Roads leaving state and returning?
George Grapman
Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
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Craig Holl
> Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
MN 23 cuts through Wisconsin for a short bit just south of Dututh. See:
http://www.geocities.com/xtremephotos/roads/odds.html
http://www.steve-riner.com/mnhighways/r1-25.htm
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Jesse Whidden
> I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
>Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
It's a state route in Iowa (IA 165), but not in Nebraska.
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Barry L. Camp
"Craig Holl" <craigh...@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> > Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
>
> MN 23 cuts through Wisconsin for a short bit just south of Dututh. See:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/xtremephotos/roads/odds.html
> http://www.steve-riner.com/mnhighways/r1-25.htm
>
I knew someone was going to beat me to that one. :)
Here are some others:
US-2 and US-141 in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, and Wisconsin. (Each
state has 2 segments of each highway; one of the Wisconsin segments is a
2/141 multiplex for the entire length.)
I-24 west of Chattanooga
I-684 in NY
NY-17 (Future I-86)
There are probably a handful of others, but these are the ones that came to
my mind right away.
Barry L. Camp
May cover US-2/141 again in, well... May. :)
Barry L. Camp
"Jesse Whidden" <jwhidde...@unlnotes.unl.edu> wrote in message
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> George Grapman <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> posted:
>
> > I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> >Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
>
> It's a state route in Iowa (IA 165), but not in Nebraska.
It's Abbott Drive all the way through, both in Iowa and Nebraska.
Dan Garnell
"George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
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> I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
>
PA 426 ducks into the extreme western part of NYS as NY 426 & returns back
to the Keystone State as PA 426.
Dan
Arif Khokar
> I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
US 460 from Giles Co., VA through Mercer Co., WV to Tazwell Co., VA (or
the otherway around if you prefer :)
Jeff Kitsko
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I-86 starts in Pennsylvania, then goes into New York, and dips back into PA
in Bradford County then back to NY. PA 426 starts in Pennsylvania goes into
New York to become NY 426, and then re-emerging as PA 426 in Erie County.
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Michael Moroney
once for 5 miles. New Hampshire's Route 113B (which is a spur of Maine's
Route 113, not NH's Route 113) almost does it, it starts in Maine at
Route 113, heads west, then north to end almost exactly at one of the
spots where Maine 113 enters NH.
NH 153 enters Maine to go around a lake.
-Mike
Ben Kiene
George Grapman wrote:
> I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
>
>
WY 70 crosses in and out of Colorado southwest of Encampment, WY.
Apparently, WyDOT maintains the mile or so of the road in Colorado.
Some maps show there being a town called Slater on the out of state
section of WY 70, but I don't know if there is actually much of anything
there. Slater does not appear on the DeLorme Colorado Atlas, though it
is in several North America road atlases.
Ben Kiene
Kevin Lagasse
Heading north on I-684, the town order is North Castle, NY, Greenwich,
CT and North Castle, NY (again). It's the stretch between Exits 2
(Westchester County Airport) and 3.
There's also something about NY/CT route 120 running right along the
NY/CT border about where the Merritt Parkway (CT Route 15) ends at the
NY border (leaving Greenwich, CT).
Sherman Cahal
"George Grapman" <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message
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> Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
WV/VA 311. It begins at the last half-interchange on Interstate 64 near
Crow/White Suplhur Springs then immediately crosses into Virginia for a
while, then skips back over to West Virginia before going into Virginia
again.
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Likewise, US 50 leaves Grant Co., WV through Garrett Co., MD back to
Preston Co., WV.
VA 311 leaves Alleghny Co., VA through Greenbrier Co., WV back to
Craig Co., VA.
Combined US 119/US 52 crosses the Mingo Co, WV/ Pike Co., KY border
four times for two short runs on the KY side twice before the town of
Williamson, WV, where it crosses it again, this time permanently.
