Highest numbered Street in U.S.? Highest Numbered Address?

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George Grapman

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Aug 22, 2005, 7:28:55 PM8/22/05
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I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.

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Jim

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The highest numbered street in NYC is actually 271st Street. I'm sure there
are higher numbers in other big cities (Chicago, Los Angeles, etc.)
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Rollin With The Flava

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Jim wrote:


Riverside County, CA has some address numbers ranging in the 86 000-90 000's
IIRC-though they don't have the numbered streets to go with them. Maricopa
County, AZ has continuously numbered streets ranging into the 570's to the
west of Phoenix. NYC's numbered streets don't REALLY mean anything, since
they don't correspond with block numbers, like they sometimes do out west
of here. Most numbers in the Northeast are quasi-consecutive. Still, we do
get five-digit house numbers on NY 22, and the house numbering on NY 97 in
Orange, Sullvan and Delaware Counties is continuous along the
route-counting north from Port Jervis and ending up in Hancock(ewww!) at
22k-something.

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George Grapman wrote:

>
> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.
>

Hamilton County, Indiana numbers their streets based on the Indianapolis
numbering system starting at 96th Street which is the Hamilton-Marion
county line. The highest street that I know of is 296th St. that is near
the Tipton-Hamilton county line. A quick check of Google Maps confirms
this. Most addresses other than those close to Marion County border are
5 digits (the ones on north-south roads of course)

5 digit addresses are common in Central Indiana, East addresses east of
Mitthoeffer Road on the East side of Indy have 5 digit addresses.

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Jim wrote:

> The highest numbered street in NYC is actually 271st Street. I'm sure there
> are higher numbers in other big cities (Chicago, Los Angeles, etc.)
> "George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
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>> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
>> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.

Actually I cannot place any street numbered in the 200's in Chicago/Cook
County (City of Chicago only goes to 95th) - and Chicago is 8 streets
per mile.

MC Pee Pants

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There are streets in the 400s south of Kansas City, on the Kansas side.

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Scott Nuzum

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Aug 22, 2005, 8:57:17 PM8/22/05
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If by "street," we mean any thouroughfare, then the Miami-Linn county line
south of Overland Park, KS, is 408th Street but its a dirt road way out in
the boonies.

I'm also almost certain the Sedgwick-Kingman county line is identified by
Sedgwick County as an even higher number. I think 415th Street West.


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Michael G. Koerner

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There is a 1010th Rd along WI 29 (or old WI 29) a short distance west of
Chippewa Falls, WI.

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Sir Hailstone the BOFH® wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>
>> The highest numbered street in NYC is actually 271st Street. I'm sure
>> there are higher numbers in other big cities (Chicago, Los Angeles, etc.)
>> "George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
>> news:XctOe.3633$Z87...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>>
>>> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
>>> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.
>
>
> Actually I cannot place any street numbered in the 200's in Chicago/Cook
> County (City of Chicago only goes to 95th) - and Chicago is 8 streets
> per mile.

The City of Chicago goes south to 138th St. This is where the city meets the
south suburban Village of Dolton.

Nate Nagel

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Aug 22, 2005, 9:28:37 PM8/22/05
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Michael G. Koerner wrote:
> Sir Hailstone the BOFH® wrote:
>
>> Jim wrote:
>>
>>> The highest numbered street in NYC is actually 271st Street. I'm sure
>>> there are higher numbers in other big cities (Chicago, Los Angeles,
>>> etc.)
>>> "George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
>>> news:XctOe.3633$Z87...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>>>
>>>> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
>>>> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually I cannot place any street numbered in the 200's in
>> Chicago/Cook County (City of Chicago only goes to 95th) - and Chicago
>> is 8 streets per mile.
>
>
> The City of Chicago goes south to 138th St. This is where the city
> meets the south suburban Village of Dolton.
>

I used to live near east 260th in Euclid, OH (suburb of Cleveland) and I
believe the numbered streets continued on east for a while. I seem to
remember at least into the mid-270s and they may have gone higher, but
that was pretty close to the county line.

