit on this NG, but that award
belongs to the poster Tim because he believed your crap above.

After Tim saw your "Sucker Bait" above he would turn into non-stop bullshit
about my CDL!

Now here is the funny thing. That strap is called a "belly strap" and you
can see that from the remark of someone that has had over 2 years of
experience with flatbeds himself.

bbelly 1-2-7 4:17 PM CST


BTW ... you posted some "blast from the past" about trapping flat bed
loads. You called it a 'choke strap' ... (what the hell is an overhand
sinch? that the O/P asked)
My limited deck experience (20 yrs?), and especially the last few years
with long stock (pipe - sucker rod - steel shapes - and fab-ed steel) --
we were REQUIRED to use that 'over/under strap'. Minimum 3X for striaght
pipe/bars ... as required for irregular loads. We call them 'belly
straps' ... no - it is NOT named after me.


The Admirable Rocky - still uncovering the "Sucker Bait" used by the Trolls
here.


The Admirable Rocky

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "Jack" <Admira...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:<BrmdnYr5epD...@comcast.com>...
> > I have seen it done before many times securing something round. I don't
> > think I explained it correctly. It's like taking a piece of string and
> > wrapping it around your finger one time.
> >
> > --
> > -------------------------------------
> >
> > I find it a waste of time trying to control others ignorance when I'm
rarely
> > able to control my own.......
> >
> > -------------------------------------
> > "Richard" <Anon...@137.001> wrote in message
> > news:catq4...@news3.newsguy.com...
> > >
> > > "Jack" <Admira...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:NpidnTFua5K...@comcast.com...
> > > > Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using a
four
> > inch
> > > > nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over and tightening,
throw
> > it
> > > > over and then go under and then over creating an overhand sinch?
Is it
> > > > legal and do you
> > > > know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my
question
> > but
> > > > maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Under extreme load conditions, that kind of securing would break
apart.
> > > With all the road vibrations and other factors, it would loosen up in
a
> > > hurry.
> > > That's why flatbeds check their straps every time they stop.
> > > Even chains will loosen.
> > >
> > > Chances are, if an inspector caught you with that, he'd probably cite
you
> > > for improper securement of load.
> > > In my years of being on the road, I have never seen that done
anywhere.
> > >
> > >
>
> Jack, if you listen to ANYTHING these two idiots "Rocky" and "Richard"
> Bullis have to say you're just going to get totally erroneous
> information and be more confused. There are plenty more experiemced
> truckdrivers in this group who will be glad to correctly answer your
> questions.

bbelly 1-2-7 4:17 PM CST


"BTW ... you posted some "blast from the past" about trapping flat bed
loads. You called it a 'choke strap' ... (what the hell is an overhand
sinch? that the O/P asked)
My limited deck experience (20 yrs?), and especially the last few years
with long stock (pipe - sucker rod - steel shapes - and fab-ed steel) --
we were REQUIRED to use that 'over/under strap'. Minimum 3X for striaght
pipe/bars ... as required for irregular loads. We call them 'belly
straps' ... no - it is NOT named after me."

----------

Tim, I hope you realize that "belly strap" was the correct answer to the
question and that you have been throwing a fuss all these years just because
I gave someone the correct answer before anybody else!

God Tim, what a total dumshit you are. You are worse than Richard because
you believed him when he posted: 'No that's not a "belly strap".'!

And if you want to get to other "Sucker Bait" you ate, I did not "defend
Richard" as you have me down for, I argued with him as I have been arguing
with him today!

The "Sucker Bait" you ate about "defend Richard" was from Dave Ruff and he
later recanted that "Sucker Bait." Plus Dave Ruff went on to post a
contradictory story to other "Sucker Bait" he has used against me!

If you try to give me that "defend Richard" bullshit one more time, I'll
point to the post that Dave Ruff dug up and ask you exactly what sentence
gives you the right to say what you have said about me.

Boy Tim. You just don't give up, even after I find the thread that is
behind all your biggest piece of bullshit about me, and prove you *wrong*
you just don't give up.

The Admirable Rocky


realitytrucker

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On Jan 3, 3:07 pm, "The Admirable Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
> "realitytrucker" <timp1...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:8a7d8469.04061...@posting.google.com...> "Jack" <AdmiralHal...@aol.com> wrote in message

>
> <news:BrmdnYr5epD...@comcast.com>...
>
>
>
>
>
> > > I have seen it done before many times securing something round.  I don't
> > > think I explained it correctly.  It's like taking a piece of string and
> > > wrapping it around your finger one time.
>
> > > --
> > > -------------------------------------
>
> > > I find it a waste of time trying to control others ignorance when I'm
> rarely
> > > able to control my own.......
>
> > > -------------------------------------
> > > "Richard" <Anonym...@137.001> wrote in message
> > >news:catq4...@news3.newsguy.com...
>
> > > > "Jack" <AdmiralHal...@aol.com> wrote in message
> The Admirable Rocky- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Feel better now, wannabe?