SP Cook
Mike Roberson
> Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
In addition to US 460 cited above, Virginia also has:
1. VA 259
2. US 340
3. George Washington Memorial Parkway (dips into DC and back out)
Also:
1. NC 106 and GA 246 zig-zag the state line sw of Highlands
2. FL 2
3. SC 28 slips into Augusta GA as GA 28 and back into SC. Then later
becomes GA 28 in the mountains
4. US 50 Maryland
5. I-95 - leaves Virginia at west shore of Potomac River, passes
through a wedge of DC in the middle of the river, and continues back
into Maryland.
6. US 72 Tennessee
7. US 395 California
8. US 212 Wyoming
Mike
Virginia Highways Page
www.angelfire.com/va3/mapmikey/index
Rob Adams
You're thinking of NY 120A, also known as King St. The northern end
starts in New York, enters Connecticut, stays there for about two
miles, then returns to NY for a mile, dips back into CT, then back
into NY. There's even a short stretch that has southbound traffic in
NY and northbound traffic in CT.
NY 120 comes very close to entering CT, right near Exit 2 of I684.
But to my knowledge, it never does actually enter it.
Rob Adams
Geoffrey William Hatchard
> George Grapman wrote...
> > I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> > Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
[snip]
> 2. FL 2
If you look at FL 2, you'll note that the road it lies on used to do a
double switch....from east to west in the Okefenokee Swamp area, it goes
from FL 2 to GA 94 to FL 2 to GA 94 again. One should note that it appears
that FL 2 may not be signed anymore on the Florida side near St. George, GA.
Can anyone confirm this?
[snip]
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H.B. Elkins
> I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
>Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
Zillions!
I can think of US 50 -- WV-MD-WV-VA-DC-MD
US 460 -- VA-WV-VA
US 119 -- KY-WV-KY-WV-KY-WV
US 52 -- WV-KY-WV-KY-WV
SR 311 -- VA-WV-VA-WV
SR 259 -- VA-WV-VA
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Marc Fannin
> I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
The FAQ has a question devoted to this:
http://www.roadfan.com/mtrfaq.html#a122
"Which highways either just enter or just miss a state?"
(Any from this thread which are not in there which anyone would like to see there?)
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Kevin Flynn
> Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
Here's one that I find most interesting.
There is a road that leaves the state of Missouri, enters the
Commonwealth of Kentucky and then returns into Missouri ... all
without ever crossing the Mississippi River.
It is an unnamed local road that runs south off Mississippi County MO
Road 310 and goes over an old channel of the river into Carlisle
County, Kentucky, continues south, then turns west and returns to
Missouri near County Road 314.
J.P. Kirby
> I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
>
Maine state route 113 enters New Hampshire for a couple miles before it
returns. New Hampshire state 153 does the same thing further to the south.
JPK
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> George Grapman <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote in message news:<3E811237...@NOSPAMpacbell.net>...
> > I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> > Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
>
> In addition to US 460 cited above, Virginia also has:
>
> 1. VA 259
> 2. US 340
> 3. George Washington Memorial Parkway (dips into DC and back out)
where on earth does the GW parkway enter DC????
Barry L. Camp
"Marc Fannin" <musx...@kent.edu> wrote in message
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> George Grapman <sfge...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote...
>
> > I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> > Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
>
> The FAQ has a question devoted to this:
>
> http://www.roadfan.com/mtrfaq.html#a122
> "Which highways either just enter or just miss a state?"
>
> (Any from this thread which are not in there which anyone would like to
see there?)
I think there is a very strong argument for MN-23 as the ONLY STATE HIGHWAY
to leave a state and return. The reason: when it enters Wisconsin, it is not
as WI-23 but as MN-23. Other highways are state highways of the state they
enter, and while they may or may not keep the same number, that's just not
the same thing.
I know of no other highway where this situation exists.
Barry L. Camp
<mj...@duke.edu> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Mike Roberson wrote:
>
> where on earth does the GW parkway enter DC????