I would guess Midwestern cities would be your best bet for things like
this as cities are less geographically constrained there.

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Nate Nagel

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Aug 22, 2005, 9:33:26 PM8/22/05
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Nate Nagel wrote:
> Michael G. Koerner wrote:
>

Just Mapquested it, actually shows a East 365th before the whole
sequence runs into Willoughby. Pretty impressive. Should have
remembered that, because isn't that where Stoddard's (the Porsche
dealership that has the big swap meet every year) is located? Off of
Mentor Ave, no less, which is the main road that E. 365th intersects.

Stephen Dailey

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794th Avenue NE intersects US2 in Skykomish, Washington.

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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 23:28:55 GMT, George Grapman <sfge...@paccbell.net>
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>
> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.
>

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Magyar

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"Nate Nagel" <njn...@flycast.net> wrote in message
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> Michael G. Koerner wrote:

>> Sir Hailstone the BOFHŽ wrote:
>>
>>> Jim wrote:
>>>
>>>> The highest numbered street in NYC is actually 271st Street. I'm sure
>>>> there are higher numbers in other big cities (Chicago, Los Angeles,
>>>> etc.)
>>>> "George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:XctOe.3633$Z87...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>>>>
>>>>> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
>>>>> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually I cannot place any street numbered in the 200's in Chicago/Cook
>>> County (City of Chicago only goes to 95th) - and Chicago is 8 streets
>>> per mile.
>>
>>
>> The City of Chicago goes south to 138th St. This is where the city meets
>> the south suburban Village of Dolton.
>>
>
> I used to live near east 260th in Euclid, OH (suburb of Cleveland) and I
> believe the numbered streets continued on east for a while. I seem to
> remember at least into the mid-270s and they may have gone higher, but
> that was pretty close to the county line.
>
> I would guess Midwestern cities would be your best bet for things like
> this as cities are less geographically constrained there.

I thought we determined long ago that Salt Lake City/Utah had the highest
numbered street.
I have 49043 (not a multiplex) listed as the highest # on my Rand McMally of
SLC.
(FWIW, 49043 is located south of Park City)

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Aug 22, 2005, 10:21:08 PM8/22/05
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> George Grapman wrote:
> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.

If you consider numbering systems that begin in a given metro area, I
offer the following:

Dakota County, MN numbers their east-west roads as streets, with "0
Street" on a line even with the Minnesota state capital, and increasing
by 10 for every mile to the south. Both Goodhue County and Dodge
County continue this numbering scheme, so that one will find a 755th St
just north of the Dodge/Mower County line. Theoretically, that county
line would be 760th St, but they call it "Dodge/Mower Rd" instead.

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David J. Grabiner

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Aug 22, 2005, 10:24:45 PM8/22/05
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Nate Nagel <njn...@flycast.net> writes:

> I used to live near east 260th in Euclid, OH (suburb of Cleveland) and I
> believe the numbered streets continued on east for a while. I seem to
> remember at least into the mid-270s and they may have gone higher, but
> that was pretty close to the county line.
>
> I would guess Midwestern cities would be your best bet for things like
> this as cities are less geographically constrained there.

But the system need not be created by the city. Someone has already
cited 571st Avenue in Maricopa County, Arizona; it's part of the Phoenix
street system, but the city system is used in most of the county, at
eight blocks to the mile except for downtown (19th Avenue to 10th
Street). Thus 571st Avenue is just over 70 miles west of downtown.

I would assume that the highest address is in an unincorporated area of
San Bernardino or Riverside County in California, since they are the
largest counties (200 miles east to west).

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I knew it had to be further south than 95th; I grew up at 865 W. 107th St.,
which was very much within the city limits.

Slo


B.Schultz

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Aug 22, 2005, 11:52:38 PM8/22/05
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technically not 8 streets per-mile, but rather each 800 block numbers
constitute a mile

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"MC Pee Pants" <watNOS...@yahoo.com> writes:

>TV's George Grapman wrote:
>> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
>> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.

