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Feb 4, 2012, 12:31:59 PM2/4/12
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/fl-move-over-push-20120203,0,4392084.story
Crackdown in effect for 'Move Over' law violators
8:31 p.m. EST, February 3, 2012
If you spot Cpl. John Baker stopped on the side of the road, you may
want to change lanes.
Officials say that could save a life and spare you a $165 fine.
Baker, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper, is among the thousands of
Florida law enforcement agents who plan to keep an eye out this month
for violators of the state's "Move Over" law as part of a education
campaign.
The law requires drivers to move over at least one lane away from any
emergency vehicle or tow truck parked on the roadside with its
emergency lights on.
If moving over can't be done safely or when traveling on a two-lane
roadway, the driver is required to slow down to 20 mph under the
posted speed limit.
Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
motorists
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Dave Head
Feb 7, 2012, 9:49:08 AM2/7/12
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an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.
N8N
Feb 7, 2012, 12:40:04 PM2/7/12
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On Feb 7, 9:49 am, Dave Head <rally...@att.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
> GM loves highway criminals <beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
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> >http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/fl-move-over-push-2012020...
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> >Crackdown in effect for 'Move Over' law violators
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> >8:31 p.m. EST, February 3, 2012
> >If you spot Cpl. John Baker stopped on the side of the road, you may
> >want to change lanes.
>
> >Officials say that could save a life and spare you a $165 fine.
>
> >Baker, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper, is among the thousands of
> >Florida law enforcement agents who plan to keep an eye out this month
> >for violators of the state's "Move Over" law as part of a education
> >campaign.
>
> >The law requires drivers to move over at least one lane away from any
> >emergency vehicle or tow truck parked on the roadside with its
> >emergency lights on.
>
> >If moving over can't be done safely or when traveling on a two-lane
> >roadway, the driver is required to slow down to 20 mph under the
> >posted speed limit.
>
> >Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
> >officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
> >say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
> >stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
> >motorists
>
> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.
We have a similar law here in VA; I try to obey it but it seems that
> >Crackdown in effect for 'Move Over' law violators
>
> >8:31 p.m. EST, February 3, 2012
> >If you spot Cpl. John Baker stopped on the side of the road, you may
> >want to change lanes.
>
> >Officials say that could save a life and spare you a $165 fine.
>
> >Baker, a Florida Highway Patrol trooper, is among the thousands of
> >Florida law enforcement agents who plan to keep an eye out this month
> >for violators of the state's "Move Over" law as part of a education
> >campaign.
>
> >The law requires drivers to move over at least one lane away from any
> >emergency vehicle or tow truck parked on the roadside with its
> >emergency lights on.
>
> >If moving over can't be done safely or when traveling on a two-lane
> >roadway, the driver is required to slow down to 20 mph under the
> >posted speed limit.
>
> >Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
> >officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
> >say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
> >stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
> >motorists
>
> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.
for the most part it's ignored. And it's not slow to 20 MPH, but 35
MPH (55 MPH - 20 MPH) but that still is not really a good idea given
that traffic generally is flowing faster and drivers are generally
oblivious. For that reason I will opt to change lanes instead
whenever possible.
nate
Dave Head
Feb 7, 2012, 1:35:33 PM2/7/12
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On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:40:04 -0800 (PST), N8N <njn...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Yeah, I'm in Virginia too, and think our law sucks as well. I'll try
to change lanes, but it is thoroughly dangerous, as this state has
MORE of those that think that they have to drive RIGHT BESIDE YOU,
rather than behind or ahead, so changing lanes is seriously risky
unless you can absolutely determine that there is no one there. If I
can't determine that satisfactorily, I'll slow a little, and if they
don't like that, they can just chase me. When the law says one thing
and safety says another, I go with safety.
wrote:
to change lanes, but it is thoroughly dangerous, as this state has
MORE of those that think that they have to drive RIGHT BESIDE YOU,
rather than behind or ahead, so changing lanes is seriously risky
unless you can absolutely determine that there is no one there. If I
can't determine that satisfactorily, I'll slow a little, and if they
don't like that, they can just chase me. When the law says one thing
and safety says another, I go with safety.
Bert
Feb 7, 2012, 1:40:42 PM2/7/12
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In news:qae2j71rg49iucn6e...@4ax.com Dave Head
That doesn't matter.
The law is intended to protect police and other government agents; they
don't care what happens to civilian drivers as a result.
--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
The law is intended to protect police and other government agents; they
don't care what happens to civilian drivers as a result.
--
be...@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
Dave Head
Feb 7, 2012, 1:50:42 PM2/7/12
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On 07 Feb 2012 18:40:42 GMT, Bert <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>In news:qae2j71rg49iucn6e...@4ax.com Dave Head
><rall...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
>> GM loves highway criminals <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
>>>officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
>>>say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
>>>stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
>>>motorists
>>>
>> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
>> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
>> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
>> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.
