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Mark Smigel

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Apr 29, 2003, 7:21:09 PM4/29/03
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Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?

I remember seeing Esso in Germany in the 1970s, but I have no
idea whether it still exists over there.

How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?

Maybe there needs to be a museum to gas stations of eras gone by.

MJ

Jeff Kitsko

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Apr 29, 2003, 7:32:48 PM4/29/03
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"Mark Smigel" <mjsm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
> station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?
>
> I remember seeing Esso in Germany in the 1970s, but I have no
> idea whether it still exists over there.

Yes, Esso is still in existence in Europe and everywhere outside of the
United States. Drive across the border to Canada and you'll see them.

> How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?

The company doesn't exist anymore, but the name still lives on in franchise
locations. I have seen a Gulf branded station in Berlin and a few others
around Pennsylvania.

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Barry L. Camp

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Apr 29, 2003, 7:39:30 PM4/29/03
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"Mark Smigel" <mjsm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
> station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?

Esso is simply a brand name used by the ExxonMobil Corporation.

From esso.com:

"Exxon Mobil Corporation is the parent of Esso, Mobil and ExxonMobil
companies around the world that sell fuels and lubricants under the Esso
brand name."

The Esso name is not used in the United States, however, it is used in
Canada and Mexico.

> I remember seeing Esso in Germany in the 1970s, but I have no
> idea whether it still exists over there.

It is certainly present in Germany, and almost everywhere else in Europe.

> How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?

Yes, but they have retreated to the northeastern U.S., extending only as far
west as Ohio, south to Delaware, but wandering up to Maine.

> Maybe there needs to be a museum to gas stations of eras gone by.

Maybe...


Sherman L. Cahal

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Apr 29, 2003, 8:24:29 PM4/29/03
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"Mark Smigel" <mjsm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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There were a ton of them in Ohio. I have quite a few maps with their brand
plastered all over them.


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George Grapman

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Apr 29, 2003, 10:34:50 PM4/29/03
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Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?


Do any of these brands still exist?

Conoco (midwest)
Skelly
Flying A/Tydol


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Captain Sarcastic

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Apr 29, 2003, 10:12:47 PM4/29/03
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> How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?

Gulf still exists in the Mid-Atlantic area, though by name only. I believe
Cumberland Farms owns the Gulf name.

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Captain Sarcastic

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Apr 29, 2003, 10:15:10 PM4/29/03
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"George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?

There are Citgo stations out in the Pennsylvania/New Jersey/Delaware area.

> Do any of these brands still exist?
>
> Conoco (midwest)
> Skelly
> Flying A/Tydol

I seem to recall a few years back a Conoco station in Wilmington, Delaware.
I don't know if it's still there now. It made sense that it was there since
DuPont was the parent company, and its headquarters are located in
Wilmington.

I also have seen Sinclair gas stations out in Montana, especially in the
area between Bozeman and Yellowstone National Park.

AClark

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Apr 29, 2003, 10:27:13 PM4/29/03
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"George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?
>
There's a Citgo refinery in Lake Charles, LA (I've been there on the oil
tanker I work on), so presumably they still exist as their own entity and
not just a market name for someone else. Of course, with all the mergers
and acquisitions going on, it's getting increasingly harder to follow who
owns whom and under what names.

David Jensen

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Apr 29, 2003, 10:34:05 PM4/29/03
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In misc.transport.road, "AClark" <awulf...@acsalaska.net> wrote in
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>
>"George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:3EAF2908...@NOSPAMpacbell.net...
>> Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?
>>
>There's a Citgo refinery in Lake Charles, LA (I've been there on the oil
>tanker I work on), so presumably they still exist as their own entity and
>not just a market name for someone else. Of course, with all the mergers
>and acquisitions going on, it's getting increasingly harder to follow who
>owns whom and under what names.

Isn't that the one that the Venezuelan state oil company bought?

Richie Kennedy

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Apr 29, 2003, 10:43:59 PM4/29/03
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George Grapman <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in news:3EAF2908.82BA1C37
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>
> Do any of these brands still exist?
>
> Conoco (midwest)

There are several Conoco stations here in Lawrence

> Skelly

Bought by Getty, which was bought by Texaco (in a deal that became a very
big mess with Penzoil). There are a few Skelly and Getty signs at
abandoned stations, but the x-Skelly sites still in operation are about to
get their fourth brand -- Shell.

> Flying A/Tydol

AFAIK, No.


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AClark

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> In misc.transport.road, "AClark" <awulf...@acsalaska.net> wrote in
> <vaud3k1...@corp.supernews.com>:
>
> >
> >"George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
> >news:3EAF2908...@NOSPAMpacbell.net...
> >> Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?
> >>
> >There's a Citgo refinery in Lake Charles, LA (I've been there on the oil
> >tanker I work on), so presumably they still exist as their own entity and
> >not just a market name for someone else. Of course, with all the mergers
> >and acquisitions going on, it's getting increasingly harder to follow who
> >owns whom and under what names.
>
> Isn't that the one that the Venezuelan state oil company bought?
I'm not sure whether Citgo has any crude oil platforms in the Gulf of
Mexico, so it's a good possibility that the crude oil they're refining in
Louisiana is coming from Venezuela. Whether that refinery is actually owned
by Venezuela, I'm not sure, but they do have the big ol' Citgo sign there
still.
A. Clark

BigmikeCU94

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Apr 29, 2003, 10:50:10 PM4/29/03
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>Subject: Re: Esso stations in U.S.
>From: "Captain Sarcastic" capt...@yahoo.com
>Date: 04/29/2003 10:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3eaf31e0$1...@news.starnetusa.net>

>
>"George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
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>> Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?
>
>There are Citgo stations out in the Pennsylvania/New Jersey/Delaware area.

And plenty of them. Quite a few which share property with 7-11...

>
>> Do any of these brands still exist?
>>
>> Conoco (midwest)
>> Skelly
>> Flying A/Tydol
>
>I seem to recall a few years back a Conoco station in Wilmington, Delaware.
>I don't know if it's still there now. It made sense that it was there since
>DuPont was the parent company, and its headquarters are located in
>Wilmington.
>
>I also have seen Sinclair gas stations out in Montana, especially in the
>area between Bozeman and Yellowstone National Park.
>
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Saw some Conoco stations on my last road trip down to Florida (I believe they
were in the Tennessee/Georgia area). Also, stopped at a Flying J to get a
coffee when I got into Florida, although don't know if I've ever seen a Flying
A...