>There are streets in the 400s south of Kansas City, on the Kansas side.

South Dakota's range-line street grid has a 477 Street near its eastern border
(the Wyoming boundary is 100 Street, and the North Dakota line is 100 Avenue;
the street numbering is used mainly east of the Missouri River). My wife grew
up on 468 Street just north of 106 Avenue.

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"George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
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> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.

As for highest numbered address, many parts of Hawaii have two-part address
numbers with a total of five or six digits: a two-digit subdistrict or tax
subzone prefix, followed by a three or four digit suffix using
consecutively-assigned numbers (with the sequence starting at 100, or
sometimes zero).

The highest address number in Hawaii I've seen is at 99-1849 Aiea Heights
Drive, on Oahu in a close-in suburb of Honolulu. The Big Island also has
99-xxx numbers, but there aren't enough people in that part of the Kau
district (southernmost part of the island) to push the suffixes on any of
its roads into four digits.

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Richard M. Simpson, III

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Nate Nagel <njn...@flycast.net> wrote in
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> I used to live near east 260th in Euclid, OH (suburb of Cleveland) and I
> believe the numbered streets continued on east for a while. I seem to
> remember at least into the mid-270s and they may have gone higher, but
> that was pretty close to the county line.
>
> I would guess Midwestern cities would be your best bet for things like
> this as cities are less geographically constrained there.
>
> nate
>

But the street numbers in Cuyahoga County are REALLY weird. I know, for
instance, when I was station in Cleveland, I often went to the Taco Bell at
E 55 and Superior. Next door was a Rally's. The street that ran next to
the Rally's was E 58. Awfully short three blocks in my book. That, or a
REALLY large Taco Bell! :D

Richard

Richard M. Simpson, III

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grab...@alumni.princeton.edu (David J. Grabiner) wrote in
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> Nate Nagel <njn...@flycast.net> writes:
>
>> I used to live near east 260th in Euclid, OH (suburb of Cleveland) and I
>> believe the numbered streets continued on east for a while. I seem to
>> remember at least into the mid-270s and they may have gone higher, but
>> that was pretty close to the county line.
>>
>> I would guess Midwestern cities would be your best bet for things like
>> this as cities are less geographically constrained there.
>
> But the system need not be created by the city. Someone has already
> cited 571st Avenue in Maricopa County, Arizona; it's part of the Phoenix
> street system, but the city system is used in most of the county, at
> eight blocks to the mile except for downtown (19th Avenue to 10th
> Street). Thus 571st Avenue is just over 70 miles west of downtown.
>
> I would assume that the highest address is in an unincorporated area of
> San Bernardino or Riverside County in California, since they are the
> largest counties (200 miles east to west).
>

That being the case, Indianapolis is an anomoly. Hamilton County continues
Indianapolis's numbered streets from 96th (Marion-Hamilton County Line) to
296th (Hamilton-Tipton County Line). Rural areas of Hamilton County are
numbered to Indianapolis, in all directions, I think. I know that there
ARE addresses in the 29000+ range in northern Hamilton County. The mileage
system is accurate in Hamilton County, 10 to the mile. Indianapolis
(Marion County) is weird. 96th Street is 11 miles from Washington Street
(as close to survey center of the address world in Indianapolis).

Richard

Kurumi

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Aug 23, 2005, 2:16:02 AM8/23/05
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In article <XctOe.3633$Z87...@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, George
Grapman <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote:

> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.

I think there should be two categories: one for consecutively-numbered
streets (OK if some historical are missing), and one for grid systems.

Clayton, IL has an E. 3000th St, but the numbering system is tied into
the sparse county road grid.

The dirt road leading past my grandfather's old farm SE of Le Mars, IA
is now 380th St. (IIRC these numbers were set up to aid 911 response).

The Utahn "21000 S" actually translates to "210th St", though there are
some streets with resolution less than 100.

C Street is technically 3 x 10^8.

