What's a pike and who has them?
Trent
I notice that in most places, they are called Highway but a few states
use a title I really like and think is somewhat unusual: Pike
What exactly is a pike? Is it the same as a highway? It seems that
pikes apply to more roads than highways and that highway is generally
defined as an express route in these areas (for instance, Alcoa
Highway in Knoxville). I have noticed pikes in these states: TN, KY
and VA. I haven't noticed them anywhere else. Any other strange
nomers such as using "Trunkline" as a title?
Something really funny is a road I saw back in my state. The county
obviously doesn't know what a pike is, so they called the road "Sugar
Pike Road" :O
Amos
others.
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Trevor Hill
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In MA: Part of US 202 is the "Litchfield Tpke", and there are others.
In NY, there are quite a few "turnpikes", but the majority seem to be in
the southeast corner of the state, in that nether region between NYC and
"upstate".
In eastern PA, they're a dime a dozen... PA 73 is the Skippack Pike outside
of Philly, PA 3 is the West Chester Pike, PA 230 is the East Harrisburg
Pike, and so on.
They are also common in MD.
"Pike" originally meant "a road". In US parlance nowadays, it refers to
two things.
1) A shorthand for "turnpike", the modern toll highway. (e.g. the Mass.
Pike).
2) In older terms (we're talking 13 Colonies times, or perhaps early
1800s), it was a major road. You'll notice that the term shows up only in
the original 13 states (for the most part), and usually refers to roads
that are not interstates or even US highways, but may have been important
city-to-city roads two hundred years ago.
--Trevor
Pete Rose Was Cool
>What exactly is a pike? Is it the same as a highway?
You see this word a lot in Northern Kentucky. In Campbell County alone,
there's Alexandria Pike, Dayton Pike, Covert Run Pike (where I threw a
pile of trash on the road to protest the "election"), Licking Pike, and
more! Ohio has a few pikes too.
I think the reason they are called pikes is that, back in the horse and
buggy days, they used to be privately owned toll roads.
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BCBA
at tdh...@NOuwaterlooSPAM.ca wrote on 4/16/03 1:25 PM:
Lots of 'em in PA. A few additions from SW PA:
Northern Pike (as compared to the Southern Turnpike which became known as
Greensburg Pike)
Greensburg Pike
Clay Pike (named for the road surface)
Butler Pike
Kittanning Pike
Steubenville Pike
Washington Pike
Clarks Pike Rd (a very short one)
etc
Of the half dozen Pike streets locally only two are renamed pieces of old
turnpikes...another is a residential street named for its proximity to the
PA Tpk...all the others are presumably named for the fish.
Short for turnpike as noted by others, but more specifically, the "pike" was
the wooden pole extended across the road like a gate -- which was turned out
of the way once the traveler paid the toll. Same origin for the word
turnstile.
We also have several referred to as "... Grade Road"
Beaver Grade Road
Hookstown Grade Road
and so on
Typically named for the town to which they led.
In this case, the road was an improved, well-graded road -- as compared to
older dirt tracks and goat paths that passed as roads before the rise of the
automobile.
And of course the ever popular:
Butler Plank Rd
Perrysville Plank Rd
Peoples Plank Rd
etc
--Bruce at pghbridges.com
Sherman L. Cahal
Lexington, KY has plenty of them:
Old Frankfort Pike,
Leestown Pike,
Iron Works Pike,
Paris Pike,
Newtown Pike,
Midway Pike,
Benson Pike,
(minor ones:)
Allen Pike,
Silas Pike,
Switzer Pike,
Hicks Pike,
Gray Run Pike,
Coppage Pike.
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Garrett Wollman
Trent <tleg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I notice that in most places, they are called Highway but a few states
>use a title I really like and think is somewhat unusual: Pike
>
>What exactly is a pike?
`Pike' is short for `turnpike'. Those roads were originally toll
roads. Here in Massachusetts, and to a lesser extent in the other
New England states, those roads either kept the full title Such-and-so
Turnpike, or else have been entirely renamed. The Massachusetts
Turnpike is commonly known as the ``Mass. Pike'' (and not, as
erroneously written on newer signs and stationery, ``MASSPIKE''), but
the short form is otherwise not commonly used here, as compared to New
Jersey and Pennsylvania.