Mike Rapolas

Mike Rogers

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Apr 29, 2003, 11:02:39 PM4/29/03
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Captain Sarcastic wrote:

> "Mark Smigel" <mjsm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:59b1f153.03042...@posting.google.com...
> > How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?
>
> Gulf still exists in the Mid-Atlantic area

...among other places, namely the northeast.

> , though by name only.

No, it is the trademark name of the company called Gulf Oil LP.


> I believe
> Cumberland Farms owns the Gulf name.

Cumberland Farms has a 2/3 ownership stake in Gulf Oil LP which allows it to
use the Gulf name.


Mike Rogers

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Apr 29, 2003, 11:11:14 PM4/29/03
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Jeff Kitsko wrote:

> "Mark Smigel" <mjsm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>

> > How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?
>
> The company doesn't exist anymore

The original Gulf Oil ("Good Gulf") was purchased by Chevron in 1984.
Chevron then divested Gulf's Canadian subsidiary. The Canadian Gulf morphed
through various transactions and was eventually purchased by Conoco in 2001.
Conoco later merged with Phillips, becoming ConocoPhillips.

Back in the US, Chevron sold the Gulf name in the US to a partnership that
formed in Massachusetts, which is where today's Gulf Oil is based, and it
certainly does exist. It is a partial subsidiary of another Massachusetts
company, Cumberland Farms.

> , but the name still lives on in franchise
> locations. I have seen a Gulf branded station in Berlin and a few others
> around Pennsylvania.

There about 1,800 Gulf stations in 11 states.


Mike Rogers

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Apr 29, 2003, 11:14:39 PM4/29/03
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Captain Sarcastic wrote:

> "George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:3EAF2908...@NOSPAMpacbell.net...
> > Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?
>
> There are Citgo stations out in the Pennsylvania/New Jersey/Delaware area.

Among many other places. Citgo is also a wholly subsidiary of Petroleos de
Venezuela SA, the national oil company of the Venezuelan company (socialism),
and a source of major problems right now with the el President Chavez
crackdown. Of course the most famous Citgo sign is the one down the street from
Fenway Park. You can often see this sign during Red Sox games.

US 71

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"Mark Smigel" <mjsm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
> station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?
>
> I remember seeing Esso in Germany in the 1970s, but I have no
> idea whether it still exists over there.
>
> How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?
>

There is a refurbished 1950's ESSO station in Mena, AR but it's not
operative.

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US 71

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"George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?

There's still a Cities Service sign on MO 248 NW of Branson

>
> Do any of these brands still exist?
>
> Conoco (midwest)

Heck yes... we have several Conoco's around here.

> Skelly
The brand in and of itself, no... but their signs can still be found
occasionally.

> Flying A/Tydol
>
same

Barry L. Camp

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Apr 29, 2003, 11:36:08 PM4/29/03
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"George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?

Citgos are all over Michigan... and in many cases you'll see them paired up
with 7-11s.

Their logo has also replaced many of the former "76" signs at thier big
Truck Stops here in Michigan as well.

Stanley Cline

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Apr 29, 2003, 11:55:57 PM4/29/03
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On 30 Apr 2003 02:50:10 GMT, bigmi...@aol.com (BigmikeCU94) wrote:

>Saw some Conoco stations on my last road trip down to Florida (I believe they
>were in the Tennessee/Georgia area). Also, stopped at a Flying J to get a

There are lots of Conocos in the Chattanooga area, as Conoco acquired
Kayo/Jet which used to be based in Chatt. Conoco had a small presence
in Atlanta, but pulled out a year or two ago; most Conocos around here
are now Shells or Citgos. (Of course, they're "sort of" back as
Phillips 66, which has increased its presence around here lately. ;) )

As for Gulf, there used to be lots in the Southeast, but when Chevron
acquired the name and so on all Gulf-branded stations in the Southeast
became BPs -- some of which later switched to Pure (most former Finas
are now Pures as well) or other brands, or became unbranded/generic
independents.

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On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:12:47 -0400, "Captain Sarcastic"
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>Gulf still exists in the Mid-Atlantic area, though by name only. I believe
>Cumberland Farms owns the Gulf name.

Correct (more or less.)

Exile on Market Street

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Apr 30, 2003, 12:36:42 AM4/30/03
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Captain Sarcastic wrote:

> I also have seen Sinclair gas stations out in Montana, especially in the
> area between Bozeman and Yellowstone National Park.

Today's Sinclair is a brand revival. Original Sinclair parent (in its
later years) Atlantic Richfield had eliminated the brand -- along with
the two brands that made up the corporate name -- in favor of ARCO by
the late 1970s, IIRC.

Sun Oil Company revived the Atlantic brand on the stations it purchased
from ARCO in the early 1990s. Some of those were sold to Tosco (I
think), which kept the Atlantic name; the remaining stations took the
Sunoco name.


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Steve

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Apr 30, 2003, 1:48:00 AM4/30/03
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Yes, no, and maybe. Conoco is still very much a player in the
industry. If Skelly is a brand name, I've never seen it in 46 states, 4
provinces, one territory, and three countries. I remember Flying A's
further west (no Tydols), but could not verify if they still exist since
I'm not out there.

terry morgan

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Apr 30, 2003, 9:35:18 AM4/30/03
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"Barry L. Camp" <blc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<vau39kd...@corp.supernews.com>...

> "Mark Smigel" <mjsm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:59b1f153.03042...@posting.google.com...
> > Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
> > station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?
>
> Esso is simply a brand name used by the ExxonMobil Corporation.
>
> From esso.com:
>
> "Exxon Mobil Corporation is the parent of Esso, Mobil and ExxonMobil
> companies around the world that sell fuels and lubricants under the Esso
> brand name."
>
> The Esso name is not used in the United States, however, it is used in
> Canada and Mexico.
>
ExxonMobil still uses the "ESSO" brand in the U.S. by marketing
"Esso"-branded
Diesel fuel in selected Exxon stations and selling a line of Motor Oil
under the
"Esso" brand. These are marketed in the states where Exxon (now
ExxonMobil)
is allowed to use the brand. Many of the "Baby Standards" still
protect
their "Standard" trademark rights by limited marketing of the
"Standard" brand in their original Standard marketing areas (Chevron
and Amoco).
Plus, Exxon still protects "Esso" and BP protects "SOHIO."
Outside of the U.S. "Esso" is Exxon's primary trademark for petroleum
products.
Happy Motoring!
Terry in SOCONYLAND

Ron Wilbanks

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Apr 30, 2003, 3:26:59 PM4/30/03
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Last week I was watching the motion picture "The Long Hot Summer" on
American Movie Classics cable channel and they had an Esso station in
the background on a few shots. It was really interesting to see this
brand name, which disappeared when from the American landscape long ago.
The movie, which stars Paul Newman and Orson Wells, was filmed in
Clinton, Louisiana in the late 1950s.