The REAL Rocky

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On Jan 2, 7:23 pm, "The Admirable Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:

>
> The Admirable Rocky has caught Tim eating "Sucker Bait" again.

The nutty nymshifter has been caught again!!!!

Roger, the cowardly LIAR, do you EVER read these "blasts from the
past" that you post???? Cause something in that little empty head of
yours is going out of its way to show us what a total loser you are!!!

Let me quote you: "Your mission Jim, should you decide to accept it
is, find a URL that says what a Belly Strap is. "

I think that sentence says all that needs to be said about your
"supposed" trucking knowledge!!!

Roger the Cowardly LIAR HAR HAR HAR!!!

Psst Roger - got any more good ones???

The Honorable Rocky 5

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Jan 5, 2008, 9:51:43 AM1/5/08
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"Jack" <Admira...@aol.com> wrote in message

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> Got a question for ya. Have you ever secured freight by using a four inch
> nylon strap and instead of just throwing it over and tightening, throw it
> over and then go under and then over creating an overhand sinch? Is it
> legal and do you
> know what I am asking. Sorry I'm not being more clear in my question but
> maybe someone will pickup on what I am saying.

Yes it is legal and it is referred to as a "belly strap." I called it a
"belly strap" before but I could have also pointed out that it is legal.
For anybody to bitch about missing that point is nit picking.

I was told from a woman as MANSUR, who I worked for at the time of your post
that you can't count that strap for holding down the load but she might have
said that because I wasn't using that strap as a top most strap at that
time.

Funny how calling the above strap a "belly strap" would put me through 3 1/2
years of bullshit about my CDL. I would hope realitytrasher is done
trashing me, but it looks like there are other Trolls that want to carry on
where realitytrasher left off.

Oh well, I'll just keep pointing out I caught hell for replying to the
question above with the term "belly strap" when the term has recently been
proven by three other posters that it is a "belly strap!"

The above post can be found on google at.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.trucking/msg/6a99df696ef1eb9d

To get to the entire thread where realitytrasher started thrashing me big
time, just click on the subject after you click on the above URL and you can
see just where Tim started his BS about my CDL. Thanks.

The Honorable Rocky 5 who has caught 3 1/2 years of BS about my CDL for
being right!


The REAL Rocky

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On Jan 5, 6:51 am, "The Dishonorable Rocky 5" <wook...@att.net> wrote:

>
> Yes it is legal and it is referred to as a "belly strap."

You think this guy has been waiting 3 1/2 years for your
answer?????????

Holy shit, Roger the Coward, you should call Stephen Hawkings - you
must have discovered the original time warp!!!!


>
> Oh well, I'll just keep pointing out I caught hell for replying to the
> question above with the term "belly strap" when the term has recently been
> proven by three other posters that it is a "belly strap!"

You didn't "catch hell" Roger, you created your own hell!!!! And
BTW, NOBODY CARES about whatever it is - if they are a REAL
truckdriver, they already know and there isn't a thing a nutcase
wannabe like you can tell them about it!
>
>
> The Dishonorable Rocky 5 who has caught 3 1/2 years of BS about my CDL for
> being a lying braindead psycho wannabe!

realitytrucker

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Jan 5, 2008, 11:49:31 AM1/5/08
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On Jan 3, 3:07 pm, "The Admirable Rocky" <wook...@att.net> wrote:

>
> Boy Tim.  You just don't give up, even after I find the thread that is
> behind all your biggest piece of bullshit about me, and prove you *wrong*
> you just don't give up.
>

> The Assholele Rocky-

You, as usual, haven't proved shit Seems to me that these other
posters have proven YOU wrong or at the very least proven that you
have no idea what you are talking about.

The Honorable Rocky 5

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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< Tim's sidestepping removed >

All three of the posters, bbelly, ~Tony~ and Skateboard'n have pointed out
that what I called a "belly strap" on June 17, 2004 is a "belly strap."

Since all your major shit about my CDL is based on that post, you owe
everybody here an apology.


The REAL Rocky

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Jan 5, 2008, 12:14:08 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 9:04 am, "The Honorable Rocky 5" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
>
> All three of the posters, bbelly, ~Tony~ and Skateboard'n have pointed out
> that what I called a "belly strap" on June 17, 2004 is a "belly strap."
>
> Since all your major shit about my CDL is based on that post, you owe
> everybody here an apology.

Nope, looks like YOU own Realitytrucker an apology but of course, you
aren't man (or snake) enough to do that, are you?????

This is what Realitytrucker REALLY wrote:

"Although I have driven a flatbed I am not familiar with the strapping
the original poster described. But did I start posting in response?
NO! Because I know enough to keep my mouth shut and hands off the
keyboard when I don't know what I am talking about. Yet it seems
that Rookie and Bullis always have to put respond. I am convinced
that neiher has so much as been INSIDE a Class 8 commercial motor
vehicle, let alone driven one .

The sad part about it is: they'll NEVER go away. They thrive on
se"eing their name on a computer monitor. So sad, so pathetic. "

Look it up, it's in this thread, Roger. Looks like he had you pegged
even then Roger! Are you SOOOOO ST00PID that you don't even know
that your 'blasts from the past' do more damage to you than they EVER
could anyone else???? But, hey, keep em coming - I'm totally enjoying
pointing out what a loser you are!!!!!

