OT: 50,000 Watt AM radio stations
mrpete
high power AM radio stations. How about we start a list of all of the
50,000 watt AM stations, or someone provide a link. Let's list the
frequency and city of transmission. By the way, why do many of these
stations only have 3 character call letters? For that matter, why did they
start of the trend of Wxxx east of the Mississippi and Kxxx west of the
Mississippi?
Here are two:
WLW 700 AM from Cincinnati
WSB 750 AM from Atlanta
-Pete Jenior
Username
"mrpete" <mrp...@fuse.net> wrote in message
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Since I haven't seen anyone else respond....
660 - WFAN - New York
670 - WMAQ (?) - Chicago
710 - WOR - New York
720 - WGN - Chicago
760 - WJR - Detroit
770 - WABC - New York
780 - WBBM - Chicago
810 - WGY - Albany
820 - WBOP - Fort Worth
850 - KOA - Denver
870 - WWL - New Orleans
880 - WCBS - New York
1000 - WMVP - Chicago
1010 - WINS - New York
1020 - KDKA - Pittsburgh
1060 - KYW - Philadelphia
1100 - WTAM - Cleveland
1110 - WBT - Charlotte
1120 - KMOX - St. Louis
1200 - WOAI - San Antonio
1220 - WKNR - Cleveland
Sandor G - at OSU (waiting out a thunderstorm)
Andy Heidel
WLS 890 Chicago
WBBM 780 Chicago
KMOX 1120 St. Louis
KTRS 550 St. Louis (?)
WCBS 880 New York
WNBC 660 New York
WSB 750 Atlanta
all i can think of right now
andy
David Jensen
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840 - WHAS - Louisville
> 850 - KOA - Denver
> 870 - WWL - New Orleans
> 880 - WCBS - New York
Mark Stauter
> 670 - WMAQ (?) - Chicago
680 - WPTF - Raleigh
> 710 - WOR - New York
Mark Stauter
University of Missouri-Rolla
msta...@umr.edu
Big Nick
>A recent thread alerted me to the fact that many roadgeeks also know about
>high power AM radio stations. How about we start a list of all of the
>50,000 watt AM stations, or someone provide a link. Let's list the
>frequency and city of transmission. By the way, why do many of these
>stations only have 3 character call letters? For that matter, why did they
>start of the trend of Wxxx east of the Mississippi and Kxxx west of the
>Mississippi?
HAVE I GOT A SITE FOR YOU!
(And all other radio-crossgeeks)
http://www.ipass.net/~whitetho/3myst.htm
3-letter callsign history, K/W split history, including why KDKA is in
Pittsburgh, PA!
>Here are two:
>
>WLW 700 AM from Cincinnati
>WSB 750 AM from Atlanta
>
> -Pete Jenior
KCBS 740, "San Francisco", transmitter 2 Miles north of Novato, CA,
which is 30 or so miles NORTH of San Francisco
-NK
Jerry Koch
Another thing to consider here is whether or not the station is a "clear
station", which means that the station broadcasts at a constant wattage.
1130 WISN in Milwaukee also broadcasts at 50,000 watts, but only during the
day. At night I can't get it 40 miles outside of Milwaukee.
mrpete <mrp...@fuse.net> wrote in message
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Jeff and Lisa
> high power AM radio stations. How about we start a list of all of the
> 50,000 watt AM stations, or someone provide a link.
This is kind of depressing subject for me since I miss the good music
that used to be played on them. It was a mix songs you don't hear on FM.
This would include the late:
WNBC 660 (now WFAN), New York City
WFIL 560 (now ? religious), Philadelphia
Don Imus was good when he was on WNBC; he had the good schticks.
Not so anymore.
John Detwiler Ii
> high power AM radio stations. How about we start a list of all of the
> 50,000 watt AM stations, or someone provide a link.
OK I will. How's this:
http://www.100000watts.com
Chip's site lists all AM, FM, and TV stations nationwide. Each listing has
city of application and cities covered, a USGS map link to where it's
transmitter tower is located, station website if known, link to listen if
the station broadcasts on the Internet, how high the transmitter tower is,
broadcast strength (which also shows multiple strengths if it changes at
night), station history (change of calls, frequency, affiliation), etc.
Plus he lists regular (almost daily) updates of new stations or changes in
existing stations; there is a search feature for different parameters
(whether a certain set of call letters exist, where all the stations at
xxx.x-frequency are nationwide, as well as others); and a separate list of
HDTV station activity (whether an existing analog station has gotten the
go-ahead to add digital facilities or date the digital station will begin
airing).
Found this by accident several months ago and it's been a regular surfing
point ever since.
ARMOURER ERIC
1530 AM Sacremento CA
Kevin Burnett
wrote:
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>"Username" <user...@osu.edu> wrote in message
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>>
>> "mrpete" <mrp...@fuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:td473gd...@corp.supernews.com...
>> > A recent thread alerted me to the fact that many roadgeeks also know
>about
>> > high power AM radio stations. How about we start a list of all of the
>> > 50,000 watt AM stations, or someone provide a link. Let's list the
>> > frequency and city of transmission. By the way, why do many of these
>> > stations only have 3 character call letters? For that matter, why did
>> they
>> > start of the trend of Wxxx east of the Mississippi and Kxxx west of the
>> > Mississippi?
>> >
>> > Here are two:
>> >
>> > WLW 700 AM from Cincinnati
>> > WSB 750 AM from Atlanta
>> >
>> > -Pete Jenior
>>
>> Since I haven't seen anyone else respond....
Here are some more...
640 - KFI - Los Angeles
>> 660 - WFAN - New York
660 - KTNN - Window Rock, AZ
>> 670 - WMAQ (?) - Chicago
680 - KNBR - San Francisco
690 - CBU - Vancouver, BC
>> 710 - WOR - New York
710 - KIRO - Seattle
>> 720 - WGN - Chicago
720 - KDWN - Las Vegas
740 - KCBS - San Francisco
>> 760 - WJR - Detroit
>> 770 - WABC - New York
>> 780 - WBBM - Chicago
>> 810 - WGY - Albany
810 - KGO - San Francisco
>> 820 - WBOP - Fort Worth
>830 - WCCO - Minneapolis-St. Paul
>840 - WHAS - Louisville
>> 850 - KOA - Denver
860 - KTRB - Modesto, CA
>> 870 - WWL - New Orleans
>> 880 - WCBS - New York
>890 - WLS - Chicago
>> 1000 - WMVP - Chicago
1000 - KOMO - Seattle
>> 1010 - WINS - New York
>> 1020 - KDKA - Pittsburgh
>> 1060 - KYW - Philadelphia
>> 1100 - WTAM - Cleveland
1100 KFAX - San Francisco
>> 1110 - WBT - Charlotte
>> 1120 - KMOX - St. Louis
1130 - CKWX - Vancouver, BC
1190 - KEX - Portland, OR
>> 1200 - WOAI - San Antonio
>> 1220 - WKNR - Cleveland
>>
--
Kevin Burnett http://www.catnip.org/
Jason Hancock
>
> >> Since I haven't seen anyone else respond....
>
> Here are some more...
>
> 640 - KFI - Los Angeles
>
> >> 660 - WFAN - New York
>
> 660 - KTNN - Window Rock, AZ
>
> >> 670 - WMAQ (?) - Chicago
They're now WSCR, a sports-talk station.
> 680 - KNBR - San Francisco
> 690 - CBU - Vancouver, BC
>
> >> 710 - WOR - New York
>
> 710 - KIRO - Seattle
>
> >> 720 - WGN - Chicago
>
> 720 - KDWN - Las Vegas
> 740 - KCBS - San Francisco
>
> >> 760 - WJR - Detroit
> >> 770 - WABC - New York
> >> 780 - WBBM - Chicago
> >> 810 - WGY - Albany
>
> 810 - KGO - San Francisco
>
> >> 820 - WBOP - Fort Worth
> >830 - WCCO - Minneapolis-St. Paul
> >840 - WHAS - Louisville
> >> 850 - KOA - Denver
>
> 860 - KTRB - Modesto, CA
>
> >> 870 - WWL - New Orleans
> >> 880 - WCBS - New York
> >890 - WLS - Chicago
> >> 1000 - WMVP - Chicago
>
> 1000 - KOMO - Seattle
>
> >> 1010 - WINS - New York
> >> 1020 - KDKA - Pittsburgh
1040 - WHO - Des Moines
> >> 1060 - KYW - Philadelphia
> >> 1100 - WTAM - Cleveland
>
> 1100 KFAX - San Francisco
>
> >> 1110 - WBT - Charlotte
> >> 1120 - KMOX - St. Louis
>
> 1130 - CKWX - Vancouver, BC
> 1190 - KEX - Portland, OR
>
> >> 1200 - WOAI - San Antonio
> >> 1220 - WKNR - Cleveland
1540 - KXEL - Waterloo, IA
--Jason <http://members.nbci.com/jhancoc>
(Home of the Iowa Highways Page & Freeway Junctions of the Heartland)
SP Cook
> high power AM radio stations. How about we start a list of all of the
> 50,000 watt AM stations, or someone provide a link. Let's list the
> frequency and city of transmission. By the way, why do many of these
> stations only have 3 character call letters? For that matter, why did
they
> start of the trend of Wxxx east of the Mississippi and Kxxx west of the
> Mississippi?