Some of the better-known non-freeway examples:
Worcester Turnpike (mostly renamed)
Concord Turnpike
Middlesex Turnpike
Newburyport Turnpike (US 1)
Salem Turnpike (SR 107)
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Matt
I know Ridge Pike is ex-US-422 ..
"Trevor Hill" <tdh...@NOuwaterlooSPAM.ca> wrote in message
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Steve
>
> In MA: Part of US 202 is the "Litchfield Tpke", and there are others.
>
> In NY, there are quite a few "turnpikes", but the majority seem to be in
> the southeast corner of the state, in that nether region between NYC and
> "upstate".
>
Orange Tkpe (yes, Tkpe, not Tpke) - NY 17 on its way down from the
freeway. Thanks Harriman!
> In eastern PA, they're a dime a dozen... PA 73 is the Skippack Pike outside
> of Philly, PA 3 is the West Chester Pike, PA 230 is the East Harrisburg
> Pike, and so on.
Same in NJ - Morris Tpk, Sussex Tpk, Columbia Tpk... all old, straight
roads as per definition 2. It seems that most "Pike"s are definition 2
below.
John Lansford
A "turnpike" was a road that had private tolls collected on it. The
owner extended a long pole (a "pike") across the road, and raised (or
turned) it after collecting the toll, allowing users to pass on by.
The name has been shortened over time, and the meaning is no longer
valid, just like parkway.
John Lansford, PE
The unofficial I-26 Construction Webpage:
http://users.vnet.net/lansford/a10/
Pete Jenior
"Pete Rose Was Cool" <ban...@todayslastword.org> wrote in message
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> On 16 Apr 2003 10:00:46 -0700, tleg...@hotmail.com (Trent) said:
>
> >What exactly is a pike? Is it the same as a highway?
>
> You see this word a lot in Northern Kentucky. In Campbell County alone,
> there's Alexandria Pike, Dayton Pike, Covert Run Pike (where I threw a
> pile of trash on the road to protest the "election"), Licking Pike, and
> more! Ohio has a few pikes too.
..such as Clough Pike and Ohio Pike (OH 125 outside of I-275), both very
close to my house
>
> I think the reason they are called pikes is that, back in the horse and
> buggy days, they used to be privately owned toll roads.
I know this was the case with the two I mention.
-Pete
Rich Piehl
A similar regional coloquialism: in parts of central Illinois many of
the roads are called [destination town] Blacktop.
The Chatham Blacktop
The Petersburg Blacktop
etc.
But, hey, the freeways in Los Angeles are loosely named in similar fashion.
Take care,
Rich
God bless the USA
Boxall's Accommodation
> Ever notice the occassionally odd regional titles for highways?
>
> I notice that in most places, they are called Highway but a few states
> use a title I really like and think is somewhat unusual: Pike
>
> What exactly is a pike?
They make excellent gefilte fish.
Rich Piehl
Exile on Market Street
> A "turnpike" was a road that had private tolls collected on it. The
> owner extended a long pole (a "pike") across the road, and raised (or
> turned) it after collecting the toll, allowing users to pass on by.
> The name has been shortened over time, and the meaning is no longer
> valid, just like parkway.
Are you saying that a parkway is no longer a linear park with a road as
its centerpiece?
Most of the parkways I'm familiar with still fit that description.
What's changed is how the motorists who drive some of these use them.
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John Lansford
>John Lansford wrote:
>
>> A "turnpike" was a road that had private tolls collected on it. The
>> owner extended a long pole (a "pike") across the road, and raised (or
>> turned) it after collecting the toll, allowing users to pass on by.
>> The name has been shortened over time, and the meaning is no longer
>> valid, just like parkway.
>
>Are you saying that a parkway is no longer a linear park with a road as
>its centerpiece?
>
>Most of the parkways I'm familiar with still fit that description.
>What's changed is how the motorists who drive some of these use them.
