"Highway" or "Route"
mwalcoff
way 401" rather than "Route 401," especially since using the word
"route" would give them one less thing to have to translate into
French.
Anyway, here's a quick, two-question survey:
1) In your state, province or whatever, do they refer to roads as "High-
way 55" or "Route 55"?
2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
"Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
Please refrain from comments about the real Route or Highway 55 in your
location or miles vs. kilometers :).
Matt
Jeff Kitsko
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> I was kind of surprised to find that Ontario uses the terminology "High-
> way 401" rather than "Route 401," especially since using the word
> "route" would give them one less thing to have to translate into
> French.
>
> Anyway, here's a quick, two-question survey:
>
> 1) In your state, province or whatever, do they refer to roads as "High-
> way 55" or "Route 55"?
In Pennsylvania, "route" is mostly used.
> 2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
> "Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
"Take 55 for 10 miles," but really it would be "Take route 55 for 10 miles."
--
Jeff Kitsko
Pennsylvania Highways: http://www.pahighways.com/
Pittsburgh Highways: http://www.pahighways.com/pghhwys/
Philadelphia Highways: http://www.pahighways.com/phlhwys/
Presnwap
beer in other parts of the country; backing up on interstates, etc.) People
refer to every single freeway here and elsewhere since we only have one 2di
as "the I-10". "Ohhh take the I-10 to Mobile and take it ["the" I-10] to
Montgomery where you'll..." People here think other cities are weird
because you can't buy alcohol on Sundays; heck, you can walk down the street
with an open container! To go even further off topic, Louisiana doesn't
care about drinking and driving! We got drive-thru daquiri shops. (They
just can't hand you the drink with the straw in it.) Safety first!!!!
Sorry for getting off-topic.
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Ben Kiene
mwalcoff wrote:
"Route" is seldom used in Colorado. "Highway" or just the highway number
alone are most commonly used. The government documents I've seen mentioning
state highways always call them "State Highways" or use the abbreviation
"SH". I've never heard "the" put in front of any road numbers here, which
is surprising given the large number of Californians (don't they usually say
"the 10" or "the 405"?) who've moved here.
Ben Kiene
Michael G. Koerner
It is EXCLUSIVELY 'highway' here in Wisconsin. Nearly every numbered or
lettered road is 'Highway (xx)'. Interestingly, though, locals here in
the Appleton area ALWAYS refer to the WI 441 freeway as simply
"Four-forty-one". The word 'highway' is often omitted in casual
conversation for other highways, too, but it is not prevalent.
Interstates are spoken as "Eye-(xx)". Milwaukeeans will often omit the
'Eye' part, though.
BTW, the EASIEST way to tell the Illinoisian from a bunch of
Wisconsinites in a casual group is that the Illinoisian will refer to
them as 'Routes' (pronounced as 'Rout').
--
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Regards,
Michael G. Koerner
Appleton, WI
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BD
In Chicago, and most of the state of Illinois I gather, most of the time
Interstates are referred to as "Interstate xx" or "I-xx" or more importantly
by their name "The Eisenhowe Expressway" or "The Ike", however U.S. and
Illinois state routes are usually referred to as "Route xx." On BGS advance
mile signange IDOT refers to U.S. routes as either "U.S. Route xx" or "U.S.
xx," while the same signage refers to Illinois state routes as "Illinois
xx."
In Indiana, Hoosiers refer to Interstates as "I-xx" or "Interstate xx," U.S.
routes are referred to as "Route xx" and Indiana state roads are either
referred to as "Route xx" or "State road xx." INDOT usually referrs to them
on BGS advance mileage signage as "I-xx", "U.S. xx" and "S.R. xx"
respectively.
For most of the cases above it is appropos to refer to the routes simply by
their number: "Take 65 for 10 miles" or "Take 52 when it splits from 41."
Now here in Missouri, they do things backwards. All roads here are referred
to as "Highway xx" whether it be an interstate, a U.S. route, a state route,
or one of the lettered secondary state routes. Simply put, I-70 is referred
to as "Highway 70", I-64 is referred to as "Highway 40" (Go figure!), MO 370
is referred to as "Highway 370" and SDR K is referred to as "Highway K." On
newer BGS signage going up in the state, advance mileage signs refer to
everything as "Route I-70", "Rtes I-64, 40 & 61", or "Routes 364 & D." On
some of them they add a "JCT" to produce "JCT Rte I-270" or "JCT Route
I-70", no rhyme nor reason for when they add a "JCT" on those BGS's.
