Interesting Highway Feature Names & Nicknames
Scott M. Kozel
How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
nicknames.
I'll start with a few.
The Mixing Bowl:
The huge interchange complex where Shirley Highway (I-395) junctions VA
27 Washington Blvd. and the Pentagon parking lots in Arlington, Va.
The Surekill Expressway:
I-76 in Philadelphia. Real name is Schuylkill Expressway (pronounced
Skoo-kill).
The Stack:
The four-level junction between two freeways in downtown Los Angeles (I
don't remember which, CA folks will have to enlighten!)
The Distribution Structure:
The interchange between I-80, I-580, and I-880 in Oakland, CA.
The Spaghetti Bowl:
An interchange between two freeways in downtown Dallas (again, the
freeways will have to be identified by others!)
Come on, guys! There has to be plenty of interesting names and
nicknames I don't know about! Think about highways, interchanges,
bridges, and tunnels.
Yes!
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Mike Ballard
The Stack in LA, AKA the Four-Level Interchange is between the Pasadena
Freeway (CA 110), the Harbor Freeway (CA 110 S of the junction), and the
Hollywood Freeway (US 101).
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Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>
> How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
> nicknames.
>
> I'll start with a few.
>
> The Mixing Bowl:
> The huge interchange complex where Shirley Highway (I-395) junctions VA
> 27 Washington Blvd. and the Pentagon parking lots in Arlington, Va.
>
According to my father, this is not even the true "mixing bowl." He
lived in Riverhouse, right next to I-395 back in 1968. He says that it
was much worse than it is today. For kicks he and his buddies would get
a cooler of beer, sit on the balcony, and watch the accidents on a
Friday night. I think it was rebuilt around 1972.
William F. Yurasko
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MarkA
In article <339F5B...@richmond.infi.net>,
"Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
>How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names
and
>nicknames.
>The Spaghetti Bowl:
>An interchange between two freeways in downtown Dallas (again, the
>freeways will have to be identified by others!)
>
It's where I30 and I35 meet just southwest of downtown Dallas.
MarkA
CCH...@musicb.mcgill.ca
In article <339fc1eb....@news.vnet.net> jo...@vnet.net (John Lansford) writes:
>"Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
>
>>How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
>>nicknames.
>>
>>nicknames I don't know about!
>
>220 both enter I-40/I-85 with no acceleration lane for either one of
>them. The two ramps also are within a few hundred feet of each other,
>so merging traffic tends to get a bit hectic as they speed up to
>squeeze into the through traffic on the Interstate.
>
>NCDOT has looked at fixing the problem, but a railroad overpass just
>downstream of the ramps would need to be lengthened and the costs got
>too high to build anytime soon (I know; it's my project one day).
>
>John Lansford
>.
Montreal has:
Decarie Ditch: a 2-mile+ strech of despressed expressway.
Whiskey Trench: depressed expressway passing by a Seagram
distillery - an approach to the Mercier Bridge.
The "Two-and-Twenty": refers to the route number (20) of the
highway. The route 2 designation disappeared 25 years ago,
when it was changed to route 20. (actually it was
originally numbered 2 [the Toronto highway] and 17 [the Ottawa
highway]). Traffic reporters and drivers still refer to it
as the 2 and 20.
Auckland, NZ has the "Nippon Clip-on" - a Japanese-made "outrigger"
attached to the Harbour Bridge, carrying a couple of additional
lanes of traffic - cheaper than building a new bridge.
Hugh.
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John R. Grout
"Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net> writes:
>
> How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
> nicknames.
>
> I'll start with a few.
>
> The Mixing Bowl:
> The huge interchange complex where Shirley Highway (I-395) junctions VA
> 27 Washington Blvd. and the Pentagon parking lots in Arlington, Va.
The Can of Worms:
The interchange of I-490, I-590/NY 590 and nearby surface streets in
Rochester, NY. It used to be a true mixing bowl, but was rebuilt a
few years back as a conventional three-level interchange (by limiting
the access of the surface street interchanges and building a flyover).
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Scott M. Kozel
William F. Yurasko wrote:
>
> Scott M. Kozel wrote:
> >
> > The Mixing Bowl:
> > The huge interchange complex where Shirley Highway (I-395) junctions VA
> > 27 Washington Blvd. and the Pentagon parking lots in Arlington, Va.
>
> lived in Riverhouse, right next to I-395 back in 1968. He says that it
> was much worse than it is today. For kicks he and his buddies would get
> a cooler of beer, sit on the balcony, and watch the accidents on a
> Friday night. I think it was rebuilt around 1972.
The Mixing Bowl was rebuilt from 1970 to 1973, as part of the
reconstruction of Shirley Highway. Shirley Highway (VA 350) was
completed from Woodbridge, VA to DC in 1952. It was reconstructed to
urban interstate standards from 1965 to 1975, in sections from south to
north. It was all designated I-95 then.
The original Shirley Highway was a four-lane expressway. The Mixing
Bowl interchange is where the VA 27 expressway merges with Shirley
Highway and then branches off again. The original interchange had a
merge section each way, about 1/3 mile long, with a third “mixing lane”
where the traffic would weave when they wanted to change to the other
expressway. By the late 1960s, it was a severe bottleneck during rush
hour. The rebuilt interchange has the same basic movements, but the
weaves takes place on grade-separated directional ramps. It is a
massive interchange. One cross-section point has 27 lanes on three
levels and 10 separate roadways.
H.B. Elkins
"Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
>How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
>nicknames.
>Come on, guys! There has to be plenty of interesting names and
>nicknames I don't know about! Think about highways, interchanges,
>bridges, and tunnels.
Spaghetti Junction:
The intersection of I-64, I-65 and I-71 in downtown Louisville.
Massacre Mountain:
The stretch of US 25E which was supplanted by the Cumberland Gap
Tunnel.
Dixie Die-way:
Dixie Highway (US 31W and US 60) south and west of Louisville.
Those are a few right off the top of my head.
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Ron Newman
The interchange of I-93 and US-1 in Charlestown, just across the
Charles River from Boston, is called "The Merge" on radio traffic reports.
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John Lansford
"Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
>How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
>nicknames.
>
>Come on, guys! There has to be plenty of interesting names and
>nicknames I don't know about!
Greensboro has Death Valley, which is where ramps from US 29 and US
Ray Mullins
There are many in Southern California, too numerous to accout here.
However, if you have AAA membership, stop by a Auto Club of So Cal and ask
for the "L.A. Freeway System" map. Highway features & nicknames are
highlited, such as Sepulveda Pass, the Orange Crush Interchange, the
4-Level (I have never heard it referred to as "The Stack").
In both downtown Dallas and Foat Wuth, the I-30 and I-35W/E interchanges
are known as "Mixmasters."
In downtown Denver, the I-25/I-70 interchange is "The Mousetrap."
In Atlanta, the NE interchange of I-85 and I-285 is "Spaghetti Junction",
so called because it was the first in the area with long, sweeping ramps
and overpasses.