Go drive on Briley Parkway in Nashville and look for the "linear
park". Let me know when you find it.
Larry Stone
Exile on Market Street <smi...@pobox.upenn.edu> wrote:
> Are you saying that a parkway is no longer a linear park with a road as
> its centerpiece?
>
> Most of the parkways I'm familiar with still fit that description.
> What's changed is how the motorists who drive some of these use them.
For the most part, only in the Northeast. The only named "Parkways"
around where I live (Schaumburg, IL) provide access into office parks.
It's just another road name suffix like Avenue or Street.
My parents, living in the Adirondacks, live on Lake Parkway. It's a
one-lane, dead-end, rural residential road that 20 years ago wasn't even
paved.
--
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http://www.stonejongleux.com/
Chris Bessert
Jeff Kitsko
news:3E9E2FF...@pobox.upenn.edu...
> John Lansford wrote:
>
> > A "turnpike" was a road that had private tolls collected on it. The
> > owner extended a long pole (a "pike") across the road, and raised (or
> > turned) it after collecting the toll, allowing users to pass on by.
> > The name has been shortened over time, and the meaning is no longer
> > valid, just like parkway.
>
> Are you saying that a parkway is no longer a linear park with a road as
> its centerpiece?
>
> Most of the parkways I'm familiar with still fit that description.
> What's changed is how the motorists who drive some of these use them.
Parkway East, West, and North, while they traverse wooded areas and the
Parkway East going through two parks, do not follow linear parks. They are
just plain expressways, but the names used since Moses drew up plans for the
"Pitt Parkway" which is now the Penn-Lincoln Parkway (East and West).
Parkway North just continued the naming that people are familiar with.
--
Jeff Kitsko
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Ohio Highways: http://www.ohhighways.com/
N. W. Perry
tleg...@hotmail.com (Trent) wrote:
> Ever notice the occassionally odd regional titles for highways?
Southern Ontario has Lines and Concessions.
Trevor Hill
504FCF.153...@syrcnyrdrs-03-ge0.nyroc.rr.com:
Lines and concessions aren't really "highways" in any sense of the word
(except the legal one that says every road is a highway).
A concession is a road maintained by the township, and could be anything from
two-lane paved to one lane gravel. The names are usually on the order of
"1st Concession, 3rd Concession, 5th....".
A line is simply a road that happens to partition townships, towns, or
counties. My parents live close to "Keppel-Sarawak Line", which divides said
townships.
When I was growing up, I lived on Concession 2...but the real name of the
road was "Grey County Road #1".
--Trevor
Kevin Flynn
Many of Denver's original parkways developed under Mayor Speer early
in the last century remain as beautiful parklands of the city and are
under very graceful canopies of mature trees. Some are quite large and
well-used by joggers and other city dwellers. I am thinking here of
Monaco Parkway, East 17th Avenue Parkway where some of the most
beautiful homes are located, Sixth Avenue Parkway and Seventh Avenue
Parkway.
However, some other streets here have been called "parkways" when they
do not have dedicated parklands between the driveways, so I agree that
the use of the term has been watered down.
Barry L. Camp
> <snip>
> In MA: Part of US 202 is the "Litchfield Tpke", and there are others.
>
> In NY, there are quite a few "turnpikes", but the majority seem to be in
> the southeast corner of the state, in that nether region between NYC and
> "upstate".
>
> In eastern PA, they're a dime a dozen... PA 73 is the Skippack Pike
outside
> of Philly, PA 3 is the West Chester Pike, PA 230 is the East Harrisburg
> Pike, and so on.
>
> They are also common in MD.
>
> "Pike" originally meant "a road". In US parlance nowadays, it refers to
> two things.
>
> 1) A shorthand for "turnpike", the modern toll highway. (e.g. the Mass.
> Pike).
>
> 2) In older terms (we're talking 13 Colonies times, or perhaps early
> 1800s), it was a major road. You'll notice that the term shows up only in
> the original 13 states (for the most part), and usually refers to roads
> that are not interstates or even US highways, but may have been important
> city-to-city roads two hundred years ago.