>
that are 50kW and on a clear channel. There are Class B AM stations that
are not on a clear channel and do not have the semi-national range you are
referring to:
640 WFI - Los Angeles & KYUK Bethel, Alaska
650 WSM Nashville & KENY Anchorage
660 WFAN New York & KFAR Fairbanks
670 WMAQ Chicago & KDLG Dillingham, Alaska (KBOI Boise also on this Freq,
Class B)
680 KNBR San Francisco & KBRW Barrow, Alaska
700 WLW Cincinnati (THE BIG ONE) & KBYR Anchorage
710 WOR New York & KIRO Seattle
720 WGN Chicago & KOTZ Kotzebue, Alaska (KDWN Las Vegas also on this Freq,
Class B)
750 WSB Atlanta & KFQD Anchorage
760 WJR Detroit
770 WABC New York (KKOB also on this Freq, Class B)
780 WBBM Chicago & KNOM Nome (KKOH also on this Freq, Class B)
810 KGO San Francisco & WGY Schenectady, NY
820 WBAP Fort Worth & KCBF Fairbanks
830 WCCO Minneapolis
840 WHAS Louisville, KY & KABN Long Island, Alaska
850 KOA Denver & KICY Nome
870 WWL New Orleans & KSKO McGrath, Alaska
880 WCBS New York (WRVN Lexington, Nebraska also on this Freq, Class B)
890 WLS Chicago & KBBI Homer, Alaska (KDXU also on this Friq, Class B)
1000 WLUP (ESPN radio) Chicago & KOMO Seattle
1020 KDKA Pittsburgh & KAXX Eagle River, Alaska (KCKN Roswell, NM, Class B)
1030 WBZ Boston (KTWO Casper, WY, Class B)
1040 WHO Des Moines, Iowa
1060 KYW Philadelphia
1070 KNX Los Angeles
1080 WTIC Hartford, Conn, KRLD Dallas, & KASH Anchorage
1500 WTOP Washington & WSTP St. Paul
1510 WLAC Nashville & KGA Spokane
1520 WWKB Buffalo & KOMA Oklahoma City
1530 KFBK Sacramento & WCKY Cincinnati
1540 KXEL Waterloo, Iowa
1560 KNZR Bakersfield, CA & WQEW New York
SP Cook
SP Cook
John Detwiler Ii <swiss...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> OK I will. How's this:
> http://www.100000watts.com
>
> Chip's site lists all AM, FM, and TV stations nationwide. Each listing
has
> city of application and cities covered, a USGS map link to where it's
> transmitter tower is located, station website if known, link to listen if
> the station broadcasts on the Internet, how high the transmitter tower is,
> broadcast strength (which also shows multiple strengths if it changes at
> night), station history (change of calls, frequency, affiliation), etc.
>
Great road geek site (IMHO) I always print out Chip's FM listings for any
road trip I plan, and FM and TV for my destination city even if going by
air. Unfortunatly, Chip only has AM info for his home Texas region and
hasn't expanded it in a few years.
Many people have web sites that provide AM listings for their towns.
SP Cook
mrpete
50,000 watts round the clock.
-Pete
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SP Cook
SP Cook <PAC...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
OPPS, skipped a page:
1090 KAAY Little Rock & WBAL Baltimore
1100 WTAM Cleveland (KNZZ Grand Junction, CO, Class B)
1110 WBT Charlotte & KFAB Omaha
1120 KMOX St. Louis & KPNW Eugene, OR
1130 KWKH Shreveport & WNEW New York
1140 WRVA Richmond, VA
1160 KSL Salt Lake City
1170 WWVA Wheeling, West Virginia, KVOO Tulsa & KJNP North Pole, Alaska
1180 WHAM Rochester, NY (WOFI Kalispell, Montana, Class B)
1190 KEX Portland, OR
1200 WOAI San Antonio
1210 WPHT Philadelphia & KGYN Guymon, Oklahoma
BTW, this is all of the Class A stations that can ever exist in the 48
states, only Alaska has open freqs at Class A.
SP Cook
Nick Tallyn
When did WMVP go to 50000 watts?
Nick
Nick Tallyn
broadcasts from KMOX to KTRS, and I can no longer hear them out here in
Colorado. I believe I recall hearing it was 10000 watts (I think).
Nick
Leo Auray
>WLS 890 Chicago
>WBBM 780 Chicago
>KMOX 1120 St. Louis
>KTRS 550 St. Louis (?)
>WCBS 880 New York
>WNBC 660 New York
lol...not since October 1988...It's now WFAN. GE got out of the radio biz...
>WSB 750 Atlanta
>all i can think of right now
>andy
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Leo Auray
Phillipsburg, NJ
God Preserve the United States 1664
Scott Nuzum
Big Nick wrote in message <3ad231f4....@news.sonic.net>...
Yep. That's where the transmitter is. But the FCC considers the station to
be in its "City of license," no matter where anything else is.
For those who don't know, listen to the "legal ID" at the top of the hour.
That's the one which mentions the call letters and the COL. The call letters
and the COL must be mentioned in a fashion such as "KOMB, Fort Scott"
Anything may be said before the call letters or after the COL, but *nothing*
is allowed to be said *between* the two.
Legal: "You're listening to KOMB, Fort Scott, All-Hit 103.9."
Illegal: "You're listening to KOMB, All-Hit 103.9, Fort Scott."
If the radio station you listen to mentions more than one city in the legal
ID, the *first* one is the COL. The other cities are ones the station wants
to identify itself with. An example would be "KKOW, Pittsburg, Joplin." KKOW
tries to reach a Joplin audience, so it follows "Pittsburg" with "Joplin" so
that listeners will see that KKOW is a "Joplin" station, too.
KKOW's transmitter is in Weir, about 15 miles southwest of the studios. KKOW
doesn't have to mention Weir at all because it's not the COL.
Sometimes the station tries to sneak in the COL "under its breath," so to
speak. So you might hear something like "KMOQbaxterspringsJOPLIN'S POWER
107!!!!!!).
S.E.N.
TV stations have the same rules but can identify themselves audibly,
visually or both.
Michael G. Koerner
>
> 620 WTMJ, Milwaukee
>
> Another thing to consider here is whether or not the station is a "clear
> station", which means that the station broadcasts at a constant wattage.
> 1130 WISN in Milwaukee also broadcasts at 50,000 watts, but only during the
> day. At night I can't get it 40 miles outside of Milwaukee.
WTMJ and WISN both 'power down' at sunset.
WTMJ has a STRONG daytime signal into Appleton, but only an 'ok' one at
night. WISN (1130 kHz) is spotty but receivable here during the day
(due to 'blanketing' from a 'local' at 1150 kHz) and REALLY spotty at night.
I used to listen to WRVA (1140 kHz) out of Richmond, VA a lot at night
in the late 1970s, but when that local at 1150 went 24 hrs, I had to stop....
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Jim Ellwanger
"Scott Nuzum" <snu...@terraworld.net> wrote:
> For those who don't know, listen to the "legal ID" at the top of the hour.
> That's the one which mentions the call letters and the COL. The call letters
> and the COL must be mentioned in a fashion such as "KOMB, Fort Scott"
> Anything may be said before the call letters or after the COL, but *nothing*
> is allowed to be said *between* the two.
>
> Legal: "You're listening to KOMB, Fort Scott, All-Hit 103.9."
>
> Illegal: "You're listening to KOMB, All-Hit 103.9, Fort Scott."
Isn't the frequency allowed between the call letters and the city, e.g.,
"You're listening to KOMB, 103.9, Fort Scott, all hits all the time"?
--
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<http://trainman1.home.mindspring.com/> remembers the good old days.
"Light it up, Kevin!"
rg
flame-throwing 77,000 watts during the day. Okay, they get away with it
because the transmitter is in Rosarito Beach, Baja, Mexico, about 35 miles
south of the border. They claim you can hear it all the way up to Canada,
and I bet even all the way to Mexico City. Personally, I get it clear as
can be on drives up to Sacramento, Vegas, Arizona.
Hank Eisenstein
from Burlington to Danbury. I started to pick up WFAN in Rutland!
-Hank
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Hank Eisenstein
-Hank
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Joe Rouse
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KCBS is ID'd as "KCBS, San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose". And now they have
the tag, "an Infinity station". Infinity is the name for the Viacom/CBS
group of radio stations. It was the name of one of the radio groups that CBS
bought a few years ago, and they resurrected the name about a year ago,as
part of an attempt to offer stock in it.
Garrett Wollman
That would be XETRA, Tijuana, a station which lies to almost everyone
about its callsign. (But listen every night at midnight for the
Mexican National Anthem, assuming they are still required to do that.)
-GAWollman
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Patrick L. Humphrey
>620 WTMJ, Milwaukee
>Another thing to consider here is whether or not the station is a "clear
>station", which means that the station broadcasts at a constant wattage.
>1130 WISN in Milwaukee also broadcasts at 50,000 watts, but only during the
>day. At night I can't get it 40 miles outside of Milwaukee.
That's not the explanation for the omission of Houston's 740 KTRH -- it's
50,000 watts 24 hours, but it goes extremely directional after sunset.