Sincerely,

Ron

Ron Wilbanks

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Apr 30, 2003, 3:29:17 PM4/30/03
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George Grapman wrote:
> Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?
>
>
> Do any of these brands still exist?
>
> Conoco (midwest)
> Skelly
> Flying A/Tydol

While were at it:

Boron
Sohio
Gulf
Texaco
Sinclair
Standard (not the AMOCO logo)

I have not seen any of these around in ages.


Sincerely,

Ron

John David Galt

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Apr 30, 2003, 3:44:50 PM4/30/03
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Mark Smigel wrote:
> Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
> station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?

Esso changed en masse to Exxon. I don't believe there are any left in the
US, though they still use the Esso brand in Canada.

Before the change, Enco (similar logo) was a more common brand than Esso,
at least in the western states.

Paul S. Wolf

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BP still uses the SOHIO brand and logo at their Marina pumps, in order to
maintain the trademark. There are quite a few here in Cleveland. They may
do the same for BORON in PA (Erie or Pittsburgh, perhaps)

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Jeff Leadbeater

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Apr 30, 2003, 5:22:26 PM4/30/03
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"Jeff Kitsko" <webm...@tollspahighways.com> wrote in message
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> "Mark Smigel" <mjsm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:59b1f153.03042...@posting.google.com...
> > Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
> > station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?
> >
> > I remember seeing Esso in Germany in the 1970s, but I have no
> > idea whether it still exists over there.
>
> Yes, Esso is still in existence in Europe and everywhere outside of the
> United States. Drive across the border to Canada and you'll see them.
>

Esso was phased out in the U.S. when Standard Oil of New Jersey (Jersey
Standard) became Exxon in 1972. Esso was their marketing name. It is still
used outside our borders (I too saw them in Canada when I did my road trip
last year). Esso is still owned by ExxonMobil.

Robert Droz has a good chronicle of the breakup of Standard Oil here:
http://www.us-highways.com/sohist.htm

Jeff Leadbeater


Jeff Kitsko

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Apr 30, 2003, 5:25:36 PM4/30/03
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"Ron Wilbanks" <NYC...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> George Grapman wrote:
> > Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?
> >
> >
> > Do any of these brands still exist?
> >
> > Conoco (midwest)
> > Skelly
> > Flying A/Tydol
>
> While were at it:
>
> Boron
> Sohio

Both bought out by British Petroleum.

> Gulf

Already mentioned.

> Texaco

Seen a few around.

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Captain Sarcastic

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"Richie Kennedy" <rou...@route56.com> wrote in message
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> Bought by Getty, which was bought by Texaco (in a deal that became a very
> big mess with Penzoil). There are a few Skelly and Getty signs at
> abandoned stations, but the x-Skelly sites still in operation are about to
> get their fourth brand -- Shell.

Pennsylvania has a few Getty stations that are alive and well.

Joe Rouse

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Captain Sarcastic <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:3EAF2908...@NOSPAMpacbell.net...
> > Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?
>
> There are Citgo stations out in the Pennsylvania/New Jersey/Delaware area.
>

Citgo entered the California market a few years ago when they placed their
brand on the gas pumps at 7-Eleven stores. I would assume that Citgo had
probably produced gas for 7-11 for a while and then the two agreed to place
the Citgo brand on the pumps.


Captain Sarcastic

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Apr 30, 2003, 5:26:22 PM4/30/03
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"Ron Wilbanks" <NYC...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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> While were at it:
>
> Boron
> Sohio
> Gulf
> Texaco
> Sinclair
> Standard (not the AMOCO logo)
>
> I have not seen any of these around in ages.

Boron, Sohio and Standard sans Amoco logo I am not sure about.

Gulf is around -- the name is owned more or less by Cumberland Farms.
Previous posts on this thread explain more.

Texaco is very much still around.

I have spotted Sinclairs out in Montana, but a previous poster said that
apparently the use of the Sinclair name is more of a name revival.

Kevin Flynn

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Apr 30, 2003, 6:30:01 PM4/30/03
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> Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?
>
>
> Do any of these brands still exist?
>
> Conoco (midwest)

Conoco dominates in Colorado. There are corners in Denver where Conoco
is on both sides of the street.

Jeff Kitsko

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Apr 30, 2003, 8:03:28 PM4/30/03
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"Joe Rouse" <es...@lansPAMet.com> wrote in message
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Most of the Citgos around here are also combined with 7-11. I can think of
one or two that are just the brand without the 7-11.

SP Cook

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Apr 30, 2003, 9:45:49 PM4/30/03
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"Barry L. Camp" <blc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> The Esso name is not used in the United States, however, it is used in
> Canada and Mexico.
>

Standard Oil, the illegal monopolistic predatory alter-ego of the
Rockefeller family was broken up into pieces by the government in the
landmark anti-trust case 100 years ago. The various pieces each owned
the rights to "Standard" in particular states. Standard Oil of New
Jersey owned the Mid-Atlantic states, and every place outside the USA.
It marketed as "Esso" in those states, and as "Enco" and "Humble"
elsewhere. Eventually the various "baby Standards" realized that a
single national brand was better, and recently several of them have
re-merged.

However, each owner of the word Standard protects the trademark in its
respective states via token use of it. Today, Exxon/Mobil owns
"Standard" along the east coast from DC north. In each state,
something is labeled as "Standard" and "Esso" to protect the
trademark. Chevron/Texaco owns "Standard" in the South, Southwest,
and West and does likewise, as does BP/Amoco which owns it in the
Midwest.

Exxon/Mobil owns Esso everywhere outside the USA, and it is a major
brand, not a relic from the past. This makes protection of "Standard"
and "Esso" very important for Exxon/Mobil. They already lost it in
Conn. via inattention.

However, there is no "Esso" or any other brand in Mexico. The oil
industry, from production to refining to retailing, is owned by the
government and there is only one brand, Pemex.

SP Cook

Bill Mitchell

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mjsm...@hotmail.com (Mark Smigel) wrote in message news:<59b1f153.03042...@posting.google.com>...

> Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
> station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?
>

Not only am I old enough to remember the use of the Esso name in the
states, I was an Esso dealer here in NJ when they adopted the name
Exxon in 72/73.

The company name was Humble Oil and Refining, Inc. before the name
change. They marketed product (gas, oil) under the Esso, Humble and
Enco brand names. Humble was used in the Texas area, Enco in the
midwest and west where they could not use Standard and Esso was used
where ever they had the rights to the use of Standard.

In the early sixties or so SNJ started to plan to consolidate
marketing under one brand name, so the adoption of the Humble Oil &
Refining name, but they decided against fully going Humble around '70
or so. When they made up Exxon, the original plan was to go to Exxon
Corp. world wide and Exxon Co, USA in the states. They still marketed
oil for Heavy duty Diesels under the Esso brand name to protect their
rights to the Standard brand where ever they could. (they still do
this and a few other like things). The first glitch in converting to
Exxon occured in the upper Midwest, this resulted in the Enco name
still being used in at least the late seventies in places there.

> I remember seeing Esso in Germany in the 1970s, but I have no
> idea whether it still exists over there.
>

Esso still exists outside the states. The whole ball game has changed
since it became ExxonMobil, and had to divest much of itself. Some
examples, the refinery I used to deal with still outputs Exxon Product
for local retail stores, but is now Phillips (this was sold to Tosco
before the merger). Exxons in NY are Phillips using the Exxon brand
name (as are Mobils in NJ marketing as Mobil but owned by Phillips).
And are they still Phillips, or are they Conoco now? Seems they
players change evry other day nowadays.

I still have an Esso ID sign in my garage.

> How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?

Although many of their retail stores have closed, the Gulf brand is
still used here by Cumberland Farms. There's two within four blocks of
my house.

Hmm, we were a Gulf dealer once too.
>

Steve Riner

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Apr 30, 2003, 11:52:47 PM4/30/03
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>Do any of these brands still exist?
>
> Conoco (midwest)
> Skelly
> Flying A/Tydol

There are a few billion (it seems) Conoco stations in the midwest and west to
the Rockies...they're quite prevalent around here. In the Pueblo area and
elsewhere in southern Colorado, many are Loaf N Jug stores (owned by the
grocery behemoth Kroger).

While Skelly has for the most part disappeared, there was an active one in
Minnesota near Lake Minnetonka, at least in summer 2001.
Steve Riner
Pueblo West, CO (formerly Twin Cities, MN 1977-2002)
Explore Minnesota Highways at:
http://www.steve-riner.com/mnhighways/mnhome.htm

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Mark Edwards

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May 1, 2003, 12:31:26 AM5/1/03
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"Captain Sarcastic" <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote...

> I have spotted Sinclairs out in Montana, but a previous poster said that
> apparently the use of the Sinclair name is more of a name revival.

Sinclairs are all over the place in the Rocky Mountain Region
and in the central Great Plains... literally hundreds of stores.
Very spartan, though, with a tiny convenience store if even that.
<http://www.sinclairoil.com/locations.asp>

Now does anyone remember Hi Val? Big convenience store/gas
station chain in southern Texas that didn't last long (late
1980s perhaps). I remember around 1990 HUNDREDS of Stop-N-Gos
sprouted up out of nowhere, and Hi Val disappeared.

M

Alan Hamilton

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May 1, 2003, 2:35:45 AM5/1/03
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On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:26:22 -0400, "Captain Sarcastic"
<capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Texaco is very much still around.

But on the way out. ChevronTexaco had to sell off its Texaco retail
operations as a condition of the merger. A few around here (Phoenix)
have converted to Shell, but more have been closed.
--
/
/ * / Alan Hamilton
* * al...@arizonaroads.com

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Alan Hamilton

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May 1, 2003, 2:37:25 AM5/1/03
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Chevron (Standard of California) complained Esso was too similar to
S.O. aka Standard Oil.

US 71

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May 1, 2003, 2:51:00 AM5/1/03
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"Jeff Kitsko" <webm...@tollspahighways.com> wrote in message
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>
> Most of the Citgos around here are also combined with 7-11. I can think
of
> one or two that are just the brand without the 7-11.
>

Citgo used to be branded with 7-11 when they were still in NW Arkansas. Now
that 7-11 has disapperaed, the Citgo's are mostly independent (except for
Flash Markets).

Texacos are mostly associated with the regional c-store chain White Oak
Station, but used to be at Kum and Go as well.

side note: Exxon has all but disappeared from this area. They have been
replaced by Phillips66 and Citgo.

Pete from Boston

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May 1, 2003, 2:56:46 PM5/1/03
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"Captain Sarcastic" <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3eb03fe5$1...@news.starnetusa.net>...

Getty has for several years been a subsidiary of LukOil, Russia's
largest integrated oil and gas company.

http://www.lukoil.com/about/sub_mark.htm

Grover

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May 1, 2003, 6:02:17 PM5/1/03
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>In the early sixties or so SNJ started to plan to consolidate
>marketing under one brand name, so the adoption of the Humble Oil &
>Refining name, but they decided against fully going Humble around '70
>or so.

Thank you! This finally explains what I used to see in pre-Exxon New Jersey.
There were a lot of Esso stations around then, and there were always two signs
on each station building. Over the service bay doors (in these days a gas-only
retailer was a rarity) it read "Happy Motoring!", and over the station entrance
it said "HUMBLE" in large block letters. Yet the sign out on the pylon still
read "Esso".

So, if what you say is true, Jersey Standard decided on the name "Humble" and
put the name on the buildings first as a precursor to the change, but called
the decision off before the new pylon signs and other graphics were ordered.
Of course, when everything became Exxon, the Humble signs came down (came
Humbling down?) but the "Happy Motoring!" signs often remained. I know of one
Exxon station that kept the Happy Motoring even after the station was
re-branded Marathon.

Captain Sarcastic

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May 1, 2003, 7:00:53 PM5/1/03
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"Mark Edwards" <bit...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sinclairs are all over the place in the Rocky Mountain Region
> and in the central Great Plains... literally hundreds of stores.
> Very spartan, though, with a tiny convenience store if even that.
> <http://www.sinclairoil.com/locations.asp>

I recall a Sinclair with a general store (Yes! A general store!) on US 89
in Montana between I-90 and Yellowstone National Park. In fact, I think it
was the only gas station between Yellowstone and I-90.

Captain Sarcastic

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May 1, 2003, 7:03:06 PM5/1/03
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Does anyone remember Skat? I think these were replaced by Sheetz. They
were out in Western PA, and I'm sure thatthey were in other locales, too.