Poor Roger the Lying Coward - caught again and RUNNING SCARED!!!!!

realitytrucker

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Jan 5, 2008, 12:24:25 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 11:04 am, "The Honorable Rocky 5" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
> "realitytrucker" <timp1...@gmail.com> wrote in message

No no no no, little wannabe, you said it was based on a one letter
typo. But before that you were crying it was all Dave Ruff and I was
just his "troll shit eating" zombie who he could convince to do his
will.

Which is it? You change your mind every week. You blame someone new
almost every day for your own problems...problems that you created
and continue to feed to this day. Better check yourself back in the
the East Moline Mental Health Facility and ask, no, BEG them to get
you back on meds.

realitytrucker

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Jan 5, 2008, 12:25:42 PM1/5/08
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Its almost enough to make ya feel sorry for him. Must be horrible to
be that stupid.

The Honorable Rocky 5

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 5, 11:04 am, "The Honorable Rocky 5" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
> "realitytrucker" <timp1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4f63c415-9413-4036...@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> < Tim's sidestepping removed >
>
> All three of the posters, bbelly, ~Tony~ and Skateboard'n have pointed out
> that what I called a "belly strap" on June 17, 2004 is a "belly strap."
>
> Since all your major shit about my CDL is based on that post, you owe
> everybody here an apology.

"you said it was based on a one letter typo."

That was the very start of any shit at all was about my CDL and it was March
31, 2004 by Dave Ruff.

*Your* *constant* BS about my CDL was after I posted the words "Belly Strap"
to describe a "belly strap" on June 18, 2004.

Your history:

You went fruitcake after you ate "Sucker Bait" from Dave Ruff on December
30, 2003.

You went fruitcake after you ate "Sucker Bait" from tscottme on March 25,
2004.

You went fruitcake after you ate "Sucker Bait" from Richard on June 18,
2004! Yes Richard! How could you let Richard tell me I was wrong. Man you
are one fucked up Idiot!

I told you that you would be surprised where you ate that last Sucker Bait
from and I hope you are. You can see that just by following that thread
where I posted about the "belly strap" that you ate "Sucker Bait" from
Richard himself!

Not to mention all the times you went fruitcake when you thought the Zčke
was me and that happed more times that you want to admit!

The rest of your ongoing "Sucker Bait" has been removed.

The Honorable Rocky 5 has posted.


The Honorable Rocky 5

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 5, 11:14 am, The REAL Rocky <GodEverlast...@gmail.com> wrote:

Tim, you are known by the friends you feed and the fact that you are feeing
a Troll above makes you guiltly of being the Troll that you are!


~Tony~

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Jan 5, 2008, 1:58:53 PM1/5/08
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"The Honorable Rocky 5" <woo...@att.net> wrote in
news:2uCdnYlgv51CKuLa...@giganews.com:

>
> "realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:4f63c415-9413-4036-b1b2-adfb17192522
@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com..
> .

>
> < Tim's sidestepping removed >
>
> All three of the posters, bbelly, ~Tony~ and Skateboard'n have pointed
> out that what I called a "belly strap" on June 17, 2004 is a "belly
> strap."
>
> Since all your major shit about my CDL is based on that post, you owe
> everybody here an apology.

Look, the better course of action would be to drop it.

No one owes anyone an apology.

It took you a long time to bring up the evidence to me that made me take
a fresh look at all of this, and to finally acknowledge that you are a
driver.

Why didn't you offer that simple evidence a long time ago? Yes, I know
it was buried on one of your web pages, but I don't read them as a
general rule. I've referred to them to refute points you bring up.

There's a bottom line here Roger. You piss people off with the way you
attack an issue, be it yours or someone else's.

There are several people that will just never be warm and fuzzy friends.

Just drop it Roger. Drop all the stuff about your CDL, your legal
battles, and all the negative stuff that just doesn't matter.

There are several people in here, including myself, who have weathered
crap by people who just didn't like us. I deserved it, and I learned to
deal with it.

When I quit giving attention to the things that kept it all stirred up,
it died a natural death. I'll not name names, but there are other people
that have learned to do the same.

Just drop it...please. I know it's hard, because I'm one of those very
people that likes to have the last word, but I learned that it's not
that important to have that last word.

Sometimes you've just got to agree to disagree, and leave it there. At
this point, there isn't any point that could be made, that hasn't been
made a hundred times over. Let it go.

~Tony~
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Jan 5, 2008, 2:51:26 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 9:25 am, realitytrucker <timp1...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > Poor Roger the Lying Coward - caught again and RUNNING SCARED!!!!!
>
> Its almost enough to make ya feel sorry for him. Must be horrible to
> be that stupid.

Roger is the most psychotic, STUPID troll I've ever come across. My
pity goes out to this newsgroup for having had to put up with him so
long! As for feeling sorry for Roger? Maybe, AFTER he goes away!!