Later,
Ray
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Jim Ellwanger
The I-4/I-275/Downtown-East/Downtown-West interchange in Tampa is usually
referred to as "Malfunction Junction."
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J Vincent
John Lansford wrote:
> Greensboro has Death Valley, which is where ramps from US 29 and US
> 220 both enter I-40/I-85 with no acceleration lane for either one of
> them. The two ramps also are within a few hundred feet of each other,
> so merging traffic tends to get a bit hectic as they speed up to
> squeeze into the through traffic on the Interstate.
>
> NCDOT has looked at fixing the problem, but a railroad overpass just
> downstream of the ramps would need to be lengthened and the costs got
> too high to build anytime soon (I know; it's my project one day).
Don't long-range plans exist for I-85 to completely bypass Greensboro to
the southeast? I thought that was why nothing was done around Greensboro
when I-85/40 was upgraded to eight lanes.
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Did anyone mention the Bow Tie? It's the I-91 / US-5 Interchange in West
Springfield, Massachusetts.
Brian Albert Doreste
In article <33A080...@mcs.net>,
J Vincent <jvincent--at--mcs--dot--net> wrote:
>Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>>
>> How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
>> nicknames.
>>
>>
>
>Isn't this also the "Surekill Distressway"?
I have heard it called both; take your pick. Now, while we are on the
topic of my favorite expressway (not), are there any votes for the worst
interchange on the Surekill? My first vote definately goes for the South
Street interchange and its merge-or-die on-ramps. My second vote most
certainly has to be the ramp with I-76 west and I-676 east by 30th Street
Station. The ramp is almost impossible to see under the viaduct, and
then there is a weave immediately followed by a hard right turn. PennDOT
was supposed to replace the attenuators at this ramp a few months ago, but
I guess that fell through; they must get hit almost daily. I can't
believe that this was part of the reconstruction project 10 years ago.
Any other votes?
- Brian
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J Vincent
Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>
> How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
> nicknames.
>
> I'll start with a few.
>
> The Surekill Expressway:
Isn't this also the "Surekill Distressway"?
> The Stack:
> The Distribution Structure:
> The Spaghetti Bowl:
Somebody already mentioned "Spaghetti Junction" for an interchange in
Louisville. I'm more familiar with it as the name for the 4-level
interchange of I-85 and I-285 northeast of Atlanta. This interchange is
officially referred to as (and signed as) the Tom Moreland Interchange.
Who is Tom Moreland, and do any other interchanges have formal honorary
names?
"The Circle" -- Intersection of the Kennedy, Eisenhower and Dan Ryan
Expressways and Congress Parkway near the Chicago Loop. It looks like a
circle from above.
"Dead Man's Curve" -- A curve posted at 25 mph on I-90 through downtown
Cleveland. Also, a hairpin on Massachusetts 2 in the Berkshires. I'm
sure other Dead Man's Curves exist.
"Suicide Six" -- U.S. 6 in eastern Connecticut.
The "Stretch of Death" -- Pennsylvania 28 between Pittsburgh's North
Side and Etna. Used less frequently nowadays than before, thanks to some
improvements, but the road's still far from perfect.
Jody L. Aho
Mike Ballard <mapm...@smartlink.net> wrote in article
<339F97...@smartlink.net>...
> The Stack in LA, AKA the Four-Level Interchange is between the Pasadena
> Freeway (CA 110), the Harbor Freeway (CA 110 S of the junction), and the
> Hollywood Freeway (US 101).
Another one is here in Duluth called "the can of worms" where I-35, I-535,
and US-53 all meet. It is also one of the few places where there's a
stoplight on an Interstate highway (at the junction of the northbound exit
from I-35 to US-53 and the southbound lanes of US-53 which turn into
southbound I-535. It is three levels in one part of the interchange.
Jody Aho
ja...@cp.duluth.mn.us
Jody L. Aho
Mike Ballard <mapm...@smartlink.net> wrote in article
<339F97...@smartlink.net>...
> The Stack in LA, AKA the Four-Level Interchange is between the Pasadena
> Freeway (CA 110), the Harbor Freeway (CA 110 S of the junction), and the
> Hollywood Freeway (US 101).
Another nicknamed feature is the "Seney Stretch" of M-28 in the eastern
Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Although not perfectly flat (but close), it
is perfectly straight for 23.6 miles between Seney and Shingleton. While
it's not as long as some of the others mentioned, it could also go under
the "loneliest road" posts from earlier as there are no gas stations along
this stretch, and it is the longest straight stretch of road in Michigan.
It is actually fairly frequently travelled, as it is on one of the two main
highways across the U.P.
Jody Aho
ja...@cp.duluth.mn.us
Tim Brown
There's a few funny names for roads where I live:
"Malfunction Junction" is the intersection of I-471 and US 27.
"Highway to Hell" is US 27 through Campbell County.
"IGA Viaduct" is what we call the US 27 bridge over I-275, because there
is an IGA supermarket right next to it.
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In article <339F5B...@richmond.infi.net>,
koz...@richmond.infi.net wrote:
>
> How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
> nicknames.
I can't believe nobody has mentioned The Loop in Chicago yet! :)
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John Lansford
J Vincent <NOSPAMj...@mcs.net> wrote:
>
>Don't long-range plans exist for I-85 to completely bypass Greensboro to
>the southeast? I thought that was why nothing was done around Greensboro
>when I-85/40 was upgraded to eight lanes.
>
Plenty was done on that side of Greensboro. I had the project that
widened I-85/I-40 to six lanes down to US 29. One of my colleagues had
the project that widened the same Interstate to 8 lanes a few miles
further out, and her successor has the Greensboro Bypass.
As you said, it will completely avoid this area, which presumably will
relieve traffic problems there. However, we've found that building a
bypass around Winston-Salem didn't really lower the traffic volumes
along old I-40 (now US 421) through downtown W-S. Recent traffic
counts still show US 421 carrying around 55,000 vpd, which was just a
bit lower than what it was carrying before I-40 was built south of
town.
I believe Death Valley will continue to live up to its name even after
the Greensboro Bypass is completed.
John Lansford
Perfect Vision Graphics
I'm sure lots of places have a 'Malfunction Junction' but that's is what
we in Dayton call the I-75/OH-4 split.
John R. Grout
wx_h...@hotmail.com writes:
>
> In article <339F5B...@richmond.infi.net>,
> koz...@richmond.infi.net wrote:
> >
> > How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
> > nicknames.
>
> I can't believe nobody has mentioned The Loop in Chicago yet! :)
The "Loop" is a elevated railroad structure... it is irrelevant to
the discussion.
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Scott M. Kozel
Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>
> (snip)
> (concerning Shirley Highway Mixing Bowl interchange)
> The rebuilt interchange has the same basic movements, but the
> weaves takes place on grade-separated directional ramps. It is a
> massive interchange. One cross-section point has 27 lanes on three
> levels and 10 separate roadways.
According to an Engineering News-Record feature article around 1973, the
rebuilt Mixing Bowl was the largest interchange complex in the world.
