Re: Illinois to let truckiers drive 65 on interstates starting Jan 1
Rocky
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> http://www.sj-r.com/news/x730414505/IDOT-prepares-for-trucks-to-go-65-mph
>
> "Our plan is to wait until the week of Jan. 4 to begin removing and
> modifying the signs, weather permitting. For us, the big issue will be
> the weather,"
Thanks for the information and now I won't expect Illinois to change the
signs on January first.
> * Iowa: 70
but you also will find a lot of trucks in Iowa doing less than 65 where I
might be one of them.
> BAN ON TEXTING TO START, TOO
>
> Texting and driving, and talking on a cell phone in construction and
> school zones, also will be banned Jan. 1 in Illinois.
Yes. Thanks for mentioning that too and I wonder if signs for that will go
up January 4th.
>
> One measure signed in August by Gov. Pat Quinn will make it illegal to
> "compose, send or read text messages, e-mail on a cell phone, or surf
> the Internet while driving." The ban also includes personal digital
> assistants and portable or mobile computers but does not include
> global positioning or navigation systems.
No Internet while driving and does not include GPS. So where does that put
Google Maps for Mobile where it uses the GPS and the Internet for the data?
It looks like it will be OK.
More on Google Maps for Mobile can be found at:
http://www.google.com/mobile/products/maps.html#p=default
Rocky
Jonathan Grobe
Illinois rural interstates only driving 55 mph?
I haven't (although I don't drive in Illinois very often).
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Rocky
"Jonathan Grobe" <gr...@netins.net> wrote in message
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> So has anyone ever been behind a semi on one of these
> Illinois rural interstates only driving 55 mph?
>
> I haven't (although I don't drive in Illinois very often).
Semis like Schneider day cabs are governed to 60 mph so there will be semis
still going 60 even after they raise the speed limit to 65 in Illinois.
What will be interesting is if the cars in Illinois speed up. I remember
when they raised the speed limit on the Ohio Turnpike and even though cars
and truck had the exact same speed limit the cars still had to drive faster
and speed more time with the troopers.
http://wookiee.home.att.net/OhioAt65
Rocky
Rocky
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> http://www.sj-r.com/news/x730414505/IDOT-prepares-for-trucks-to-go-65-mph
>
> THE STATE JOURNAL-REGISTER
> Posted Dec 06, 2009 @ 12:30 AM
> Last update Dec 06, 2009 @ 08:21 AM
>
> The most significant change in Illinois speed-limit law in more than
> three decades will require fewer signs, not more. About 500 fewer.
>
> The Illinois Department of Transportation expects to begin removing 55
> mph speed-limit signs for truckers from rural interstates - pretty
> much everything outside of metropolitan Chicago - shortly after the
> first of the year as the big rigs join the rest of the traffic with a
> speed limit of 65 mph.
"shortly after the first of the year?" That is bull because the speed limit
for trucks in Illinois changed at midnight not "shortly after the first of
the year" and all anybody had to do to verify that for themselves was ask a
State Patrol Officer at a truck stop just like I did. The Officer told me
the speed limit was 65 then he asked me if I drive a Truck. I said yes and
then he said they just haven't changed the signs yet.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/96/HB/PDF/09600HB3956lv.pdf
I like the new speed limit a lot but it seems a few of the 4 wheelers
haven't figured out that they can't pass every truck like they used to.
I drove on the Ohio Turnpike the day they changed that speed limit years ago
and even though the signs showed 65 mph truck driver were afraid to go much
over 65 that but that doesn't seem to be the case in Illinois at least not
yet.
I used the CB radio to tell other truck drivers what the State Patrol told
me all the sudden I noticed the three trucks in front of me pulling away
from me. Guss the news traveled fast. :-)
<snip>
> BAN ON TEXTING TO START, TOO
>
> Texting and driving, and talking on a cell phone in construction and
> school zones, also will be banned Jan. 1 in Illinois.
That is a bummer because now I have to be stopped to post a message to a
newsgroup and then indicate a stop on my log book.
> One measure signed in August by Gov. Pat Quinn will make it illegal to
> "compose, send or read text messages, e-mail on a cell phone, or surf
> the Internet while driving." The ban also includes personal digital
> assistants and portable or mobile computers but does not include
> global positioning or navigation systems.
I guess they have to consider the cars that have the GPS built in .