The REAL Rocky

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Jan 5, 2008, 2:53:09 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 10:58 am, "~Tony~" <alprov...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> Sometimes you've just got to agree to disagree, and leave it there. At
> this point, there isn't any point that could be made, that hasn't been
> made a hundred times over. Let it go.
>
> ~Tony~
> --


Tony, I understand your sentiments, but you have to know that this
post is going to backfire in your face a thousand times. Roger the
cowardly liar will see it as weakness and he will go for your
throat!!! He is nothing more than a cunning predator!!!

The REAL Rocky

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Jan 5, 2008, 2:55:50 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 10:08 am, "The Dishonorable Roger" <wook...@att.net> wrote:


>
> Your history:
>
> You went fruitcake after you ate "Sucker Bait" from Dave Ruff on December
> 30, 2003.

Errr.... NO it was YOU who went fruitcake


>
> You went fruitcake after you ate "Sucker Bait" from tscottme on March 25,
> 2004.

Errr....NO it was YOU who went fruitcake


>
> You went fruitcake after you ate "Sucker Bait" from Richard on June 18,
> 2004!

Errr......NO it was YOU who went fruitcake
>

>
> Not to mention all the times you went fruitcake when you thought the Zèke


> was me and that happed more times that you want to admit!

Errr....NO it was YOU who went fruitcake
>

>
> The Dishonorable Roger the lying coward has posted more bullshit.

The REAL Rocky

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Jan 5, 2008, 3:12:20 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 10:58 am, "~Tony~" <alprov...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> It took you a long time to bring up the evidence to me that made me take
> a fresh look at all of this, and to finally acknowledge that you are a
> driver.

Then WHY in this sudden burst of belief HAVEN'T YOU contacted his
supposed trucking company? If you believe that he is a truckdriver
AND driving a tanker, you must know that he is an accident waiting to
happen. You KNOW that he posts here continuously which means that IF
he is a truckdriver, he's not sleeping and that he is probably texting
behind the wheel of his truck when he is driving.

If YOU are trying to be as "honorable" as you think you are, WHY don't
you care as much about the poor people that have to drive NEXT to this
nut?????


~Tony~

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Jan 5, 2008, 3:11:57 PM1/5/08
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The REAL Rocky <GodEver...@gmail.com> wrote in news:943646bb-1637-4d1e-
a02d-6c0...@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> Tony, I understand your sentiments, but you have to know that this
> post is going to backfire in your face a thousand times. Roger the
> cowardly liar will see it as weakness and he will go for your
> throat!!! He is nothing more than a cunning predator!!!

Maybe. But it's gotta start somewhere.

The REAL Rocky

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Jan 5, 2008, 3:33:04 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 12:11 pm, "~Tony~" <alprov...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> Maybe. But it's gotta start somewhere.
>
> ~Tony~
> --
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Hasn't stopped yet! I believe back in the past Dave Ruff tried to
do this too and look what happened to him!!! I think even
Realitytrucker tried to do this too and look what happened to him!!!

But I do wish you LUCK!!!

~Tony~

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Jan 5, 2008, 3:28:10 PM1/5/08
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The REAL Rocky <GodEver...@gmail.com> wrote in news:f12a8f91-2bff-
4a6b-8802-2...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> Then WHY in this sudden burst of belief HAVEN'T YOU contacted his
> supposed trucking company?

Why would I do that?

> If you believe that he is a truckdriver
> AND driving a tanker, you must know that he is an accident waiting to
> happen.

Why? because he is a little twisted? The trucking industry is FILLED
with people that do not interact with others well.

We are the dumping ground for the homeless, assholes, and idiots. If a
rock could grow arms and legs, and pass a physical, someone out here
would hire it to drive a truck.

> You KNOW that he posts here continuously which means that IF
> he is a truckdriver, he's not sleeping and that he is probably texting
> behind the wheel of his truck when he is driving.

Actually, I've never studied his posting times to see if there is a
pattern to them. He sure spends a great deal of time online, and some
people don't sleep as long as others. I sleep much more on the road
myself.



> If YOU are trying to be as "honorable" as you think you are, WHY don't
> you care as much about the poor people that have to drive NEXT to this
> nut?????

When it comes down to it, we really don't know a thing about any of the
other people we interact with in here.

His online activity is one thing. How he drives out there may be totally
different.

One person in here met the man, and his post appears to paint a
different picture of the guy than we who have not met him, have painted
in our heads.

Roger is obviously functioning on an intelligent level in some ways.
Even with misguided understandings of the laws and how they are to be
argued in court, he DID defend himself and was acquitted in a criminal
trial.

I can't say much for what he did afterward, but that's his problem.

I'm just not going to beat the man up anymore. It's getting old.

I'm not condemning anyone else for what they do or think, or for their
choice in how they want to deal with him. I'm strictly speaking for
myself.

But I really think if people would back off, this thing could reverse
itself and we all might benefit from doing so.

If not, then I'll take all the cyber spankings I will richly deserve.