During the day, I can pick it up loud and clear as far away as the north
side of Austin, some 170 miles away, and have DXed it 5 by 5 about ten miles
down North Padre from the causeway south of Corpus Christi, which is about
200 miles from Houston...but at night, you'll have trouble picking it up
until you're to Conroe (40 miles north of downtown), but it comes in strong
up in Bastrop County, about 30 miles southeast of Austin. (Having San
Francisco's KCBS on the same channel is a likely cause of why KTRH is
nighttime directional.)
--PLH, who won't be DXing it this coming weekend from Salt Lake City
Brian LeBlanc
> That's the one which mentions the call letters and the COL. The call
letters
> and the COL must be mentioned in a fashion such as "KOMB, Fort Scott"
> Anything may be said before the call letters or after the COL, but
*nothing*
> is allowed to be said *between* the two.
>
> Legal: "You're listening to KOMB, Fort Scott, All-Hit 103.9."
>
> Illegal: "You're listening to KOMB, All-Hit 103.9, Fort Scott."
Wouldn't "KOMB 103.9, Fort Scott" (no all-hit in between) be legal too,
since it's still a line of the required information? The radio station I
work at ID's itself as "WCPE, 89.7 FM, Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill,
NC"....that seems perfectly legal to me.
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RLDean
>which is 30 or so miles NORTH of San Francisco
>-NK
While WABC Talkradio 77 is licensed to New York City, the transmitter is in
Lodi NJ about 10 miles from midtown. It is right along side both I-80 and NJ
17. The NJ Meadowlands have quite a few transmitter site. A radio geek told
me that it's because the water boosts the signal strength higher than the
50,000 watt output but it's still within the parameters set by the FCC. During
the daytime, I can pick up WABC on my car radio quite well 150 miles from the
transmitter.
Rich Dean
Michael G. Koerner
>
> In article <td50ut6...@corp.supernews.com>,
> rg <goddfa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >What about the all sports station XTRA-AM in San Diego?
>
> That would be XETRA, Tijuana, a station which lies to almost everyone
> about its callsign. (But listen every night at midnight for the
> Mexican National Anthem, assuming they are still required to do that.)
Don't they also have to give their call sign in Spanish?
Michael G. Koerner
I can EASILY get the Chicago AM 'flamethrowers' here in Appleton (350 km
from the 'Loop') during the day. A couple even draw ratings points
here, too.
BTW, WGN's tower is along the west side of I-290 about 2 km south of the
Woodfield area (about 35 km west of their studios on the city's north
side, or 45 km northwest of DT Chicago).
Scott Nuzum
Jim Ellwanger wrote in message ...
>Isn't the frequency allowed between the call letters and the city, e.g.,
>"You're listening to KOMB, 103.9, Fort Scott, all hits all the time"?
It's a common misnomer. The frequency doesn't even have to be mentioned in a
legal ID at all. And if you do hear it in that position, it's in error. It's
not likely the FCC is going to come to town tomorrow and shut down the radio
station for it.
S.E.N.
Who listens to the "New" B-100.7, bringing up the question, how long does a
station get to call itself "New?"
Garrett Wollman
>How about we start a list of all of the 50,000 watt AM stations,
The power is only part of the equation. I can show you a 50-kW
station which just barely covers the nation's second-smallest state
(and not even that at night), and I can show you two 5-kW stations
which have monster groundwave signals reaching from Manitoba to
Oklahoma.
The most reliable indicator of a station's coverage area is its class,
because the amount of protection from interference that a station is
entitled to depends on its class. Class C stations, which transmit
on the so-called ``graveyard'' channels -- 1230, 1240, 1340, 1400,
1450, and 1490 -- have no protected nighttime service area. Class B
stations receive nighttime protection from on-channel interference to
their principal groundwave coverage area. Class A stations receive
nighttime protection to their skywave coverage area, out to a maximum
of 750 miles, and subject to some other constraints.
From the FCC's AM band plan, here are the channels, classes, and
assignments (ignoring daytimers)
530 none TIS and HAR stations only; not licensed as broadcast
540 A, B Canadian/Mexican clear channel (CBK Watrous and XEWA Monterrey)
550 B Regional
560 B Regional
570 B Regional
580 B Regional
590 B Regional
600 B Regional
610 B Regional
620 B Regional
630 B Regional
640 A, B KFI Los Angeles [A] and KYUK Bethel [A]
Secondary assignment CBN, St. John's, Nfld. [A-10kW]
650 A, B WSM Nashville [A], KENY Anchorage [A]
660 A, B WFAN New York [A], KFAR Fairbanks [A]
670 A, B WSCR Chicago [A], KDLG Dillingham [A], KBOI Boise [B]
680 A, B KNBR San Francisco [A], KBRW Barrow [A]
690 A, B CINF Montreal [A], CBU Vancouver [A], XETRA Tijuana [A]
700 A, B WLW Cincinatti [A], KBYR Anchorage [A]
710 A, B WOR New York [A], KIRO Seattle [A]
720 A, B WGN Chicago [A], KOTZ Kotzebue [A], KDWN Las Vegas [B]
730 A, B CKAC Montreal [A], XEX Mexico [A]
740 A, B CHWO Toronto [A], CBX Calgary [A]
(KCBS San Francisco [B] is not specifically assigned.)
750 A, B WSB Atlanta [A], KFQD Anchorage [A]
760 A, B WJR Detroit [A]
770 A, B WABC New York [A], KKOB (ex-KOB) Albuquerque [B]
780 A, B WBBM Chicago [A], KNOM Nome [A], KKOH Reno [B]
790 B Regional
800 A, B Mexican clear
810 A, B KGO San Francisco [A], WGY Schenectady [A]
820 A, B WBAP Fort Worth [A], KCBF Fairbanks [A]
830 A, B WCCO Minneapolis [A]
840 A, B WHAS Louisville [A], KABN Long Island [A]
850 A, B KOA Denver [A], KICY Nome [A]
(850s at Cleveland, Norfolk, and Boston are all class B)
860 A, B CJBC Toronto [A]; Mexico
870 A, B WWL New Orleans, KSKO McGrath
880 A, B WCBS New York [A], KRVN Lexington [B]
890 A, B WLS Chicago [A], KBBI Homer [A], KDXU St. George [B]
900 A, B Mexican/Canadian clear
910 B Regional
920 B Regional
930 B Regional
940 A, B XEQ Mexico, CINW Montreal
950 B Regional
960 B Regional
970 B Regional
980 B Regional
990 A, B CBW Winnipeg [A]; Mexico
1000 A, B WMVP Chicago [A], KOMO Seattle [A]
1010 A, B CBR Calgary [A], CFRB Toronto [A]; Mexico secondary
1020 A, B KDKA Pittsburgh [A], KCKN Roswell [B], KAXX Eagle River [A]
1030 A, B WBZ Boston [A], KTWO Casper [B]
1040 A, B WHO Des Moines [A]
1050 A, B Mexico/Canada; several U.S. class B stations operating
1060 A, B KYW Philadelphia [A]
1070 A, B KNX Los Angeles [A], CBA Moncton [A]
1080 A, B WTIC Hartford [A], KRLD Dallas [A], KASH Anchorage [A]
1090 A, B KAAY Little Rock [A], WBAL Baltimore [A]
1100 A, B WTAM Cleveland [A], KNZZ Grand Junction [B]
1110 A, B WBT Charlotte [A], KFAB Omaha [A]
1120 A, B KMOX St. Louis [A], KPNW Eugene [B]
1130 A, B KWKH Shreveport [A], WNEW New York [A]
(Detroit and Milwaukee are highly directional B's)
1140 A, B WRVA Richmond [A], CBI Sydney [?]
1150 B Regional
1160 A, B KSL Salt Lake City [A]
(Chicago is a secondary B)
1170 A, B KVOO Tulsa [A], WWVA Wheeling [A], KJNP North Pole [A]
1180 A, B WHAM Rochester [A], KOFI Kalispell [B]
1190 A, B KEX Portland [A]
(formerly also WOWO Fort Wayne until it was emasculated)
1200 A, B WOAI San Antonio [A]
1210 A, B WPHT Philadelphia [A], KGYN Guymon [B]
1220 A, B Mexico
1230-1490 are regional or local as noted above
1500 A, B WTOP Washington [A], KSTP St. Paul [A]
1510 A, B WLAC Nashville [A], KGA Spokane [A]
1520 A, B WWKB Buffalo [A], KOMA Oklahoma City [A]
1530 A, B KFBK Sacramento [A], WCKY Cincinatti [A]
1540 A, B ZNS1 Nassau [A], KXEL Waterloo [A]
1550 A, B CBE Windsor [A-10kW]; Mexico
1560 A, B KNZR Bakersfield [A], WQEW New York [A]
1570 A, B XERF Ciudad Acuna [A]; formerly Canada secondary
1580 A, B formerly CBJ Chicoutimi [A]; Mexico secondary
The U.S. stations listed above as class A are *all* of the U.S. class
A stations in existence, now or in the future. Generally speaking,
when two class A stations occupy the same channel -- Alaskan stations
excluded -- then they were engineered with complementary directional
patterns, so each station protects the other. When a class B station
is listed west of the Mississippi on a channel with a class A station
east of the Mississippi, the class A station was one of the former
true clear channel stations (class I-A in the old system); the western
class Bs were added in the 1960s to provide additional nighttime
service to the growing populations of the west.