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robert cruickshank
mwalcoff wrote:
>
> I was kind of surprised to find that Ontario uses the terminology "High-
> way 401" rather than "Route 401," especially since using the word
> "route" would give them one less thing to have to translate into
> French.
>
> Anyway, here's a quick, two-question survey:
>
> 1) In your state, province or whatever, do they refer to roads as "High-
> way 55" or "Route 55"?
Officially, Caltrans refers to all numbered roads in California as
"routes".
In the Bay Area, I hear "highway" a lot. Especially from older folk who
have lived a while in the Bay Area. One such friend consistently
referred to the interstate serving his home of Vallejo as "Highway 80".
And if it's not "highway", they'll just refer to the route number alone:
"Take 80 north to 37 west..." It's a point of Bay Area pride that they
don't do the LA thing and call a freeway "the 80".
> 2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
> "Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
Of course, most people know that here in Southern California, freeways
get definite articles. You don't much hear people other than traffic
reporters refer to freeways by their given names (San Diego Freeway,
Hollywood Freeway), it's always "the 405", "the 101", and yes, "the 55".
> Please refrain from comments about the real Route or Highway 55 in your
> location or miles vs. kilometers :).
Sorry. Take THE 55 (aka route 55) for 10 miles and, about an hour later,
you'll be in Newport Beach. ;)
--
Robert I. Cruickshank
roadgeek, historian, progressive
Luke W.
Australia at a national level. We have both National Highways AND routes,
but people more often say "Highway 1" or whatever, even if it's a National
Route.
In terms of states... we're more likely to refer to roads by their names
rather than numbers, at least in New South Wales, but if anything we would
say "Route xx" instead of State Route. (In the states with European
numbering are simply referred to as the C123, for example.)
--
-- Luke Wright
Webmaster of M-Zero (Australian Roads) -- http://mzero.cjb.net/
(currently down)
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emeier
> In Indiana, Hoosiers refer to Interstates as "I-xx" or "Interstate xx," U.S.
> routes are referred to as "Route xx" and Indiana state roads are either
> referred to as "Route xx" or "State road xx." INDOT usually referrs to them
> on BGS advance mileage signage as "I-xx", "U.S. xx" and "S.R. xx"
> respectively.
>
Indiana. Around South Bend all state roads are called just that:
"State Road 23"
But go one county west to LaPorte and US and Ind roads are both called
highways "Highway 20" and "Highway 212" for US 20 and IND 212.
I think some state roads in Lake County are called State Routes (must
be an Illinois influence). I've never heard anyone refer to I-94/80
as the Borman. Its simply "80/94". However the Indiana Toll Road is
always the "Toll Road" and not "90" or "80/90"
They also use the term "highway" down around New
Albany/Clarksville/Jeffersonville
emeier
Ron Newman
mwal...@onecom.com (mwalcoff) wrote:
> 1) In your state, province or whatever, do they refer to roads as "High-
> way 55" or "Route 55"?
Always "Route 28", never "Highway 28", in Massachusetts.
> 2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
> "Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
You might say "take 28" or "take route 28", but you'd never say
"take the 28".
--
Ron Newman rne...@thecia.net
http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/
Pete from Boston
> I was kind of surprised to find that Ontario uses the terminology "High-
> way 401" rather than "Route 401," especially since using the word
> "route" would give them one less thing to have to translate into
> French.
>
> Anyway, here's a quick, two-question survey:
>
> 1) In your state, province or whatever, do they refer to roads as "High-
> way 55" or "Route 55"?
>
> 2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
> "Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
1. When I lived in NJ, everything was "route." Never would you hear
"Interstate 80," "US 1," or anything. It's just "route 17, route 3,
route 80, route 1." The only variation was a total absence of the
modifier, which was common too; e.g. "287" or "46." "Highway"? Never
used as a modifier in my experience.
