Original-original McDonald's?
Lisa or Jeff
original McDonald's in San Bernadino, CA. When Ray Kroc bought them out,
he made them change their name and built his own McD's close by (he got
soured on working with them by his buyout). IIRC, the official "first"
McDonald's is Kroc's own in DesPlaines IL, which I heard is a museum now.
Anyone know more about the earliest locations?
Any stories about the earliest/oldest of another roadside franchise business
still in operation?
(I think the first Holiday Inn in Memphis is something else now.)
Rich Dean
A&E's Biography confirms this in their Ray Kroc bio. Back in late
1980's there was still at least one of the original style Golden Arches
operating on Keyser Avenue in Scranton PA -- Railpace (a railfan mag)
had a photo of 1950's style vehicles parked by it that was staged by
railfans visiting nearby Steamtown.
As for Holiday Inn, the chain was started by local builder
Kemmons Wilson after he experienced a nightmare of expensive hotels and
not so cheap seedy motels when taking his family on vacation to
Washington DC. Kemmons later sold Holiday Inn then he started some new
projects including Orange Lake Country Club Resort next to the Disney
property in Florida on a 300 acre tract that now has over 3000 time
share condos and is now expanding to another 600 acres; we have one
week at Orange Lake and it is for the "average Joe" as Kemmons says in
the continuous showing of his life story that plays on their own cable
system.
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Before you buy.
Jim Geiger
SC, right on I-85, in case anyone was interested.
Jim Geiger
>McDonald's is Kroc's own in DesPlaines IL, which I heard is a museum now.
>
>Anyone know more about the earliest locations?
I know the Des Plaines restaraunt, well.
I would have lunch (or just a shake, if I had gotten a filling) there after a
visit to my dentist (Dr Cliff Molson), who was right next door.
It is a small museum, now, though I haven't seen it since it was changed, as
I have not lived in Illinois since 1983.
I know that across the street, now, lies a new McD's. Progress sucks,
sometimes.
ad...@interlog.com
> There is a retro-style McD's complete with arches over the roof in Anderson,
> SC, right on I-85, in case anyone was interested.
How many of those exist? There's another one at 401 and Weston Rd in Toronto;
I'm surprised I haven't seen more...
Lisa or Jeff
I know of several older locations--bright red and white tile, full
size arches, take-out only, that were rebuilt into modern styles.
Before I got my cell phone, it used to annoy me that they didn't have
telephones on the premises. This was done on purpose to avoid loitering.
pkirby
>
> Before I got my cell phone, it used to annoy me that they didn't have
> telephones on the premises. This was done on purpose to avoid loitering.
Most of the McDonald's in Fredericton have pay phones in the parking
lot. I like the way the golden arches "stick together" around the
outside of it resembling a telephone cord.
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Joe Rouse
<ad...@interlog.com> wrote in message news:38785D69...@interlog.com...
> Jim Geiger wrote:
>
> > There is a retro-style McD's complete with arches over the roof in
Anderson,
> > SC, right on I-85, in case anyone was interested.
>
> How many of those exist? There's another one at 401 and Weston Rd in
Toronto;
> I'm surprised I haven't seen more...
>
There's one here in Sacto...they tore down a "modern" MickeyD's to build the
retro-style one on the same site. It's on Del Paso Blvd in North
Sacramento.
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Jim Rosin
>Anderson,
>> SC, right on I-85, in case anyone was interested.
>
>How many of those exist? There's another one at 401 and Weston Rd in
>Toronto;
>I'm surprised I haven't seen more...
>
>
Theres one in Middleton/Madison Wis. just of the Beltline (US 12/14)
Jim
Michael G. Koerner
The McD's on N Jackson St (US 45) just north of Murdock Av (WI 21) in
Oshkosh, WI is in that '50s Retro' style.
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MaryKDan
The first McDonalds, was in San Bernadino. Ray Kroc was a multimixer sales rep
(multimixers were the old shake machines from the time when they used to mix
the ice cream and the syrup to make a shake) who heard that the McDonalds
brothers were using an unheard-of EIGHT multimixers. When Kroc saw the
operation, he convinced the brothers to let him franchise it. Kroc's first
store was in Illionois (as noted earlier). Kroc's first franchisee was Art
Bender, who built his first store in Fresno, California, at Blackstone and
Shields. That store location has seen two demolitions, and the third
incarnation (opened in 1998) is a retro look, red-and-white building. (Side
note: I worked in that store from 1981 to 1986) There is no McDonalds on the
original San Bernadino site (at least there wasn't last time I looked for it,
ten years ago. I believe it was on D Street, but my memory is fading here.)
Art Bender sold his holdings back to the McD Corporation in 1980. Ray Kroc
died in 1984, months before his beloved Padres made it to their first World
Series.
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Rich Dean
mary...@aol.comhormel (MaryKDan) wrote:
>
> The first McDonalds, was in San Bernadino. Ray Kroc was a multimixer
sales rep
> (multimixers were the old shake machines from the time when they used
to mix
> the ice cream and the syrup to make a shake)
It's interesting how ice cream played a role in the founding of the
world's leading fast food company and there is another ice cream
connection to Ray Kroc, his friendship with Tom Carvel.
Back in the 1970's, the man who became famous for doing commercials
for his big chain of soft serve ice cream stores appeared on Tom
Snyder's Tomorrow program (NBC TV after Johnny Carson). He told how he
and Ray Kroc had been musicians together in the same "big band" and
that when Ray bought the McDonald's rights wanted Tom Carvel to become
a partner and they would do both burgers and ice cream at the same time.
Tom expressed his sorrow that he had laughed it off not thinking that
fast food would amount to anything. Carvel at one time had locations
in 38 states and is still very popular in the northeast with
distribution in many supermarkets, delis and convenience stores also.
When the original McDonald's (walk up with flat roof slanting to the
rear) are compared with the original Carvel's there is a remarkable
resemblance with Carvel being around a lot longer.
Rich Dean
Butler NJ
(where plans for the Golden Arches have been rejected 4 times by the
borough)
Kevin Paulk
The first McDonalds to include inside seating still stands, on Memorial
Parkway (U.S. 231) in Huntsville, Ala. Access is from the southbound
service (C/D) road, between Bob Wallace and Drake. It still has the
original sign, not the sleek, plastic "Billions and Billions Sold" signs
in use now. But the restaurant has been enlarged and modernized.
Kevin Paulk
Hermitage, TN
2 miles south of U.S. 70
MaryKDan wrote:
>
> The first McDonalds, was in San Bernadino. Ray Kroc was a multimixer sales rep
> (multimixers were the old shake machines from the time when they used to mix
Rich Dean
Kevin Paulk <kpa...@home.com> wrote:
> I'm coming to this thread late, so if my message is a repeat, I
apologize.
>
> The first McDonalds to include inside seating still stands, on
Memorial
> Parkway (U.S. 231) in Huntsville, Ala. Access is from the southbound
> service (C/D) road, between Bob Wallace and Drake. It still has the
> original sign, not the sleek, plastic "Billions and Billions Sold"
signs
> in use now. But the restaurant has been enlarged and modernized.
>
Any idea what year this one opened?
Kevin Paulk
Rich Dean wrote:
>
> In article <38B01935...@home.com>,
> Kevin Paulk <kpa...@home.com> wrote:
> >
> > The first McDonalds to include inside seating still stands, on
> Memorial
> > Parkway (U.S. 231) in Huntsville, Ala.
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