Street sign colors
Texas Highway Man
I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
--Brian Purcell
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On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Texas Highway Man wrote:
> I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
> What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
> white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
Most street signs in Iowa City are white on green, but dead-end streets
are white on blue.
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Brian Purcell wrote:
<<< I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green. >>>
In Columbus OH, the street signs are white on green. Franklin and Delaware
counites use these colors also. Hilliard OH uses white on blue. Dublin OH uses
white on brown. The Ohio State University uses white on red. And, IIRC,
Pickerington OH has some white on purple signs (because of its location within
Violet Township). Some other suburbs use white on blue also, but I don't
remember which ones.
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Mike Pruett
Texas Highway Man wrote:
>
> I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
> What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
> white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
>
Here's how they stack up in the Baltimore-Washington area:
Baltimore City - white on green , various white on blue or red for
honorary names alongside certain blocks.
Block number on small tab above sign
Baltimore Co. - white on green, white on blue for private roadway, also
black on yellow "NO OUTLET"
(new 6" Helvetica lettered signs sprouting up around the county), no
block numbers
Harford Co. - white on green, white on blue for private; no block
numbers
Howard Co. - white on green, also white on red (private?); some large 6"
Helvetica, no block numbers
Carroll Co. - white on green, black on white for private
York Co., PA - mostly black on white (old-pressed like license plates),
white on green in City of York, red on yellow in town of Red Lion (on PA
74 SE of York) other towns also vary.
Anne Arundel Co. - white on green; for dead ends, white on green with
small bright orange strip along top, block numbers present, and even
route numbers! Black on white in downtown Annapolis, also "formerly
_____ Street" and year the street was laid out; most go back to colonial
times.
Montgomery Co. - mostly white on blue, in one of the FHWA fonts.
Prince George's Co. - mostly white on green
Worcester Co. - white on green, white on blue in Ocean City
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In article <6i0e8e$ja8$4...@hornet.fibr.net>, "Texas Highway Man"
<hiwa...@express-news.net> wrote:
>I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
>What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs
are
>white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
Most of the municipalities in the Appleton, WI area use white on green, the
odd-balls being Menasha (city), white on blue, and Menasha (township), black
on white. Older Neenah (city) signs are black on yellow.
Ashwaubenon, WI (suburban Green Bay) uses white on green for 'normal'
streets and black on yellow for official 'truck routes'.
I have always thought that the City of Minneapolis, MN was VERY interesting,
in that they use a random mix of white on green, white on blue and white on
brown.
I consider the City of Wauwatosa, WI (a Milwaukee suburb-pop about 50k) to
be the most interesting of all. Over the past 10 years or so, they replaced
ALL of their old signs with a neat white on blue design that includes the
city's official seal. The catch --- the seal was challenged a few years ago
by someone from *Illinois* with a little too much time on his hands as
'illegal' in that it contains a Christian cross. The City Council then
'rolled over' in response to the lawsuit, and dropped the cross from the
seal, but not before city crews had installed all of the new street name
signs on their thousands of intersections. To date, the 'old' seals are
still on most if not all of the signs.
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> I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
> What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
> white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
Pittsburgh is white on blue. At most major interestions they also give
you the neighborhood name (Mt. Washington, Shadyside, Oakland,
Bloomfield, etc.)
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Mon Compte wrote in message
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>Brian Purcell wrote:
><<< I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street
signs.
>What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs
are
>white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green. >>>
>
>In Columbus OH, the street signs are white on green. Franklin and Delaware
>counites use these colors also. Hilliard OH uses white on blue. Dublin OH
uses
>white on brown. The Ohio State University uses white on red. And, IIRC,
>Pickerington OH has some white on purple signs (because of its location
within
>Violet Township). Some other suburbs use white on blue also, but I don't
>remember which ones.
>
In Cleveland itself, white on blue (and ONLY the street name, not even the
kind of street: i.e. SUPERIOR for Superior Avenue, or W. 25 for West 25th
Street)
In Indianapolis: Hmmm...currently migrating from black on white to white on
green.
Southport, Indiana: White on red, some changing to white on green
Beech Grove, Indiana: White on brown.
Edinburg, Indiana: Tan/Brown/Black on light grey
Most of the rest of the state is white on green.
Aaron M. Renn
Texas Highway Man wrote in message <6i0e8e$ja8$4...@hornet.fibr.net>...
>I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
>What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs
are
Quick question. Is white on green actually specified by MUTCD?