Here in Mass., it's pretty much the same, although it seems selective.
For example, you'd always say "Route 2" or "Route 9." Those are
givens. But I've always heard "1A," and cannot recall hearing "Route
1A." Same with 128. Interstates you're not likely to hear any modifier
with.
2. I lived with a guy from California one semester at UMass, and,
being largely unaware of anything beyond Albany at the time, cringed
each time he mentioned taking "the 91." I've lived in the northeast my
whole life and never heard this from a local. Only named highways
(sometimes) get this. Like, "the Mass Pike," but never "the Storrow
Drive."
I love linguistics, though, and love to consider the different
connotation that seems to bring to my eastern ears. "The 91" refers to
an inanimate concrete object in my perception, while simply "91"
connotes a place, or -- if you will -- an occurrence, an ongoing event
almost.
BD
"emeier" <emei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > In Indiana, Hoosiers refer to Interstates as "I-xx" or "Interstate xx,"
U.S.
> > routes are referred to as "Route xx" and Indiana state roads are either
> > referred to as "Route xx" or "State road xx." INDOT usually referrs to
them
> > on BGS advance mileage signage as "I-xx", "U.S. xx" and "S.R. xx"
> > respectively.
> >
> I've heard highways refered to several ways in diffent regions in
> Indiana. Around South Bend all state roads are called just that:
> "State Road 23"
>
I think the majority of the state uses "State Road XX." Just about
everywhere I've been in the state, and I've been to just about all of
it--heck I grew up there--the predominent vernacular is "State Road XX"
> But go one county west to LaPorte and US and Ind roads are both called
> highways "Highway 20" and "Highway 212" for US 20 and IND 212.
>
> I think some state roads in Lake County are called State Routes (must
> be an Illinois influence). I've never heard anyone refer to I-94/80
> as the Borman. Its simply "80/94". However the Indiana Toll Road is
> always the "Toll Road" and not "90" or "80/90"
>
I guess you don't listen to traffic reports or talk to people up in "Da
Region." Many times does Shadow Traffic and Metro Traffic refer to 80/94 as
"The Borman." I grew up a stones throw away from the road and many people I
associated with when I grew up referred to the road as "The Borman." Irony
was that I had a friend who's father was named Frank Borman and my friend
always boasted that the highway was named after his father.
Michael King
20 or "Route" 30.
Once in a great while, you might hear "State Route", but not often at all.
Matter of fact the only road that I recall hearing was for IN 152 (Indpls.
Blvd. in Hammond).
Here in Georgia, you'll hear of Route 5 (GA 5) & Route 6 (GA 6), but GA 400
is ALWAYS referred to as Georgia 400.
M
"emeier" <emei...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
Kenny Dancy
> way 401" rather than "Route 401," especially since using the word
> "route" would give them one less thing to have to translate into
> French.
>
> Anyway, here's a quick, two-question survey:
>
> 1) In your state, province or whatever, do they refer to roads as "High-
> way 55" or "Route 55"?
the VA/NC border seems to be the dividing line for Route vs Highway. VA
uses Route for state, US and Interstates. In NC, I have seen the older
white wooden street signs that use the word route in them as in "TO route
xx, 2 miles", but highway is almost always used.
>
> 2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
> "Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
Take Route 55 for 10 miles
N.W.Perry
"Ron Newman" <rne...@thecia.net> wrote in message
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> In article <820fd90d.01072...@posting.google.com>,
> mwal...@onecom.com (mwalcoff) wrote:
>
> > 1) In your state, province or whatever, do they refer to roads as "High-
> > way 55" or "Route 55"?
>
> Always "Route 28", never "Highway 28", in Massachusetts.
Also, "Route 95", never "I-95". Also, "Route 128", never "Route 95" for the
Yankee Division Highway.
>
> > 2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
> > "Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
>
> You might say "take 28" or "take route 28", but you'd never say
> "take the 28".
I'd avoid either altogether, opting for blow-by-blow directions. Following
marked routes in Massachusetts is hazardous.