Something like 52 lane miles of roadway and ramps. The Mixing Bowl
includes not just the weave section, but also interchanges with the
Pentagon parking lots (which are huge) and Pentagon City.
Question, this may be hard to answer, what is the largest interchange
complex today?
Also, how about a list of other mixing bowls? Definition: a four-way
expressway junction, on a sharp skew, where interchange from one
expressway to another is done on a long weave section. I recall the
junction between the MD 10 and MD 100 expressways in Anne Arundel Co.,
MD, is a mixing bowl.
Scott M. Kozel
J Vincent wrote:
>
> (snip)
> Don't long-range plans exist for I-85 to completely bypass Greensboro to
> the southeast? I thought that was why nothing was done around Greensboro
> when I-85/40 was upgraded to eight lanes.
Is this bypass just for I-85, or will it be an I-40 bypass also?
Scott M. Kozel
Perfect Vision Graphics wrote:
>
> I'm sure lots of places have a 'Malfunction Junction' but that's is what
> we in Dayton call the I-75/OH-4 split.
I believe that the junction of I-40 and I-275 in downtown Knoxville, TN
used to be called Malfunction Junction. Before the I-640/I-75 bypass
was built, the interchange (I believe) was a simple trumpet interchange
between I-40 and I-75 north. It was quite congested. The bypass
removed a lot of traffic, and the interchange was rebuilt with
semi-directional ramps.
Larry Stone
>How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
>nicknames.
>The Distribution Structure:
>The interchange between I-80, I-580, and I-880 in Oakland, CA.
Never heard that one in 16+ years of living in the Bay Area. It's called
The Maze.
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MarkA wrote:
> In article <339F5B...@richmond.infi.net>,
> "Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
> >How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names
> and
> >nicknames.
>
> >The Spaghetti Bowl:
> >An interchange between two freeways in downtown Dallas (again, the
> >freeways will have to be identified by others!)
> >
> It's where I30 and I35 meet just southwest of downtown Dallas.
>
> MarkA
There's one in Queens, New York where the Long Island Expressway,
Grand Central Parkway, Whitestone Expressway and Van Wyck Expressway all
meet.
-pHIL
Scott M. Kozel
Larry Stone wrote:
>
> In article <339F5B...@richmond.infi.net>, koz...@richmond.infi.net wrote:
>
> >How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
> >nicknames.
>
> >The interchange between I-80, I-580, and I-880 in Oakland, CA.
>
> Never heard that one in 16+ years of living in the Bay Area. It's called
> The Maze.
I saw the term Distribution Structure used on a CalTrans web site about
the Cypress Freeway Replacement Project.
http://tresc.dot.ca.gov:80/Cypress/Cypress.html
I have heard The Maze used for that interchange also. It may be that
"Distribution Structure" is the engineer's term.
cp...@ibm.net
>The Distribution Structure:
>The interchange between I-80, I-580, and I-880 in Oakland, CA.
>
>An interchange between two freeways in downtown Dallas (again, the
>freeways will have to be identified by others!)
I-95 at the Occoquan River in Northern Virginia.
The 83's:
The short section of I-83 that runs along I-695
(Baltimore Beltway) between 83 inside the
Beltway (Jones Falls Expressway) and 83 outside
(Harrisburg Expressway).
Aaron Rever
On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 18:54:15 -0400, "Scott M. Kozel"
<koz...@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
>Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>According to an Engineering News-Record feature article around 1973, the
>rebuilt Mixing Bowl was the largest interchange complex in the world.
>Something like 52 lane miles of roadway and ramps. The Mixing Bowl
>includes not just the weave section, but also interchanges with the
>Pentagon parking lots (which are huge) and Pentagon City.
>
>Question, this may be hard to answer, what is the largest interchange
>complex today?
I believe one of the largest (most massive) interchanges is currently
the newly-expanded interchange between the Century Freeway (I-105) and
the Harbor Freeway (I-110) in Los Angeles. It's a five-level monster,
including direct ramps for HOV lane to HOV lane! I believe I've read
that it's over 125 feet tall at its highest point, and involves about
50-60 lane-miles of ramps. At any rate, it sure is up there! I'd say
another interesting one is simply the East LA Interchange, where I-5,
I-10, and CA-60 join together, along with several surface streets.
Very long, very confusing, lots of accidents, narrow lanes, etc...
etc... Perhaps that's another "mixing bowl"??
Aaron
loop...@127.0.0.1
Here's some more:
I-80/580/(880) in Oakland - the McArthur Maze ("what you call corn!")
I-40 and I-25 in Albuquerque - the Octopus (kind of a tame interchange,
but where else do 2 freeways cross in New Mexico?
I-95, I-91 and CT 34 in New Haven - the Mixmaster
U.S. 6 from I-384 to Willimantic, CT - "Suicide 6" featured in Dateline
NBC a while ago
There was a thread on interchange names about 8 months ago; you can
check deja news, or wait for the next go-round :-)
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In article <y0vwwny...@ehsn5.cen.uiuc.edu>,
j-g...@ehsn5.cen.uiuc.edu (John R. Grout) wrote:
> The "Loop" is a elevated railroad structure... it is irrelevant to
> the discussion.
Whoops -- you're right. "The Loop" also refers to that neighborhood, but
not to the highways. I slipped.
Raymond F. Greenberg
On Sat, 14 Jun 1997 01:27:25 -0800, loop...@127.0.0.1 wrote:
>Here's some more:
>I-80/580/(880) in Oakland - the McArthur Maze ("what you call corn!")
>I-40 and I-25 in Albuquerque - the Octopus (kind of a tame interchange,
>but where else do 2 freeways cross in New Mexico?
>I-95, I-91 and CT 34 in New Haven - the Mixmaster
>U.S. 6 from I-384 to Willimantic, CT - "Suicide 6" featured in Dateline
>NBC a while ago
Well, I have my *own* name for the intersection of I-476 (the Blue
Route) and I-76 (the Schuykill Expwy) near Philadelphia: "Jackknife
Junction", because of all the trucks which fail to negotiate the sharp
curves and end up falling over!!
Any "official" unofficial names for this intersection out there?
Raymond F. Greenberg
John Lansford
"Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
>J Vincent wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>> Don't long-range plans exist for I-85 to completely bypass Greensboro to
>> the southeast? I thought that was why nothing was done around Greensboro
>> when I-85/40 was upgraded to eight lanes.
>
>Is this bypass just for I-85, or will it be an I-40 bypass also?
The first segment will travel from I-40/I-85 east of Greensboro to
I-85 south of town. Ultimately there will be a loop all the way around
Greensboro, which will carry both I-85 and I-40 without going through
downtown.
John Lansford
C.C. Slater
In article <339F5B...@richmond.infi.net>, "Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net> writes:
>How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
>nicknames.
>
>
>The Mixing Bowl:
>27 Washington Blvd. and the Pentagon parking lots in Arlington, Va.
>
>The Surekill Expressway:
>I-76 in Philadelphia. Real name is Schuylkill Expressway (pronounced
>Skoo-kill).
