Houston/San Antonio interstate questions

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Magyar

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Apr 18, 2005, 12:03:47 AM4/18/05
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I partook in a school field trip from Baton Rouge to San Antonio this
weekend and have two observations I am curious about.

How wide is I-10 going to be west of I-610? TxDoT appears to be
clearing/building a swath as wide as the current roadway through there.
Did US 59 follow Katy Rd/Freeway once upon a time? I saw diner named after
"59" out that way.

What is the set-up for the double decker section of I-35 between I-10 west
and I-37 (northside of San Antonio)?
I don't think I've seen a double decker (N/S/N/S) setup before.

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HoustonFreeways

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Apr 18, 2005, 12:31:31 AM4/18/05
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> How wide is I-10 going to be west of I-610? TxDoT appears to be
> clearing/building a swath as wide as the current roadway through there.

It will generally be a mininum of 10 continuous general-purpose free lanes
and 4 toll lanes from Loop 610 to Highway 6 (about 13 miles). However, there
will typically be additional auxiliary lanes. East of BW8, there is a
section with 14 general purpose lanes plus the toll lanes. Frontage roads
will be a minimum of 3 lanes in each direction with more lanes in merging
zones and at intersections.

> Did US 59 follow Katy Rd/Freeway once upon a time? I saw diner named
> after "59" out that way.
>

No, US 59 did not follow the Katy Freeway alignment. However, US 90A (parts
of which were US 59 once upon a time) did serve as the route to San Antonio
and probably was US 90, the precursor to Interstate 10. So the ancestor of
the Katy Freeway actually followed US 59.

The 59 Diner refers to the year 1959. There are at least two others in
Houston, the original on Shepherd near US 59 and one on SH 249.

That particular 59 Diner that you saw will be demolished to clear way for
the expansion.

> What is the set-up for the double decker section of I-35 between I-10 west
> and I-37 (northside of San Antonio)?
> I don't think I've seen a double decker (N/S/N/S) setup before.
>

Even though I've driven on it a few times, I can't provide exact details so
I'll leave that to a San Antonio specialist.


colin

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Apr 18, 2005, 12:46:55 PM4/18/05
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Magyar wrote:
> Did US 59 follow Katy Rd/Freeway once upon a time? I saw diner named
after
> "59" out that way.

No, but it is confusing, isn't it? I believe the first one was the one
on 59 and Shephard, which makes it even more confusing. The food isn't
really that good there though.

>
> What is the set-up for the double decker section of I-35 between I-10
west
> and I-37 (northside of San Antonio)?
> I don't think I've seen a double decker (N/S/N/S) setup before.

There's also one along I-35 in Austin. It's MUCH older than the one in
San Antonio and in terrible condition.

Patrick Lee Humphrey

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Apr 18, 2005, 7:24:15 PM4/18/05
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"colin" <slov...@lycos.com> writes:

>Magyar wrote:
>> Did US 59 follow Katy Rd/Freeway once upon a time? I saw diner named after
>> "59" out that way.

>No, but it is confusing, isn't it? I believe the first one was the one
>on 59 and Shephard, which makes it even more confusing. The food isn't
>really that good there though.

It's decent. (De gustibus non est disputandum, and all that.) The location
on I-10 will be relocating westward - apparently, the preferred site is
between Bunker Hill and Blalock on the inbound side.

>> What is the set-up for the double decker section of I-35 between I-10 west
>> and I-37 (northside of San Antonio)? I don't think I've seen a double
>> decker (N/S/N/S) setup before.

>There's also one along I-35 in Austin. It's MUCH older than the one in
>San Antonio and in terrible condition.

Actually, both decks of I-35 in Austin are north and southbound, with the
upper deck handling the express traffic between 15th and just south of
Airport. (The lower deck, providing access to the intersections between the
two named intersections, isn't for the faint of heart, in my experience, and I
avoid it unless absolutely necessary when we're in Austin.)

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Rich Piehl

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Apr 18, 2005, 7:48:39 PM4/18/05
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Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:
The lower deck, providing access to the intersections between the
> two named intersections, isn't for the faint of heart, in my experience, and I
> avoid it unless absolutely necessary when we're in Austin.)
>

We only drive it when we're visiting Austin once or twice a year, so we
don't have a lot of experience with it. But my wife and I have
determined that upper vs lower deck there is pretty much of a crap shoot
when it comes to congestion, merging and people doing stupid stuff.

"Should we do upper or lower deck, hon?"
"I dunno...lemme get out a coin and flip it."

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Patrick Lee Humphrey

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Apr 19, 2005, 12:08:04 AM4/19/05
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Rich Piehl <rpiehl5R...@FORNOSPAMcharter.net> writes:

>Patrick Lee Humphrey wrote:

>> The lower deck, providing access to the intersections between the two named
>> intersections, isn't for the faint of heart, in my experience, and I avoid
>> it unless absolutely necessary when we're in Austin.)

>We only drive it when we're visiting Austin once or twice a year, so we don't
>have a lot of experience with it. But my wife and I have determined that
>upper vs lower deck there is pretty much of a crap shoot when it comes to
>congestion, merging and people doing stupid stuff.

>"Should we do upper or lower deck, hon?"
>"I dunno...lemme get out a coin and flip it."

Sounds like me and Mrs. C, on more than one occasion...Austin's great if
you're headed north or south, and not so great if you have to go east or
west. It's almost easier to make the annual MS150 ride up there pedaling a
bicycle - at least I can get around Austin that way...;-)

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