Rocky
Brent
> "shortly after the first of the year?" That is bull because the speed limit
> for trucks in Illinois changed at midnight not "shortly after the first of
> the year" and all anybody had to do to verify that for themselves was ask a
> State Patrol Officer at a truck stop just like I did. The Officer told me
> the speed limit was 65 then he asked me if I drive a Truck. I said yes and
> then he said they just haven't changed the signs yet.
>
> http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/96/HB/PDF/09600HB3956lv.pdf
Might be a good idea to wait for the signs given the nature of cops and
traffic court. Especially in IL where the finer points of the law are
ignored in traffic and adminstrative court. Some 'judges' will decide it
was speeding because of what the sign read, not what the law is.
Rocky
"Brent" <tetraethylle...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Given the total lack of speed traps on I80 in Illinois yesterday it looked
like the cops didn't want to fight the law vs. signage argument in court.
The "urban districts" are the only areas I can see where there could be a
dispute on what the speed really is so it might be a good idea to wait for
the signs in just those areas.
Me? I'm hoping they have all the signs changed on the 4th so we don't have
to worry about the law vs. signage much longer.
Rocky
Free Lunch
<tetraethylle...@yahoo.com> wrote in misc.transport.road:
I was once in traffic court in front of a judge who essentially said
that everyone runs stops signs, so if you are here on a ticket for
failing to stop for a stop sign, he knows you did it. What a waste of
time.
tscottme
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Another dsyfuncational staple of the trucking message forums and news
groups. Whether the speed limits for truck has or has not increased,
whether it has or will shortly become effective, why not wait, like Brent
said, until the signs change.
I swear every time some truck driver hears a rumor that some state
somewhere, at some time has/will raise the limits I can just see one of our
fleet of functionalyl illiterate drivers ignoring the signs and driving like
mad because some guy said it was OK. It's not like you get much benefit
from guessing right about the state upping a speed limit. Your load needs
to go where it needs to go and that means you drive in the states when you
get there and that means you might as well obey the signs like an adult with
a desire not to have speeding tickets. There are so few real-life
circumstances where you can drive around some lower speedlimit jurisdiction
and not be delayed beyond what you would have experienced by just drivign
direct and observing the signs, I don't undrestand why this topic is such a
chestnut in the trucking forums.
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tscottme
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> I was once in traffic court in front of a judge who essentially said
> that everyone runs stops signs, so if you are here on a ticket for
> failing to stop for a stop sign, he knows you did it. What a waste of
> time.
5 minutes of watching a stop sign will confirm the truth of the judge's
statement.
Rocky
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> "Brent" <tetraethylle...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > On 2010-01-02, Rocky <woo...@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "shortly after the first of the year?" That is bull because the speed
> >> limit
> >> for trucks in Illinois changed at midnight not "shortly after the first
> >> of
> >> the year" and all anybody had to do to verify that for themselves was
ask
> >> a
> >> State Patrol Officer at a truck stop just like I did. The Officer told
> >> me
> >> the speed limit was 65 then he asked me if I drive a Truck. I said yes
> >> and
> >> then he said they just haven't changed the signs yet.
> >>
> >> http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/96/HB/PDF/09600HB3956lv.pdf
> >
> > Might be a good idea to wait for the signs given the nature of cops and
> > traffic court. Especially in IL where the finer points of the law are
> > ignored in traffic and adminstrative court. Some 'judges' will decide it
> > was speeding because of what the sign read, not what the law is.
>
> Another dsyfuncational staple of the trucking message forums and news
> groups. Whether the speed limits for truck has or has not increased,
> whether it has or will shortly become effective, why not wait, like Brent
> said, until the signs change.
Scott, don't forget about so called rumors of Ohio raising the speed limit
on the turnpike that was supported by the Internet and then photos of signs
being changed the day the speed limit changed as in:
http://wookiee.home.att.net/OhioAt65/
> I swear every time some truck driver hears a rumor that some state
> somewhere
"rumor?" Dude, it was fact before when Ohio raised the speed limit on the
turnpike so why shouldn't it be fact this time too.
Don't forget, I monitored the passing of the bill in Illinois for weeks
before it passed and you would have known that if you had been watching the
following thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.transport.trucking/msg/12913372d22ea9e2
> I don't undrestand why this topic is such a
> chestnut in the trucking forums.
Because IDIOTS like you make a BFD over it. Just like you did when you
claimed I was Richard in February of 2004.
http://MTT.JusticeGoneWild.com
The facts remain. The law is on the books and there are sites that have
informed us, being the truck drivers that drive in Illinois, that the signs
will change on the 4th weather permitting.