>
>The Stack:
>The four-level junction between two freeways in downtown Los Angeles (I
>don't remember which, CA folks will have to enlighten!)
>
>The Distribution Structure:
>The interchange between I-80, I-580, and I-880 in Oakland, CA.
>
>The Spaghetti Bowl:
>An interchange between two freeways in downtown Dallas (again, the
>freeways will have to be identified by others!)
>
>nicknames I don't know about! Think about highways, interchanges,
>bridges, and tunnels.
>
>Yes!
>
>_______________________________________________________________________
> Scott M. Kozel
> koz...@richmond.infi.net
AKA "The Mousetrap"-I don't know where that particular name comes from
but this intechange had a notorious left-hand weaving section on IH 70
until it was rebuilt in the early 90's. Nasty little jug-handle ramps,
too. Not a place for the timid driver.
Locally, we have "Moose Curve" between MP 42 and MP 43 on IH 68. It's
a sharp nasty bit at the foot of a 6% grade. More than a few trucks have
lost their loads there! On the eastbound 68 there's a 20' high wall to
catch the trucks. It's fairly effective.
c/s
Raymond F. Greenberg
On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 00:51:28 -0600, wx_h...@hotmail.com wrote:
>In article <339F5B...@richmond.infi.net>,
> koz...@richmond.infi.net wrote:
>>
>> How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
>> nicknames.
Some years ago I heard that the short stretch of US 1/US 9 between the
Pulaski Skyway and the Holland Tunnel in Jersey City was called
"Depressed Highway" (right after it leaves 1 & 9) because it goes
under local Jersey City streets. Years ago, I used to travel that
stretch when my family visited New York, and believe me, it *is*
depressing!!
Raymond F. Greenberg
Scott M. Kozel
John Lansford wrote:
>
> (snip)
> The first segment will travel from I-40/I-85 east of Greensboro to
> I-85 south of town. Ultimately there will be a loop all the way around
> Greensboro, which will carry both I-85 and I-40 without going through
> downtown.
Interesting! I wondered what the plans for I-40/I-85 in Greensboro
were. This thread is the first time I heard about a new bypass.
Approximately at what mileposts will each of the three junctions be
(I-40 west, I-85 south, and I-40/I-85 east)?
A loop "all the way around"? Does this mean a full beltway?
Vincent Valenti
On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 22:37:22 -0400, Phil Lerman <ph...@picante.com>
wrote:
> There's one in Queens, New York where the Long Island Expressway,
>Grand Central Parkway, Whitestone Expressway and Van Wyck Expressway all
>meet.
>
>-pHIL
>
Nope, not at the same place. The LIE meets the Grand Central just 1/4
mile before it meets the Van Wyck, but it's NOT at the same
intersection. Plus the Van Wyck IS the Whitestone Expressway (both
I-678) it just changes names, and that isn't until about 2.5 miles
further north.
Now there IS a wild intersection in the Bronx, where the Cross Bronx
Expressway (I-95), the Bruckner Expressway (I-278) and the Huchincon
River Parkway/Whitestone Bridge Approach (I-678) all meet at one
place. The tangle of ramps is a sight to behold, especially since the
Cross Bronx and the Bruckner cross each other at about a 30-45 degree
angle.
Jerky!
Brian Albert Doreste
In article <5nu7jr$8vv$2...@fish.vf.pond.com>,
Raymond F. Greenberg <rayg...@pond.com> wrote:
>
>Well, I have my *own* name for the intersection of I-476 (the Blue
>Route) and I-76 (the Schuykill Expwy) near Philadelphia: "Jackknife
>Junction", because of all the trucks which fail to negotiate the sharp
>curves and end up falling over!!
Has anyone else noticed that PennDOT _still_ hasn't replaced the rail on
the overpass from I-76 west to I-476 south after that tanker truck flipped
over on the ramp and caught fire a few years ago?
JDunlop
>Subject: Re: Greensboro I-85 (was:Interesting Highway Feature Names &
Nicknames)
>From: "Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net>
>Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 10:31:12 -0400
>Message-ID: <33A2AB...@richmond.infi.net>
>
>John Lansford wrote:
>
> (snip)
> The first segment will travel from I-40/I-85 east of Greensboro to
> I-85 south of town. Ultimately there will be a loop all the way around
> Greensboro, which will carry both I-85 and I-40 without going through
> downtown.
>
>Interesting! I wondered what the plans for I-40/I-85 in Greensboro
>were. This thread is the first time I heard about a new bypass.
>Approximately at what mileposts will each of the three junctions be
>(I-40 west, I-85 south, and I-40/I-85 east)?
On I-40/85 heading west/south towards Greensboro, the new I-85 will split
off right where the road currently goes from eight lanes to six (four to
three in each direction.) That's approximately mile marker 132 or so
(doing this from memory.)
Not sure exactly where it comes back to existing I-85 south of Greensboro,
but if I had to guess, I'd say where 95 business loop splits off and heads
towards High Point. (Again, I do not know exactly where on the south
leg.)
>A loop "all the way around"? Does this mean a full beltway?
Eventually, yes.
James H. Dunlop, P.E.
Durham, NC
Matthew E. Salek
Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>
> How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
> nicknames.
[examples snipped]
> Come on, guys! There has to be plenty of interesting names and
> nicknames I don't know about! Think about highways, interchanges,
> bridges, and tunnels.
>
> Yes!
C. C. Slater mentioned this one already, but I'll say it again:
-"The Mousetrap"
aka the jct. of I-25/I-70 in Denver. If you're wondering where that name comes
from, I'm the wrong person to ask. All I know is it's used an awful lot on the
morning and evening traffic reports.
-"The Dugway"
This is WI 95 through Fountain City, WI. Beginning 500 feet above town, WI 95
comes down a steep grade into town. It's not curvy, but it is residential (25
mph limit) the whole way. At the bottom, there is a T intersection with WI 35
downtown. There have been numerous runaway truck accidents over the years (one
time a whole building was taken out). At the top of the hill there are hughe
signs that say "STOP AHEAD: AT BOTTOM OF GRADE", "STEEP GRADE: TRUCKS USE
LOWEST GEAR", "STEEP GRADE: 9%", etc. There is even a yellow falshing light.
There is a huge debate going on now what to do about the accidents. Some of
the solutions tossed around have been adding a pull-off area at the top to let
truckers check their brakes, installing a runaway ramp (scrapped beacuse it
would be impossible in the middle of a town), and routing trucks on to a
county highway which has a more gental grade.
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> Okay, Scott, here's one for you: The IH 70/25 junction in Denver:
> AKA "The Mousetrap"-I don't know where that particular name comes from
> but this intechange had a notorious left-hand weaving section on IH 70
> until it was rebuilt in the early 90's. Nasty little jug-handle ramps,
> too. Not a place for the timid driver.
>
> Locally, we have "Moose Curve" between MP 42 and MP 43 on IH 68. It's
> a sharp nasty bit at the foot of a 6% grade. More than a few trucks have
> lost their loads there! On the eastbound 68 there's a 20' high wall to
> catch the trucks. It's fairly effective.