The REAL Rocky

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On Jan 5, 12:28 pm, "~Tony~" <alprov...@comcast.net> wrote:
> The REAL Rocky <GodEverlast...@gmail.com> wrote in news:f12a8f91-2bff-
> 4a6b-8802-2b8c73188...@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

>
> > Then WHY in this sudden burst of belief HAVEN'T YOU contacted his
> > supposed trucking company?
>
> Why would I do that?

Because on the day his supposed truck broke down, he hadn't gotten
more than 3 hours sleep at a time - IF this guy is a real truckdriver,
isn't that against the law or something?


>
> > If you believe that he is a truckdriver
> > AND driving a tanker, you must know that he is an accident waiting to
> > happen.
>
> Why? because he is a little twisted? The trucking industry is FILLED
> with people that do not interact with others well.
>
> We are the dumping ground for the homeless, assholes, and idiots. If a
> rock could grow arms and legs, and pass a physical, someone out here
> would hire it to drive a truck.
>

Now you've got ME scared to be on the highways!!!! Is it NORMAL and
ACCEPTED for truckdrivers to drive without sleep????? If I did it
and caused an accident that killed someone, I could be charged with
negligent homocide. Is there some rule that says truckdrivers are
exempt from this????

>
> His online activity is one thing. How he drives out there may be totally
> different.

You REALLY believe that?


>
>
> I'm just not going to beat the man up anymore. It's getting old.

That I can accept - it is HARD at times to run off a troll!


>
> I'm not condemning anyone else for what they do or think, or for their
> choice in how they want to deal with him. I'm strictly speaking for
> myself.
>
> But I really think if people would back off, this thing could reverse
> itself and we all might benefit from doing so.

Hasn't that already been tried in this newsgroup? And what were the
results???


>
> If not, then I'll take all the cyber spankings I will richly deserve.

No spankings from me! I know it is difficult dealing with a total
psycho!! I'm not here to harass the regulars so I won't bother you
again!

The Honorable Rocky Five

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"~Tony~" <alpr...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9A1C9C619B6B8a...@38.119.106.45...

> The REAL Rocky <GodEver...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:943646bb-1637-4d1e-
> a02d-6c0...@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Tony, I understand your sentiments, but you have to know that this
> > post is going to backfire in your face a thousand times. Roger the
> > cowardly liar will see it as weakness and he will go for your
> > throat!!! He is nothing more than a cunning predator!!!
>
> Maybe. But it's gotta start somewhere.
>
> ~Tony~

This is too funny. the GEL Troll using the phrase "cunning predator" when
the facts show he is nothing more than a Vulture Troll that lives off the
"Sucker Bait" of other Trolls!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture

The Incredible Honorable Rocky Five has posted


The REAL Rocky

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Jan 5, 2008, 4:24:21 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 1:15 pm, "The Dishonorable Roger" <blahb...@blah.net> wrote:

>
> This is too funny. the GEL Troll using the phrase "cunning predator" when
> the facts show he is nothing more than a Vulture Troll that lives off the
> "Sucker Bait" of other Trolls!
>

This is too funny. The psycho Roger the lying Coward using the phrase
vulture troll when the facts show he is nothing more than a stalker
who stalks 70 year old women.

www.overprotectivemother.com


> The Incredibly psychotic Roger the lying coward has posted more blithering BS AGAIN!

The Honorable Rocky Five

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"~Tony~" <alpr...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9A1C8FFE63B1Ba...@38.119.106.45...

>
> Look, the better course of action would be to drop it.

Dang, but look at the humor to all of this.

Tim was worried that I might give incorrect advice to someone so he used an
incorrect opinion from Richard to stop me! I don't know if I'll ever be
able to stop laughing about that but it is very sad at the same time.

And to think, if bbelly never posted the term "belly strap" I'd still be
lost trying to point out how stupid this whole thing has been.


> No one owes anyone an apology.

True, but if I just let Tim just tuck it away then nobody has learned
anything and someone else can get screwed the exact same way.


> It took you a long time to bring up the evidence to me that made me take
> a fresh look at all of this, and to finally acknowledge that you are a
> driver.

There are posters here that never had any doubt and even new posters could
see something was wrong here in one or two post.

Like when I mentioned how to load a coil. You know chances are the
dispatcher knows if a coil will be loaded shotgun or suicide so you find
that out before you ever stop your truck to pick up the load.

Then I knew you used coil racks wood and anti-skid pads. If I were what Tim
says about me do you think I would have known that?


> Why didn't you offer that simple evidence a long time ago? Yes, I know
> it was buried on one of your web pages, but I don't read them as a
> general rule. I've referred to them to refute points you bring up.

To tell the truth, I really didn't have anything solid until bbelly used the
term "belly strap" to define exactly what I had used the term "belly strap"
to define on June 17, 2004. As long as Tim keeps messing with me, I'll keep
throwing that fact back into his face.


> There's a bottom line here Roger. You piss people off with the way you
> attack an issue, be it yours or someone else's.

So? That still doesn't give posters the right to use Big Lies about me.
Once they stoop to the level of using Big Lies against me then they have
crossed the line.