Jeff Kitsko

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May 1, 2003, 7:30:28 PM5/1/03
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"Captain Sarcastic" <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3eb1...@news.starnetusa.net...

> Does anyone remember Skat? I think these were replaced by Sheetz. They
> were out in Western PA, and I'm sure thatthey were in other locales, too.

I remember a Skat or two.

Matthew Hunt

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May 1, 2003, 7:46:00 PM5/1/03
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In article <3eb1...@news.starnetusa.net>,
Captain Sarcastic <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Does anyone remember Skat? I think these were replaced by Sheetz. They
> were out in Western PA, and I'm sure thatthey were in other locales, too.

Too bad they changed the name. Instead of M-T-O Burgerz, we could be
eating Skat-on-a-Bun. Mmmm...

Brandon Gorte

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May 1, 2003, 10:58:15 PM5/1/03
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"Joe Rouse" <es...@lansPAMet.com> wrote in message
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>

Pretty much what I can gather, is that the Southland Corporation (aka
7-Eleven) owned and/or supplied many Citgo Quik Marts, and changed quite a
few of them over to the 7-Eleven brand w/ Citgo gasoline.

The company I work for has 7-Eleven as a client, and I can fin out soem of
the history behind this.

-Brandon


Brandon Gorte

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May 1, 2003, 10:59:42 PM5/1/03
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"AClark" <awulf...@acsalaska.net> wrote in message
news:vaud3k1...@corp.supernews.com...

>
> "George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:3EAF2908...@NOSPAMpacbell.net...
> > Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?
> >
> There's a Citgo refinery in Lake Charles, LA (I've been there on the oil
> tanker I work on), so presumably they still exist as their own entity and
> not just a market name for someone else. Of course, with all the mergers
> and acquisitions going on, it's getting increasingly harder to follow who
> owns whom and under what names.

There's also a Citgo refinery (formerly UnoVen, formerly UnoCal, formerly
Union 76) in Romeoville, IL.

-Brandon


Brandon Gorte

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May 1, 2003, 11:03:19 PM5/1/03
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"Alan Hamilton" <al...@arizonaroads.com> wrote in message
news:b8qfar$cfu83$2...@ID-131683.news.dfncis.de...

> On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:44:50 -0700, John David Galt
> <j...@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us> wrote:
>
> >Mark Smigel wrote:
> >> Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
> >> station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?
> >
> >Esso changed en masse to Exxon. I don't believe there are any left in
the
> >US, though they still use the Esso brand in Canada.
> >
> >Before the change, Enco (similar logo) was a more common brand than Esso,
> >at least in the western states.
>
> Chevron (Standard of California) complained Esso was too similar to
> S.O. aka Standard Oil.

Not just Chevron, but Standard Oil of Indiana (aka Amoco) as well.

-Brandon


James C. Schul

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May 2, 2003, 2:45:12 AM5/2/03
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> How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?

There are several Gulf stations here in Ohio:

Ashtabula
Columbus (opened recently; near Cooper Stadium; visible from I-70)
Deerfield (west of Youngstown where US 224, OH 14, and OH 225 come
together)
Ironton
Lucasville
Marion (according to my brother)
McConnelsville (or somewhere along OH 60 between Marietta and
Zanesville)
Portsmouth

According to one of my freeway exit guides there's a Gulf station at
I-70 Exit 225 (US 250/OH 7) to the south.

Some "ghosts" (closed stations):

Bowling Green (along W. Wooster Ave./OH 64 away from I-75)
Dayton (I-75 at Wagner Ford Rd.--became a Sunoco)
Grove City (I-71 at OH 665; was operating ten years ago)
Upper Sandusky (closed one back in 1995)
US 36 at OH 235 between Piqua and Urbana ("bulgy circle" on a sign is
the only remaining proof)

I can remember growing up in Hamilton, there was a Gulf station on
Main St. (ObRoads: OH 177) near Fillmore Elementary School that had a
sign "THE GAS WITH GUTS". This was 1983 or 1984. It eventually
became a Chevron, then an Ashland in early 1996, finally Marathon a
year or two later. (I stopped into the said station for Marathon gas
and found some Gulf insignia on the walls! The pumps were old, like
the very first digital (orange LED display with VERY POOR readouts--as
if the units burned out often!) gas pumps. The station has since been
refurbished, so I can't guarantee you that it's still there!)

terry morgan

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May 2, 2003, 8:10:37 AM5/2/03
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I believe the only "Baby Standard" that didn't object to Standard of
New Jersey
entering its area with "Esso" was Socony (Standard of New York).
Jersey wasn't
barred from using the "Esso" brand in NY and New England, provided it
didn't use
the term "Standard Esso." Jersey purchased Colonial- Beacon (Colonial
a former
Standard) in New England and a company in NY (whose name escapes me)
and rebranded the stations "Colonial Esso." When SOCONY-Vacuum (Mobil)
abandoned their rights to "Standard" in (I believe) the early 50's,
Jersey
jumped in and reverted their Colonial stations to Standard Esso.
BTW, there is a Standard Oil of CT that apparently has no connection
with
any of the "Baby Standards."
http://www.standardoil.net/home.htm
Terry in SOCONYLAND
Happy Motoring!!!

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Jeff Kitsko

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May 2, 2003, 12:47:50 PM5/2/03
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"James C. Schul" <jcs...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:c76a44b.03050...@posting.google.com...

> > How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?
>
> There are several Gulf stations here in Ohio:
>
> Ashtabula
> Columbus (opened recently; near Cooper Stadium; visible from I-70)
> Deerfield (west of Youngstown where US 224, OH 14, and OH 225 come
> together)
> Ironton
> Lucasville
> Marion (according to my brother)
> McConnelsville (or somewhere along OH 60 between Marietta and
> Zanesville)
> Portsmouth
>
> According to one of my freeway exit guides there's a Gulf station at
> I-70 Exit 225 (US 250/OH 7) to the south.

I don't remember seeing it when I was through there in October.

Brian Powell

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May 2, 2003, 5:33:52 PM5/2/03
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"Jeff Kitsko" <webm...@tollspahighways.com> wrote in message
news:Wixsa.706901$F1.92939@sccrnsc04...