Class A stations are required to operate with at least 10 kW; all
U.S. class A stations and all but three Canadian class A stations use
50 kW full-time. Class A stations in Mexico may operate with up to
250 kW, but XERF (the only station so licensed) does not do so.
Class B stations may operate with up to 50 kW. This class includes
both the old class II (50-kW secondary assignments on I-B channels)
and the old class III (5-kW primary assignments on regional
channels). Since the new classification scheme was introduced, former
class III stations have been able to apply for up to 50 kW operation
on the same channel, within the limits of allowable interference; WTMJ
Milwaukee on 620 and WWJ Detroit on 950 are two such stations.
There was a time in the 1970s when regulators contemplated allowing
the then class I-A stations to operate with up to 750 kW. The
broadcasters were mostly uninterested in this idea, even though it
would have increased their coverage radius almost fourfold, feeling
that the 50-kW stations provided adequate coverage of their intended
markets as it was. (That didn't keep engineers from attempting to
fire up 700 W8XO's old 500-kW transmitter in Mason, but they were
unable to get it into working condition. Every other transmitter ever
used at that site still works.)
Garrett Wollman
Michael G. Koerner <mgk...@dataex.com> wrote:
>RLDean wrote:
>> 17. The NJ Meadowlands have quite a few transmitter site. A radio geek told
>> me that it's because the water boosts the signal strength higher than the
>
>from the 'Loop') during the day.
In both cases, it's the ground conductivity that matters. Ground
conductivity sucks big time in the northeast, which is why the major
stations are located in swamps or on the ocean. Ground conductivity
is excellent in the midwest, and downright superb throughout Iowa and
Nebraska.
Scott Nuzum
Brian LeBlanc wrote in message <9au1cd$pij$1...@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu>...
>Wouldn't "KOMB 103.9, Fort Scott" (no all-hit in between) be legal too,
>since it's still a line of the required information? The radio station I
>work at ID's itself as "WCPE, 89.7 FM, Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill,
>NC"....that seems perfectly legal to me.
The frequency isn't required in the legal ID at all. And it's not legal in
that position. It should come before the call letters or after the city.
But, as I said in another response, the FCC probably isn't going to raid a
station if they hear it.
S.E.N.
Another twist: If there's a WCPE-FM and a WCPE-AM, you MUST say "WCPE-FM,"
but you don't have to say "WCPE-AM" (you can omit the AM).
Garrett Wollman
Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
>(Having San Francisco's KCBS on the same channel is a likely cause of
>why KTRH is nighttime directional.)
Nope. Houston (a class B station) has to protect class A stations in
Toronto and Mexico City, but not San Francisco (another class B).
IIRC, Houston predates San Francisco on that channel -- KQW (now KCBS)
was on 1010 previously. When KTRH was engineered, it probably had to
protect the entire Canadian border, according to the agreement then in
force.
Garrett Wollman
Scott Nuzum <snu...@terraworld.net> wrote:
>but you don't have to say "WCPE-AM" (you can omit the AM).
There is no such thing as ``-AM'' and such use is prohibited by the
rules (``no other insertion is permissible''). Once again, please
read section 73.1201 for the correct rule.
Garrett Wollman
Scott Nuzum <snu...@terraworld.net> wrote:
>It's a common misnomer. The frequency doesn't even have to be
>mentioned in a legal ID at all. And if you do hear it in that
>position, it's in error.
Nope. See 47 CFR 73.1201 for the correct rule. (In short, the
frequency is one of only two things *allowed* between callsign and
community of license.)
Scott Nuzum
Garrett Wollman wrote in message <9au680$2tja$4...@traf.lcs.mit.edu>...
>In article <_NwA6.3$6P3...@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
>Scott Nuzum <snu...@terraworld.net> wrote:
>
>>It's a common misnomer. The frequency doesn't even have to be
>>mentioned in a legal ID at all. And if you do hear it in that
>>position, it's in error.
>
>Nope. See 47 CFR 73.1201 for the correct rule. (In short, the
>frequency is one of only two things *allowed* between callsign and
>community of license.)
>
What's the other?
Michael G. Koerner
Is 'WTAM' what became of 'Three-Double-U-E' (WWWE)?
> 1110 A, B WBT Charlotte [A], KFAB Omaha [A]
> 1120 A, B KMOX St. Louis [A], KPNW Eugene [B]
> 1130 A, B KWKH Shreveport [A], WNEW New York [A]
> (Detroit and Milwaukee are highly directional B's)
I once saw a map of WISN's (1130 kHz, Milwaukee) nighttime coverage. It
looked like a glove, with many 'fingers' spreading out in several
different directions. Travelling on roads in an arc 100-150 km west and
northwest of Milwaukee (driving laterally to the city) will find that
station continually fading in and out at night. It is often listenable
at night here in Appleton with a decently selective receiver (owing to
the local at 1150 kHz), varying with the receiver's physical location in
the area, although it's signal often does have to 'compete' here with
WNEW for that listening 'honor'.
> 1140 A, B WRVA Richmond [A], CBI Sydney [?]
> 1150 B Regional
> 1160 A, B KSL Salt Lake City [A]
> (Chicago is a secondary B)
> 1170 A, B KVOO Tulsa [A], WWVA Wheeling [A], KJNP North Pole [A]
> 1180 A, B WHAM Rochester [A], KOFI Kalispell [B]
> 1190 A, B KEX Portland [A]
> (formerly also WOWO Fort Wayne until it was emasculated)
I always wondered what happened to WOWO. Did they decide that the cost
of running a 'Class A' wasn't worth it?
I really liked listening to them late at night during the 1970s.
> 1200 A, B WOAI San Antonio [A]
> 1210 A, B WPHT Philadelphia [A], KGYN Guymon [B]
> 1220 A, B Mexico
> 1230-1490 are regional or local as noted above
> 1500 A, B WTOP Washington [A], KSTP St. Paul [A]
> 1510 A, B WLAC Nashville [A], KGA Spokane [A]
> 1520 A, B WWKB Buffalo [A], KOMA Oklahoma City [A]
> 1530 A, B KFBK Sacramento [A], WCKY Cincinatti [A]
> 1540 A, B ZNS1 Nassau [A], KXEL Waterloo [A]
> 1550 A, B CBE Windsor [A-10kW]; Mexico
> 1560 A, B KNZR Bakersfield [A], WQEW New York [A]
> 1570 A, B XERF Ciudad Acuna [A]; formerly Canada secondary
> 1580 A, B formerly CBJ Chicoutimi [A]; Mexico secondary
>
> The U.S. stations listed above as class A are *all* of the U.S. class
> A stations in existence, now or in the future.
Question: If a 'Class A' license is ever returned to the FCC (a la
WOWO), is it 'retired'?
Second question: If so, Why? Can the license be 'transferred'?
I once read that their signal was considered the strongest of all over a
WIDE region of the USA (30+ states) when that fireball transmitter was
operating. Wasn't it used in the 'pre-FCC' days, when stations trying
to out-power each other was considered a 'normal' practice (turning the
airwaves into a truly chaotic mess in the process)?
I also remember a few years back (late 1970s?) that for a while there
was a HUGE problem with Cuba using a 'XXX-rated' transmitter to jam some
USA commercial stations, WHO (Des Moines, IA) I recall being one of
them, and that the FCC went as far as granting some stations emergency
authority to increase their power to compensate.
Tantrum 95.7 Bad Guys
<snu...@terraworld.net> said:
>What's the other?
I think the other is the name of the company or person that owns the
station.
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> In article <NRwA6.6$6P3...@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
> Scott Nuzum <snu...@terraworld.net> wrote:
> >but you don't have to say "WCPE-AM" (you can omit the AM).
>
> There is no such thing as ``-AM'' and such use is prohibited by the
> rules (``no other insertion is permissible'').
Case in point: My program director used to be the PD at WPTF, which at the
time was a dual-broadcasting station on both bands. He told us that he
remembers doing SIDs where he would say "WPTF and WPTF-FM" to be used on
both stations.
David Jensen
"Tantrum 95.7 Bad Guys" <ban...@todayslastword.org> wrote in message
news:3ad2a20a.14275362@localhost...
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 00:46:22 -0500, "Scott Nuzum"
> <snu...@terraworld.net> said:
>
> >What's the other?
>
> I think the other is the name of the company or person that owns the
> station.
Infinity is a big fan of letting us know who they are.
David Jensen
news:3ad2...@monitor.lanset.com...
>
> KCBS is ID'd as "KCBS, San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose". And now they
have
> the tag, "an Infinity station". Infinity is the name for the Viacom/CBS
> group of radio stations. It was the name of one of the radio groups that
CBS
> bought a few years ago, and they resurrected the name about a year ago,as
> part of an attempt to offer stock in it.
>
For some reason I thought that CBS had sold their radio stations to
Infinity, though I wouldn't be surprised if they were a major shareholder.
on 52nd street
>was a HUGE problem with Cuba using a 'XXX-rated' transmitter to jam some
>USA commercial stations, WHO (Des Moines, IA) I recall being one of
>them, and that the FCC went as far as granting some stations emergency
>authority to increase their power to compensate.