Indianapolis recently changed their street signs from black on white to
white on green. One of their rationales was MUTCD compliance. There were
many other changes to the signs beyond the color though, so I am not sure if
that had anything to do with it.
Aaron.
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Signalfan
Yes, according to the MUTCD top of page 2D-25, and I quote: "The Street Name
sign should be reflectorized or illuminated. The legend and background shall
be of contrasting colors and should have a white message and border on a green
background."
<BR>>Quick question. Is white on green actually specified by MUTCD?<BR>
>Indianapolis recently changed their street signs from black on white to<BR>
>white on green. One of their rationales was MUTCD compliance. There
>many other changes to the signs beyond the color though, so I am not sure
>that had anything to do with it.<BR>
><BR>
>Aaron.<BR>
<BR>
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>Brian Purcell wrote:
><<< I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street
signs.
>What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs
are
>white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green. >>>
>
>In Columbus OH, the street signs are white on green. Franklin and Delaware
>counites use these colors also. Hilliard OH uses white on blue. Dublin OH
uses
>white on brown. The Ohio State University uses white on red. And, IIRC,
>Pickerington OH has some white on purple signs (because of its location
within
>Violet Township). Some other suburbs use white on blue also, but I don't
>remember which ones.
>
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Up US 23 from you, Delaware city uses white (or grey/silver) on blue.
Ashley (maybe Sunbury and Ostrander as well) uses white on green (for the
newer ones) and black on white (some form of porcelian (sp,?) signs from the
fifties. Morrow Co. (where I live) uses black on white for the county signs
while the townships are a mismash collection of colors (I think Peru
township uses grey on black, while Bennington township uses grey on green).
Also, while Franklin, Delaware, Marion, etc...give the road name, Morrow
doesn't. Morrow Co. uses a square which says Morrow County XXX. I guess
that happens when your county is almost broke.
BTW, if one goes off the beaten path in Columbus you'll find black on white
signs as well.
SJG
Matthew E. Salek
Texas Highway Man wrote:
>
> I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
> What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
> white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
White on green is difinitely the most common. An oddball I know of is
St. Paul (or was South St. Paul?) where I saw white on brown. Rural
Minnesota and Wisconsin seem to use either white on green or balck on
white.
Winona, Minn. used to be balck on white, but switched to white on green
about six years back. The reasons were to come more in line with the
rest of the country, and to have name signs that would reflect at night.
Black on yellow name signs are used for official truck routes.
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> Up US 23 from you, Delaware city uses white (or grey/silver) on blue.
> Ashley (maybe Sunbury and Ostrander as well) uses white on green (for the
> newer ones) and black on white (some form of porcelian (sp,?) signs from the
> fifties. Morrow Co. (where I live) uses black on white for the county signs
> while the townships are a mismash collection of colors (I think Peru
> township uses grey on black, while Bennington township uses grey on green).
> Also, while Franklin, Delaware, Marion, etc...give the road name, Morrow
> doesn't. Morrow Co. uses a square which says Morrow County XXX. I guess
> that happens when your county is almost broke.
I was up in Marion and saw a county road sign, an orange rectangle with
black lettering. I forgot to take my camera along ... :-(
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Kirby's of Fredericton
Matthew E. Salek wrote:
>
> Texas Highway Man wrote:
> >
> > I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
> > What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
> > white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
>
> White on green is difinitely the most common. An oddball I know of is
> St. Paul (or was South St. Paul?) where I saw white on brown. Rural
> Minnesota and Wisconsin seem to use either white on green or balck on
> white.
>
> Winona, Minn. used to be balck on white, but switched to white on green
> about six years back. The reasons were to come more in line with the
> rest of the country, and to have name signs that would reflect at night.
> Black on yellow name signs are used for official truck routes.
>
Fredericton is white on blue, but Halifax, Saint John, Moncton and NBDOT
signs are white on green. Moncton used to be *white on black* until
about 1990, and Fredericton was black on white until the late 1970's.
Also, Fredericton mounts their signs at a 90 degree angle to each other,
like this:
| |
| |
signs -- | |road
-> | | |
--------- --road
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Adam Newman
The only place around Chicago that I can think of that doesn't use white
on green signs is Long Grove, which uses white on grey
Texas Highway Man wrote:
>
> I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
> What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
> white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
>
> --Brian Purcell
> "Texas Highway Man"
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Adam Newman wrote in message <3544EE98...@ripco.com>...
>The only place around Chicago that I can think of that doesn't use white
>on green signs is Long Grove, which uses white on grey
Not for long. The city of Chicago is using a new street sign now that is
white with colored lettering. (The actual color varies by neighborhood).