Unfortunately, there appear to be no Avogadro, Megiston, Googol (or
Google) streets.

Geesthacht, Germany has perhaps the smallest non-zero street number:
Planck St (about 6.6 x 10^-34)

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Macomb County MI has a 37 Mile Road; I thought there was a 38 Mile Road
on the line with Lapeer County but can't confirm that. Any higher mile
road numbers?

I recall reading once that the highest address was outside Nashville
MI, something in the high 80 thousands. Someone mentioned giving rural
places addresses for 911 emergency location purposes, where no numbers
previously existed. That may have caused the Nashville number to have
been surpassed.

The Chief Instigator

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"Gary V" <gjvo...@comcast.net> writes:

Actually, it was the northern edge of Detroit's addressing system - Memphis,
at the northern edge of Macomb County (not far west of Port Huron). There is
a Nashville in Michigan, but it's about midway between Lansing and Kalamazoo.

Marc Fannin

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Nate Nagel wrote:

> Nate Nagel wrote:
>
> > I used to live near east 260th in Euclid, OH (suburb of Cleveland) and I
> > believe the numbered streets continued on east for a while. I seem to
> > remember at least into the mid-270s and they may have gone higher, but

> > that was pretty close to the county line. [snip]


>
> Just Mapquested it, actually shows a East 365th before the whole
> sequence runs into Willoughby. Pretty impressive. Should have
> remembered that, because isn't that where Stoddard's (the Porsche
> dealership that has the big swap meet every year) is located? Off of
> Mentor Ave, no less, which is the main road that E. 365th intersects.

Then you missed E. 367th off of Lakeland Blvd., right by the SR-2/640
(Vine St.) interchange. ;)

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.640383,-81.426609&spn=0.005393,0.010987

IIRC this is the highest number per my many looks through MapQuest,
Google Maps, and the locally-produced Commercial Survey ("red book")
atlases. So no contest regarding some other cities/counties.

BTW, Stoddard is all the way on the east end on US-20 (Mentor Ave.),
right by the Mentor line, well past the Cleveland numbering scheme.
http://www.stoddard.com/about_us.htm

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Frogster

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Rollin With The Flava wrote:


> west of Phoenix. NYC's numbered streets don't REALLY mean anything, since
> they don't correspond with block numbers, like they sometimes do out west
>

Assuming that you are refering to the Manhattan street grid above
Houston Street that extends north into The Bronx, since there are
multiple grids. Why don't the numbered streets mean anything? I use
Avenue addresses often to figure the nearest intersecting street.

There is a method to the madness. 20 addresses to the block, unless
they are only on one side of the Avenue, then it's all 10 on the one
side. All you then need is where the Avenue starts. Granted, not as
easy as most of Queens, but do-able.


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Richard M. Simpson, III wrote:

> That being the case, Indianapolis is an anomoly. Hamilton County continues
> Indianapolis's numbered streets from 96th (Marion-Hamilton County Line) to
> 296th (Hamilton-Tipton County Line). Rural areas of Hamilton County are
> numbered to Indianapolis, in all directions, I think. I know that there
> ARE addresses in the 29000+ range in northern Hamilton County. The mileage
> system is accurate in Hamilton County, 10 to the mile. Indianapolis
> (Marion County) is weird. 96th Street is 11 miles from Washington Street
> (as close to survey center of the address world in Indianapolis).
>
> Richard

Read my post ^^^^^^^ Up there Richard.

Where on Washington St. did you see that?

I checked myself some years ago and from Washington Street and Delaware
St it was 1.0 miles to 10th and Delaware [by my car odo]. Meridian St
has some bends in it around 2nd Prez Church and White River so that
could explain the mileage difference to 96th.

With respect to Hamilton county, I seem to recall a mailbox on US31 near
the Tipton Co line with the address something like 29997 or something of
that nature. I haven't been that way in a while and I'm too cheap with
$2.50 fuel to go roadtripping to find out.

ralph

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Gary V wrote:
> Macomb County MI has a 37 Mile Road; I thought there was a 38 Mile Road
> on the line with Lapeer County but can't confirm that. Any higher mile
> road numbers?
>
What about 13800 South Street in Salt lake City UT?