The signs don't make the law the law makes the law with the only
questionable areas where the speed limit will be raised being Interstates
that go around or through metropolitan areas.
Rocky
realitytrucker
>
> That is a bummer because now I have to be stopped to post a message to a
> newsgroup and then indicate a stop on my log book.
>
Why would anyone in their right mind feel a need to do this in the
first place?? Are you so desperate for attention that you can't wait
until you go home to force your idiotic posts on the members of a
newsgroup?
Harry K
I was wondering the same and am hoping he was either being sarcastic
or joking.
Harry K
Rocky
"Harry K" <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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realitytrasher has been giving me shit ever since I answered a question
about flatbeds properly.
http://mtt.JusticeGoneWild.com
he is the one with a major problem since he was flatbed challenged and
taking the word of another flatbed challenged poster. It wouldn't be until
January 2008 that 3 other posters would inform rt that he was wrong.
Your best bet is to completely ignore the troll just like I have been doing
since January 10, 2009.
Rocky
realitytrucker
What he is .... is a phoney. If you feel like digging thru 5 or so
years of his posts you'll see what I mean. He's not truck driver,
unless you mean the "Tonka" type.
realitytrucker
> "Harry K" <turnkey4...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 3, 9:05 pm, realitytrucker <timp1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> realitytrasher has been giving me shit ever since I answered a question
> about flatbeds properly.http://mtt.JusticeGoneWild.com
I've been giving you shit since I discovered what a moron you really
are. Took about a half a dozen posts.
>
> he is the one with a major problem since he was flatbed challenged and
> taking the word of another flatbed challenged poster. It wouldn't be until
> January 2008 that 3 other posters would inform rt that he was wrong.
Rather be "flatbed challenged" than reality challenged any day.
>
> Your best bet is to completely ignore the troll just like I have been doing
> since January 10, 2009.
>
> Rocky
Yes,by all means ignore that wannabe.
Rocky
Now there are stretches of I55 where there are no "Speed Limit 55"
signs but there are stretches that still have the signs in place. It
is obvious some signs should come down but I'm not sure if they are
all supposed to come down.
Rocky
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Harry K
Nope, he's bragging about texting while driving a big rig.
But don't worry, he doesn't have a CDL anyway.
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B
I regularly drove from Kankakee to Mattoon (125 mile) on a regular basis
and there was always trucks doing under 60 MPH.
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Rocky
> On 2010-01-02, Rocky <woo...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > "shortly after the first of the year?" That is bull because the speed limit
> > for trucks in Illinois changed at midnight not "shortly after the first of
> > the year" and all anybody had to do to verify that for themselves was ask a
> > State Patrol Officer at a truck stop just like I did. The Officer told me
> > the speed limit was 65 then he asked me if I drive a Truck. I said yes and
> > then he said they just haven't changed the signs yet.
> >
> > http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/96/HB/PDF/09600HB3956lv.pdf
>
> Might be a good idea to wait for the signs
Most of the old 55 mph signs on I80 have been taken down now. I hear
that there is even a Truck Speed Limit 65 mph sign somewhere on I80.
Maybe I'll see it tomorrow.
Rocky
Rocky
The sign that says Trucks Over 4 Tons Speed Limit 65 is about 6 feet
away from milepost 123.
And even though 5 Illinois Counties kept the split speed limit at
least one of those Counties lowered the speed limit for cars to 55.
Now cars will see Speed Limit 55 on I55 at milepost 263 instead of
closer to downtown Chicago.
Rocky - knows
JerryD(upstateNY)
And nobody gives a shit about you foolish updates.
What is this 10-12 updates on the speed limit signs ?
hehehehehehe
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Free Lunch
in misc.transport.road:
Any bets on whether that will affect the speeds driven?
>Rocky - knows
richard
> Rocky - knows next to nothing
Cops never paid attention to the signs nor has anyone else.
The rockford-ohare buses would run 70 and the cops never once saw them.
Rocky
Good point. Even though about 20 miles of I55 has been lowered for cars
from 65 mph to 55 mph it doesn't seem to have phased any of the 4 wheelers.
.
Free Lunch
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>
I have been on I-90 (NW) a lot but I don't bother much looking at the
speed limits on it. I think that it might be as you go into Cook County,
though the only time anyone slows below 65-70 on I-90 before the Kennedy
is because of bad roads or congestion.