> There are several people that will just never be warm and fuzzy friends.

Hmmm. If you look at the bond between realitytrucker and Gashauler I would
call them "fuzzy friends."


> Just drop it Roger. Drop all the stuff about your CDL, your legal
> battles, and all the negative stuff that just doesn't matter.

Dude, the fact that you failed to see that Cheryl was completely impeached
by a "Report of Proceeding" shows that something still needs to be done
about my "legal battles." But don't worry. It is not what you think it
will be.


> There are several people in here, including myself, who have weathered
> crap by people who just didn't like us. I deserved it, and I learned to
> deal with it.

Well, I hope if realitytrasher can say it is over then that might change
things for all of us here.

Thanks for the rest of your post and I will try to settle down a bit, but
dang, the people posting flame-bait will always bother me, especially after
I have been such a victim of flame-bait/"Sucker Bait" myself.

> ~Tony~

http://wookiee.home.att.net

The Honorable Rocky Five.


The REAL Rocky

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Jan 5, 2008, 5:10:37 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 2:05 pm, "The Honorable Rocky Five" <wook...@att.net> wrote:
>
>
> There are posters here that never had any doubt and even new posters could
> see something was wrong here in one or two post.

WTF???? Name ONE!
>


>
> > There's a bottom line here Roger. You piss people off with the way you
> > attack an issue, be it yours or someone else's.
>
> So? That still doesn't give posters the right to use Big Lies about me.
> Once they stoop to the level of using Big Lies against me then they have
> crossed the line.

Ohhh, Ohhh, Ohhh, BIG LIES - on a NEWSGROUP!!!!!! OHHHH, OHHHHH,
OHHHHH, THAT has NEVER happened BEFORE!!!!
>

>
> Hmmm. If you look at the bond between realitytrucker and Gashauler I would
> call them "fuzzy friends."

You jealous?????
>

>
> Dude, the fact that you failed to see that Cheryl was completely impeached
> by a "Report of Proceeding" shows that something still needs to be done
> about my "legal battles." But don't worry. It is not what you think it
> will be.

And EXACTLY WHAT would be think it will be????? You've been
harassing this poor family since 1983 - what ELSE could you possibly
do to them???? This has GOT to be good!!!!!
>

>
> Well, I hope if realitytrasher can say it is over then that might change
> things for all of us here.

LIAR - there was atime when Realitytrucker tried to end this and YOU
wouldn't stop! Kindly like you won't stop harassing the Rusks,
huh?????

> Thanks for the rest of your post and I will try to settle down a bit, but
> dang, the people posting flame-bait will always bother me, especially after
> I have been such a victim of flame-bait/"Sucker Bait" myself.

LIAR!!!! You've said that before and???????????

The only way YOU will go away is if you are SCARED away!!!

>
> The Dishonorable Rocky Five - meaning this is a "new" personality - different than the other four that have been posting since 2003.

The REAL Rocky

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Jan 5, 2008, 5:21:32 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 2:05 pm, "The Honorable Rocky Five" <wook...@att.net> wrote:

>
> Dude, the fact that you failed to see that Cheryl was completely impeached
> by a "Report of Proceeding" shows that something still needs to be done
> about my "legal battles." But don't worry. It is not what you think it
> will be.
>

WTF Are you THREATENING Cheryl's family AGAIN???????

realitytrucker

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Jan 5, 2008, 7:24:27 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 2:28 pm, "~Tony~" <alprov...@comcast.net> wrote:
people we interact with in here.
>
> His online activity is one thing. How he drives out there may be totally
> different.
>
> One person in here met the man, and his post appears to paint a
> different picture of the guy than we who have not met him, have painted
> in our heads.  


And Shawn also stopped posting here for whatever reason. When he
returned after a year or so and saw how truly obsessed and psychotic
Rocky had become he changed his tune.

>
> Roger is obviously functioning on an intelligent level in some ways.
> Even with misguided understandings of the laws and how they are to be
> argued in court, he DID defend himself and was acquitted in a criminal
> trial.
>

Lots of fun guys functioned on an "intelligent level in some ways.
People like John Wayne Gacy or maybe Ted Bundy come to mind. Nah,
Tony, I disagree. This guy is sick. He's a timebomb ticking down.
An accident waiting to happen.

The Honorable Rocky Five

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Jan 5, 2008, 8:40:00 PM1/5/08
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"realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 5, 2:28 pm, "~Tony~" <alprov...@comcast.net> wrote:
people we interact with in here.
>
> His online activity is one thing. How he drives out there may be totally
> different.
>
> One person in here met the man, and his post appears to paint a
> different picture of the guy than we who have not met him, have painted
> in our heads.


- And Shawn also stopped posting here for whatever reason. When he
- returned after a year or so and saw how truly obsessed and psychotic
- Rocky had become he changed his tune.

Tim you are a flame-bait generator. Shawn never posted anything like that
and you know it.


