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A bit of biperoony about old Indiana time zones

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Random Waftings Of Bunker Blasts

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May 15, 2005, 9:56:14 PM5/15/05
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In my 1964 road atlas, the time zone boundary practically bisected the
state. Columbus and Kokomo were in Central Time, but Indianapolis and
all the adjacent counties were in Eastern Time. Elkhart was in Eastern
Time, but South Bend was in Central Time.

What possessed them to put most of the state on Eastern Time? It wasn't
that long ago that it was pretty much split down the middle.

As a side note, the time zone boundary in Utah was even weirder. The
boundary went right through the city limits of Salt Lake City.

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May 15, 2005, 10:19:44 PM5/15/05
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"Random Waftings Of Bunker Blasts" <mister19...@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:4287fc4c...@news.iglou.com...

> In my 1964 road atlas, the time zone boundary practically bisected the
> state. Columbus and Kokomo were in Central Time, but Indianapolis and
> all the adjacent counties were in Eastern Time. Elkhart was in Eastern
> Time, but South Bend was in Central Time.
>
> What possessed them to put most of the state on Eastern Time? It wasn't
> that long ago that it was pretty much split down the middle.
>
> As a side note, the time zone boundary in Utah was even weirder. The
> boundary went right through the city limits of Salt Lake City.

By contrast, my 1959 road atlas has all of Indiana (as well as Louisville
KY, and most of the rest of KY but not the suburbs of Cincinnati) in
Central. It also shows all of Utah in Mountain, along with some rural parts
of Nevada northeast of Las Vegas now in Central.

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Pat O'Connell

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May 15, 2005, 10:40:53 PM5/15/05
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Oscar Voss wrote:

> "Random Waftings Of Bunker Blasts" <mister19...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message news:4287fc4c...@news.iglou.com...
>> In my 1964 road atlas, the time zone boundary practically bisected the
>> state. Columbus and Kokomo were in Central Time, but Indianapolis and
>> all the adjacent counties were in Eastern Time. Elkhart was in Eastern
>> Time, but South Bend was in Central Time.
>>
>> What possessed them to put most of the state on Eastern Time? It wasn't
>> that long ago that it was pretty much split down the middle.
>>
>> As a side note, the time zone boundary in Utah was even weirder. The
>> boundary went right through the city limits of Salt Lake City.
>
> By contrast, my 1959 road atlas has all of Indiana (as well as Louisville
> KY, and most of the rest of KY but not the suburbs of Cincinnati) in
> Central. It also shows all of Utah in Mountain, along with some rural parts
> of Nevada northeast of Las Vegas now in Central.

"One of our time zones is missing." ^^^^^^^

I think you mean Mountain Time.

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Steve Riner

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May 15, 2005, 11:10:53 PM5/15/05
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Random Waftings Of Bunker Blasts wrote:
> In my 1964 road atlas, the time zone boundary practically bisected
the
> state. Columbus and Kokomo were in Central Time, but Indianapolis and
> all the adjacent counties were in Eastern Time. Elkhart was in
Eastern
> Time, but South Bend was in Central Time.
>
> What possessed them to put most of the state on Eastern Time? It
wasn't
> that long ago that it was pretty much split down the middle.
>
> As a side note, the time zone boundary in Utah was even weirder. The
> boundary went right through the city limits of Salt Lake City.
>
I picked up a 1920s-vintage atlas in an antique store one day.
Apparently, time zones have been creeping westward rather like the
tectonic drift of continents --- at that time, nearly all of Michigan
was in the Central time zone with the exception of Detroit and
environs.

Steve Riner
(resident of that "forgotten" time zone)
Pueblo West CO

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Arif Khokar

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May 16, 2005, 12:18:13 AM5/16/05
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Steve Riner wrote:
>
> I picked up a 1920s-vintage atlas in an antique store one day.
> Apparently, time zones have been creeping westward rather like the
> tectonic drift of continents --- at that time, nearly all of Michigan
> was in the Central time zone with the exception of Detroit and
> environs.