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It becomes "Wayne's World Drive".

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ralph wrote:

> Gary V wrote:
>
>> Macomb County MI has a 37 Mile Road; I thought there was a 38 Mile Road
>> on the line with Lapeer County but can't confirm that. Any higher mile
>> road numbers?
>>
> What about 13800 South Street in Salt lake City UT?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/aku3b
>
> It becomes "Wayne's World Drive".
>

No way!

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ralph <omni...@BLERF.netperson.net> writes:

>Gary V wrote:
>> Macomb County MI has a 37 Mile Road; I thought there was a 38 Mile Road
>> on the line with Lapeer County but can't confirm that. Any higher mile
>> road numbers?

>What about 13800 South Street in Salt lake City UT?

> http://tinyurl.com/aku3b

>It becomes "Wayne's World Drive".

It's the equivalent of 138th South Street. I've noticed that the more
conventional form got used fairly often in SLC media, when I visited back in
2001.

Malarky

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Aug 25, 2005, 4:50:48 AM8/25/05
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Portland Metro: SE 502nd Ave in Clackamas County.
The address grid itself continues along US 26 (Mt Hood Highway);
Welches area has addresses around 685xx range (~685th Ave). I think it
continues to Zigzag (700xx) and Rhododendron (720xx).

On the West side, the highest address block according to my 06 Thomas
Guide is 49600 on SW Scoggins Valley Road. SW 407th Terrace gets the
honor of being the highest numbered street.

North-South addresses run down to around 420xx south of Estacada
(probably bigger along the OR 213 corridor south of Molalla).

The general distance rule for Portland Metro addresses is 20 blocks to
the mile, so if traveling down a street and you start at 20200 and end
at 22200, you've gone about a mile.
There are several grids in the Portland area-- Hillsboro, Gresham,
Oregon City and Molalla use there own grids on top of Portland's--
Division St runs 300-19000 as SE Division on the Portland grid,
switches to NW Division 3000-000 in Gresham to Main St, the N-S
baseline, to NE Division 000-4600 and back to SE Divsion Dr 27600-31700
on the Portland grid. On top of that, 202nd Ave is known as Birdsdale,
242nd is Hogan Dr, and 257th is Kane Rd (all in Gresham), a reminder of
the dual grid scheme in Gresham. 202nd is block 2000 West, 242nd is
2000 East and 257th is 3400 East.

Christopher Steig

Marc Fannin

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Aug 25, 2005, 4:59:11 PM8/25/05
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George Grapman wrote:

> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.

Various cities in Northern Indiana and Northern Ohio that I know about
have streets with only 5-digit addresses (e.g. starting at 25000 and
going up). I assume that this is common elsewhere as well.

John David Galt

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Aug 25, 2005, 7:35:36 PM8/25/05
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George Grapman wrote:
> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.

The highest numbered street almost has to be in metro Salt Lake City,
where addresses take the form "2800 West 30800 North" (and 30800 North
is the street name). In any other place, that street would be called
308th St. if it were numbered at all. That numbering system extends
into most (all?) of SLC's suburbs, but I don't know what the highest
numbered street is, only that it's at least five digits.

Oscar Voss added:


> The highest address number in Hawaii I've seen is at 99-1849 Aiea Heights
> Drive, on Oahu in a close-in suburb of Honolulu. The Big Island also has
> 99-xxx numbers, but there aren't enough people in that part of the Kau
> district (southernmost part of the island) to push the suffixes on any of
> its roads into four digits.

I've seen that two-part address system one other place: southern
British Columbia, in the suburbs east of Vancouver. I don't know the
significance of the prefix portion (99- in your example), but it does
not seem to be just part of a long number (there isn't any place where
34-9999 is near 35-0000, for instance). I suspect the prefix just
identifies some kind of service area, such as a fire district, so the
dispatcher knows whom to send if a resident needs help.