> Roger is obviously functioning on an intelligent level in some ways.
> Even with misguided understandings of the laws and how they are to be
> argued in court, he DID defend himself and was acquitted in a criminal
> trial.
>

- Lots of fun guys functioned on an "intelligent level in some ways.
- People like John Wayne Gacy or maybe Ted Bundy come to mind. Nah,
- Tony, I disagree. This guy is sick. He's a timebomb ticking down.
-An accident waiting to happen.

Tim you are a funny guy and just so you know, there is only one thing dumber
than being an Idiot and that is taking the word of someone you know is an
Idiot.

When an "Idiot" posted 'No that's not a "belly strap".' on June 17, 2004 you
were even a bigger Idiot for believing him on June 18, 2004.

Tim, you have no right to talk about "intelligence" since you obviously
don't have any.

The Intelligent and Honorable Rocky Five has posted


Gashauler

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I think he's had plenty of times to do the right thing. He just chooses not
to do it for his own reasons. He'll just blow smoke up everyones ass on the
real reason why he stays. He has lost any and all creditability with the
people here and that bothers a person like wittekind. He's got to be the one
standing up in front of the class saying "Hey look everybody what I say is
perfect". You take all of his creditability away like this group has and
you'll have a delusional stalker that will stay completely out of touch with
reality and will die trying to convince anyone into his way of thinking.

A good example is when he was a decent poster about two years ago for a
couple of weeks. Myself and others were very civil with roger and the tides
where begining to change. Then someone throws a comment out of the blue and
wittekind goes off on me because I didn't stop this guy. He believes all
other posters should stand up and clear his name and if you don't then
you're the bad guy. To me, and I'm sure with others, I believe this is very
delusional thinking and nothing will change unless we change. If we all just
ignore the crap it's a better group.

No he'll never be right and he'll remain queer for many years. Unless of
course he gets help which I wish he would.


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realitytrucker

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Jan 5, 2008, 11:17:28 PM1/5/08
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On Jan 5, 8:00 pm, "Gashauler" <swordfi...@comcast.net> wrote:

>and he'll remain queer for many years

Thats a given no matter which way you interpret that considering how
he seems to view women.

The Honorable Rocky Five

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"Gashauler" <sword...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
< MORE SUCKER BAIT REMOVED >

>
> A good example is when he was a decent poster about two years ago for a
> couple of weeks. Myself and others were very civil with roger and the
tides
> where begining to change. Then someone throws a comment out of the blue
and
> wittekind goes off on me because I didn't stop this guy.

Dave Ruff, *you* threw more "Sucker Bait" out for Tim. Tim ate it and he
went back to his old ways on February 21, 2006.

Here is the post from Tim where he restarted all his *shit*. If you look
close you can not blame me for your hijacking the thread and getting Tim to
start his endless bullshit all over again! You Trolled this NG and Tim fell
for it on February 21, 2006:
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.trucking/msg/65ae339109b88b11


> He believes all
> other posters should stand up and clear his name and if you don't then
> you're the bad guy. To me, and I'm sure with others, I believe this is
very
> delusional thinking and nothing will change unless we change. If we all
just
> ignore the crap it's a better group.

HA HA HA, the joke is on you. I have tracked down the *exact* reason that
Tim went on the fritz June 18, 2004. The post where he became constant BS
about my CDL.

If anybody wants to verify where Tim went on the fritz, they don't have look
very hard because it is easy to spot. All they have to do is look at Tim's
posting habits before and after June 18, 2004 and see the difference in his
post.

I went so far as to find the exact post that Tim went fritz on and it was
because Richard posted: 'No that's not a "belly strap".' on June 17, 2004
and Tim being the moron that he is, believed it!

Yes, despite Richard's reputation for being wrong Tim believed Richard and
it wasn't until bbelly posted that it was a "belly strap" about a week ago
that I could finally start to clear my name.


> No he'll never be right and he'll remain queer for many years. Unless of
> course he gets help which I wish he would.

More of your "Sucker Bait." With you constantly posting "Sucker Bait" for
the moron Tim to eat it will take even longer for Tim to get his head on
straight again.

Dave Ruff, you refuse to take any credit for any of the bullshit that Tim
has posted to this NG, but the post above from Tim on February 21, 2006
proves that you were directly responsible for Tim's restarting all his
bullshit!

Once again, Richard post 'No that's not a "belly strap".' on June 17, 2004
and before anybody else posted about the name for the strap Tim freaked out
royally. Only lately have we found out that Richard was *wrong* as usual
and bbelly, ~Tony~ and Skateboard'n all help point the the fact that Richard
was *wrong* again.

The Honorable Rocky Five has cracked this case!


The Honorable Rocky Five

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 5, 8:00 pm, "Gashauler" <swordfi...@comcast.net> wrote:

< passing of more "Sucker Bait" removed >

See, I told you that Dave Ruff feeds Tim and Tim eats it up. It has always
been like that.

Ever since Dave Ruff posted "Sucker Bait" on December 16, 2003 that Dave
Ruff would later recant, Tim has proven that he will eat Dave Ruff's "Sucker
Bait."