> "James C. Schul" <jcs...@ameritech.net> wrote in message
> news:c76a44b.03050...@posting.google.com...
> > > How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?
> >
> > There are several Gulf stations here in Ohio:
> >
> > Ashtabula
> > Columbus (opened recently; near Cooper Stadium; visible from I-70)
> > Deerfield (west of Youngstown where US 224, OH 14, and OH 225 come
> > together)
> > Ironton
> > Lucasville
> > Marion (according to my brother)
> > McConnelsville (or somewhere along OH 60 between Marietta and
> > Zanesville)
> > Portsmouth
> >
> > According to one of my freeway exit guides there's a Gulf station at
> > I-70 Exit 225 (US 250/OH 7) to the south.

There is a Gulf station on Cleveland Avenue NW in Canton. It's a little
under a mile north of the US 62 freeway.

Brian Powell
E. Central States Road Guide: http://ecsrg.n3.net/
E-mail: ohhw...@hotmail.com


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GeneJYao

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May 3, 2003, 9:38:44 AM5/3/03
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smiths wrote:

<< Sun Oil Company revived the Atlantic brand on the stations it purchased
from ARCO in the early 1990s. >>

Why didn't they just change them to Sunocos back then?

GeneJYao

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May 3, 2003, 9:48:24 AM5/3/03
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mitch wrote:

<< When they made up Exxon, the original plan was to go to Exxon
Corp. world wide and Exxon Co, USA in the states. >>

What made them decide not to go to Exxon worldwide?

Ron Newman

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May 5, 2003, 10:53:56 AM5/5/03
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In article <3EAF3F9F...@spam.free>,
Mike Rogers <mike....@spam.free> wrote:

> Of course the most famous Citgo sign is the one down the street
> from Fenway Park. You can often see this sign during Red Sox games.

CITGO is also a sponsor of the Boston Marathon, so their name
and logo appears on every runner's number. The Marathon goes
right by the huge CITGO sign.

Ron Newman

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May 5, 2003, 10:49:13 AM5/5/03
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In article <3EB016B2...@ameritech.net>,
Ron Wilbanks <NYC...@ameritech.net> wrote:

> Boron
> Sohio

Sohio was Standard Oil of Ohio. Boron was the company's brand
outside Ohio. Both now subsumed into BP.

Ron Newman

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May 5, 2003, 10:57:53 AM5/5/03
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In article <a339c9ee.03043...@posting.google.com>,
mi...@nettrip.net (Bill Mitchell) wrote:

> The company name was Humble Oil and Refining, Inc. before the name
> change. They marketed product (gas, oil) under the Esso, Humble and
> Enco brand names. Humble was used in the Texas area, Enco in the
> midwest and west where they could not use Standard and Esso was used
> where ever they had the rights to the use of Standard.

When I lived in Ohio in the early 1970s, I saw Humble stations,
not Enco or Esso. (Esso would not have been allowed because
Sohio owned the "Standard Oil" name there.)

Pat O'Connell

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May 5, 2003, 3:20:38 PM5/5/03
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The stations were called "Enco" in Indiana, however. Standard of
Indiana (aka Amoco/BP) had no problem with that name.
--
Pat O'Connell
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints,
Kill nothing but vandals...

James C. Schul

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May 6, 2003, 1:27:33 AM5/6/03
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"Jeff Kitsko" <webm...@tollspahighways.com> wrote in message
> Most of the Citgos around here are also combined with 7-11. I can think of
> one or two that are just the brand without the 7-11.


Here in the Dayton area I can't think of one or two Citgos WITH the
7-11. The Citgo brand is plentiful, but 7-11 does not market here in
Dayton. (The only place I have seen 7-11 is Findlay, and that was May
17, 1998. I can't remember the street name, but it's the north-south
one that has an East of Chicago Pizza Company restaurant.)

In West Branch, Michigan, last year I stopped at a Marathon station
(ObRoads: It was at I-75 Exit 212/Business I-75, Cook Rd.) which had
a 7-11 C-store.

Bill Mitchell

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May 6, 2003, 6:28:07 PM5/6/03
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gene...@aol.com (GeneJYao) wrote in message news:<20030503094824...@mb-m21.aol.com>...

I can only say what I heard, which is hearsay or rumor at best. They
were unable to register and trademark Exxon in France because somebody
had beat them to it. That could have happened. I remember when the
notice about the coming name change came around, I did not read the
entire notice. (Note this was not my trade name, only here for
example)

I had been operating as a partnership d/b/a "Mitch's Esso". The day
after the notice came around, I registered a new corporation "Mitch's
Exxon". This was one of the things that were supposed to be
_prohibited_ in the notice. Exxon would always make checks out to me
as "Mitch's Service" but they never forced me to remove the word Exxon
from my corporate name.

In fact I had Exxon in more than two of my corporate names. If I'm not
mistaken, not forcing me to remove it from my corporate name(s) could
have been a bad move on their part if I had ever wanted them to lose
it as a registered trademark.

This is ancient history, I disolved them about 20 years ago.

John David Galt

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May 6, 2003, 10:51:02 PM5/6/03
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>> What made them decide not to go to Exxon worldwide?

> I can only say what I heard, which is hearsay or rumor at best. They
> were unable to register and trademark Exxon in France because somebody
> had beat them to it. That could have happened. I remember when the
> notice about the coming name change came around, I did not read the
> entire notice. (Note this was not my trade name, only here for
> example)

I've worked for other companies that couldn't operate in France or Spain
for the same reason. Apparently Europe refuses to outlaw "namesquatters."

Edward Curtis

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May 8, 2003, 12:55:08 AM5/8/03
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In article <kbXra.709661$S_4.746209@rwcrnsc53>, Jeff Kitsko says...
> > Texaco
>
> Seen a few around.

There's one on US 19 south of Pittsburgh, I know. I remember seeing some
on my trips to Florida in the last few years. And there *was* one on US
119 just south of Morgantown, WV (where I live), but it's something else
now.

Also the truck stop at I-79 Exit #1 in PA used to be a Texaco, but now
it's Citgo.

Edward

R. Droz

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May 8, 2003, 10:27:53 AM5/8/03
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mjsm...@hotmail.com (Mark Smigel) wrote in message news:<59b1f153.03042...@posting.google.com>...

> Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
> station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?
>
> I remember seeing Esso in Germany in the 1970s, but I have no
> idea whether it still exists over there.
>
http:://www.esso.com/ Still exists, just not in the US.

> How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?

The Gulf brand name is owned by a foriegn company now, afaik know.
There is a a Gulf in the northeastern US http://www.gulfoil.com/

> Maybe there needs to be a museum to gas stations of eras gone by.