>
>That doesn't matter.
Anything that might result in me bleeding matters to me.
>In news:qae2j71rg49iucn6e...@4ax.com Dave Head
><rall...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 09:31:59 -0800 (PST), Car Crashes Mean Car Sales -
>> GM loves highway criminals <bet...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Ever since the law was adopted in Florida 10 years ago, state
>>>officials have conducted awareness campaigns in February. Authorities
>>>say that since 1999, 179 law enforcement officers nationwide who were
>>>stopped on the side of the highway have been fatally hit by passing
>>>motorists
>>>
>> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
>> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
>> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
>> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed.
>
>That doesn't matter.
>The law is intended to protect police and other government agents; they
>don't care what happens to civilian drivers as a result.
someone else, the cop ahead is likely to have TWO cars rushing at him
out of control. Wonder if they've thought of that.
The Real Bev
Feb 7, 2012, 3:39:13 PM2/7/12
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I think California passed something like that, I'd forgotten about it,
and I'm pretty sure everybody else did too. Doing anything different or
surprising on the freeway just increases the danger.
--
Cheers, Bev
===============================================================
I'd rather trust the guys in the lab coats who aren't demanding
that I get up early on Sundays to apologize for being human.
-- Captain Splendid
Gil
Feb 7, 2012, 8:30:53 PM2/7/12
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mph *less* than the *posted* speed limit. Not down to 20 mph.
Nick Naim
Feb 10, 2012, 4:28:08 PM2/10/12
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"Dave Head" <rall...@att.net> wrote in message
news:qae2j71rg49iucn6e...@4ax.com...
But still eh
ChrisCoaster
Feb 18, 2012, 3:35:24 PM2/18/12
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> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed. - Hide quoted text -
> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
>
> - Show quoted text -
_____________
Add to that not signalling before changing lanes, travelling too fast
for conditions, etc.
-CC
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The Real Bev
Feb 19, 2012, 3:30:19 PM2/19/12
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On 02/18/2012 07:43 PM, Mr.B1ack wrote:
> ChrisCoaster<ckoz...@snet.net> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 7, 9:49 am, Dave Head<rally...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
>>> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
>>> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
>>> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed. - Hide quoted text -
>>
> or killed because they're hit by cars while
> dealing with some other offender. Drivers
> either don't notice the cop standing there,
> or get fixated and their cars drift over
> even closer to the right. Those cop dashcam
> TV shows always have a few of these incidents,
> some absolutely horrific.
Standard procedure here is for the cop car to park behind the victim,
but offset by 4-6 feet "to protect the officer". This means the cop car
may be parked right at the edge of the shoulder, and on city streets
ALWAYS means that the cop car blocks part of the next lane over.
Drunks are apparently drawn to lights, especially flashing ones, which
might explain why they hit parked cars with their lights on. Like cop cars.
--
Cheers, Bev
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Friends help you move. *Real* friends help you move bodies."
--A. Walker
> ChrisCoaster<ckoz...@snet.net> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 7, 9:49 am, Dave Head<rally...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like a formula for disaster. Any time one changes lanes there's
>>> an opportunity to screw that up since so many people/bozos like to
>>> ride in people's blind spots, and slowing to 20 mph on an
>>> interstate-style highway is asking to get rear-ended at high speed. - Hide quoted text -
>>
>>Add to that not signalling before changing lanes, travelling too fast
>>for conditions, etc.
>
> Rather a lot of cops/troopers get injured
>>for conditions, etc.
>
> or killed because they're hit by cars while
> dealing with some other offender. Drivers
> either don't notice the cop standing there,
> or get fixated and their cars drift over
> even closer to the right. Those cop dashcam
> TV shows always have a few of these incidents,
> some absolutely horrific.
Standard procedure here is for the cop car to park behind the victim,
but offset by 4-6 feet "to protect the officer". This means the cop car
may be parked right at the edge of the shoulder, and on city streets
ALWAYS means that the cop car blocks part of the next lane over.
Drunks are apparently drawn to lights, especially flashing ones, which
might explain why they hit parked cars with their lights on. Like cop cars.
--
Cheers, Bev
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Friends help you move. *Real* friends help you move bodies."
--A. Walker
ChrisCoaster
Feb 19, 2012, 4:38:18 PM2/19/12
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On Feb 19, 3:30 pm, The Real Bev <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 02/18/2012 07:43 PM, Mr.B1ack wrote:
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> > ChrisCoaster<ckozi...@snet.net> wrote:
> On 02/18/2012 07:43 PM, Mr.B1ack wrote:
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Well the last 3 cars I've owned all pulled to the LEFT(regardless of
> - Show quoted text -
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how many shops had done the alignment on them) so that's not a problem
here. LMAO!