N.W.Perry
1) "Route 441" or "Route 104" or "Route 390" in speech and non-official
writing. In casual speech, "route" is usually omitted. "Take 63 to 20A..."
or "Get off 390 at Ridge." (Exit numbers are rarely used in conversation,
except by me.) For Interstates, the above usually applies, but you will also
sometimes hear "I-81" or "I-90", though not usually for 3dis. NYSTA marks
overpasses with "Route 88", "Route 11", but "I-81".
In my area, a big multiplex is Us 20 and NY 5. This is called "Routes 5 and
20" or simply "Fiventwenny". I don't know of other overlaps that are so
called, usually the major or straight-through route is chosen.
A pet peeve I have is referring to "route 19 north" when you don't mean
northbound but rather north of an assumed starting point. An ad might say
that the Tops supermarket in Warsaw is on "route 19 north". It's actually on
the SB side, but is simply north of the village. But what if you're in
Wyoming? It's south of that village, but you're still likely to be reading a
Warsaw publication with that ad.
2) The definite article is *never* used for numbered routes.
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PRDem3
>way 55" or "Route 55"?
>
In Illinois, I would say neither are used. We just would say "55". Such as,
"Yeah, 55 was real busy today." But "route" is probably used more often.
>2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
>"Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
"Take 55 for 10 miles". I noticed they say "the 55" in LA. Though I've never
been to California, just from TV shows that are set in LA I've heard them say,
"Take the 105 to the 110 to the 101."
Kevin Olmstead
goes for 14, 414, 514, 220, 199, 187, 467, 706, 367, et al.
Strange as it sounds, about half of the people here take "state Route
1055" rather than "Battle Creek Road" I guess that's because some of
those farm-to-market roads change names when they cross municipal
lines
Kevin Olmstead
Stadium (before it was renamed after that egomaniac owner guy. What's
his name again?) I can assure you that on a given autumn Sunday in
Orchard Park, NY, you can walk down the street with an open container
and a cop looking right at you and he'll just wave you across the
street.
Scott Murdock
40". Primarily "highway" is the word used, but more often neither word
is used...
For the interstates, it's alwayas "I-29" or "I-670" in writing, but in
everyday speech the "I-" prefix is dropped and people just say "435 and
Gregory" or "take 35 south to 87th".
For the US routes, it's usually "Highway 40", "U.S. 50", or "Hwy. 71" in
writing, but in everyday speech the order gets reversed and people say
"40 highway" or "Old 56 highway". On the US highays the word "highway"
is seldom dropped in speech.
For the state routes, it depends in the side of the state line. For
Kansas state highways people say "K-10" (kay ten) or "K-7" (kay seven).
For Missouri state highways no distinction between US and state gets
made, and people simply say "7 highway" or "350 highway". 7 and 350
are two examples where the "highway" suffix is virtually always included
in speech, but some other highways are more often heard with the
"highway" portion dropped, and people just say "291" or "152".
Missouri's supplemental routes, at least around here, have a more
complicated set of "rules". If it's a single letter such as route Z or
route D, the common practice is to just say the letter without the word
"highway". If it's two letters that are different, such as RA, the
common practice is to pronounce both letters separately without the word
"highway". However, if both letters are the name and they are vowels,
such as AA or OO, you would pronounce both letters separately (and
optionally follow it with "highway") when refering to a road you are not
intimately familiar with. If you are intimately familiar with the road
and the road name is AA, EE, II, or OO (but never with UU) you would say
the word "double" followed by the letter and then optionally add
"highway". ("Double A" or "Double A Highway".) If the letters are the
same and are consonants, however, you always never heard the "double"
variation used and people just say "BB" or "BB Highway".
-Scott-
Dan Garnell
> way 401" rather than "Route 401," especially since using the word
> "route" would give them one less thing to have to translate into
> French.
>
> Anyway, here's a quick, two-question survey:
>
> 1) In your state, province or whatever, do they refer to roads as "High-
> way 55" or "Route 55"?
>
> 2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
> "Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
>
There is only one terminology that I am familar with in Michigan:
"M-55."
No Rte-zz, no Hwy-zz; just M-zz.
With respect to Ohio, I am most familiar with "Route 55", especially
in directions from Toledo to Cedar Point, as in "take Route 2..."