>
> --Trevor
Michigan also had "pikes" in it's early days, including the La Plaisance Bay
Pike, which ran from Monroe northwest to meet up with Chicago Road near
Cambridge Junction. These days, Chicago Road is better known to Michiganians
as US-12, and the La Plaisance Bay Pike... that's M-50.
Here is some more information: http://www.michmarkers.com/Pages/S0269.htm
Barry L. Camp
Ben Kiene
Kevin Flynn wrote:
>
> Many of Denver's original parkways developed under Mayor Speer early
> in the last century remain as beautiful parklands of the city and are
> under very graceful canopies of mature trees. Some are quite large and
> well-used by joggers and other city dwellers. I am thinking here of
> Monaco Parkway, East 17th Avenue Parkway where some of the most
> beautiful homes are located, Sixth Avenue Parkway and Seventh Avenue
> Parkway.
>
> However, some other streets here have been called "parkways" when they
> do not have dedicated parklands between the driveways, so I agree that
> the use of the term has been watered down.
It's been watered down even more by the use of the word as a euphamism for a freeway or other limited access
facility. Examples are Broomfield's Northwest Parkway (limited access 70 mph toll road), Boulder's Foothills
Parkway (45-55 mph bypass of central Boulder with interchanges and intersections about a mile apart),
Westminster and Broomfield's Wadsworth Parkway (45-55 mph bypass of old Wadsworth Blvd), and Kipling Parkway
both in Arvada and Lakewood. All of these do have grass medians, but would never qualify as linear parks.
Ben Kiene
Exile on Market Street
FWIW, where I grew up, the streets called "parkway" were part of the
city's boulevard network, all of which was under the jurisdiction of the
city Board of Parks and Recreation. And all of them were linear parks,
most with landscaped medians (and lined with residences like the ones in
Denver).
Johnson Drive on the Kansas side was not renamed "Shawnee Mieeion
Parkway" until after I left.
Jeff Kitsko wrote:
> Parkway East, West, and North, while they traverse wooded areas and the
> Parkway East going through two parks, do not follow linear parks. They are
> just plain expressways, but the names used since Moses drew up plans for the
> "Pitt Parkway" which is now the Penn-Lincoln Parkway (East and West).
Ah--Moses! Well, that explains the source of the name. The name
eventually adopted also suggests to me that the planning predated the
Interstates, and maybe even the Turnpike, as it shows that the road was
supposed to carry both the William Penn (US 22) and Lincoln (US 30)
Highways through the city.
> Parkway North just continued the naming that people are familiar with.
So why isn't the road that connects with the Fort Pitt Tunnel at its
south portal the "Parkway South"?
Stanley Cline
<jlns...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Go drive on Briley Parkway in Nashville and look for the "linear
>park". Let me know when you find it.
...or Cobb Parkway, or Peachtree Parkway (the one in Gwinnett County,
not the one in Fayette County), etc. here in Atlanta, or Battlefield
Parkway in Fort Oglethorpe, GA -- they're all long commercial strips!
:(
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gkowal
Trent wrote:
>Ever notice the occassionally odd regional titles for highways?
>
>I notice that in most places, they are called Highway but a few states
>use a title I really like and think is somewhat unusual: Pike
>
>What exactly is a pike? Is it the same as a highway? It seems that
>pikes apply to more roads than highways and that highway is generally
>defined as an express route in these areas (for instance, Alcoa
>Highway in Knoxville). I have noticed pikes in these states: TN, KY
>and VA. I haven't noticed them anywhere else. Any other strange
>nomers such as using "Trunkline" as a title?
>
>Something really funny is a road I saw back in my state. The county
>obviously doesn't know what a pike is, so they called the road "Sugar
>Pike Road" :O
>
>
New Jersey, where most things began, has lots of Pikes.
A few I can remember are Belleville Pike, Newark Pike, Morris Turnpike,
Morris & Essex Pike, Hamburg Turnpike, Brunswick Pike, Straight Pike,
Black Horse Pike, White Horse Pike, and a "back" road that "shunned"
paying the tolls on the Morris Pike is called Shunpike.
