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richard
Jan 20, 2012, 12:55:30 PM1/20/12
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Just wondering which department has authority on US highways in the Navajo
nation reservation.Let's say you''re on US 550 in NM and you get pulled
over by the tribal police for speeding. Do they cite you under state law or
tribal law? Are they even allowed to cite?
In my early days of trucking, I was talking to a driver who worked for
Navajo trucking, which is owned and operated by the tribe.
He said a buddy of his were travelling east on I-40 and were tooting along
well over the speed limit, when they get pulled over by a state trooper.
His claim was, that the state trooper had no authority since they were on
tribal land. Personally, I think he's full of shit.
Over the years, I have been looking for, and have yet to see, any sign on
I-40 that indicates you have entered Navajo land.The maps I've seen show
the reservation does not cover any part of I-40 at all. And I've never seen
a tribal officer patrol the roadway.
Does anyone know for sure?
nation reservation.Let's say you''re on US 550 in NM and you get pulled
over by the tribal police for speeding. Do they cite you under state law or
tribal law? Are they even allowed to cite?
In my early days of trucking, I was talking to a driver who worked for
Navajo trucking, which is owned and operated by the tribe.
He said a buddy of his were travelling east on I-40 and were tooting along
well over the speed limit, when they get pulled over by a state trooper.
His claim was, that the state trooper had no authority since they were on
tribal land. Personally, I think he's full of shit.
Over the years, I have been looking for, and have yet to see, any sign on
I-40 that indicates you have entered Navajo land.The maps I've seen show
the reservation does not cover any part of I-40 at all. And I've never seen
a tribal officer patrol the roadway.
Does anyone know for sure?
Paul D. DeRocco
Jan 20, 2012, 9:08:52 PM1/20/12
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> "richard" <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote
If MSS&T is correct, the easternmost 18 miles of I-40 in AZ cut across a
corner of the Navajo Indian Reservation.
A couple years ago, I was stopped for speeding (10mph over) on US-191 near
Canyon de Chelly by an Indian cop whose car identified him as a Navajo
officer. He gave me a regular Arizona ticket.
Amazingly, due to a communication snafu between California, where I had been
late in paying another ticket a year earlier, and Massachusetts, where I was
licensed, my license had been quietly suspended without any notification.
The cop informed me of this, but because the computer didn't give a reason
for the suspension, he let me go on my way with nothing but the speeding
citation. Nice guy.
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corner of the Navajo Indian Reservation.
A couple years ago, I was stopped for speeding (10mph over) on US-191 near
Canyon de Chelly by an Indian cop whose car identified him as a Navajo
officer. He gave me a regular Arizona ticket.
Amazingly, due to a communication snafu between California, where I had been
late in paying another ticket a year earlier, and Massachusetts, where I was
licensed, my license had been quietly suspended without any notification.
The cop informed me of this, but because the computer didn't give a reason
for the suspension, he let me go on my way with nothing but the speeding
citation. Nice guy.
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richard
Jan 20, 2012, 11:10:36 PM1/20/12
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Found this map of the nation and there are apparently a couple of places
where the boundary crosses I-40.
http://www.lapahie.com/Navajo_Map_Lg.cfm
H.B. Elkins
Jan 21, 2012, 12:52:40 PM1/21/12
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In article <RKednQ7lm4Oqg4fS...@earthlink.com>, Paul D. DeRocco
says...
>Amazingly, due to a communication snafu between California, where I had been
>late in paying another ticket a year earlier, and Massachusetts, where I was
>licensed, my license had been quietly suspended without any notification.
>The cop informed me of this, but because the computer didn't give a reason
>for the suspension, he let me go on my way with nothing but the speeding
>citation. Nice guy.
Had a friend who discovered her license had been suspended because of a wreck (I
can't really comprehend the details of how that happened) when she went through
a roadblock several months ago. Amazingly, her license had been suspended when
she went to renew it and they didn't even tell her at that time. They went ahead
and processed her renewal.
The only way she can get her license back is to file for bankruptcy. I don't
understand how that works, either.
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says...
>Amazingly, due to a communication snafu between California, where I had been
>late in paying another ticket a year earlier, and Massachusetts, where I was
>licensed, my license had been quietly suspended without any notification.
>The cop informed me of this, but because the computer didn't give a reason
>for the suspension, he let me go on my way with nothing but the speeding
>citation. Nice guy.
can't really comprehend the details of how that happened) when she went through
a roadblock several months ago. Amazingly, her license had been suspended when
she went to renew it and they didn't even tell her at that time. They went ahead
and processed her renewal.