My question: What was Cuba's purpose in doing this?
I mean, what is in Des Moines that needs blocking...
Chris Sampang
In The SF Bay Area
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Mark Hasty
Chicago?:
|>I also remember a few years back (late 1970s?) that for a while there
|>was a HUGE problem with Cuba using a 'XXX-rated' transmitter to jam some
|>USA commercial stations, WHO (Des Moines, IA) I recall being one of
|>them, and that the FCC went as far as granting some stations emergency
|>authority to increase their power to compensate.
|
|My question: What was Cuba's purpose in doing this?
|
|I mean, what is in Des Moines that needs blocking...
Oh wow, this is a hanging curveball if I ever saw one . . .
Actually, what the Cubans were trying to block was Radio Marti, a
US-controlled anti-Castro radio station broadcasting out of the
general vicinity of South Florida. It was broadcasting on 1040 AM,
which is WHO's frequency.
--mh
-----------------------------------------------------
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" ." --Calvin Coolidge
Elkins, H.B.
>1570 A, B XERF Ciudad Acuna [A]; formerly Canada secondary
"I heard it, I heard it, I heard it on the X."
This is the station which inspired the old ZZ Top song, is it not?
There was also an XERA, I believe.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
H.B. Elkins mailto:hbel...@mis.net or mailto:HB...@aol.com
http://www.millenniumhwy.net
http://www.users.mis.net/~hbelkins
"There's no doubt he's the best race driver in the world."
--Dale Jarrett, on Dale Earnhardt (RIP 2/18/01)
Waltrip, Kentucky, Anybody but North Carolina
To reply, you gotta do what NASCAR won't -- remove the restrictor plates!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Allen Wone
in a long long time, like 10+ years or more
660AM in NY is WFAN.
In <rTpA6.233070$t67.5...@news1.rdc1.il.home.com> "Andy Heidel" <lvegaNO...@home.com> writes:
>WLS 890 Chicago
>WBBM 780 Chicago
>KMOX 1120 St. Louis
>KTRS 550 St. Louis (?)
>WCBS 880 New York
>WNBC 660 New York
>WSB 750 Atlanta
>all i can think of right now
>andy
Elkins, H.B.
>WLW 700 AM from Cincinnati
>WSB 750 AM from Atlanta
I think these are also clear channel stations -- not Clear Channel
Communications, although WLW qualifies, but there are no other
stations operating on that frequency so they come through loud and
clear at night.
WHAS 840 in Louisville is one. So too is the station in Nashville
which carries the Grand Ole Opry.
Chicago has a clear channel station, as well.
Don Hagstrom
says...
>
>>I also remember a few years back (late 1970s?) that for a while there
>>was a HUGE problem with Cuba using a 'XXX-rated' transmitter to jam some
>>USA commercial stations, WHO (Des Moines, IA) I recall being one of
>>them, and that the FCC went as far as granting some stations emergency
>>authority to increase their power to compensate.
>
>My question: What was Cuba's purpose in doing this?
The communists never need a purpose, only disruption.
>
>I mean, what is in Des Moines that needs blocking...
>
>
>Chris Sampang
>In The SF Bay Area
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>
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Jim Ellwanger wrote:
>
> In article <mNtA6.229$6v3....@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
> "Scott Nuzum" <snu...@terraworld.net> wrote:
>
> > For those who don't know, listen to the "legal ID" at the top of the hour.
> > That's the one which mentions the call letters and the COL. The call letters
> > and the COL must be mentioned in a fashion such as "KOMB, Fort Scott"
> > Anything may be said before the call letters or after the COL, but *nothing*
> > is allowed to be said *between* the two.
> >
> > Legal: "You're listening to KOMB, Fort Scott, All-Hit 103.9."
> >
> > Illegal: "You're listening to KOMB, All-Hit 103.9, Fort Scott."
>
> Isn't the frequency allowed between the call letters and the city, e.g.,
> "You're listening to KOMB, 103.9, Fort Scott, all hits all the time"?
>
Yes, and the name of the company that owns it is, as well.
J.P. Kirby, from a country with no legal ID laws at all
Michael King
directional signal == If memory serves me correctly, it was a north-south,
or perhaps a northeast-southwest radial.
M
"Nick Tallyn" <nta...@pcisys.net> wrote in message
news:3AD26146...@pcisys.net...
> Yes, 670 is WMAQ - Chicago.
>
> When did WMVP go to 50000 watts?
>
> Nick
>
> Username wrote:
>
> > "mrpete" <mrp...@fuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:td473gd...@corp.supernews.com...
> > > A recent thread alerted me to the fact that many roadgeeks also know
about
> > > high power AM radio stations. How about we start a list of all of the
> > > 50,000 watt AM stations, or someone provide a link. Let's list the
> > > frequency and city of transmission. By the way, why do many of these
> > > stations only have 3 character call letters? For that matter, why did
> > they
> > > start of the trend of Wxxx east of the Mississippi and Kxxx west of
the
> > > Mississippi?
> > >
> > > Here are two:
> > >
> > > WLW 700 AM from Cincinnati
> > > WSB 750 AM from Atlanta
> > >
> > > -Pete Jenior
> >
> > Since I haven't seen anyone else respond....
> > 660 - WFAN - New York
> > 670 - WMAQ (?) - Chicago
> > 710 - WOR - New York
> > 720 - WGN - Chicago
> > 760 - WJR - Detroit
> > 770 - WABC - New York
> > 780 - WBBM - Chicago
> > 810 - WGY - Albany
> > 820 - WBOP - Fort Worth
> > 850 - KOA - Denver
> > 870 - WWL - New Orleans
> > 880 - WCBS - New York
> > 1000 - WMVP - Chicago
> > 1010 - WINS - New York
> > 1020 - KDKA - Pittsburgh
> > 1060 - KYW - Philadelphia
> > 1100 - WTAM - Cleveland
> > 1110 - WBT - Charlotte
> > 1120 - KMOX - St. Louis
> > 1200 - WOAI - San Antonio
> > 1220 - WKNR - Cleveland
> >
> > Sandor G - at OSU (waiting out a thunderstorm)
>
pkirby
Scott Nuzum wrote:
>
> Jim Ellwanger wrote in message ...
> >Isn't the frequency allowed between the call letters and the city, e.g.,
> >"You're listening to KOMB, 103.9, Fort Scott, all hits all the time"?
>
> It's a common misnomer. The frequency doesn't even have to be mentioned in a
> legal ID at all. And if you do hear it in that position, it's in error. It's
> not likely the FCC is going to come to town tomorrow and shut down the radio
> station for it.
Actually, as I stated in another post, an insertion of the frequency is
allowable.
>
> S.E.N.
> Who listens to the "New" B-100.7, bringing up the question, how long does a
> station get to call itself "New?"
Six years plus. :) (CKVR-TV 3 Barrie, Ontario, aka "The New VR". Not to
mention the other stations in the "NewNet" across Ontario and BC.)
J.P. Kirby
Michael King
transmitter in Mason, OH) --
When they fired it up, any birds within the array fell out of the sky, and
you could hear the thing on fence posts and teeth miles away. Any birds who
were flying toward the towers would automatically turn around because of all
the power as well.
M
"Michael G. Koerner" <mgk...@dataex.com> wrote in message
news:3AD2B0BD...@dataex.com...
Tantrum 95.7 Bad Guys
<mgk...@dataex.com> said:
>I always wondered what happened to WOWO. Did they decide that the cost
>of running a 'Class A' wasn't worth it?
Newty allowed some big station in New York to buy WOWO so it could
upgrade its own power. Around the same time, some other big station in
New York was allowed to buy a station in Little Rock and take it off the
air completely.
BOB!!
That would be the name of the licensee.
Regards,
BOB!!
Tantrum 95.7 Bad Guys
(Elkins, H.B.) said:
>Chicago has a clear channel station, as well.
Chicago has about 3 or 4 clear channels. One of them is WLS, which was
top 40 up until about 1987. They were probably the last remaining "big"
top 40 station on the AM band in the U.S., although they had a very
restrictive playlist.
Mark Roberts
| Patrick L. Humphrey <pat...@io.com> wrote:
|
| >(Having San Francisco's KCBS on the same channel is a likely cause of
| >why KTRH is nighttime directional.)
KTRH is directional daytime *and* nighttime, as is KCBS.
| Nope. Houston (a class B station) has to protect class A stations in
| Toronto and Mexico City, but not San Francisco (another class B).
| IIRC, Houston predates San Francisco on that channel -- KQW (now KCBS)
| was on 1010 previously.
Yes, KTRH moved in 1942 and KQW moved in the late 1940s.
| When KTRH was engineered, it probably had to
| protect the entire Canadian border, according to the agreement then in
| force.
Exactly. KRMG and a station in Texarkana were squeezed in as well.
--
Mark Roberts | "The doctor is in the deep junlge"
Oakland, Cal. | -- above-the-fold headline in the San Francisco Examiner,
| March 9, 2001.
=== member of the KTRH Alumni Association ====
Mark Roberts
| Not as far as I know on KTRS.