Out of these, only the present day multilane New Jersey Turnpike
collects tolls, but that's a whole nuther trip.
We also have a few Plank Roads, such as Paterson Plank Road and
Hackensack Plank Road.
George K
Matt Popek
You can add DeKalb Pike, or current US 202, to the list, which runs
through Bridgeport and King of Prussia, right before it becomes limited
access at the construction site...
Steven M. O'Neill
>You can add DeKalb Pike, or current US 202, to the list, which runs
>through Bridgeport and King of Prussia, right before it becomes limited
>access at the construction site...
Also, Delaware has Lancaster Pike and Newport Gap Pike. (Gap
and Lancaster are place names in Pennsylvania, but I don't know
what the roads are called over the border.)
--
Steven O'Neill ste...@panix.com
www.bridgetolls.org
Kevin Flynn
True true. Also, up in the foothills, Evergreen Parkway.
Adam
>Ever notice the occassionally odd regional titles for highways?
>
>I notice that in most places, they are called Highway but a few states
>use a title I really like and think is somewhat unusual: Pike
>
>What exactly is a pike? Is it the same as a highway? It seems that
>pikes apply to more roads than highways and that highway is generally
>defined as an express route in these areas (for instance, Alcoa
>Highway in Knoxville). I have noticed pikes in these states: TN, KY
>and VA. I haven't noticed them anywhere else. Any other strange
>nomers such as using "Trunkline" as a title?
>
>Something really funny is a road I saw back in my state. The county
>obviously doesn't know what a pike is, so they called the road "Sugar
>Pike Road" :O
We have a few on Long Island:
Jericho Turnpike (NY 25)
Hempstead Turnpike (NY 24)
North Hempstead Turnpike (part of NY 25A)
Northville Turnpike (Suffolk CR 43)
Union Turnpike (a small part in Nassau is secretly designated NY 25C -
mostly a Queens road)
Bridgehampton-Sag Harbor Turnpike (Suffolk CR 79)
There may be a few others, but these are the ones I can think of.
Allen Seth Dunn
> tleg...@hotmail.com (Trent) wrote in news:4a2530f7.0304160900.60f04726
> @posting.google.com:
>
>> Ever notice the occassionally odd regional titles for highways?
>>
>> I notice that in most places, they are called Highway but a few states
>> use a title I really like and think is somewhat unusual: Pike
>>
>> What exactly is a pike? Is it the same as a highway? It seems that
>> pikes apply to more roads than highways and that highway is generally
>> defined as an express route in these areas (for instance, Alcoa
>> Highway in Knoxville). I have noticed pikes in these states: TN, KY
>> and VA. I haven't noticed them anywhere else. Any other strange
>> nomers such as using "Trunkline" as a title?
>>
>> Something really funny is a road I saw back in my state. The county
>> obviously doesn't know what a pike is, so they called the road "Sugar
>> Pike Road" :O
>>
>
> In MA: Part of US 202 is the "Litchfield Tpke", and there are others.
>
> In NY, there are quite a few "turnpikes", but the majority seem to be in
> the southeast corner of the state, in that nether region between NYC and
> "upstate".
>
> In eastern PA, they're a dime a dozen... PA 73 is the Skippack Pike outside
> of Philly, PA 3 is the West Chester Pike, PA 230 is the East Harrisburg
> Pike, and so on.
>
> They are also common in MD.
>
> "Pike" originally meant "a road". In US parlance nowadays, it refers to
> two things.
>
> 1) A shorthand for "turnpike", the modern toll highway. (e.g. the Mass.
> Pike).
>
> 2) In older terms (we're talking 13 Colonies times, or perhaps early
> 1800s), it was a major road. You'll notice that the term shows up only in
> the original 13 states (for the most part), and usually refers to roads
> that are not interstates or even US highways, but may have been important
> city-to-city roads two hundred years ago.