But, the funniest part is, when Tim cracked on June 18, 2004 it wasn't Dave
Ruff's "Sucker Bait" he ate, but it was "Sucker Bait" from Richard himself
that Tim ate!

Here is the Sucker Bait Richard posted for Tim to eat: 'No that's not a
"belly strap".' and Tim has proven that he was a "Sucker" when he believed
Richard! ROTFLMAO

We have this exact quote from realitytrasher's Manifesto on January 26,
2004.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.trucking/msg/983c419b7ca0d85b

"And you have
the people who have to search usenet to find posts from those
idividuals and tell them what an asshole they are for posting
incorrect info. This is a waste of time and bandwith because the
other people in this group are smart enough to figure it out for
themselves."

But the facts prove, that is not the case. Tim was *not* "smart enough to
figure it out for himself." It wasn't until just recently that evidence was
presented by bbelly, ~Tony~ and Skateboard'n that proves Tim was *not*
"smart enough to figure it out for himself" despite what he posted on
January 26, 2004.

The Honorable Rocky Five has cracked the case of the realitytrasher vs.
Rocky Holy-War.

The Honorable Rocky Five

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"realitytrucker" <timp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 5, 8:00 pm, "Gashauler" <swordfi...@comcast.net> wrote:

>and he'll remain queer for many years

- Thats a given no matter which way you interpret that considering
- how he seems to view women.

You have just stepped into another Shit Throwing contest that Tim and Dave
love so much.


The Honorable Rocky Five

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Jan 6, 2008, 8:44:37 AM1/6/08
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"~Tony~" <alpr...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Roger is obviously functioning on an intelligent level in some ways.
> Even with misguided understandings of the laws and how they are to be
> argued in court, he DID defend himself and was acquitted in a criminal
> trial.

If you looked at why the "Mack" case was "Reversed and Remanded" you will
see that a "Probable Cause" that demonstrates a "Total Lack of Good Faith"
can be used to prove "Malice."

I used a "Police Report" to prove Beverly Rusk lied to bring charges against
me the first time and I used the "Report of Proceedings" from the earlier
trial to prove she lied a second time. For the State to allow Bevery Rusk
to continue with her lies was where the State screwed up.

I also introduced evidence that proved Cheryl and Beverly are not the same
person and they even fought each other. For the Appellate Court to make it
look like they were the same person only helps her overprotective mother
victimize her own daughter!

"Malice?" I certainly had evidence of "Malice" but I felt sorry for Beverly
and I decided not to use those words since her attorney had not entered any
evidence of a *valid* "Probable Cause."

I had no idea, that Judges would simply assume the "Opening Remarks" were
based on fact instead of more of Beverly Rusk outright lies and then refuse
me the chance to impeach my accusors just like I had impeached them in the
jury trial that I won!


> I'm not condemning anyone else for what they do or think, or for their
> choice in how they want to deal with him. I'm strictly speaking for
> myself.

Tim eats "Sucker Bait" and Dave Ruff continually throws "Sucker Bait" out
for him to eat. Dave Ruff is the Troll on this newsgroup and for people to
help conceal that fact only makes it worse.

Here is a perfect example of how Dave Ruff started a "Shit Throwing Contest"
on February 17, 2004 by posting shit himself! Note, it was this very thread
where tscottme would add the shit about me being Richard!

Dave Ruff post this on February 17, 2004:
"Why do you find it necessary to post every little bullshit item that
happens in your day?"

But his statement alone was bullshit, since what I posted about was far from
a daily event.

That shit would only led to more shit and more shit like where tscottme
would post that I was Richard!


> But I really think if people would back off, this thing could reverse
> itself and we all might benefit from doing so.

Sadly, the best thing for this NG would be for posters to do the opposite of
what Dave Ruff wants them to do. Dave Ruff wants posters to keep fucking
with me.


> If not, then I'll take all the cyber spankings I will richly deserve.

Tony, I'll do my best to stick with one name, and even my original agreement
with Ed early last year he allowed me to change my e-mail address.

As for my agreement with Ed, I can find where he broke his word to me first,
so he really has no right to bitch about me.

> ~Tony~

The Honorable Rocky Five cracked the case and it is simply
Tim eats "Sucker Bait" and Dave post "Sucker Bait"


GodEverlasting

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Jan 6, 2008, 9:48:11 AM1/6/08
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On Jan 6, 5:44 am, "The Honorable Rocky Five" <wook...@att.net> wrote:

>
> Tony, I'll do my best to stick with one name, and even my original agreement
> with Ed early last year he allowed me to change my e-mail address.

INTERPRETATION: "I'll tell that stupid fool anything to sucker him
along thinking I'm his friend until I'm done using him. I have NO
INTENTION of trying anything except destroying this newsgroup and I
won't let fools like him get in the way."

>
> As for my agreement with Ed, I can find where he broke his word to me first,
> so he really has no right to bitch about me.

INTERPRETATION: As for any agreement, I can invent "proof" where
someone else broke it first so I NEVER have to worry about keeping my
word to ANYONE, certainly not the stupid fools here!!!


>


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