Dan Garnell
djg...@yahoo.com
Abanico De Caminos
> way 401" rather than "Route 401," especially since using the word
> "route" would give them one less thing to have to translate into
> French.
That's probably why they use it. If they use "route" people will think
they're Quebecois, and English-speaking areas and French-speaking
areas never get along for no reason.
>
> Anyway, here's a quick, two-question survey:
>
> 1) In your state, province or whatever, do they refer to roads as "High-
> way 55" or "Route 55"?
>
> 2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
> "Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
>
> Please refrain from comments about the real Route or Highway 55 in your
> location or miles vs. kilometers :).
Usually if it's two digits, Highway 36 or just 36. (Grenada, MS uses
Number 7 and Number 8, apparently, but in the three times I've been
there I've never talked to anybody there.) Three-digit roads are
sometimes referred to by number, but they're usually referred to by
either official or colloquial names. For example, in my county, MS336
is "Turnpike Road", MS345 is "Cherry Creek Road", and MS342 is "Black
Zion Road". However, MS341 is called "Highway 341". I know that the
road officially named Thaxton Road here is often called Hurricane
Road, but the road at its north end, MS346, is officially called
Hurricane Road. I have no idea what people call 346.
Here, you usually don't use "miles". You usually say "go until this
landmark and turn left, then go a short ways (short ways = at least 15
miles :-) ) until where this landmark USED to be...".
Sorry if I got off-topic.
>
> Matt
Michael King
Where did you grow up/go to school?
I grew up in Gary and came out of Roosevelt in '80...
M
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James Lin
only used by Southern California transplants.)
In Southern California, you say "the 101" (or "the Hollywood" :) ).
AFAIK, the only people who use "Route" in California are Caltrans engineers
in written documents.
- Jim
--
James Lin
jl...@ugcs.caltech.edu
Ron Newman
<9jpm73$2ndc$1...@node21.cwnet.roc.gblx.net>, "N.W.Perry" stated...
>
>> Always "Route 28", never "Highway 28", in Massachusetts.
>
>Also, "Route 95", never "I-95".
I've heard people say "I-95", meaning the parts north and south of
Route 128, not the part shared with it.
On the other hand, nobody says "I-90". It's "the Pike" or "the Mass Pike"
or "the Turnpike".
>> You might say "take 28" or "take route 28", but you'd never say
>> "take the 28".
>
>I'd avoid either altogether, opting for blow-by-blow directions. Following
>marked routes in Massachusetts is hazardous.
I'd never try to follow 28 (a good example) in the Boston metro area,
but signing is pretty good once you get outside cities. You could easily
drive Route 2 from Alewife in Cambridge to the NY state line without
making any wrong turns.
--
Ron Newman rne...@thecia.net
http://www2.thecia.net/users/rnewman/home.html
Jason L. Bennett
>
> For New York:
>
> 1) "Route 441" or "Route 104" or "Route 390" in speech and non-official
> writing. In casual speech, "route" is usually omitted. "Take 63 to 20A..."
> or "Get off 390 at Ridge." (Exit numbers are rarely used in conversation,
> except by me.) For Interstates, the above usually applies, but you will also
> sometimes hear "I-81" or "I-90", though not usually for 3dis. NYSTA marks
> overpasses with "Route 88", "Route 11", but "I-81".
Locals will call the Thruway by that name, and not use it's numbers.
> In my area, a big multiplex is Us 20 and NY 5. This is called "Routes 5 and
> 20" or simply "Fiventwenny". I don't know of other overlaps that are so
> called, usually the major or straight-through route is chosen.
We've got NY 5-8-12 here in Utica. Sometimes we call it "the
Arterial", other times "five eight & twelve".
Then there's NY 26-46-49-69 in Rome. It's never called by the
numbers, just by it's name "Erie Blvd."
> A pet peeve I have is referring to "route 19 north" when you don't mean
> northbound but rather north of an assumed starting point. An ad might say
> that the Tops supermarket in Warsaw is on "route 19 north". It's actually on
> the SB side, but is simply north of the village. But what if you're in
> Wyoming? It's south of that village, but you're still likely to be reading a
> Warsaw publication with that ad.
Also, some advertisers may say "Route 19N". As if there's a NY 19N!