John David Galt

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Aug 25, 2005, 7:38:40 PM8/25/05
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ralph wrote:
> What about 13800 South Street in Salt lake City UT?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/aku3b
>
> It becomes "Wayne's World Drive".

We are not worthy!

Marc Fannin

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Aug 25, 2005, 8:37:04 PM8/25/05
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Richard M. Simpson, III wrote:

> Nate Nagel <njn...@flycast.net> wrote...:


>
> > I used to live near east 260th in Euclid, OH (suburb of Cleveland) and I
> > believe the numbered streets continued on east for a while. I seem to
> > remember at least into the mid-270s and they may have gone higher, but
> > that was pretty close to the county line.
> >
> > I would guess Midwestern cities would be your best bet for things like
> > this as cities are less geographically constrained there.
>

> But the street numbers in Cuyahoga County are REALLY weird. I know, for
> instance, when I was station in Cleveland, I often went to the Taco Bell at
> E 55 and Superior. Next door was a Rally's. The street that ran next to
> the Rally's was E 58. Awfully short three blocks in my book. That, or a
> REALLY large Taco Bell! :D

While browsing Google Maps, I think I figured it out. Most of the time
numbered streets are north-south, but sometimes they're perpendicular
to raods which run along the Lake Erie shoreline, which, east of
downtown Cleveland, is pretty much northeast-southwest. When those two
sets come together, sometimes some numbers are "squeezed out". Other
times, streets simply don't line up right.

For instance, start at the intersection you cited

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.518346,-81.651464&spn=0.010806,0.021975

...and scroll due south. At one point, only odd numbers 55 and up
exist (e.g. just south of US-6/Superior, at US-322/Chester, and at
Central).

Michael G. Koerner

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Aug 25, 2005, 10:19:22 PM8/25/05
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Many of the Washtington and Waukesha County Milwaukee, WI suburbs use a highly
redundant and hard for a newcomer to figure out alpha-numeric soup of two-part
addresses in the form 'N57 W12845 Xxxxxx Rd', where the first part is how far
north, south or west the street is and the second being where on the street
the specific address is. If that street takes a turn, those numbers will
reverse, so that the place next door but around the curve may have the address
'W128 N5722 Xxxxx Rd'. From what I know about it, and this can confuse things
even more, these address numbers are not based on the location of the main
driveway entrance, rather it is the specific grid location of the building, so
a house set waaaay back on a long, winding driveway will have address numbers
bearing little resemblence to the ones right next to the street on either side
of the long driveway.

Most of these addresses are based on the Milwaukee city grid and nearly all of
the addresses in Milwaukee County (all except the City of South Milwaukee,
which uses its own grid) along with the Waukesha County City of Brookfield and
Villages of Butler and Elm Grove use the more conventional '1234 N 56 St'
format, while most of both countys' older incorporated places use their own
conventional grids. Southern Ozaukee County uses Milwaukee's grid, too, but
in the conventional manner.

Malarky

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Aug 26, 2005, 3:17:47 AM8/26/05
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There are at least two grids in the Salt Lake Metro:
Salt Lake's down to Sandy/Draper, then Provo's (which goes north to
Lehi, I believe). I'll double check my RMN street guide at some point.

Richard M. Simpson, III

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Aug 27, 2005, 1:10:03 AM8/27/05
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"Marc Fannin" <musx...@kent.edu> wrote in
news:1125016624.9...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


> While browsing Google Maps, I think I figured it out. Most of the
> time numbered streets are north-south, but sometimes they're
> perpendicular to raods which run along the Lake Erie shoreline, which,
> east of downtown Cleveland, is pretty much northeast-southwest. When
> those two sets come together, sometimes some numbers are "squeezed
> out". Other times, streets simply don't line up right.
>
> For instance, start at the intersection you cited
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.518346,-81.651464&spn=0.010806,0.0219
> 75
>
> ...and scroll due south. At one point, only odd numbers 55 and up
> exist (e.g. just south of US-6/Superior, at US-322/Chester, and at
> Central).
>

Marc,

When the Navy banished me to Cleveland for two years in the mid 90's, I
always was amused at the screwed-up streets there. It took me almost 3
hours to find the Federal Building the first day, because I was looking for
the 1200 block of East Ninth...which is about four blocks south of the
lake.