> c/s
The curves on Interstate 70 in Kansas City, Missouri (which are rather
sharp for an interstate) have names as well, although they escape me.
Perhaps somepne else can fill us in...
Paul Sullivan
OK, this one _has_ to be unique.
The section of US Route 202 between Belchertown and Athol, Massachusetts, is
known as the Alimentary Canal.
Either you get it or you don't.
-- Paul
Paul Sullivan
Speaking of trucks flipping over ...
This one I am sure is generic and has many counterparts but Massachusetts
Route 2 has an infamous "Hairpin Turn" in the Berkshires.
-- Paul
John Lansford
"Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
>Interesting! I wondered what the plans for I-40/I-85 in Greensboro
>were. This thread is the first time I heard about a new bypass.
>Approximately at what mileposts will each of the three junctions be
>(I-40 west, I-85 south, and I-40/I-85 east)?
The new segment will leave I-40 East a bit east of the exit where
Replacements, Limited is located. That interchange will be
reconstructed (yes I know it was recently rebuilt; such is progress)
to accomodate the additional lanes.
I'm not exactly sure where it reenters I-85 south of town.
Eventually, it will enter I-40 west of town in the trees beside the
old Cega-Geigy plant (just to the west of all those oil and gas
storage facilities). The exit just west of there will be removed.
>A loop "all the way around"? Does this mean a full beltway?
Eventually, but don't hold your breath waiting on it. The southern
half will probably be the first portion built, from I-85/I-40 East of
town to I-85 south, then up to I-40 West.
John Lansford, PE
Ray Mullins
In article <33a228da....@news.hemi.com>,
Aaron Rever <are...@hemi.com> wrote:
My vote has always been the I-5/CA-14/I-210/I-405/CA-118 + truck lanes
mess in the northern San Fernando Valley, that is during times that the
CA-14 SB->I-5 SB, I-5 SB->CA-14 NB, and I-5 SB->I-210 EB lanes aren't
being rebuilt due to minor earthquakes in the area...(and I include the
I-405/CA-118 as part of that complex.)
BTW, the I-15/CA-14 complex has been named after the L.A.P.D. motor officer
who didn't remember 1971...
Later,
Ray
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MarkA
In article <33A1CF...@richmond.infi.net>,
>expressway junction, on a sharp skew, where interchange from one
>expressway to another is done on a long weave section.
The following interchanges would fit that definition:
- I10-I45 just northwest of downtown Houston
- I10-US59 just northeast of downtown Houston
- I435-I470-US71 in southeast KC
- I30-I35 in downtown Dallas
MarkA
William F. Yurasko
> This is not quite right.
>
> The Tonnelle (pronounced 'tun-nel-lee') Avenue traffic circle in Jersey City
> is the junction of Truck US 1/US 9 south (a surface street heading west), US
> 1/US 9 south (an elevated highway heading west which becomes the Pulaski
> Skyway), US 1/US 9 north (Tonnelle Avenue heading north), and the highway to
> which you refer (which is still above grade at Tonnelle Avenue). It is signed
> as "To US 1/US 9" westbound (from the tunnel toward the traffic circle).
>
> If memory serves, traffic reports usually called it "the Holland Tunnel
> [something]", but I don't remember what (viaduct, ala the Lincoln Tunnel, is
> unlikely, because the highway is below grade).
>
> --
> John R. Grout john....@reasoning.com
> My postings are not official statements by Reasoning, Inc.
The offical designation of this route is NJ 139. However, don't expect
to see a sign for it, because there are no traditional ones. It appears
on the NJ State Highway Map, and now, on a "YOUR HIGHWAY TAXES AT WORK"
sign. From time to time its also been shown on maps as BUS US 1 from US
1/9 to the tunnel, along 12th St eastbound and 14th street westbound.
This is where I-78 ends, too. Lastly, if you go up to 18th street and
Jersey Ave. you can see the poorly marked intersection where I totaled
my beloved Buick Park Ave., Moby.
A quick aside- how many of our tax dollars are being spent for the YTDAW
signs? ;>
William F. Yurasko
http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/1695/beltway.htm
Oscar Voss
MarkA replied to:
>
> > how about a list of other mixing bowls? Definition: a four-way
> >expressway junction, on a sharp skew, where interchange from one
> >expressway to another is done on a long weave section.
>
> The following interchanges would fit that definition:
> - I10-I45 just northwest of downtown Houston
> - I10-US59 just northeast of downtown Houston
> - I435-I470-US71 in southeast KC
> - I30-I35 in downtown Dallas
>
I-805/CA 163 to the north, are simple, classic "mixing bowls."
In Los Angeles, I-5/CA 134; also, US 101/CA 134/CA 170, and
I-5/I-10/US 101/CA 60 (I think this mess gets called something less
complimentary
than "mixing bowl").
In Oakland, I think the junction of I-80/I-580/(closed by quake damage)
I-880 qualifies as a "mixing bowl;" but is that interchange being
reconfigured as part of the I-880 replacement project? Also, I don't
recall whether the junction of I-580, CA 238, and the abominable
I-238 qualifies as well.
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Scott M. Kozel
Scott M. Kozel wrote:
>
> (snip)
> Also, how about a list of other mixing bowls? Definition: a four-way
> expressway junction, on a sharp skew, where interchange from one
> junction between the MD 10 and MD 100 expressways in Anne Arundel Co.,
> MD, is a mixing bowl.
When the Richmond-Petersburg Turnpike (I-95) was widened in the
mid-1970s, a VDOT publication called the interchange complex in
Petersburg the "Little Mixing Bowl". That is where I-85 ties into I-95,
and there are long collector-distributor roadways and ramps
interchanging with Washington Street and South Crater Road.
I have not heard that name used by the public, and the interchange
complex, although large, is not a mixing bowl according to the above
definition.
The Mixing Bowl in Arlington, when it was rebuilt and expanded in the
early 1970s, could have been renamed. It could have been named the
Super Bowl (sorry, I couldn't resist!).
I mean, why not? The Washington Redskins have won three and played in
four since then.
John R. Grout
rayg...@pond.com (Raymond F. Greenberg) writes:
>
> On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 00:51:28 -0600, wx_h...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >In article <339F5B...@richmond.infi.net>,
> > koz...@richmond.infi.net wrote:
> >>
> >> How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
> >> nicknames.
>
> Some years ago I heard that the short stretch of US 1/US 9 between the
> Pulaski Skyway and the Holland Tunnel in Jersey City was called
> "Depressed Highway" (right after it leaves 1 & 9) because it goes
> under local Jersey City streets.
This is not quite right.
Mike Ballard
Ray Mullins (m...@lerami.lerctr.org) wrote:
: >I believe one of the largest (most massive) interchanges is currently
: >the newly-expanded interchange between the Century Freeway (I-105) and
: >the Harbor Freeway (I-110) in Los Angeles. It's a five-level monster,
: >including direct ramps for HOV lane to HOV lane! I believe I've read
: >that it's over 125 feet tall at its highest point, and involves about
: >50-60 lane-miles of ramps. At any rate, it sure is up there! I'd say
: >another interesting one is simply the East LA Interchange, where I-5,
: >I-10, and CA-60 join together, along with several surface streets.