>
> --Trevor
>
MD and VA have its share of pikes:
Virginia:
1) Leesburg Pike - VA 7
2) Little River Turnpike - VA 236
3) Richmond-Petersburg Turnpike - I-85 and I-95 during the days it was tolled
Maryland:
1) Rockville Pike - MD 355
2) Columbia Pike - US 29
3) Old Baltimore Pike - an old alignment of US 1 between Beltsville and Laurel
4) [Baltimore] National Pike - US 40 when seperate from I-70
5) Old National Pike - MD 144 east of Frederick
Exile on Market Street
> Johnson Drive on the Kansas side was not renamed "Shawnee Mieeion
> Parkway" until after I left.
Ouch! That should have been "Shawnee *Mission* Parkway."
Exile on Market Street
> Matt Popek <rct...@icdc.com> wrote:
>
>>You can add DeKalb Pike, or current US 202, to the list, which runs
>>through Bridgeport and King of Prussia, right before it becomes limited
>>access at the construction site...
>
>
> Also, Delaware has Lancaster Pike and Newport Gap Pike. (Gap
> and Lancaster are place names in Pennsylvania, but I don't know
> what the roads are called over the border.)
Often, but not always, old roads connecting two cities bear the name of
the city at the other end in each. This is the case with US 30 between
Philadelphia and Lancaster: the road is called "Lancaster Avenue" or
"Lancaster Pike" in Philly and on the Main Line and "Philadelphia Pike"
in Lancaster.
OTOH, there is no "Wilmington Pike" in Philadelphia to match
"Philadelphia Pike" in Wilmington.
Raymond C Martin Jr
>
> I notice that in most places, they are called Highway but a few states
> use a title I really like and think is somewhat unusual: Pike
>
> What exactly is a pike? Is it the same as a highway? It seems that
> pikes apply to more roads than highways and that highway is generally
> defined as an express route in these areas (for instance, Alcoa
> Highway in Knoxville). I have noticed pikes in these states: TN, KY
> and VA. I haven't noticed them anywhere else. Any other strange
> nomers such as using "Trunkline" as a title?
>
> Something really funny is a road I saw back in my state. The county
> obviously doesn't know what a pike is, so they called the road "Sugar
> Pike Road" :O
A "pike" is a shortened term for "turnpike", which of course is a road
which was formerly tolled. In New Jersey, probably the most important
"pike" is the "Brunswick Pike", who's full name is the "Trenton-New
Brunswick Turnpike", both of which are alternately noted on Hagstrom.
Of course few actually recognize the highway by the name if you aren't
an immediate local. The road is much more commonly known as US 1, as
the infamous "Route 1 Corridor".
====
Raymond C Martin Jr
http://www.njfreeways.com/
Bruce B. Reynolds
<gkowal...@earthlink.net> writes:
>New Jersey, where most things began, has lots of Pikes.
>A few I can remember are Belleville Pike, Newark Pike, Morris Turnpike,
>Morris & Essex Pike, Hamburg Turnpike, Brunswick Pike, Straight Pike,
>Black Horse Pike, White Horse Pike, and a "back" road that "shunned"
>paying the tolls on the Morris Pike is called Shunpike.
In particular, the current US 1 through central New Jersey was laid
out in 1803 by the Trenton-New Brunswick Straight Turnpike Company,
and was arrow-straight from the foot of Livingston Street in New Brunswick
to the Trenton city line (what is now the US 206 interchange with Business
US 1).
--
Bruce B. Reynolds, Trailing Edge Technologies, Glenside PA
BCBA
smi...@pobox.upenn.edu wrote on 4/17/03 11:30 PM:
> Glad I opened this can of worms.
>
> FWIW, where I grew up, the streets called "parkway" were part of the
> city's boulevard network, all of which was under the jurisdiction of the
> city Board of Parks and Recreation. And all of them were linear parks,
> most with landscaped medians (and lined with residences like the ones in
> Denver).
>
> Johnson Drive on the Kansas side was not renamed "Shawnee Mieeion
> Parkway" until after I left.
>
> Jeff Kitsko wrote:
>
>> Parkway East, West, and North, while they traverse wooded areas and the
>> Parkway East going through two parks, do not follow linear parks. They are
>> just plain expressways, but the names used since Moses drew up plans for the
>> "Pitt Parkway" which is now the Penn-Lincoln Parkway (East and West).