The only way she can get her license back is to file for bankruptcy. I don't
understand how that works, either.
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Ralph Herman
Jan 21, 2012, 1:33:52 PM1/21/12
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On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:10:36 -0800, richard wrote
(in article <1rbrxzmtyjgd4.x...@40tude.net>):
I drove I-40 across the Navajo Nation in Arizona dozens of times, and the
Navajo Nation boundary is clearly marked on I-40 (and all other ADOT routes)
State maintained highways are built and maintained by compacts between the
state and the particular reservation, and IIRC in Arizona the state has
"primary" highway patrol responsibilities on state routes across tribal
territory.
That said, Navajo Nation is a sovereign territory and they can (and do)
enforce traffic laws on their lands. I have seen both Arizona DPS and Navajo
police pull over drivers on I-40.
Ralph
(in article <1rbrxzmtyjgd4.x...@40tude.net>):
Navajo Nation boundary is clearly marked on I-40 (and all other ADOT routes)
State maintained highways are built and maintained by compacts between the
state and the particular reservation, and IIRC in Arizona the state has
"primary" highway patrol responsibilities on state routes across tribal
territory.
That said, Navajo Nation is a sovereign territory and they can (and do)
enforce traffic laws on their lands. I have seen both Arizona DPS and Navajo
police pull over drivers on I-40.
Ralph
Richard Carlson, N9JIG
Jan 21, 2012, 4:26:37 PM1/21/12
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In article <jfeu1...@drn.newsguy.com>,
Most states have a Fiscal Responsibility statute that requires a driver
in a wreck to have sufficient insurance or financial means to pay
judgements and damages. If they do not, or if they don't actually pay,
then the DL can be suspended until it is paid or the person has been
relieved of their debts.
Depending on the computer systems in place, the DMV/SOS etc. may not
have seen the suspension on file when the license was renewed, or it
could have been overlooked.
in a wreck to have sufficient insurance or financial means to pay
judgements and damages. If they do not, or if they don't actually pay,
then the DL can be suspended until it is paid or the person has been
relieved of their debts.
Depending on the computer systems in place, the DMV/SOS etc. may not
have seen the suspension on file when the license was renewed, or it
could have been overlooked.
H.B. Elkins
Jan 21, 2012, 9:10:02 PM1/21/12
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In article <usenet-2CE303....@news.eternal-september.org>, Richard
Carlson, N9JIG says...
>Most states have a Fiscal Responsibility statute that requires a driver
>in a wreck to have sufficient insurance or financial means to pay
>judgements and damages. If they do not, or if they don't actually pay,
>then the DL can be suspended until it is paid or the person has been
>relieved of their debts.
That's the thing. She had insurance. The other person opted not to turn it in to
insurance, but must have changed her mind later. By this time my friend had
moved. May even have changed insurance companies. She had definitely bought a
different vehicle.
Carlson, N9JIG says...
>Most states have a Fiscal Responsibility statute that requires a driver
>in a wreck to have sufficient insurance or financial means to pay
>judgements and damages. If they do not, or if they don't actually pay,
>then the DL can be suspended until it is paid or the person has been
>relieved of their debts.
insurance, but must have changed her mind later. By this time my friend had
moved. May even have changed insurance companies. She had definitely bought a
different vehicle.
Paul D. DeRocco
Jan 21, 2012, 10:33:56 PM1/21/12
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> "richard" <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote
community called Navajo appears. When you zoom out, it disappears. MSS&T has
a lot of junk like that.
>
> Depends on who you ask I guess.
> Found this map of the nation and there are apparently a couple of places
> where the boundary crosses I-40.
>
> http://www.lapahie.com/Navajo_Map_Lg.cfm
When you zoom in on MSS&T, that funny little appendage containing the
> Depends on who you ask I guess.
> Found this map of the nation and there are apparently a couple of places
> where the boundary crosses I-40.
>
> http://www.lapahie.com/Navajo_Map_Lg.cfm
community called Navajo appears. When you zoom out, it disappears. MSS&T has
a lot of junk like that.
daryl....@gmail.com
Jan 23, 2012, 11:28:34 AM1/23/12
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On Jan 20, 10:55 am, richard <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> In my early days of trucking, I was talking to a driver who worked for
> Navajo trucking, which is owned and operated by the tribe.
Navajo trucking does not seem to be owned by the Navajo nation. From
> In my early days of trucking, I was talking to a driver who worked for
> Navajo trucking, which is owned and operated by the tribe.
their website: "Navajo Express is a family owned business, owned and
operated by Don Digby Sr. and his family. We are a 48 state
refrigerated and dry van carrier, based out of Denver, CO."
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