: >Very long, very confusing, lots of accidents, narrow lanes, etc...
: >etc... Perhaps that's another "mixing bowl"??
The East LA is my favorite interchange. Old bridges, New bridges, ramps,
ramps, ramps, and at a couple of points, you're on a freeway looking at
another paralleling you. The I-105/I-110 is very deceiving. If you are on
the 105 E heading to the 110 N, the flyover doesn't look all that high
until the 110 drops out beneath you. Then you're REALLY high. Cool
interchange.
: My vote has always been the I-5/CA-14/I-210/I-405/CA-118 + truck lanes
: mess in the northern San Fernando Valley, that is during times that the
: CA-14 SB->I-5 SB, I-5 SB->CA-14 NB, and I-5 SB->I-210 EB lanes aren't
: being rebuilt due to minor earthquakes in the area...(and I include the
: I-405/CA-118 as part of that complex.)
Interesting interchange. You seem to be in an interchange for about 5 or
six miles. It doesn't stop until you get past the 118 SB or the 14 (or 5)
NB. Those truck routes are on my web site. They were a part of the 1954
US 99/US 6 freeway. Anyway, I'd give a vote for the East LA as the most
complex, the I-105/I-110 as the tallest, and the
I-5/CA-14/I-210/I-405/CA-118 as the longest. Any takers?
: BTW, the I-15/CA-14 complex has been named after the L.A.P.D. motor officer
: who didn't remember 1971...
Clarence Wayn Dean.
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bath...@iglou2.iglou.com (Tim Brown) wrote:
>There's a few funny names for roads where I live:
>"Highway to Hell" is US 27 through Campbell County.
[snip]
And, as a counterpoint to that, US 27 in my native Butler County,
Ohio, is known as the "Highway to Heaven".
The name really doesn't stem from the difference in the quality of
life in the counties on either side of Cincinnati, although that would
make perfect sense. It came into usage in the 1980s after a series of
fatal accidents on US 27 south of Oxford, Ohio were attributed to the
inability of the highway to handle the increasing traffic. It's a
narrow, curving road that had a 55 mph speed limit until about 10
years ago. It's also the only way to get to Miami University from
Cincinnati. Game days are terrible.
After a friend of mine died on the road in 1986, an organization put
up large warning signs calling it the "Highway to Heaven" and
imploring drivers to go slow and be careful. They also successfully
lobbied ODOT to lower the speed limit to 45, though few people go that
slowly. The area is still rather rural, but built-up enough that
extending the four-lane, divided highway that ends at S.R. 128
northward is unlikely without a fight.
Dave
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On Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:34:52 GMT, jo...@vnet.net (John Lansford)
wrote:
>"Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
>
>>How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names and
>>nicknames.
>>
>>Come on, guys! There has to be plenty of interesting names and
>>nicknames I don't know about!
Let's see.. Phoenix and the Valley of the Sunstroke:
I-10 (West of central) is the Papago
I-10 (East of central) is the Maricopa
There's the Red Moutain (Loop AZ202), the Price and the Pima is about
10 miles long and has 2 names (Loop AZ101). Oh yes, and the Black
Canyon (I-17).
There is a reason that it is called the Black Canyon Freeway. I
beleive that is started out as a joke by the local media. Perhaps
Richard could explain this one.
Portland, OR has the Sunset Hwy (US 26) which is named for the a
miliary battlion I beleive, not for the fact that it goes west to the
coast. There is also the Banfield (I-84), which was named after the
farmer Mr. Banfield who farmed the land untill state ran over him with
the paving truck and said, quote "oops" :)
My 2.5 cents worth
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Here in Albuquerque, we call ours: THE BIG-I. It's where I-40 and
_25 cross.
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In article <01bc77af$32b90660$a94f93ce@jaho>, "Jody L. Aho"
<ja...@cp.duluth.mn.us> wrote:
>
>
>Mike Ballard <mapm...@smartlink.net> wrote in article
><339F97...@smartlink.net>...
>> The Stack in LA, AKA the Four-Level Interchange is between the Pasadena
>> Freeway (CA 110), the Harbor Freeway (CA 110 S of the junction), and the
>> Hollywood Freeway (US 101).
>
>Another one is here in Duluth called "the can of worms" where I-35, I-535,
>and US-53 all meet. It is also one of the few places where there's a
>stoplight on an Interstate highway (at the junction of the northbound exit
>from I-35 to US-53 and the southbound lanes of US-53 which turn into
>southbound I-535. It is three levels in one part of the interchange.
A few years ago, I almost blew a red light at this one, going from SB US53
to NB I-35. The traffic light serves traffic from SB US53 to BOTH NB I-35
and Wisconsin bound I-535.
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The best one I've heard is the Mixmaster in Central Dallas- I believe
its where I-30, I-35 and Central Expressway (US75) come together (if
you know for sure please post.)
As far as a neat exit, how about the junction of I-95 and I-87 in the
Bronx. 95 has just crossed a bridge over the Harlem River and is WAY
higher than I-87. Most days, the traffic, construction, and potholes
let you get a real good look at the whole structure.
JDunlop
John Lansford said (6/17/97):
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Subject: Re: Greensboro I-85 (was:Interesting Highway Feature Names &
Nicknames)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 09:46:36 GMT
Message-ID: <33a315fc....@news.vnet.net>
J Vincent <NOSPAMj...@mcs.net> wrote:
>
>Don't long-range plans exist for I-85 to completely bypass Greensboro to
>the southeast? I thought that was why nothing was done around Greensboro
>when I-85/40 was upgraded to eight lanes.
>
Plenty was done on that side of Greensboro. I had the project that
widened I-85/I-40 to six lanes down to US 29. One of my colleagues had
the project that widened the same Interstate to 8 lanes a few miles
further out, and her successor has the Greensboro Bypass.
As you said, it will completely avoid this area, which presumably will
relieve traffic problems there. However, we've found that building a
bypass around Winston-Salem didn't really lower the traffic volumes
along old I-40 (now US 421) through downtown W-S. Recent traffic
counts still show US 421 carrying around 55,000 vpd, which was just a
bit lower than what it was carrying before I-40 was built south of
town.
I believe Death Valley will continue to live up to its name even after
the Greensboro Bypass is completed.
John Lansford
----------
One difference on I-40 business (US 421) through Winston is that there are
far fewer trucks. But I can't believe that it's not much lower right
now, especially with all the construction, including closing the ramp from
US 52 S to US 421 E. I don't drive that stretch all that often, but it
certainly seems lower in volume.
On I-85/40 through Greensboro, when we were looking at possible
alternates, we realized that there's almost as much traffic heading north
on US 29 as there was heading east/north on 40/85. The problem, as I'm
sure you know well, is the railroad bridge right in the middle of Death
Valley. I think it carries three or four tracks across I-40/85, and it
can't be expanded. The construction costs of replacement (and it doesn't
need replacement, according to Bridge Maintenance) stopped any thoughts of
widening through that area.
