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ze...@magicnet.net

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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I remember the old maps in the 60s of Pittsburgh that had the proposed
Interstate that eventually was built and called the present I-279. The
proposed name was different back then...I remember 2 numbers actually...it
was going to be part of I-79, then I-276 if my memory is correct. Anyone
with details about this, please share.

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GeneJYao

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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ze...@magicnet.net wrote:

>I remember the old maps in the 60s of Pittsburgh that had the proposed
>Interstate that eventually was built and called the present I-279. The
>proposed name was different back then...I remember 2 numbers >actually...it
>was going to be part of I-79, then I-276 if my memory is correct. >Anyone with
details about this, please share.

I-279 was originally to be part of I-79 and there are still signs around here
and there that refer to I-279 as I-79. The routing of I-79 around the city was
origianlly called I-279 and the deisgnations were switched about 25-30 years
ago, perhaps becuase around that same time the construction of present I-279
north of the city (formerly I-79) was put on indefinite hold (construction
didn't resume until 1982). I never heard of an "I-276" designation, however.
I-276 is near Philly.
Anyway, the Interstates around Pittsburgh have all goen through several
designations. Here's a summary:

I-79 south of Carnegie: was to be part of I-70 but built as I-79
I-79 between Carnegie and Franklin Park: was to be I-279; cahnged to I-
79
I-76 west of Monroeville: Was I-80S; changed in 1973
I-76 east of Monroeville: Was I-70 from 1960-63 (unsigned); then I-80S
(unsigned); then I-76
I-376: was I-70 (1960-63) then I-76 (1963-1973); then I-376
I-279 north of Pittsburgh: was I-79 then I-279
I-279 southwest of Pittsburgh: was I-70 (1960-1973); then I-79 (1963-19??);
then I- 76 (19??-1973); then I-279 (1973-) - this is perhaps the most
redesignated stretch og interstate in all of America, no wonder locals
jsut call it "Parkway West"
I-70 west of New Stanton and east of Washington: Was I-70S (1960-1963) then
I-70.

GeneJYao

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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I forgot to add to that list of Interstate redesignations I-579 which was
I-876, then I-479, then I-579. So as you can see, every stretch of interstate
in the immediate Pittsburgh vicinity has been at one point (and often at two
points even three points) redesignated. Of course talking about Interstate
routes is only scratching the surface. Many state routes have also been
redesignated. PA 50 used to be part of PA 28, PA 65 was part of PA 88, PA 380
was PA 80, etc. And there are dead roads such as Alt. Route 19.

The Bakers

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Oct 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/21/98
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GeneJYao wrote:

> I-70 west of New Stanton and east of Washington: Was I-70S (1960-1963) then
> I-70.

Errrrrr, shouldn't that be "Little Washington" ?

:-)

ze...@magicnet.net

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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In article <362E6DA6...@monmouth.com>, The Bakers
<mba...@monmouth.com> wrote:

You must be a Pittsburgher. Only a Pittsburgher would know that bit of
info. I was raised in Pittsburgh myself. Reading about all those name
changes has made me dizzy though. Boy, for a city that does not like
"change", they sure changed the names of the Interstates there.

Bob Goudreau

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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The Bakers (mba...@monmouth.com) wrote:
: GeneJYao wrote:

: > I-70 west of New Stanton and east of Washington: Was I-70S (1960-1963) then
: > I-70.

: Errrrrr, shouldn't that be "Little Washington" ?

: :-)

I wonder, are there any towns named "Washington" in eastern states
that are *not* commonly referred to as "Little Washington" in order
to disambiguate them from Washington, DC? In addition to the PA
example above, the Washingtons in both VA and NC also frequently get
the "Little" prefix in spoken usage.

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APri...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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IPA 50 used to be part of PA 28, PA 65 was part of PA 88, PA 380

> was PA 80, etc. And there are dead roads such as Alt. Route 19.
>

Alt. 19 where?..I never heard of that

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Justin Fredrick

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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APri...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> IPA 50 used to be part of PA 28, PA 65 was part of PA 88, PA 380
> > was PA 80, etc. And there are dead roads such as Alt. Route 19.
> >
>
> Alt. 19 where?..I never heard of that

Alt. 19 is now Trk. 19

GeneJYao

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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>Alt. 19 is now Trk. 19

Actually, Alt. 19 was separate from Truck 19. It branched off of US 19 at the
Marshall Ave/California Ave. intersection. Alt. 19 went down Calif. Ave. to
Allegheny Ave and then crossed over to Galveston Ave. It then crossed to
Manchester and Point Bridges (going through the point) and west west down W.
Carson St. to the west end where it hooked back up with US 19. Basically it was
an alternate routing of US 19 that brought it into Downtown (US 19 bypasses
downtown on the West End Bridge). Perhaps (and probably likely) it was an older
routing of US 19 that existed before the West End Bridge opened in 1931.
Anyway, Alt. 19 died when the Point and Manchester Bridges were torn down.
Other dead Alternate routes include Alt. 22/30 which followed Forbes Ave past
where old 22/30 turned onto Beeler St. It believe Alt. 22/30 then went up
Braddock Ave and hooked back up with old US 22/30 at Penn Ave.

JJKITSKO

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Histories of I-279, 579 and 376 can be found at my website.

Jeff Kitsko
PA Highways: http://members.aol.com/jjkitsko/PAHIGHWAYS.html

Tom Ketchum

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Bob Goudreau wrote:
>
> I wonder, are there any towns named "Washington" in eastern states
> that are *not* commonly referred to as "Little Washington" in order
> to disambiguate them from Washington, DC? In addition to the PA
>

Ohio has Washington Court House.

Bob Goudreau

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Tom Ketchum (bigtv...@usa.net) wrote:

... So it's not named "Washington", and could not therefore be
confused with our nation's capital in any case.

ze...@magicnet.net

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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In article <19981022234314...@ng21.aol.com>, jjki...@aol.com
(JJKITSKO) wrote:

I see that the official name of the Parkway West in Pittsburgh is the
"Raymond Wilt Highway" Who is Raymond Wilt????

FranCurcio

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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In article <70nepe$r...@dg-rtp.dg.com>, goud...@dg-rtp.dg.com (Bob Goudreau)
writes:

>
>I wonder, are there any towns named "Washington" in eastern states
>that are *not* commonly referred to as "Little Washington" in order
>to disambiguate them from Washington, DC?

In NJ. There are 5 (yes, *five*) municipalities named Washington. They are
referred to as Washington. The *other* Washington in the East is often
referred to as DC.

Regards,
Frank

BCBA

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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I-279 = Raymond Wilt Highway [signed north of McKnight Road interchange]

"Rod E. Wilt...the third generation of his family to enter the state
(PA) House of Representatives...

(Rod's) father, Roy Wilt, entered the state House in 1968 and retired as
a state senator in 1981. Roy Wilt's father, Raymond Wilt, represented
the North Hills area of Pittsburgh from 1951 to 1970."

"http://www.sharon-herald.com/govt/eln1196/results1196/results1196c.html"

--bruce cridlebaugh

ze...@magicnet.net

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Oct 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/29/98
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In article <3634DA...@prisma-graphicdesign.com>,
sys...@prisma-graphicdesign.com wrote:

Thanks for the info. Speaking of politicians, I am related to the late US
Senator Hugh Scott, former Minority Leader. My dad did not like his
politics though, so we did not talk about it much.

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