>
> Ah--Moses! Well, that explains the source of the name. The name
> eventually adopted also suggests to me that the planning predated the
> Interstates, and maybe even the Turnpike, as it shows that the road was
> supposed to carry both the William Penn (US 22) and Lincoln (US 30)
> Highways through the city.
>
>> Parkway North just continued the naming that people are familiar with.
>
> So why isn't the road that connects with the Fort Pitt Tunnel at its
> south portal the "Parkway South"?
>
'Cause it connects to the West. And we have to reserve the name Parkway
South. As Jeff has speculated, we'll probably call the M-F Expwy
(Mon-Fayette) the "Parkway South" if it ever reaches Pittsburgh.
--Bruce
Steve
NJ 27 north of NB is also arrow-straight, I wonder if the two were once
both the Lincoln Highway (I know 27 still is).
Raymond C Martin Jr
Don't think so, Lincoln kept on w/ 27 down thru Princeton and then
current 206 to Trenton...
Stefan Ewing
In the area around Vancouver, Canada, there are a number of roads
(okay, 2) called "Trunk Road": Dewdney Trunk Road and Ladner Trunk
Road. These were early highways built in the 19th century to serve
agricultural areas.
In the area around nearby Victoria--where most of the main arteries
run north-south--a number of east-west arteries have the name "Cross
Road." So there's Cedar Hill Cross Road, Mount Douglas Cross Road,
Saanich Cross Road, Mount Newton Cross Road, Keating Cross Road, and
Stelly's Cross Road. Just to confuse matters, there's Cedar Hill Road
(which crosses Cedar Hill Cross Road) and Saanich Road (which is miles
away from Saanich Cross Road).
David J. Greenberger
> For the most part, only in the Northeast. The only named "Parkways"
> around where I live (Schaumburg, IL) provide access into office parks.
> It's just another road name suffix like Avenue or Street.
In Champaign, IL, Boneyard Parkway is the name of the foot/bikepath
constructed over the Boneyard Creek. For most of its length, there's a
parking lot on either side. But trucks are, indeed, banned!
--
David J. Greenberger
New York, NY
Grover
are pikes.
Old Troy Pike (OH-202). From Dayton to Troy, OH via Huber Heights.
Brandt Pike (OH-201). Also in Huber Heights, it appears to lead to Brandt, one
of those VERY small, now
practically vanished towns on US-40.
Wilmington Pike. From Dayton to Wilmington, OH
Wolf Creek Pike. From West Dayton to Brookville via Trotwood, running along a
river.
Free Pike. An oxymoron? From Dayton (Siebenthaler Ave.) to Trotwood (Main
St.)
Springfield Pike (formerly OH-4?) Passes the USAF Museum, but much of it was
obliterated with the construction
of OH-444.
Germantown Pike (OH-4). From Dayton to Germantown, OH
Springboro Pike (OH-741). From Moraine to Springboro.
Dayton-Covington Pike (OH-48). Name rarely used anymore. Now N. Main St. or
just 48.
Dayton-Lebanon Pike (OH-48). Also, mostly just called 48 outside of town.
Known as "Far Hills" in Oakwood and
Kettering, and S. Main St. in Centerville.
Dayton-Salem Pike (OH-49). Name rarely used anymore. Now Salem Ave. or just
49 (north of the new Trotwood
Connector). The namesake town was changed from Salem to Clayton many years ago
to avoid confusion with another
town by the same name.
Dayton-Eaton Pike (US-35). Now just 35 (west of the new US-35 semi-freeway)
Dayton-Xenia Pike(?) Not sure about this one. I've mostly heard this as
Dayton-Xenia Road. I think it followed
the Dayton-Xenia Railway interurban route. Would have been US-35 before the
highway was built.
As far as I know, no pike designations were ever given in the area for sections
of Dixie Highway (former US-25)
or National Rd. (US-40).
Doug Krause
BCBA <sys...@prisma-graphicdesign.com> wrote:
> Lots of 'em in PA.
One of my favorite names, a bit south of Allentown, is Swamp Pike.