-CC
necromancer
Feb 19, 2012, 10:50:00 PM2/19/12
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Judy "Shit 4 Brains" Dairya spewed:
>Crackdown in effect for 'Move Over' law violators
>
>8:31 p.m. EST, February 3, 2012
>If you spot Cpl. John Baker stopped on the side of the road,
Most likely staging an accident or traffic stop...
>you may want to change lanes.
Lest you get robbed by a highwayman like cpl baker...
>Officials say that could save a life and spare you a $165 fine.
I hope you get tagged for this on a daily basis.
O,BTW: learn how to spell, "Florida," you dumb fucking septic. Or
better yet, just slit your wrists...
--
S&DDAM admits to putting others in danger with its beater:
"Foot pumps are a joke. I had one once and since the piston only moves like
2 inches it took 50 pumps to raise the pressure by one psi. Go with the
hand pumps where the piston moves around 15 inches. One of my tires has
exposed cords and i have to pump it up every week. "
--Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, 3/6/08
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/yvrmhl
Msg ID: Xns9A59DDA463296r...@216.168.3.70
>Crackdown in effect for 'Move Over' law violators
>
>8:31 p.m. EST, February 3, 2012
>If you spot Cpl. John Baker stopped on the side of the road,
>you may want to change lanes.
>Officials say that could save a life and spare you a $165 fine.
O,BTW: learn how to spell, "Florida," you dumb fucking septic. Or
better yet, just slit your wrists...
--
S&DDAM admits to putting others in danger with its beater:
"Foot pumps are a joke. I had one once and since the piston only moves like
2 inches it took 50 pumps to raise the pressure by one psi. Go with the
hand pumps where the piston moves around 15 inches. One of my tires has
exposed cords and i have to pump it up every week. "
--Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, 3/6/08
Ref: http://tinyurl.com/yvrmhl
Msg ID: Xns9A59DDA463296r...@216.168.3.70
*us*
Feb 20, 2012, 6:59:45 AM2/20/12
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:50:00 -0500, necromancer
<Zidane's_Last_Red_Card@worldofnecromancer_no_spam_no_way.org> wrote:
>... learn how to spell, "Florida," ...
Subject line corrected.
<Zidane's_Last_Red_Card@worldofnecromancer_no_spam_no_way.org> wrote:
>... learn how to spell, "Florida," ...
Subject line corrected.
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The Real Bev
Feb 21, 2012, 12:40:53 AM2/21/12
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On 02/20/2012 07:19 PM, Mr.B1ack wrote:
> The Real Bev<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Standard procedure here is for the cop car to park behind the victim,
>>but offset by 4-6 feet "to protect the officer". This means the cop car
>>may be parked right at the edge of the shoulder, and on city streets
>>ALWAYS means that the cop car blocks part of the next lane over.
>
> 'Procedure' looks nice on paper ...
>
> But the real world is *messy*.
>
> Oh, and parking halfway out in a traffic
> lane is a gold-inlaid hand-engraved invitation
> to a HORRIFIC chain-reaction crash. People just
> do NOT notice vehicles being stopped in places
> where they *expect* them to be moving at the
> nominal speed.
The fact that they're the usual black&white with blinkylights mitigates
some, but it's a real nuisance if you're on a bicycle. Just like the
modern "roundouts" used as traffic calming and/or parking limitation
devices.
What's really annoying is when the cops park their cars in red zones AND
6 feet from the curb when they're not dealing with another car and then
tell you that they do it to protect the public.
Real shame that there's no upper limit to stupidity or arrogance.
--
Cheers, Bev
When you wish upon a falling star your dreams can come true. Unless
it's really a meteorite hurtling to the earth which will destroy all
life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for.
Unless it's death by meteor. --Demotivators
> The Real Bev<bashl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Standard procedure here is for the cop car to park behind the victim,
>>but offset by 4-6 feet "to protect the officer". This means the cop car
>>may be parked right at the edge of the shoulder, and on city streets
>>ALWAYS means that the cop car blocks part of the next lane over.
>
>
> But the real world is *messy*.
>
> Oh, and parking halfway out in a traffic
> lane is a gold-inlaid hand-engraved invitation
> to a HORRIFIC chain-reaction crash. People just
> do NOT notice vehicles being stopped in places
> where they *expect* them to be moving at the
> nominal speed.
The fact that they're the usual black&white with blinkylights mitigates
some, but it's a real nuisance if you're on a bicycle. Just like the
modern "roundouts" used as traffic calming and/or parking limitation
devices.
What's really annoying is when the cops park their cars in red zones AND
6 feet from the curb when they're not dealing with another car and then
tell you that they do it to protect the public.
Real shame that there's no upper limit to stupidity or arrogance.
--
Cheers, Bev
When you wish upon a falling star your dreams can come true. Unless
it's really a meteorite hurtling to the earth which will destroy all
life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for.
Unless it's death by meteor. --Demotivators
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