Jason L. Bennett
Oriskany, NY
--
When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire
Department usually uses water.
Jason L. Bennett
>
> "mwalcoff" <mwal...@onecom.com> wrote in message
> news:820fd90d.01072...@posting.google.com...
> > I was kind of surprised to find that Ontario uses the terminology "High-
> > way 401" rather than "Route 401," especially since using the word
> > "route" would give them one less thing to have to translate into
> > French.
> >
> > Anyway, here's a quick, two-question survey:
> >
> > 1) In your state, province or whatever, do they refer to roads as "High-
> > way 55" or "Route 55"?
>
> In Pennsylvania, "route" is mostly used.
>
> > 2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
> > "Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
>
> "Take 55 for 10 miles," but really it would be "Take route 55 for 10 miles."
At least in northwestern PA, one hardly ever uses "Route xx". Rather,
you'd be given it's name. Such as, "Take Duke Center Road..." versus
"Take Route 546...".
Robert Cote
"James Lin" <jl...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
> In Northern California, you say either "101" or "Highway 101". ("The 80" is
> only used by Southern California transplants.)
>
> In Southern California, you say "the 101" (or "the Hollywood" :) ).
"The Hollywood Freeway." Except whne the 101 is the "Ventura
Freeway." In either case the variants are; "101 southbound at Canoga"
or "Hollywood NB at the 10" but never just"the Hollywood "
> AFAIK, the only people who use "Route" in California are Caltrans engineers
> in written documents.
I've often heard "California Route One; PCH" but you are correct for
the other "99" percent including the aforementined "101." ;-)
James Lin
news:Xt087.1255$ou4.2...@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net...
> In article <9jq2j4$u9r$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
> "James Lin" <jl...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
>
> > In Southern California, you say "the 101" (or "the Hollywood" :) ).
>
> "The Hollywood Freeway." Except whne the 101 is the "Ventura
> Freeway." In either case the variants are; "101 southbound at Canoga"
> or "Hollywood NB at the 10" but never just"the Hollywood "
Is "Freeway" ever omitted for other freeways, like the Santa Monica or San
Bernardino Freeways?
> I've often heard "California Route One; PCH" but you are correct for
> the other "99" percent including the aforementined "101." ;-)
:) And BTW (not necessarily directed to just you, Robert), no one in
Northern California knows what "PCH" is, but everyone knows "Highway 1."
A Gilson
hear "Jonestown Road," outside of Harrisburg, referred to by that name more
than by Route 22. Of course, I think that when routes like 22 and 322 go all
over the place, from highway to suburban street... the streets are referred
to more by their name than their number.
Adam Gilson
gils...@etown.edu
Robert Cote
"James Lin" <jl...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
> "Robert Cote" <tech...@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:Xt087.1255$ou4.2...@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net...
> > In article <9jq2j4$u9r$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
> > "James Lin" <jl...@ugcs.caltech.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > In Southern California, you say "the 101" (or "the Hollywood" :) ).
> >
> > "The Hollywood Freeway." Except whne the 101 is the "Ventura
> > Freeway." In either case the variants are; "101 southbound at Canoga"
> > or "Hollywood NB at the 10" but never just"the Hollywood "
>
> Is "Freeway" ever omitted for other freeways, like the Santa Monica or San
> Bernardino Freeways?
Yes. "Westbound on the Santa Monica" or "westbound on the 10" are
both typical newstraffic reporter shorthand descriptions. I suspect
that it is more a factor of alitteration and airtime restrictions than
one of precise definitions.
>
> > I've often heard "California Route One; PCH" but you are correct for
> > the other "99" percent including the aforementined "101." ;-)
>
> :) And BTW (not necessarily directed to just you, Robert), no one in
> Northern California knows what "PCH" is, but everyone knows "Highway 1."
Is that the same as "Rowte One?" Sorry, couldn't resist. You are
correct. All the more reason to Seperate SF from LA with at least 3
intermediating States.
Adam Froehlig
> "Interstate 80," "US 1," or anything. It's just "route 17, route 3,
> route 80, route 1." The only variation was a total absence of the
> modifier, which was common too; e.g. "287" or "46." "Highway"? Never
> used as a modifier in my experience.