You can see the new signs in portions of the Loop and Lakeview. The new
signs also have the neighborhood name on them, which is likely to cause lots
of lobbying by real estate people to get their preferred neighborhood name
on the sign. It's a lot more difficult to call a neighborhood "Sheridan
Park" in a real estate listing if the street signs all say "Uptown"
Aaron.
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Matt Walcoff
This is an interesting question, because from what I've seen around
Cleveland the wealthier the suburb, the fancier the sign.
Cleveland itself has white capital letters on blue signs, which are
very easy to read, if not always easy to see.
Middle-class University Heights has similar signs, but the writing is
a bit smaller and the signs are green, I think.
Shaker Heights has black capitals on white, with a black background.
The letters stick out.
Upper-middle-class Beachwood has upper and lower-case letters on
larger, green signs.
Wealthier Orange has large, white wooden signs with fancy lettering
painted on.
Very wealthy Moreland Hills has signs hanging lazily from chains on a
post with a horizontal arm. The signs themselves are unimpressive
black capitals on white or gray.
Steve Riner
Texas Highway Man <hiwa...@express-news.net> wrote in article
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> I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street
signs.
> What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs
are
> white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
Minneapolis has a unique system tied to its former snowplowing pattern.
Snow emergency routes (generally arterials that must be cleared first
following a major snowfall) are signed in blue, east-west streets are
signed in brown and north-south streets in light green. This distinction
was formerly necessary because, in a snow emergency, snow emergency routes
got plowed first, followed by either the north-south or east-west streets.
Why does it matter? No parking during snow emergencies while a street is
being plowed. So, residents have to know where to park until streets are
plowed.
Subsequently, the city has moved to an odd-even system, but the street sign
color coding persists.
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>Quick question. Is white on green actually specified by MUTCD?
if
>
Other changes...the major streets are marked with single-sided aluminum 11"
signs with 9" letters. Formerly, they were two-sided steel 10" signs with
8" letters. All street signs (of the new style) have square corners, as
opposed to rounded ones.
The new signs, for some reason, have either a narrow or wide type face...and
some are misspelled.
Other than that, no changes.
(Also depends on what side of town you are on as to the placement of the new
signs...on the northside, they are placed on both sides, whether the street
is a cross-street, or an end street. On the southside, I suppose we should
be lucky we have street signs at all.)
Adam Newman
Now that I think about it, I did see some of these signs last time I was
in the loop. The color there was purple, if I recall correctly.
Mark Bozanich
Most counties and cities in this part of the country seem to use white
on green for local street name signs. I think that the MUTCD recommends
this color scheme. Spokane still uses black on white. Clark County (SW
Washington) uses black on yellow. Some jurisdictions use one color
scheme for public roads, another for private. Clark County, WA and
Clackamas County, OR use black on white for private roads and streets.
Some jurisdictions, including Lacey, Marysville, and Snohomish County,
are posting historical street or road names in white on brown under the
contemporary name white on green signs.
Mark Bozanich
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On 27 Apr 1998 22:40:33 GMT, markrob...@tezcat.com (Mark Roberts)
wrote:
Around here it's pretty boring-Just a generic white on green sign for
city streets. The State 'o' MD posts street signs, too-white on green
single sided plates-mostly on the Stop sign Post of the intercepted
road. These are not always reflective of reality-Accodring to the
state, I live on "Mount Savage Road". My Mailing address is "North
Water Street", tho.
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In article <slrn6ka2b1.10i....@huitzilo.tezcat.com>,
Mark Roberts <markrob...@tezcat.com> wrote:
>Texas Highway Man <hiwa...@express-news.net> had written:
>| I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
>| What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
>| white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
>
>on white.
Los Angeles City & County, Santa Monica: white on blue
Burbank, Culver City: white on green
Glendale: black on white
Simi Valley: Don't remember, but it has the really ugly geometric city
logo of two hills and a valley on it
Thousand Jokes^H^H^H^H^HOaks: yellow on brown
Santa Barbara: white on brown
Sacramento: green on white
Sacramento County: black on white, "SACRAMENTO COUNTY" in small letters
Roseville: white on green, but going to new MUTCD standard white on green
Placer County: white on green, "PLACER COUNTY" in small letters
Sutter County: white on green, "SUTTER COUNTY" in small letters
Folsom: green on white, "CITY OF FOLSOM" in small letters
>I have seen white on *red* in two places -- Bellaire, Texas, and
>Okmulgee, Oklahoma.