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~cirillo/petro/gassigns.htm

R. Droz

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May 8, 2003, 10:41:26 AM5/8/03
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> Ron Wilbanks wrote:
> >
> > While we're at it:
> >
> > Boron
> > Sohio
The BP website lists the Marine Company as BP, too.
> > Gulf
Northeastern US and Overseas.
> > Texaco
Florida is still flooded with these, waiting on Shell to
pounce.
> > Sinclair
Midwestern US www.sinclair.com
> > Standard (not the AMOCO logo)
There is a Standard Station in every state that Chevron holds
the rights too. Older Esso signs also claimed "Standard" Oil and Sohio
stations boldly proclaimed "Standard Oil" on the buildings.

David Norris

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May 8, 2003, 6:59:14 PM5/8/03
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On 8 May 2003 07:27:53 -0700, us...@earthlink.net (R. Droz) wrote:

>mjsm...@hotmail.com (Mark Smigel) wrote in message news:<59b1f153.03042...@posting.google.com>...
>> Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
>> station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?
>>
>> I remember seeing Esso in Germany in the 1970s, but I have no
>> idea whether it still exists over there.
>>
>http:://www.esso.com/ Still exists, just not in the US.
>
>> How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?
>
>The Gulf brand name is owned by a foriegn company now, afaik know.
>There is a a Gulf in the northeastern US http://www.gulfoil.com/
>

there's a Gulf station in beautiful downtown Lucasville, OH.


>> Maybe there needs to be a museum to gas stations of eras gone by.
>
>http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~cirillo/petro/gassigns.htm

--
Dave Norris
Lucasville, OH

Bill Mitchell

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May 8, 2003, 7:13:22 PM5/8/03
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Ron Newman <rne...@thecia.net> wrote in message news:<rnewman-F0B753...@enews.newsguy.com>...

They used Esso as their brand name where ever they could, which means
where ever one of the baby standards didn't actually prevent them from
using Esso. Esso was after all S.O. which stood for Standard Oil.
Where they couldn't use Esso, they used Enco in the west and midwest,
and tended to use Humble in the Texas area. I didn't know exactly what
they did in Ohio. I do remember that they had killed using Enco as
their uniform brand name because it supposedly didn't translate well
in Japanese.

I believe that Humble was the location of their first well, Humble,
Texas.

sycamore

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May 8, 2003, 11:50:21 PM5/8/03
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"R. Droz" wrote:

>
> http:://www.esso.com/ Still exists, just not in the US.

Yep, they have advertising on the boards at Air Canada Centre in Toronto. In fact, my new Mobil card just came
today, saying I could use it at stations with the Esso logo in Canada.

> The Gulf brand name is owned by a foriegn company now, afaik know.
> There is a a Gulf in the northeastern US http://www.gulfoil.com/

There are still quite a few Gulf stations here in the Philadelphia area...one is right down the street from me.

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Andrew M. Saucci, Jr.

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May 26, 2003, 10:14:06 PM5/26/03
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When Texaco bought Getty Oil Corp., it divested distribution rights to
a large number of stations to a relatively small Long Island, NY
company then known as Power Test, which also acquired rights to the
Getty name and changed its name to Getty Petroleum Corp. The current
Getty is a descendent of that Power Test in some way.

mass...@my-deja.com (Pete from Boston) wrote in message news:<b282e3e6.0305...@posting.google.com>...
> "Captain Sarcastic" <capt...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3eb03fe5$1...@news.starnetusa.net>...
> > "Richie Kennedy" <rou...@route56.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns936CDD21...@216.168.3.44...
> > > Bought by Getty, which was bought by Texaco (in a deal that became a very
> > > big mess with Penzoil). There are a few Skelly and Getty signs at
> > > abandoned stations, but the x-Skelly sites still in operation are about to
> > > get their fourth brand -- Shell.
> >
> > Pennsylvania has a few Getty stations that are alive and well.
>
> Getty has for several years been a subsidiary of LukOil, Russia's
> largest integrated oil and gas company.
>
> http://www.lukoil.com/about/sub_mark.htm

Stan

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May 27, 2003, 10:09:55 PM5/27/03
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Look for the "Power Test" logo on overalls worn by most of the cast in Billy
Joel's "Uptown Girl" video.

"Andrew M. Saucci, Jr." <7211...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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Daniel Dey

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May 28, 2003, 10:16:20 AM5/28/03
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Exile on Market Street <smi...@pobox.upenn.edu> wrote in message news:<3EAF52D...@pobox.upenn.edu>...
> Captain Sarcastic wrote:
>
> > I also have seen Sinclair gas stations out in Montana, especially in the
> > area between Bozeman and Yellowstone National Park.
>
> Today's Sinclair is a brand revival. Original Sinclair parent (in its
> later years) Atlantic Richfield had eliminated the brand -- along with
> the two brands that made up the corporate name -- in favor of ARCO by
> the late 1970s, IIRC.
>
I saw the name ARCO much earlier in the 1970's everywhere in the
northeast except New York City and Long Island. However around 1981 I
saw a CBS Children's Mystery Theater episode called "Mystery at Fire
Island" which actually showed an ARCO Marine fueling station in the
background.

> Sun Oil Company revived the Atlantic brand on the stations it purchased

> from ARCO in the early 1990s. Some of those were sold to Tosco (I
> think), which kept the Atlantic name; the remaining stations took the
> Sunoco name.
>
>
Doesn't Tosco own Union 76 and Circle K now?


Daniel Timothy Dey

Daniel Dey

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May 28, 2003, 10:25:07 AM5/28/03
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Ron Wilbanks <NYC...@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:<3EB016B2...@ameritech.net>...

> George Grapman wrote:
> > Does anyone else remember Cities Service (it became Citgo) ?
> >
> >
> > Do any of these brands still exist?
> >
> > Conoco (midwest)
> > Skelly
> > Flying A/Tydol
>
> While were at it:
>
> Boron
> Sohio
> Gulf
> Texaco

Still exists. There's one that's hooked up to a Burger King on Citrus
County Road 486 near Beverly Hills, Florida, and it's not the only one
left. I'm surprised you can't find one in the NY-Tri-State Area.

> Sinclair


> Standard (not the AMOCO logo)

Then which Standard are you talking about? Chevron, Exxon(Esso, Enco,
Humble, Imperial, etc), or what?

Joe Rouse

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May 28, 2003, 8:29:04 PM5/28/03
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Daniel Dey <dtd1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Tosco bought the marketing and refining division of Unocal Corporation
several years ago and also acquired the rights to the 76 ball logo. They
already owned Circle K and began co-branding the stations. This was in
addition to the stations they owned under various other brand names.