That doesn't explain why the Pacific timezone covers far more than it
should from a longitudinal standpoint.

william lynch

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May 16, 2005, 3:25:02 AM5/16/05
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Arif Khokar wrote:

The Pacific time zone is the only one that is close to the proper
dimensions. There are 24 time zones, so each zone covers 15
degrees. The median of the Pacific zone should be at 120 degrees
(right through Lake Tahoe) and the time zone should cover from
112.5 to 127.5 degrees west. Which is close to the actual
boundaries.

Arif Khokar

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May 16, 2005, 3:57:51 AM5/16/05
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william lynch wrote:

> The Pacific time zone is the only one that is close to the proper
> dimensions. There are 24 time zones, so each zone covers 15
> degrees. The median of the Pacific zone should be at 120 degrees
> (right through Lake Tahoe) and the time zone should cover from
> 112.5 to 127.5 degrees west. Which is close to the actual
> boundaries.

Thanks for that information. I thought (wrongly) that the western
boundry of the Pacific time zone would be at 120° W longitude.

Dick Boyd

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May 16, 2005, 4:13:30 AM5/16/05
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Random Waftings Of Bunker Blasts wrote:

Maine is talking about adopting Atlantic Time (add one hour to Eastern
Time).

Selected time zone makes a bigger difference the further north you go.
That is if you want your clocks to read anywhere near where the sun is.
Parts of Alaska on the Aluetian chain can be a whole day off. In the
winter, days are short enough as it is, so why deprive people of
natural light. In the summer, It can be light until 2 AM.

Staggered start times would make a bigger difference in energy peak
demands. Assuming the hot August afternoon can be staggered. Or the
cold February morning.

Analemma, or equation of time anyone? Analemma is the figure eight on
your globe that tells where the sun is at noon. Or whether the sun is
at its highest before or after clock noon.

Dick Boyd

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May 16, 2005, 4:13:39 AM5/16/05
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Random Waftings Of Bunker Blasts wrote:

Maine is talking about adopting Atlantic Time (add one hour to Eastern

william lynch

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May 16, 2005, 4:33:48 AM5/16/05
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Dick Boyd wrote:

This should explain it all:

http://www.analemma.com/Pages/framesPage.html

william lynch

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May 16, 2005, 4:34:41 AM5/16/05
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Arif Khokar wrote:

No prob.

Oscar Voss

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May 16, 2005, 8:08:55 AM5/16/05
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"Dick Boyd" <dick...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Selected time zone makes a bigger difference the further north you go.
> That is if you want your clocks to read anywhere near where the sun is.
> Parts of Alaska on the Aluetian chain can be a whole day off. In the
> winter, days are short enough as it is, so why deprive people of
> natural light. In the summer, It can be light until 2 AM.

But up at Alaska's latitude, the seasonal variations in daylight overwhelm
any suboptimality on which time zone is chosen. Either way, you'll have
daylight around lunchtime in the winter (except north of the Arctic Circle,
where there may be no daylight at all), and more than most people could
possibly need in the summer.

Alaska used to be split into four time zones (Pacific, Yukon, Alaska,
Bering), with a three-hour difference between Juneau and Nome. Now the
entire state is on one time zone, except for a lightly-populated part of the
Aleutians. The advantage of having about 99% of Alaska's population on the
same clock seems to count more than that for much of the state, "high noon"
(or what passes for it up there) is not real close to 12:00pm.

Comrade Mister The Duke of Yamamoto

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May 16, 2005, 9:38:02 PM5/16/05
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william lynch wrote:
>>
>> Analemma, or equation of time anyone? Analemma is the figure eight on
>> your globe that tells where the sun is at noon. Or whether the sun is
>> at its highest before or after clock noon.
>>
> This should explain it all:
>
> http://www.analemma.com/Pages/framesPage.html

For those who might have a pocket PC, Johnathan Sachs has written a
programme that does sun and moon measurements:
http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejonsachs/#Ephemeris%201.0

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