Add Cherry Creek Village, outside Denver.
Many Denver area cities and counties use white on green. Exceptions are
Cherry Creek Village and I think Arvada, Wheat Ridge and Saudi Aurora.
Later,
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In article <3544EE98...@ripco.com>, Adam Newman <c...@ripco.com> wrote:
>The only place around Chicago that I can think of that doesn't use white
>on green signs is Long Grove, which uses white on grey
Suburban Norridge uses signs of the same 'style' as the City of Chicago, but
they are white on brown.
Michael G. Koerner
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In article <6i2v9f$s...@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu>, mwal...@wam.umd.edu (Matt
Walcoff) wrote:
>This is an interesting question, because from what I've seen around
>Cleveland the wealthier the suburb, the fancier the sign.
>
>Cleveland itself has white capital letters on blue signs, which are
>very easy to read, if not always easy to see.
>
>Middle-class University Heights has similar signs, but the writing is
>a bit smaller and the signs are green, I think.
>
>Shaker Heights has black capitals on white, with a black background.
>The letters stick out.
>
>Upper-middle-class Beachwood has upper and lower-case letters on
>larger, green signs.
>
>Wealthier Orange has large, white wooden signs with fancy lettering
>painted on.
>
>Very wealthy Moreland Hills has signs hanging lazily from chains on a
>post with a horizontal arm. The signs themselves are unimpressive
>black capitals on white or gray.
The most *unique* signs I know of are in Fox Point, WI (an upper-end
Milwaukee suburb). They are a small white letter on dark brown design
mounted by the end from a post---with a fox head 'cut-out' protruding from
the end away from the post.
Dave Schul
"Texas Highway Man" <hiwa...@express-news.net> wrote:
>I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
>What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
>white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
In Lawrence, KS, public streets are white on green, and private
streets are white on brown.
Some of the more interesting ones I've seen recently are in Valentine,
Nebraska: white on red (naturally) with a heart at the end.
Dave Schul
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On 27 Apr 1998 15:27:45 GMT, sign...@aol.com (Signalfan) wrote:
>Yes, according to the MUTCD top of page 2D-25, and I quote: "The Street Name
>sign should be reflectorized or illuminated. The legend and background shall
>be of contrasting colors and should have a white message and border on a green
>background."
Signs at signaled intersections in Phoenix (and most of the suburbs)
do this. They were originally attached to the right-hand traffic
signal post, but are new installations put them out on the arm near
the signal head(s). Neighborhood signs are black text on white in
Phoenix, but vary in the suburbs.
Tempe gets my vote for most visible signs. Signaled intersections
have a huge illuminated panel indicating the street name and block
numbers. The text is white on green, and they are backlit at night.
Pardon my crude ASCII art:
+===+=======+===+============+===+
| O | | O | University | |
| O | | O | Drive | |
| O | | O | | |
+===+=======+===+============+===+
| |
| |
They're modular units, and yes, the street name really is that big in
relation to the signal heads. (The block numbers are in a smaller font
underneath.) I've been in towns that still only mark major
intersections with those itty-bitty crossroads signs (only used for
neighborhoods here).
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Rich Carlson, N9JIG
In article <slrn6ka2ip.10i....@huitzilo.tezcat.com>,
markrob...@tezcat.com (Mark Roberts) wrote:
> Aaron M. Renn <ar...@urbanophile.com> had written:
> | Adam Newman wrote in message <3544EE98...@ripco.com>...
> | >The only place around Chicago that I can think of that doesn't use white
> | >on green signs is Long Grove, which uses white on grey
> |
> | Not for long. The city of Chicago is using a new street sign now that is
> | white with colored lettering. (The actual color varies by neighborhood).
Winnetka uses black on white, Kenilworth uses custom white on black.
Park Ridge and Western Springs use concrete poles with the street name on a
vertical white on green sign. Older street sign poles in Park Ridge had
the name of the street embossed in the concrete pole, and sometimes the
metal sign comes off or does not extend to cover the old embossed name
fully.
Some tows in eastern DuPage county also use cement poles, some are painted
white with black letering.
Years ago Chicago used black on yellow street signs. I always thought they
were more visible than the current white on green, but I guess they weren't
reflective.
>
> You see this on Addison near Wrigley Field on the cross-street
> signs, but I haven't seen this elsewhere. The font is also
> different -- it's Frutiger 57, not your standard boring highway
> font. (The only other roads I know of in the U.S. that use Frutiger
> on signs are the access roads for Hartsfield Airport in Atlanta.)