John Lansford
jdu...@aol.com (JDunlop) wrote:
>One difference on I-40 business (US 421) through Winston is that there are
>far fewer trucks. But I can't believe that it's not much lower right
>now, especially with all the construction, including closing the ramp from
>US 52 S to US 421 E. I don't drive that stretch all that often, but it
>certainly seems lower in volume.
One of my projects is a safety project on old I-40 east of Winston
Salem, where it crosses Salem Lake. The work was delayed until the
bypass south of town was finished, in the belief that the traffic
would be a lot lower.
It is not. The volumes before the Interstate was moved south of W/S
were around 75,000 vpd. It's now around 55,000 vpd on Business I-40
and climbing, with a strong percentage of truck traffic as well. The
current construction downtown will lower the volumes down some, but
when it's completed the volumes will come right back up.
>On I-85/40 through Greensboro, when we were looking at possible
>alternates, we realized that there's almost as much traffic heading north
>on US 29 as there was heading east/north on 40/85.
That was my design project, as I've said before. US 29 may carry a lot
of traffic but most of it is coming from W/S, not I-40 westbound. I've
never seen it as heavy as the interstate either; I'll look at the
traffic volumes today and let you know what they were.
> The problem, as I'm
>sure you know well, is the railroad bridge right in the middle of Death
>Valley. I think it carries three or four tracks across I-40/85, and it
>can't be expanded. The construction costs of replacement (and it doesn't
>need replacement, according to Bridge Maintenance) stopped any thoughts of
>widening through that area.
Yes, that's the problem. Neither ramp upstream of the bridge can be
closed, and their elevation difference precludes combining them before
they reach I-40/I-85. The bridge can be widened, but at a very high
cost, one that no one in NCDOT wants to accept.
>James H. Dunlop, P.E.
Do you now or did you work for NCDOT?
John Lansford, PE
Tim Brown
lo...@my.sig.for.email (Dave Schul) writes:
>And, as a counterpoint to that, US 27 in my native Butler County,
>Ohio, is known as the "Highway to Heaven".
>The name really doesn't stem from the difference in the quality of
>life in the counties on either side of Cincinnati, although that would
>make perfect sense. It came into usage in the 1980s after a series of
>fatal accidents on US 27 south of Oxford, Ohio were attributed to the
>inability of the highway to handle the increasing traffic. It's a
>narrow, curving road that had a 55 mph speed limit until about 10
>years ago. It's also the only way to get to Miami University from
>Cincinnati. Game days are terrible.
>After a friend of mine died on the road in 1986, an organization put
>up large warning signs calling it the "Highway to Heaven" and
>imploring drivers to go slow and be careful.
I remember seeing those signs along the road in Butler County once a few
years ago. There was pretty much traffic for being such a narrow road.
>They also successfully
>lobbied ODOT to lower the speed limit to 45, though few people go that
>slowly. The area is still rather rural, but built-up enough that
>extending the four-lane, divided highway that ends at S.R. 128
>northward is unlikely without a fight.
I think part of US 27 in the city of Oxford is (or was) actually a brick
road. I remember going through Oxford once a few years ago and being
amazed to find a U.S. highway paved with brick.
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In article <33a738f2...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>,
hardwa...@worldnet.att.net (Michael Willency) wrote:
I always thought that the 'Mixmaster' was the I-30/I-35W interchange (now
being redesigned) in DT Fort Worth, TX.
>The best one I've heard is the Mixmaster in Central Dallas- I believe
>its where I-30, I-35 and Central Expressway (US75) come together (if
>you know for sure please post.)
>
>As far as a neat exit, how about the junction of I-95 and I-87 in the
>Bronx. 95 has just crossed a bridge over the Harlem River and is WAY
>higher than I-87. Most days, the traffic, construction, and potholes
>let you get a real good look at the whole structure.
One I always find interesting (though it has no informal name) is the
I-90/I-190/I-294 interchange in Rosemont, IL. It connects the Kennedy
Expressway, the O'Hare access spur, the Northwest Tollway and the Tri-State
Tollway and covers most of the total land area of the village of Rosemont,
IL. Further complicating this is that the Kennedy/O'Hare connection (I-190)
has a full interchange with a surface street (Des Plaines River Rd.) within
the rest of this overall interchange.
Steve Anderson
MarkA wrote:
>
> There was a recent thread about the shortest 3 digit interstate. My
> question is "What is the shortest 2 digit interstate?" I would guess
> I97 in MD. Any takers?
>
> MarkA
At 18 miles, I-97 in Maryland is the shortest "2di" in the US.
MarkA
William F. Yurasko
Bob Goudreau wrote:
>
> MarkA (gu...@aol.com) wrote:
>
> : There was a recent thread about the shortest 3 digit interstate. My
> : question is "What is the shortest 2 digit interstate?" I would guess
> : I97 in MD. Any takers?
>
> at http://www.ihoz.com/IH2.html for details. It looks like I-97
> (18 miles long) is indeed currently the shortest of the 1- and 2-digit
> interstates on the mainland. Note however, that I-H2 (9 miles) and
> I-H3 (3 miles) in Hawaii are shorter still. Both will eventually be
> longer, but isn't the same true of I-97 as well?
>
Doesn't look like a longer I-97 is in the works. There is a lot of
opposition to building freeways in that part of MD. I doubt "I-97" has
ever been planned south of US 50. I am surprised that it ends at I-695
not I-895, and that it doesn't join with I-895 up the Harbor Tunnel
Thruway to I-95 at the city line.
I-97 would be much better suited as an I-x95. I-595 was supposed to be
routed along US 50, but it wasn't. I-995 would have made sense and it
would have given Maryland the highest three digit number. Of course I-97
was the highest two digit number before the travesty in Altoona. I
wouldn't expect I-97 to be renumbered, though.
WILLIAM
Scott M. Kozel
Bob Goudreau wrote:
>
> (snip)
> Check out the "House of Zzyx's excellent interstate highway web page
> at http://www.ihoz.com/IH2.html for details. It looks like I-97
> (18 miles long) is indeed currently the shortest of the 1- and 2-digit
> interstates on the mainland. Note however, that I-H2 (9 miles) and
> I-H3 (3 miles) in Hawaii are shorter still. Both will eventually be
> longer, but isn't the same true of I-97 as well?
I have followed the I-97 project since the planning started in the late
1970s. I don't know of any plan that has ever been in place to extend
it south of US 50. I have a couple extensive articles about I-97 in the
Deja News Archives. Search for "I-97".
_______________________________________________________________________
Scott M. Kozel
The Virginia Highwayman
koz...@richmond.infi.net
Bob Goudreau
MarkA (gu...@aol.com) wrote:
: There was a recent thread about the shortest 3 digit interstate. My
: question is "What is the shortest 2 digit interstate?" I would guess
: I97 in MD. Any takers?