When I was given an assignment, it was in Bratenahl...another four hour
journey looking for the place. No one told me that 555 E 88th Street was
right on the lakefront!

Spending most of my life here in Indianapolis, I was not ready for the
concept that the "E" and "W" in the street names actually meant east and
west of "center," such as it is. Cleveland starts OUT whacked, with
downtown being E 3, E 6, E 9, W 3, W 6, and W 9, and so on. I also
discovered that street signs in Cleveland, at least in the '92-'94 era,
were not very helpful. One of my girlfriends lived on "OAK PARK." That
was all the sign read. My three residences were in Parma and Parma
Heights, so we had real street signs.

Nothing quite like the confusion when I saw a street sign on the westside
that simply read "SIDE." The other fun one was "ALLEY."

Richard

Paul DeRocco

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Aug 27, 2005, 4:48:44 PM8/27/05
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> "Stephen Dailey" <smda...@seanet.com> wrote
> 794th Avenue NE intersects US2 in Skykomish, Washington.

On MSS&T, I see an 876th Ave NE further out on route 2, still in Skykomish.

A lot of little King County roads appear to be numbered in this way,
relative to the Seattle grid. However, "downtown" Skykomish uses its own
low-numbered street numbers.

--

Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco
Paul mailto:pder...@ix.netcom.com


Paul DeRocco

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Aug 27, 2005, 4:54:52 PM8/27/05
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> "Malarky" <Malarky....@gmail.com> wrote

>
> Portland Metro: SE 502nd Ave in Clackamas County.
> The address grid itself continues along US 26 (Mt Hood Highway);
> Welches area has addresses around 685xx range (~685th Ave). I think it
> continues to Zigzag (700xx) and Rhododendron (720xx).

MSS&T shows addresses up to 90399 in Government Camp. Don't know whether I
trust it, though.

Alex Tsiatas

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Aug 27, 2005, 5:01:37 PM8/27/05
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> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.

I think I remember 6-digit address numbers on US-1 (Overseas Highway)
in Key Largo. I think the addresses started in Key West and just kept
increasing through the keys.

Stephen Dailey

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Aug 27, 2005, 9:02:29 PM8/27/05
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:48:44 -0700, Paul DeRocco <pder...@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>> "Stephen Dailey" <smda...@seanet.com> wrote
>> 794th Avenue NE intersects US2 in Skykomish, Washington.
>
> On MSS&T, I see an 876th Ave NE further out on route 2, still in
> Skykomish.

Hmm, I'll have to keep an eye out for this one next time I go over Stevens
Pass.

> A lot of little King County roads appear to be numbered in this way,
> relative to the Seattle grid. However, "downtown" Skykomish uses its own
> low-numbered street numbers.

This is common throughout King County. Kirkland, Kent, Auburn, and
Tukwila are a few cities I can think of that use their own numbering
systems in the downtown area and the King County system elsewhere (well,
OK, Tukwila doesn't really have a downtown, but the principle applies).
Renton uses its own system throughout.

===
Steve
Shoreline, Washington USA
smda...@seanet.com
27 Aug 2005, 1802 PDT

Brian Purcell

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Aug 30, 2005, 12:19:34 PM8/30/05
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George Grapman wrote:
> I know that NYC goes up to 242nd St.
> Some part of the LA area has five digit addresses.

I-10 West follows San Antonio's numbering system well into Kendall
County. The highest address I can find on it is in Comfort: 52279.

--Brian Purcell
San Antonio, Texas, USA
mailto:br...@texhwyman.com
http://www.texhwyman.com

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