>
> | You can see the new signs in portions of the Loop and Lakeview. The new
> | signs also have the neighborhood name on them, which is likely to cause lots
> | of lobbying by real estate people to get their preferred neighborhood name
> | on the sign. It's a lot more difficult to call a neighborhood "Sheridan
> | Park" in a real estate listing if the street signs all say "Uptown"
>
> Not if you're unobservant, which a surprising number of people
> are.
>
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Dave Schul wrote:
>
> "Texas Highway Man" <hiwa...@express-news.net> wrote:
>
> >I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
> >What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
> >white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
>
> In Lawrence, KS, public streets are white on green, and private
> streets are white on brown.
>
> Some of the more interesting ones I've seen recently are in Valentine,
> Nebraska: white on red (naturally) with a heart at the end.
>
Montreal has its city crest in red at one end of the sign. The name is
black, in an Arial-style font, on a white background. Grand Bay, New
Brunswick uses the same setup, only that its street names are blue and
in the same font used to mark towns on the RMcN road atlas. Most Maine
towns I've been to usev either white on green or black on white.
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Stephen A. Hill
mwal...@wam.umd.edu (Matt Walcoff) wrote:
>Shaker Heights has black capitals on white, with a black background.
>The letters stick out.
The old signs are embossed (and are expensive). Newer ones are simply
black lettering on white reflective. But Shaker has a few
white-on-green signs, I guess to see about converting to the MUTCD
standard.
Cleveland Heights used to have black-on-white signs, but all have been
replaced with white-on-green, again, I presume, per MUTCD.
Question: other than Indianapolis which has already been mentioned,
have other cities converted to white-on-green to conform to MUTCD?
Steve Hill
An Ohio Highways Person
Stephen A. Hill
In Kent, Ohio, where I grew up in the '50's the street signs were
concrete posts with flat vertical sides mounted in the ground. The
street names were formed into the sides of the posts. Higher posts
were needed for longer names. In the '60's, the posts started to
degrade, and the names became harder to read, so the posts were
painted, with the street name lettering in a different color. I think
they were painted yellow. Now all of the posts have been removed and
replaced with standard horizontal signs.
Paul Schlichtman
Arlington, Massachusetts uses a crappy white-on-green, when the town
decides to post the sign. Some historic signs are white on blue. Most
of the time the signs are nonexistant. To see our signs (those that
exist) see:
http://gseweb.harvard.edu/TIEWeb/STUDENTS/DOCTORAL/schlicpa/signs.html
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James D. Umbach
The cat walked across "Texas Highway Man"
<hiwa...@express-news.net>'s keyboard and wrote:
>I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
>What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
>white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
Unincorporated Sacramento County, California uses black-on-white. At
least three cities within the county (Folsom, Galt, Sacramento) use
white-on-green. I've never been to Isleton so I can't say what it
uses. The other city, Citrus Heights, also uses black-on-white signs
identical to the county ones. There was talk of making
green-on-orange signs (The city colors,) but the contrast wasn't right
and they were too hard to read.
James D. Umbach | apostle (at) mother.com
Citrus Heights, California | my web site: http://www.mother.com/~apostle
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Ray Mullins
In article <6i8rir$7t3$3...@your.mother.com>,
James D. Umbach <apo...@mail.mother.com> wrote:
>The cat walked across "Texas Highway Man"
><hiwa...@express-news.net>'s keyboard and wrote:
>
>>I'm guessing that white on green is the most common color for street signs.
>>What other colors are popular? In the City of San Antonio, street signs are
>>white on blue. Most of the suburbs are white on green.
>
>Unincorporated Sacramento County, California uses black-on-white. At
>least three cities within the county (Folsom, Galt, Sacramento) use
>white-on-green. I've never been to Isleton so I can't say what it
>uses. The other city, Citrus Heights, also uses black-on-white signs
>identical to the county ones. There was talk of making
>green-on-orange signs (The city colors,) but the contrast wasn't right
>and they were too hard to read.
>
take years to replace the Sacramento County signs anyway...
Ray Mullins
In article <35492F...@ce.uta.edu>,
Jim Williams <jimwi...@ce.uta.edu> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>Austin, Texas, used to use white on burnt orange (UT's colors) citywide
>until about 20 years ago when the traffic engineer changed the colors to
>white on green. This particular traffic engineer was a graduate of
>Texas A&M. Of course, there had been a few white on greens in the newer
>areas of Austin before the change, and the signs around the UT campus
>are still white on burnt orange.