KTRS is 5,000 watts, but gets better daytime coverage with those
watts than KMOX does with 50-thousand.
Garrett Wollman
David Jensen <da...@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
>For some reason I thought that CBS had sold their radio stations to
>Infinity, though I wouldn't be surprised if they were a major shareholder.
Infinity is the ``out-of-home advertising'' division of Viacom (CBS's
former-subsidiary-cum-parent). In addition to radio, Infinity is also
one of the country's largest billboard and streetscape advertising
companies. (Many large radio groups also own billboards, not just
Infinity.) The corporate history goes something like this:
In the 1970s, the FCC's ``Financial Interest in Syndication'' or
``Fin-Syn'' rules came into effect, requiring CBS to spin off its
program-production business, which it did under then name Viacom.
In the 1980s, Gulf+Western changed its name to Paramount
Communications and was involved in a number of merger deals.
Meanwhile, Mel Karmazin was amassing a group of large-market radio
stations under the Infinity name. GE bought the remaining share in
RCA that it didn't already own and threw away the radio operation.
The AMs ended up in the hands of Emmis and Westinghouse. The radio
network ended up in the hands of Infinity sister company Westwood One.
In the 1990s, Paramount merged into Viacom. With the advent of
duopoly, Infinity bought a number of smaller groups to add to its
large-market operations. Westinghouse Electric then bought CBS
Inc. and changed its name to CBS Corp; the former CBS Inc. became CBS
Worldwide Inc. Subsequent to the Local Radio Destruction Act of 1996
[1], CBS bought Infinity,[2] and later American Radio Systems. Then CBS
sold to the public a minority interest in a newly-reconstituted
Infinity consisting of all the radio stations and the outdoor
advertising business. Last year, Viacom bought CBS. Finally, Viacom
repurchased the stake in Infinity that it had sold to the public.
-GAWollman
[1] Also known as the Telecommunications Act of 1996.
[2] Thereby bringing three of the old-line radio networks into the
clutches of Mel Karmazin: CBS, Mutual, and NBC. The Mutual and NBC
names have since been phased out, and their shared newsroom
eliminated.
Scott Scudder
What call letters are out there that stand or stood for something, like a
station's
original owner
WLS in Chicago, Sears- "World's Largest Store"
WSM Nashville - "We Serve? Millions"
Paul Anderson
Thanks for stepping in on this topic and keeping the Road people as
well-informed as the Radio people!
Paul
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Compaq Computer Corporation
Garrett Wollman
Sort of. WTAM was the original callsign. Then (as a result of some
then-illegal maneuvering by NBC) it became KYW. When NBC lost the
resulting court battle it became WKYC (as the TV still is). WWWE came
later, and now it's back to WTAM again.
>> 1130 A, B KWKH Shreveport [A], WNEW New York [A]
[Note that the FCC's listing shows an outdated callsign for NYC --
It's now WBBR, Bloomberg Business Radio.]
>I always wondered what happened to WOWO. Did they decide that the cost
>of running a 'Class A' wasn't worth it?
No, WOWO was bought by a company from New York in order to allow the
New York class-D station to convert to class-B status.
>Question: If a 'Class A' license is ever returned to the FCC (a la
>WOWO), is it 'retired'?
Once relinquished, any priority a station has is gone for good. This
holds true for stations which are upgrading as well as downgrading --
when WWJ upgraded to 50 kW, it went from having the highest priority
among nearby stations on its channel (because it was there first) to
having the lowest (in the upgrade it had to protect all those stations
which formerly protected it).
>Second question: If so, Why? Can the license be 'transferred'?
Certainly it can. However, the locations of class A stations are set
by international treaty, so the 1190 in New York could never become a
class A station. WOWO was downgraded to 9.8 kW at night specifically
to ensure that it lost its class-A status. (Many believe that WOWO
could have been engineered to remain a class-A while still allowing
night service for WLIB, but the owners chose not to do so.)
[Referring to WLW's superpower incarnation, W8XO:]
>operating. Wasn't it used in the 'pre-FCC' days, when stations trying
No. See <http://www.ominous-valve.com/wlw.html> for more details on
the history of WLW and its 500-kW transmitter. The short answer is
that work on the mighty RCA/GE/Westinghouse transmitter began under
the supervision of the Federal Radio Commission, and was completed
subsequent to the Communications Act of 1932, which abolished the FRC
and created the FCC.
>I also remember a few years back (late 1970s?) that for a while there
>was a HUGE problem with Cuba using a 'XXX-rated' transmitter to jam some
>USA commercial stations
Still is, and they still do it. Mostly the stations Fidel jams these
days are the Spanish-language Miami stations, and sometimes other
commercial stations, as well as Radio Marti on 1180 from Marathon Key.
-GAWollman
mrpete
"Leo Auray" <laura...@aol.compost.bin> wrote in message
news:20010409212559...@ng-cv1.aol.com...
> Andy Heidel wrote:
>
> >WLS 890 Chicago
> >WBBM 780 Chicago
> >KMOX 1120 St. Louis
> >KTRS 550 St. Louis (?)
> >WCBS 880 New York
> >WNBC 660 New York
>
biz...
sounds like a stupid move. Take a name like NBC that everyone recognizes
and change it into fan.
_Pete Jenior
>
>
> >WSB 750 Atlanta
> >all i can think of right now
> >andy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Leo Auray
> Phillipsburg, NJ
>
> God Preserve the United States 1664
mrpete
have
> the tag, "an Infinity station". Infinity is the name for the Viacom/CBS
> group of radio stations. It was the name of one of the radio groups that
CBS
> bought a few years ago, and they resurrected the name about a year ago,as
> part of an attempt to offer stock in it.
>
Los Angeles.
-Pete Jenior
mrpete
have guessed that channel was so powerful.
-Pete Jenior
> > Here is the US definitive list of Class A AM stations. That is stations
> > that are 50kW and on a clear channel. There are Class B AM stations
> that
> > are not on a clear channel and do not have the semi-national range you
are
> > referring to:
> >
> > 640 WFI - Los Angeles & KYUK Bethel, Alaska
> > 650 WSM Nashville & KENY Anchorage
> > 660 WFAN New York & KFAR Fairbanks
> > 670 WMAQ Chicago & KDLG Dillingham, Alaska (KBOI Boise also on this
Freq,
> > Class B)
> > 680 KNBR San Francisco & KBRW Barrow, Alaska
> > 700 WLW Cincinnati (THE BIG ONE) & KBYR Anchorage
> > 710 WOR New York & KIRO Seattle
> > 720 WGN Chicago & KOTZ Kotzebue, Alaska (KDWN Las Vegas also on this
Freq,
> > Class B)
> > 750 WSB Atlanta & KFQD Anchorage
> > 760 WJR Detroit
> > 770 WABC New York (KKOB also on this Freq, Class B)
> > 780 WBBM Chicago & KNOM Nome (KKOH also on this Freq, Class B)
> > 810 KGO San Francisco & WGY Schenectady, NY
> > 820 WBAP Fort Worth & KCBF Fairbanks
> > 830 WCCO Minneapolis
> > 840 WHAS Louisville, KY & KABN Long Island, Alaska
> > 850 KOA Denver & KICY Nome
> > 870 WWL New Orleans & KSKO McGrath, Alaska
> > 880 WCBS New York (WRVN Lexington, Nebraska also on this Freq, Class B)
> > 890 WLS Chicago & KBBI Homer, Alaska (KDXU also on this Friq, Class B)
> > 1000 WLUP (ESPN radio) Chicago & KOMO Seattle
> > 1020 KDKA Pittsburgh & KAXX Eagle River, Alaska (KCKN Roswell, NM, Class
> B)
> > 1030 WBZ Boston (KTWO Casper, WY, Class B)
> > 1040 WHO Des Moines, Iowa
> > 1060 KYW Philadelphia
> > 1070 KNX Los Angeles
> > 1080 WTIC Hartford, Conn, KRLD Dallas, & KASH Anchorage
> > 1500 WTOP Washington & WSTP St. Paul
> > 1510 WLAC Nashville & KGA Spokane
> > 1520 WWKB Buffalo & KOMA Oklahoma City
> > 1530 KFBK Sacramento & WCKY Cincinnati
> > 1540 KXEL Waterloo, Iowa
> > 1560 KNZR Bakersfield, CA & WQEW New York
>
>
> OPPS, skipped a page:
>
> 1090 KAAY Little Rock & WBAL Baltimore
> 1100 WTAM Cleveland (KNZZ Grand Junction, CO, Class B)
> 1110 WBT Charlotte & KFAB Omaha
> 1120 KMOX St. Louis & KPNW Eugene, OR
> 1130 KWKH Shreveport & WNEW New York
> 1140 WRVA Richmond, VA
> 1160 KSL Salt Lake City
> 1170 WWVA Wheeling, West Virginia, KVOO Tulsa & KJNP North Pole, Alaska
> 1180 WHAM Rochester, NY (WOFI Kalispell, Montana, Class B)
> 1190 KEX Portland, OR
> 1200 WOAI San Antonio
> 1210 WPHT Philadelphia & KGYN Guymon, Oklahoma
>
> BTW, this is all of the Class A stations that can ever exist in the 48
> states, only Alaska has open freqs at Class A.