Still pretty much the case. For the fiancee, and most others I know in
Jersey, its "route xx" (pronounced "root"), including the Interstates
(Route 78, Route 287, Route 80, etc etc). Occasionally, Interstates did
not have a modifier ("95", "195"). The NJ Turnpike is "the Turnpike",
while the GSP is "the Parkway".
Froggie | "Other half" in Roselle Park, NJ |
http://www.ajfroggie.com/roads/
BD
Crown Point and would have gone to Merrillville H.S. if I hadn't gone to
Andrean. I spent 4.5 years at Purdue and 9 months in South Bend while I was
in college. I have friends strewn across the state from Kokomo to Munie to
Ft. Wayne to Indianapolis to the southern tip near Louisville, so I speak
from expience when I say how Hoosiers (the good kind) refer to their roads.
Maybe a couple outliers refer to them differently, but when you get into the
state.. it's "I-65", "Route 52", and "State Road 25." Just about the only
thing the state cannot agree on is what time zone and/or daylight saving
time mode it wants to be on.
I now digress...
"Michael King" <mhk...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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Adam Froehlig
Taking Mississippi one step further, US highways are usually also
referred to by "Highway" (i.e. Highway 84, Highway 45, Highway 90).
Interstates are usually "I-xx" (I-20, I-55), although in many areas
(such as I-20/59 through Lauderdale County, or I-10 along the Gulf
Coast), they are referred to simply as "the Interstate".
> Three-digit roads are sometimes referred to by number, but they're
> usually referred to by either official or colloquial names.
In most cases, Mississippi 3di's do not have street/road names, and as
such are called by their route number (i.e. Highway 495, Highway 603,
Highway 512).
> Here, you usually don't use "miles". You usually say "go until this
> landmark and turn left, then go a short ways (short ways = at least
> 15 miles :-) ) until where this landmark USED to be...".
One reason for this (besides Southerners being used to "landmarks") is
that, except for the Interstates and US 78, Mississippi does not use
milemarkers.
Now, moving on to Minnesota, state and US routes are usually called
"highways" (Highway 10, Highway 23). County routes are "County" or
"County Road" (County 6, County Road 42). Interstates are usually
"I-xx" (I-35, I-94, I-90). In many cases, particularily with Twin
Cities freeways, the modifier is omitted (169, 35W, 394). Most locals
refer to the MN 62 freeway in the Twin Cities as "the Crosstown" (myself
included, since I grew up a block from it). US 52 between I-494 and
I-94 is commonly referred to as "the Lafayette Freeway".
Froggie | Long Beach, MS (formerly of Minneapolis, MN) |
http://www.ajfroggie.com/roads/
Bill Mitchell
> > way 401" rather than "Route 401," especially since using the word
> > "route" would give them one less thing to have to translate into
> > French.
> >
> > Anyway, here's a quick, two-question survey:
> >
> > 1) In your state, province or whatever, do they refer to roads as "High-
> > way 55" or "Route 55"?
> >
> > 2) In your state, province or whatever, would you be more likely to hear
> > "Take 55 for 10 miles" or "Take the 55 for 10 miles."
>
> 1. When I lived in NJ, everything was "route." Never would you hear
> "Interstate 80," "US 1," or anything. It's just "route 17, route 3,
> route 80, route 1." The only variation was a total absence of the
> modifier, which was common too; e.g. "287" or "46." "Highway"? Never
> used as a modifier in my experience.
>
> Here in Mass., it's pretty much the same, although it seems selective.
> For example, you'd always say "Route 2" or "Route 9." Those are
> givens. But I've always heard "1A," and cannot recall hearing "Route
> 1A." Same with 128. Interstates you're not likely to hear any modifier
> with.
Same here, in NJ, they are either route xx or simply xx, never I-xx,
US xx and especially never "the xx". Ditto also for US 9W, which is
called "9W", I don't remember hearing it called route 9W. Across the
river in New York, highways are more often than not refered to by
their name rather than their route number, and often just as the name,
example "The Cross Bronx" with the word Expressway or parkway left
off. One exception to this is 495, The LIE.