What? A good Aggie actually go work in Austin? <g>
I'm suprised he didn't try to sneak in white on maroon.
Wondering if Arlington should change to white on green instead of white on blue,
nwp...@student.berklee.edu
In Rochester NY they are white on blue; elsewhere in Monroe County they're
white on green except the town of Irondequoit and village of Pittsford which
use black on white.
In Rochester, you will occasionally see the older style, which shows the name
of the intersecting street in the main panel, and the name of the street
you're on now in a small oval above it. The color is white (usually rusted) on
dark blue.
A teacher of mine once marvelled at my noticing that the sign were different
colors once you cross the city line.
NP
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Matt Walcoff wrote in message <6ib2l7$8...@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu>...
>> snip all Steve Hill's post (sorry
>You can even still see a few on county roads in Cuyahoga County. I
>seem to remember one on SOM Center Road (at South Woodland?).
>
>Matt
Now you sure that those posts are concrete and not wood? There are plenty
of road sign posts around, but they're mostly wooden now. Including those
in Orange and in the Chagrin Rec. area as well (if memory from 5-7 years ago
is right).
BTW, the towns of Cardington, Mt. Gilead, Bucyrus, and Oceola (as well as
Marion, Crawford, and Wyandot Co.) all have white on green street signs. I
also saw a Business loop 30 sign in downtown Bucyrus. The 30 was white, the
shield is green and the rest of the background is white. West of Bucyrus,
old 30 is designated Lincoln highway by Crawford Co. officials as well.
All this found out in 4 1/2 hours of riding around on a delivery truck for
my employer. Maybe I should ask for a department transfer.
SJG
Fmtyner
In article <6ib2l7$8...@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu>, mwal...@wam.umd.edu (Matt
Walcoff) writes:
>This is not unusual in Ohio at all. You still see many street-name
>posts, usually pretty worn, in residential neighborhoods of Warren.
>You can even still see a few on county roads in Cuyahoga County. I
>seem to remember one on SOM Center Road (at South Woodland?).
>
I remember seeing these in Madison County, MS and in Canton in the 70's. They
were white with black letters. Most of these are gone.
In Tunica County, MS, I saw tall yellow poles with black letters. These were
new--obviously put there since the new roads were built to the casinos. They
looked like plastic PVC pipe, but I'm not sure what they were made of.
Most counties in Mississippi use standard green signs. At least 3 use the
pentagon for ALL county roads. (Many counties number, not name, roads, but
most of these use small green signs.) Some use other colors--like white on
maroon in Oktibbeha County.
In counties, navigating by road names can be difficult. Normally, signs are
only placed for the minor road. Also, only the "T" leg of a "T" intersection
is named. Add that to the fact that some neglect to place signs at all. But
that's progress compared to the days when most roads had no names.
Fred Tyner
Canton, MS
Ralph Herman
OABR76OT97 wrote in message
<199805260045...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>On April 27, 1998, sign...@aol.com writes,
>
>>Yes, according to the MUTCD top of page 2D-25, and I quote:
>>"The Street Name sign should be reflectorized or illuminated.
>>The legend and background shall be of contrasting colors >and should have
a
>white message and border on a
>>green background."
>>
>>>Quick question. Is white on green actually specified by MUTCD?
>
Check your definitions in the front of MUTCD for "may", "should" and
"shall"....
The key is "should"...should have a white message and border on a green
background... it is a suggestion.
If it said "shall"...shall have a white message and border on a green
background... it is a requirement.
BTW, Caltrans and California cities use the California Traffic Manual as
their "bible", not the Fed MUTCD...unfortunately.
Ralph
OABR76OT97
On April 27, 1998, sign...@aol.com writes,
>Yes, according to the MUTCD top of page 2D-25, and I quote:
>"The Street Name sign should be reflectorized or illuminated.
>The legend and background shall be of contrasting colors >and should have a
white message and border on a
>green background."
>
>>Quick question. Is white on green actually specified by MUTCD?
Around where I live, cities have combinations like white on green (Oakland),
white on brown (much of Berkeley), black on white (other sections of Berkeley),
and possibly others.
Berkeley has recently put up prominent cross-street signs on major streets, big
signs high above the regular ones. They include street name and block number,
and in an un-MUTCD-like fashion, they are gold on blue, for some reason. The
contrast is good, and those are the Cal colors, after all, but I can't think of
any other reasons.
Henry Chang