>
> SP Cook
>
>
>
>
Scott Nuzum
Scott Scudder wrote in message <3AD3383D...@hotmail.com>...
>How about expanding on the thread, all this talk about call letters.
>
>What call letters are out there that stand or stood for something, like a
>station's
>original owner
>
>WLS in Chicago, Sears- "World's Largest Store"
>WSM Nashville - "We Serve? Millions"
KFH, Wichita = Kansas' Finest Hotel.
WGN = World's Greatest Newspaper (?)
mrpete
Alaska! By the way, are Hawaiian stations not on this list?
mrpete
> > the then class I-A stations to operate with up to 750 kW. The
> > broadcasters were mostly uninterested in this idea, even though it
> > would have increased their coverage radius almost fourfold, feeling
> > that the 50-kW stations provided adequate coverage of their intended
> > markets as it was. (That didn't keep engineers from attempting to
> > fire up 700 W8XO's old 500-kW transmitter in Mason, but they were
> > unable to get it into working condition. Every other transmitter ever
> > used at that site still works.)
>
> I once read that their signal was considered the strongest of all over a
> WIDE region of the USA (30+ states) when that fireball transmitter was
> airwaves into a truly chaotic mess in the process)?
>
walking past metal downspouts. I've also read that they used to broadcast
Spanish programming at night for the Latin America audience.
-Pete Jenior
Garrett Wollman
>I guess it is possible to get plenty of AM no matter where you are in
>Alaska!
Nope. Propagation conditions are terrible at the high latitudes;
that's why they ended up licensing so many high-power stations there
to begin with -- they couldn't interfere with much of anything if they
tried.
mrpete
"Elkins, H.B." <hbel...@restrictorplates.mis.net> wrote in message
news:3ad30af4...@news.newsguy.com...
> "mrpete" <mrp...@fuse.net> wrote:
>
> >WLW 700 AM from Cincinnati
> >WSB 750 AM from Atlanta
>
> I think these are also clear channel stations -- not Clear Channel
> Communications, although WLW qualifies, but there are no other
> stations operating on that frequency so they come through loud and
> clear at night.
True, true, although there is a Spanish station on 750 AM in Chicago. It
may only be broadcast during the day, but I have a suspicion that it is
responsible for the trouble I've had getting WSB (and the Braves games they
carry) in Chicago.
-Pete Jenior
>
> WHAS 840 in Louisville is one. So too is the station in Nashville
> which carries the Grand Ole Opry.
Last year I picked up the Indy 500 on 840 all of the way down by the
Cumberland Gap during the day.
-Pete Jenior
David Jensen
No surprise. When radio arose, the SF Bay area was more important than LA.
The original West Coast TV flagship O&Os were all LA however.
SP Cook
> I guess it is possible to get plenty of AM no matter where you are in
> Alaska! By the way, are Hawaiian stations not on this list?
> -Pete Jenior
What purpose would a 50kW station serve in Hawaii? You would be sending
signal to miles and miles of open water. Other than the occasional ship, no
one would ever hear it.
SP Cook
SP Cook
mrpete <mrp...@fuse.net> wrote in message
> > I once read that their signal was considered the strongest of all over a
> > WIDE region of the USA (30+ states) when that fireball transmitter was
> > operating. Wasn't it used in the 'pre-FCC' days, when stations trying
> > to out-power each other was considered a 'normal' practice (turning the
> > airwaves into a truly chaotic mess in the process)?
> >
> I've heard that, near the transmitter, people could hear the station when
> walking past metal downspouts. I've also read that they used to broadcast
> Spanish programming at night for the Latin America audience.
> -
The guy that did PBS' over-rated documentaries on Baseball and Jazz, did one
one WLW's superpower before he became famous. Quite good.
SP Cook
SP Cook
Scott Scudder <s...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> How about expanding on the thread, all this talk about call letters.
>
> What call letters are out there that stand or stood for something, like a
> station's
> original owner
>
> WLS in Chicago, Sears- "World's Largest Store"
> WSM Nashville - "We Serve? Millions"
>
WSM is We Shield Millions. It belonged to an insurance company.
SP Cook
on 52nd street
>biz...
>
>sounds like a stupid move. Take a name like NBC that everyone recognizes
>and change it into fan.
> _Pete Jenior
NBC, the trademark, is owned by GE; therefore that callsign had to go; the
"FAN" is because the current ownership has made this a sports talk station.
Chris Sampang
In The SF Bay Area
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"Garrett Wollman" <wol...@lcs.mit.edu> wrote in message
news:9avs5e$aoo$1...@traf.lcs.mit.edu...
> In article <td6sh91...@corp.supernews.com>, mrpete <mrp...@fuse.net>
wrote:
> >I guess it is possible to get plenty of AM no matter where you are in
> >Alaska!
>
> Nope. Propagation conditions are terrible at the high latitudes;
> that's why they ended up licensing so many high-power stations there
> to begin with -- they couldn't interfere with much of anything if they
> tried.
So a 50,000 Watt AM station in Alaska wouldn't go very far at night?
-Pete Jenior
> -GAWollman
mrpete
"SP Cook" <PAC...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:9avvoi$ruk$1...@newssvr06-en0.news.prodigy.com...
It could be used to get to all of the other islands during the day (they are
rather far apart, you know).
-Pete Jenior
>
> SP Cook
>
>
>
Peter Rosa
Scott Scudder wrote:
> How about expanding on the thread, all this talk about call letters.
>
> What call letters are out there that stand or stood for something, like a
> station's
> original owner
>
> WLS in Chicago, Sears- "World's Largest Store"
> WSM Nashville - "We Serve? Millions"
WSM = We Secure Millions (it was/is owned by an insurance company).
Two of the most "meaningful" call letters are WARE and WACO, stations located
in Ware, Massachusetts and Waco, Texas.
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Mike St.
"Scott Nuzum" <snu...@terraworld.net> wrote in message
news:_NwA6.3$6P3...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> S.E.N.
> Who listens to the "New" B-100.7, bringing up the question, how long does
a
> station get to call itself "New?"
If it refers to the music, as long as they want!
-Mike St.
See 103.7 KISS FM!
Leo Auray
>Interesting that this comes up...On my way home from Montreal, I took US7
>from Burlington to Danbury. I started to pick up WFAN in Rutland!
I could always pull in my Mets games while camping in New Hampshire and
Maine...I've pulled in WFAN as far away as the tip of the Gaspesie...and, by
some fluke of nature, in Alabama...
rg
news:3AD29692...@dataex.com...
> Don't they also have to give their call sign in Spanish?
>
They do their station identification first in correct Spanish
pronounciation:
"X-E-T-R-A-A-M Rosarito, Baja California, Mexico"
Then in English something like:
"X-T-R-A, the mighty 690"
Now that I think about it Mr. Wollman is right about the real call letters
being XETRA because in the Spanish id, they do indeed say the 'E'
Mike St.
> How about expanding on the thread, all this talk about call letters.
>
> What call letters are out there that stand or stood for something, like a
> station's
> original owner
>
> WLS in Chicago, Sears- "World's Largest Store"
> WSM Nashville - "We Serve? Millions"
>
WMAQ Chicago - We Must Ask Questions
WTMJ Milwaukee - The Milwaukee Journal
WBWI West Bend, WI - West Bend, Wisconsin (A bit of a stretch...)
WPSD Paducah, KY - Paducah Sun-Democratic
--
-Mike St. | West Bend, WI | Taking a trip soon, will report!
Leo Auray
>
>
>>> lol...not since October 1988...It's now WFAN. GE got out of the radio
>>biz...
>>
>>sounds like a stupid move. Take a name like NBC that everyone recognizes
>>and change it into fan.
>> _Pete Jenior
>
>NBC, the trademark, is owned by GE; therefore that callsign had to go; the
>"FAN" is because the current ownership has made this a sports talk station.
ISTR that it was mentioned on the last day of WNBC's broadcasting that GE did
not 'protect' the call sign WNBC...that it could be reassigned by the FCC to
any station east of the Mississippi. There were a few humorous references to
"WNBC, Podunk, Arkansas"...
Andy Heidel
andy
Allen Wone wrote in message <9av4o1$imm$1...@panix6.panix.com>...
>WNBC 660?? What list are you pulling from?? 660AM in NY hasnt been WNBC
>in a long long time, like 10+ years or more
>
>660AM in NY is WFAN.
>In <rTpA6.233070$t67.5...@news1.rdc1.il.home.com> "Andy Heidel"
<lvegaNO...@home.com> writes:
>
>
>>WLS 890 Chicago
>>WBBM 780 Chicago
>>KMOX 1120 St. Louis
>>KTRS 550 St. Louis (?)
>>WCBS 880 New York
>>WNBC 660 New York
Hank Eisenstein
letters I ever heard (it's the only country station) are for WYNY. I don't
know the other 3.
WYNY used to be on 97.1, now WQHT, which was at 103.5 (frequency swap).
WYNY went away and became the revived WKTU; it later returned on 107.1
-Hank
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"Brian LeBlanc" <br...@gribblenation.com> wrote in message
news:9au6ld$4g$1...@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu...> news:9au6a0$2tja$5...@traf.lcs.mit.edu...