Check out the "House of Zzyx's excellent interstate highway web page
at http://www.ihoz.com/IH2.html for details. It looks like I-97
(18 miles long) is indeed currently the shortest of the 1- and 2-digit
interstates on the mainland. Note however, that I-H2 (9 miles) and
I-H3 (3 miles) in Hawaii are shorter still. Both will eventually be
longer, but isn't the same true of I-97 as well?
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David Steinberg
On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, MarkA wrote:
> There was a recent thread about the shortest 3 digit interstate. My
> question is "What is the shortest 2 digit interstate?" I would guess
> I97 in MD. Any takers?
You win :)
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David Steinberg
On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, William F. Yurasko wrote:
> Doesn't look like a longer I-97 is in the works. There is a lot of
> opposition to building freeways in that part of MD. I doubt "I-97" has
> ever been planned south of US 50. I am surprised that it ends at I-695
> not I-895, and that it doesn't join with I-895 up the Harbor Tunnel
> Thruway to I-95 at the city line.
At I-97's north end though, there at least used to be a sign calling the
Inner Loop of the Beltway (westbound there) I-695/I-97. I never
understood that one..
Mike Wiley
Thai Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:34:52 GMT, jo...@vnet.net (John Lansford)
> wrote:
>
> >"Scott M. Kozel" <koz...@richmond.infi.net> wrote:
> >
> >>How about let's compile a list of interesting highway feature names
> and
> >>nicknames.
> >>
> >>Come on, guys! There has to be plenty of interesting names and
> >>nicknames I don't know about!
>
> Portland, OR has the Sunset Hwy (US 26) which is named for the a
> miliary battlion I beleive, not for the fact that it goes west to the
> coast. There is also the Banfield (I-84), which was named after the
> farmer Mr. Banfield who farmed the land untill state ran over him with
>
> the paving truck and said, quote "oops" :)
>
Also in Portland, OR, I-5 south of Downtown is know as the Baldock
Freeway (from its old US 99 days), and North of Downtown is known as the
Minnesota Freeway because it was built along N Minnesota Ave. I-405 is
the Stadium Freeway and I-205 is the East Portland Freeway. WA-14 on
the north bank of the Columbia is the Lewis and Clark Hwy. OR-8 and
OR-47 is officially known as the Tualatin Valley Highway, but locals
call it the "TV" Highway.
Although these are the popular names of these freeways, these are not
the official names according to the Oregon DOT. The official ODOT names
for the Portland Area Highways are:
I-5 Pacific Highway #1
I-84 Columbia River Highway #2
I-205 East Portland Highway #64
I-405 Stadium Highway #61
US-26 West Sunset Highway #47
US-26 East Mount Hood Loop Highway #26
US-30 West West Columbia River Highway #2W
US-30 Bypass North Portland Highway #123
US-30 Business Sandy Boulevard Highway #59
OR-8 Tualatin Valley Highway #29
OR-10 Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway #40 & Farmington
Highway #142
OR-43 Oswego Highway #3
OR-47 Tualatin Valley Highway #29 & Nehalem
Highway #102
OR-99E Pacific Highway East #1E
OR-99W Pacific Highway West #1W
OR-210 Scholls Highway #143
OR-212 Clackamas-Boring Highway #174
OR-213 Cascade Highway (North Section) #68 & Cascade
Highway (South Section) #160
OR-217 Beaverton-Tigard Highway #144
OR-219 Hillsboro-Silverton Highway #140
OR-224 Clackamas Highway #171
If you want to see the complete cross-reference of Route numbers to ODOT
Highway Names, go to
http://www.odot.state.or.us/tdb/traffic_monitoring/cros-ref.htm
I hope to in the near future have a web page dedicated to understanding
the ODOT method of identifying highways and what the difference is
between a "Route" and "Highway" number in Oregon.
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Ray Mullins
In article <33B028...@gdt.com>, D Banks <david...@gdt.com> wrote:
>One freeway in Phoenix is the "Superstition Freeway". Not sure which
>one it is, but I heard it referred to in a radio traffic report on my
>June '97 road trip (8,570 km in 15 days). I hate it when they use names
>like that in traffic reports when I'm in a strange city, I have to get
>out a map and try and figure out if the "Superstition Freeway" is I-10,
>I-17, or some other route.
I agree. And in this case it's US 60.
Here in beautiful Sacramento, they use the hwy designations. In the case of
the infamous Bizz I-80, it is generally called "Business 80/Capital City
Fwy." (Yes, that mouthful.)
D Banks
One freeway in Phoenix is the "Superstition Freeway". Not sure which
one it is, but I heard it referred to in a radio traffic report on my
June '97 road trip (8,570 km in 15 days). I hate it when they use names
like that in traffic reports when I'm in a strange city, I have to get
out a map and try and figure out if the "Superstition Freeway" is I-10,
I-17, or some other route.
Dave Banks
Vancouver, B.C.
Thai Williams
On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 22:26:03 -0700, Mike Wiley <mwi...@hooked.net>
wrote:
>OR-47 is officially known as the Tualatin Valley Highway, but locals
>call it the "TV" Highway.
Actually part of TV Highyway is OR 10. It starts as Canyon Rd, runs
through Beaverton and then at Murray Blvd, it changes to TV Highway..
it doesn't become OR 47 till the Gaston turn off in Forest Grove or
abouts there.
Thai Williams
On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:05:06 -0700, D Banks <david...@gdt.com>
wrote:
Acutally the Superstition is US 60 :) Runs east from Phoenix to Apache
Junction and Global. Crossing through the Superstition Mountains..
hence the name.
grandma
p...@infinet.com (Perfect Vision Graphics) wrote:
>I'm sure lots of places have a 'Malfunction Junction' but that's is what
>we in Dayton call the I-75/OH-4 split.
>
We used to call MD Rt 5 in Clinton Malfunction Junction. They
referred to it that way on traffic reports. Rt 5 near the Chas
Co border also has a Dead Man's Curve.
grandma Rosalie
Use your own judgement...then do as I say.
William S. Riddle, IV
H.B. Elkins wrote:
[snip]
> Spaghetti Junction:
> The intersection of I-64, I-65 and I-71 in downtown Louisville.
>
> Massacre Mountain:
> The stretch of US 25E which was supplanted by the Cumberland Gap
> Tunnel.
>
> Dixie Die-way:
> Dixie Highway (US 31W and US 60) south and west of Louisville.
>
[snip sig]
Does the fairly new I-65/I-264/KY 61/Airport/Fair-Expo Center/Grade Lane
interchange in Louisville have a nickname???
-William S. Riddle, IV
H.B. Elkins
"William S. Riddle, IV" <ridd...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Does the fairly new I-65/I-264/KY 61/Airport/Fair-Expo Center/Grade Lane
>interchange in Louisville have a nickname???
I've never heard a nickname for it. However, I imagine that a listen
to WHAS-AM 840 during drive time would reveal any nickname, if WHAS is
still doing helicopter traffic reports.
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