Tosco was then bought by Phillips Petroleum. Phillips Petroleum then merged
with Conoco last year or early this year and the company is now
ConocoPhillips.

There is a "76" fuel terminal on the southwest side of downtown Sacramento.
It's right at the I-5/Bus-80 interchange. The address is 76 Broadway and the
building has the 76 logo on the front. But on the flagpole they fly the US
flag and a ConocoPhillips flag.


Kozl...@myremarq.tk

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May 29, 2003, 11:54:11 AM5/29/03
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>
> >> Do any of these brands still exist?
> >>
> >> Conoco (midwest)
> >> Skelly
> >> Flying A/Tydol
> >>
> >>In the early 80;s there were a couple of Flying A stations between Portland, OR and the coast. I can find nothing of them these days?
> >> --
.
> >>
> >>
> >

micro...@gmail.com

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Jul 31, 2019, 2:15:24 PM7/31/19
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I remember Esso when I was a kid,my Dad had a Sunocco station and the Esso down the street was his competition, I have recently seen Esso in Eastern Europe.

John Levine

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Aug 1, 2019, 10:53:47 AM8/1/19
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In article <b32f5cb1-c5f2-4696...@googlegroups.com>,
<micro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I remember Esso when I was a kid,my Dad had a Sunocco station and the Esso down the street was his competition, I have recently seen Esso in
>Eastern Europe.

Do you think anything might have changed in the 16 years since that message was posted?



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Kenny McCormack

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Aug 1, 2019, 11:59:15 AM8/1/19
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In article <qhuudp$277d$1...@gal.iecc.com>, John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote:
>In article <b32f5cb1-c5f2-4696...@googlegroups.com>,
> <micro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>I remember Esso when I was a kid,my Dad had a Sunocco station and the Esso down
>the street was his competition, I have recently seen Esso in
>>Eastern Europe.
>
>Do you think anything might have changed in the 16 years since that message was posted?

Given the (very low) volume in this group, I have no problem with these necro-threads.

I actually find it amusing.

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gvcr...@gmail.com

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Aug 3, 2019, 2:56:51 PM8/3/19
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On Tuesday, April 29, 2003 at 6:21:09 PM UTC-5, Mark Smigel wrote:
> Is anyone here old enough to remember when Esso was a major gas
> station in the U.S.? What was the last American Esso in operation?
>
> I remember seeing Esso in Germany in the 1970s, but I have no
> idea whether it still exists over there.
>
> How about Gulf: does that gas station still exist?
>
> Maybe there needs to be a museum to gas stations of eras gone by.
>
> MJ

There are some Gulf stations in Houston Tx, Haven't seen any Esso

Clark F Morris

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Aug 3, 2019, 5:02:27 PM8/3/19
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Plenty of ESSO in Canada an no Exxon.

Clark Morris

John Levine

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Aug 3, 2019, 5:23:03 PM8/3/19
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In article <2438bd67-f191-42ec...@googlegroups.com>,
<gvcr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>There are some Gulf stations in Houston Tx, Haven't seen any Esso

There are no Esso stations left in the U.S. and there haven't been
since 1972. As part of the Standard Oil breakup in 1911 each of the
successor Standard Oil companies had the right to use the Standard
name in its own territory. A court case in the 1930s said that Esso
was too close to S.O., so the Standard Oil company of New Jersey could
only use that name in its home territory in the eastern U.S. and used
other names elsewhere including Humble and Enco. In 1972 they
rebranded all of their U.S. properties as Exxon.

Outside the U.S. none of this applied so there are lots of Esso
stations in other countries around the world.

The Gulf name is even more complicated. The former Gulf Oil company
was merged into Chevron in the 1970s, the name was mostly abandoned,
then was licensed to regional operators so the Gulf stations you see
now are unrelated to the old Gulf company, and the ones in Texas
are not the same company as the ones in the northeast.

Stop-IL-TollwayRipoffs

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Aug 11, 2019, 2:34:24 PM8/11/19
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Alaska Vandelizer Exxon is trying to add the brand to Mobil stations around Chicago. Go away ExxScam !

John Levine

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Aug 11, 2019, 3:18:31 PM8/11/19
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In article <e67efd81-73d0-40ae...@googlegroups.com>,
Stop-IL-TollwayRipoffs <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Alaska Vandelizer Exxon is trying to add the brand to Mobil stations around Chicago. Go away ExxScam !

It's a little late. Exxon bought Mobil in 1999.

Stop-IL-TollwayRipoffs

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Aug 12, 2019, 6:29:52 PM8/12/19
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On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 2:18:31 PM UTC-5, John Levine wrote:
> In article <e67efd81-73d0-40ae...@googlegroups.com>,
> Stop-IL-TollwayRipoffs <jgro...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Alaska Vandelizer Exxon is trying to add the brand to Mobil stations around Chicago. Go away ExxScam !
>
> It's a little late. Exxon bought Mobil in 1999.

And some US Residents named Hitler changed their names in the 1940s

jona...@friedel.earth

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Feb 4, 2020, 12:34:46 PM2/4/20
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A few years ago Exxon asked received approval from BP (SOHIO), the last marketer to use a Standard in their name, to retake control of the Esso name. Exxon then requested approval from the courts and was awarded rights to the Standard ESSO name once again.

At the time Exxon said it had no plans to reintroduce the Esso name in the USA.

All that said, Esso (Exxon) has been selling of their stations around the world as the trend seems to be going. As a part of the sale (Ireland for example) they maintain supply of the station for x number of years but give up the management of and marketing of the station.

Seems to me the profits in stations must be far less then it used to be and the risk of a boycott is greatly diminished when the consumer has no idea where the fuel actually comes from.

Will be interesting to see if Exxon ever returns the Esso name to the USA.

rdc

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Feb 10, 2020, 1:45:44 PM2/10/20
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I think a lot of it is predicated on getting rid of leaking UST
liability. I was involved in the transfer of stations in Maryland, CT,
and New York, and from speaking with station operators, it seemed that
the transfer costs depending on the amount of fuel product in the soil
and groundwater, the size of the station, and traffic of the
station--I'm sure there were other factors but that was what I was told.

I am not sure about all of the details, but it appeared that some of
the stations had enough contamination that they were transferred to
another owner either for nothing or with Exxon/Mobil giving the new
owner some cash in exchange for assignment of polluation liability away
from XOM.

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