> > In article <NRwA6.6$6P3...@newsfeed.slurp.net>,
> > Scott Nuzum <snu...@terraworld.net> wrote:
> > >but you don't have to say "WCPE-AM" (you can omit the AM).
> >
> > There is no such thing as ``-AM'' and such use is prohibited by the
> > rules (``no other insertion is permissible'').
>
> Case in point: My program director used to be the PD at WPTF, which at the
> time was a dual-broadcasting station on both bands. He told us that he
> remembers doing SIDs where he would say "WPTF and WPTF-FM" to be used on
> both stations.
>
> --
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>
>
Jason Hancock
>
> > What call letters are out there that stand or stood for something, like a
> > station's
> > original owner
> >
> > WLS in Chicago, Sears- "World's Largest Store"
> > WSM Nashville - "We Serve? Millions"
>
> WMAQ Chicago - We Must Ask Questions
> WTMJ Milwaukee - The Milwaukee Journal
> WBWI West Bend, WI - West Bend, Wisconsin (A bit of a stretch...)
> WPSD Paducah, KY - Paducah Sun-Democratic
Newspapers:
KCRG Cedar Rapids - Cedar Rapids Gazette
KDTH Dubuque - Dubuque Telegraph-Herald
KRNT Des Moines - Register aNd Tribune
Others:
KUNI Cedar Falls - University of Northern Iowa
WOC Davenport - World Of Chiropractic (the station was founded by B.J.
Palmer, who also started Palmer College of Chiropractic)
WHBF Rock Island, IL - Where Historical Blackhawk Fought
WSUI (AM) and KSUI-FM Iowa City - State University of Iowa (the "State"
was eventually dropped from the UI's name)
--Jason <http://members.nbci.com/jhancoc>
(Home of the Iowa Highways Page & Freeway Junctions of the Heartland)
Mark Hasty
Chicago?:
|"Mike St." wrote:
|>
|> > What call letters are out there that stand or stood for something, like a
|> > station's
|> > original owner
|> >
|> > WLS in Chicago, Sears- "World's Largest Store"
|> > WSM Nashville - "We Serve? Millions"
|>
|> WMAQ Chicago - We Must Ask Questions
|> WTMJ Milwaukee - The Milwaukee Journal
|> WBWI West Bend, WI - West Bend, Wisconsin (A bit of a stretch...)
|> WPSD Paducah, KY - Paducah Sun-Democratic
|
|Newspapers:
|KCRG Cedar Rapids - Cedar Rapids Gazette
|KDTH Dubuque - Dubuque Telegraph-Herald
|KRNT Des Moines - Register aNd Tribune
|
|Others:
|KUNI Cedar Falls - University of Northern Iowa
|WOC Davenport - World Of Chiropractic (the station was founded by B.J.
|Palmer, who also started Palmer College of Chiropractic)
|WHBF Rock Island, IL - Where Historical Blackhawk Fought
|WSUI (AM) and KSUI-FM Iowa City - State University of Iowa (the "State"
|was eventually dropped from the UI's name)
Also:
WCCO Minneapolis - Washburn Crosby Company (predecessor of General
Mills)
KFAB Omaha - For A Buick (was originally run by Nebraska Buick
dealers)
KGLO Mason City, IA - Mason City Globe newspaper
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Scott Nuzum
Mike St. wrote in message ...
>
>"Scott Nuzum" <snu...@terraworld.net> wrote in message
>news:_NwA6.3$6P3...@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>> S.E.N.
>> Who listens to the "New" B-100.7, bringing up the question, how long does
>a
>> station get to call itself "New?"
>
>If it refers to the music, as long as they want!
Then they need to stop playing Nu Shooz. Every day. Twice.
S.E.N.
Unless it's supposed to be the "Nu" B-100.7.
Jim Ellwanger
laura...@aol.compost.bin (Leo Auray) wrote:
> ISTR that it was mentioned on the last day of WNBC's broadcasting that GE did
> not 'protect' the call sign WNBC...that it could be reassigned by the FCC to
> any station east of the Mississippi. There were a few humorous references to
> "WNBC, Podunk, Arkansas"...
I believe NBC would still have to give their approval for a radio
station not owned by them to use the WNBC call letters.
Of course, back in the old days, AMs, FMs, and/or TVs had to be in the
same city and owned by the same company in order to have the same call
letters, which led to such call letter situations as KNXT(TV) in Los
Angeles (since KCBS radio is in San Francisco, where CBS didn't own a TV
station).
I know there are/have been cases where different companies owned
stations with the same call letters in the same city (the first current
example that comes to my mind is Clear Channel's WFLA(AM) and Media
General's WFLA-TV in Tampa, although the "classic" case is Chicago's
WMAQs), but I don't know if there actually are any examples of same call
letters, different company, different city.
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Richard Ray
snu...@terraworld.net wrote on 4/10/01 3:49 PM:
WSB Atlanta "Welcome South, Brother!"
Hobby Trucker
> A recent thread alerted me to the fact that many roadgeeks also know about
> high power AM radio stations. How about we start a list of all of the
> 50,000 watt AM stations, or someone provide a link. Let's list the
> frequency and city of transmission. By the way, why do many of these
> stations only have 3 character call letters? For that matter, why did
they
> start of the trend of Wxxx east of the Mississippi and Kxxx west of the
> Mississippi?
Ain't nothing like a good search engine!!!!
http://www.northpine.com/broadcast/50kwam.html
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Jim Ellwanger <trai...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>WMAQs), but I don't know if there actually are any examples of same call
>letters, different company, different city.
Lots and lots -- but I can't name any off the top of my head right
now. The rule is that whichever owner has had the ``base call'' for
the longest continuous period must agree to any other assignments.
Mike Petrucci
I live IN Danbury... I get it decent, but not great! I have, however, gotten
the signal really well in the Capital district of New York!! Ironic that
Albany is twice as far from NYC as Danbury is (if not, longer)... it's
definately strange!!! Must be the mountains... or the New York Thruway!! LOL
-M I K E>
Garrett Wollman
Hank Eisenstein <ni...@quuxuum.org> wrote:
>letters I ever heard (it's the only country station) are for WYNY. I don't
>know the other 3.
WYNY Briarcliff Manor (formerly WWXY, WRGX, WXPS, and WZFM)
WWXY Hampton Bays (formerly WWHB)
WWYY Belvidere (formerly WRNJ-FM)
WWZY Long Branch (formerly WZVU, WMJY, and WWUU)
All four are owned by Big City Radio (NYSE: YFM).
>WYNY used to be on 97.1, now WQHT, which was at 103.5 (frequency swap).
>WYNY went away and became the revived WKTU; it later returned on 107.1
WYNY was one of the NBC stations trashed by General Electric. It
(along with all of the NBC FM O&Os) was sold to Emmis, which already
owned WQHT (103.5 Lake Success); as this predated the revival of
duopoly, Emmis had to get rid of one of the two. They decided that
the urban hit radio format on WQHT was more remunerative, so they
moved Hot 103.5 to 97.1 and sold off the Lake Success signal along
with the old WYNY programming. (103.5 transmits from WTC whereas 97.1
is on Empire; the Empire FM signals are widely believed superior.)
The ownership trail for 103.5 is too complicated for me to trace here.
Garrett Wollman
>So a 50,000 Watt AM station in Alaska wouldn't go very far at night?
There is next-to-no skywave in Alaska, owing to the same geomagnetic
conditions that cause the aurora borealis to be visible so often
there. That's true of anywhere near either pole.
Nick Tallyn
Nick
Mark Roberts wrote:
> Nick Tallyn <nta...@pcisys.net> had written:
> | Not as far as I know on KTRS.
>
> KTRS is 5,000 watts, but gets better daytime coverage with those
> watts than KMOX does with 50-thousand.
>
> --
> Mark Roberts | "The doctor is in the deep junlge"
> Oakland, Cal. | -- above-the-fold headline in the San Francisco Examiner,
> | March 9, 2001.
Chris Saylor
I somehow got in an FM station during the middle of the day called
"93.7 The Mix, Acadiana's Hottest Music", from Lafayette, Louisiana.
The wierd thing was i got this in WESTERN MARYLAND!!! I got it for
about 30 mins before it suddenly went away. I was just using my clock
radio w/o a digital tuner. I know there were thunderstorms around,
but can anyone explain why I got an FM station during the middle of
the day from a station 1000 miles away? I swear I am not making this
up. What is the furthest away any of you have gotten an FM station?
~Chris Saylor
Blacksburg, VA
Hagerstown, MD
Tantrum 95.7 Bad Guys
>alright, this may sound like I'm making this up, but about 5 years ago
>I somehow got in an FM station during the middle of the day called
>"93.7 The Mix, Acadiana's Hottest Music", from Lafayette, Louisiana.
>The wierd thing was i got this in WESTERN MARYLAND!!! I got it for
>about 30 mins before it suddenly went away. I was just using my clock
>radio w/o a digital tuner. I know there were thunderstorms around,
>but can anyone explain why I got an FM station during the middle of
>the day from a station 1000 miles away? I swear I am not making this
>up. What is the furthest away any of you have gotten an FM station?
I once received WHOP-FM of Hopkinsville, Kentucky, in western Texas.
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