Harry K
> On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 08:57:22 -0800 (PST), Rocky <wook...@att.net> wrote
> in misc.transport.road:
>
>
>
>
>
> >Rocky wrote:
> >> Brent wrote:
>
> >> > > "shortly after the first of the year?" That is bull because the speed limit
> >> > > for trucks in Illinois changed at midnight not "shortly after the first of
> >> > > the year" and all anybody had to do to verify that for themselves was ask a
> >> > > State Patrol Officer at a truck stop just like I did. The Officer told me
> >> > > the speed limit was 65 then he asked me if I drive a Truck. I said yes and
> >> > > then he said they just haven't changed the signs yet.
>
> >> > >http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/96/HB/PDF/09600HB3956lv.pdf
>
> >> > Might be a good idea to wait for the signs
>
> >> Most of the old 55 mph signs on I80 have been taken down now. I hear
> >> that there is even a Truck Speed Limit 65 mph sign somewhere on I80.
> >> Maybe I'll see it tomorrow.
>
> >The sign that says Trucks Over 4 Tons Speed Limit 65 is about 6 feet
> >away from milepost 123.
>
> >And even though 5 Illinois Counties kept the split speed limit at
> >least one of those Counties lowered the speed limit for cars to 55.
> >Now cars will see Speed Limit 55 on I55 at milepost 263 instead of
> >closer to downtown Chicago.
>
> Any bets on whether that will affect the speeds driven?
>
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Only if there are heavy 'emphasis patrols'
Harry K
Rocky
"Rocky" <woo...@att.net> wrote in message
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> Brent wrote:
> > On 2010-01-02, Rocky <woo...@att.net> wrote:
> >
> > > "shortly after the first of the year?" That is bull because the speed
limit
> > > for trucks in Illinois changed at midnight not "shortly after the
first of
> > > the year" and all anybody had to do to verify that for themselves was
ask a
> > > State Patrol Officer at a truck stop just like I did. The Officer
told me
> > > the speed limit was 65 then he asked me if I drive a Truck. I said
yes and
> > > then he said they just haven't changed the signs yet.
> > >
> > > http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/96/HB/PDF/09600HB3956lv.pdf
> >
> > Might be a good idea to wait for the signs
>
> Most of the old 55 mph signs on I80 have been taken down now.
It took a while but the old 55 mph signs have been removed from I74 before
it crosses the Mississippi River and they have been removed I280 before it
crosses the Mississippi.
Until just recently as soon as you crossed I280 into Illinois you would
still see those old Speed limit 55 signs. Now those signs are gone and they
even put up a new Speed Limit 65 sign that you see as soon as you cross the
I280 bridge into Illinois.
The last place I know of where there were still Speed Limit 55 signs was
about 10 miles in Springfield, Illinois. They had the old 55 mph signs on
I55 from MP 99 to MP 88 but they could be removed by now too.
I guess I'm going to give Quinn my vote on February 2nd.
Rocky
Rocky
I spoke to another driver and he makes it sound like the "Speed Limit 55"
signs have been removed in Springfield, Illinois too but he doesn't know
exactly where the speed limit changes on I55 around Chicago.
Rocky
Rocky
On I55 the speed limit for trucks changes to 65 mph at exit 233.
On I57 north of I80 the speed limit for cars was lowered to 55 mph.
On I57 south of I80 I can't say what happens because I don't go very far
south of I80 on I57.
BTW I hear that the fine for trucks going over the limit it twice what it
used to be.
Plus, I have driven through Springfield in the last month and all the split
speed limit signs for trucks have been taken down. I'll bet they came down
as soon as the weather started getting better.
Rocky
Brent
> On I57 north of I80 the speed limit for cars was lowered to 55 mph.
It has been 55mph since the NMSL went into effect in the 1970s.
Rocky
> On 2010-04-14, Rocky <woo...@att.net> wrote:
>
> > On I57 north of I80 the speed limit for cars was lowered to 55 mph.
>
> It has been 55mph since the NMSL went into effect in the 1970s.
Then cars never drove close to that limit before January 1st.
Brent
>
> "Brent" <tetraethylle...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> On 2010-04-14, Rocky <woo...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On I57 north of I80 the speed limit for cars was lowered to 55 mph.
>>
>> It has been 55mph since the NMSL went into effect in the 1970s.
>
> Then cars never drove close to that limit before January 1st.
Well duh. The NMSL was never widely obeyed. Although lately people are
driving a lot slower on chicago area interstates. Speeds where I was
damn near the slowest driver on the road now have me passing as if I
were doing 85mph a couple years back. I really haven't seen a greater
presence of ISP working to increase the state government's revenue to
pull them out of the hole so I am not sure as to why the sudden change.