Just north of I-395, GW Parkway crosses the Boundary Channel onto the island
that is Lady Bird Johnson Memorial Park (directly across from Arlington
National Cemetery).That island, and the entire water channel, is part of the
District of Columbia.
J.P. Kirby
>
> I think there is a very strong argument for MN-23 as the ONLY STATE
> HIGHWAY to leave a state and return. The reason: when it enters
> Wisconsin, it is not as WI-23 but as MN-23. Other highways are state
> highways of the state they enter, and while they may or may not keep
> the same number, that's just not the same thing.
>
> I know of no other highway where this situation exists.
The ME and NH examples I mentioned earlier (and Michael Moroney, now that I
see the replies) also do this.
Michael Moroney
>I think there is a very strong argument for MN-23 as the ONLY STATE HIGHWAY
>to leave a state and return. The reason: when it enters Wisconsin, it is not
>as WI-23 but as MN-23. Other highways are state highways of the state they
>enter, and while they may or may not keep the same number, that's just not
>the same thing.
>I know of no other highway where this situation exists.
Not true. I know of the following that keep their home state's number
while out of its home state:
ME 113 (twice)
NH 113B
NH 153
NY 17 (it is maintained entirely by NY as well)
NY 120A
In at least the cases of ME 113, NH 153 and NY 17, the "other" state has
an entirely different route with the same number.
-Mike
Barry L. Camp
"Michael Moroney" <mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
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Interesting. And enlightening. Thanks.
I wonder: are there "Welcome To..." signs and shields on any of these roads?
I was in the Duluth area in May of last year. MN-23 has no shields in
Wisconsin, and there are no "Welcome" signs for either state there. There is
very little visible evidence that one has even crossed state lines.
Michael Moroney
>I wonder: are there "Welcome To..." signs and shields on any of these roads?
On NY 17/future I-86 eastbound there is a sign that simply says "STATE LINE"
when entering Pennsylvania. I think one or two (not all 4) of the ME
113 crossings are marked. I know the north crossing of NH 153 is
marked only with the old style Maine town line marker (a square pole with
the town names written down it vertically) I think the south crossing
is unmarked.
-Mike
N. W. Perry
mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) wrote:
> On NY 17/future I-86 eastbound there is a sign that simply says "STATE LINE"
> when entering Pennsylvania. I think one or two (not all 4) of the ME
> 113 crossings are marked. I know the north crossing of NH 153 is
> marked only with the old style Maine town line marker (a square pole with
> the town names written down it vertically) I think the south crossing
> is unmarked.
"STATE BORDER" is the actual wording. There are also signs reminding
motorists of the cell-phone prohibition in NYS at the border points
(because there is an interchange on the PA stretch). This seems to
indicate that the NY law does not apply on the PA stretch of NY 17.
Trent
> Mike Roberson wrote...
> > George Grapman wrote...
> > > I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> > > Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
>
> [snip]
>
> > 2. FL 2
>
> If you look at FL 2, you'll note that the road it lies on used to do a
> double switch....from east to west in the Okefenokee Swamp area, it goes
> from FL 2 to GA 94 to FL 2 to GA 94 again. One should note that it appears
> that FL 2 may not be signed anymore on the Florida side near St. George, GA.
> Can anyone confirm this?
Don't know that for sure, but I believe FL 2 is still under state
control west of the thumb but is no longer east of the thumb (or
whatever it's called??).
Don't forget GA 246 SHOULD be like this, but GDOT maintains a small
part in NC. GA/SC 28 re-emerges twice-it leaves NC (also as 28),
enters GA in Rabun County, enters SC in Oconee County, re-enters near
Augusta, GA and leaves again into SC just to the south of Augusta. I
once traveled parts of this route on the way to Jekyll.
>
> [snip]
Kevin Flynn
> "Barry L. Camp" <blc...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:v84du2t...@corp.supernews.com:
>
> >
> > I think there is a very strong argument for MN-23 as the ONLY STATE
> > HIGHWAY to leave a state and return. The reason: when it enters
> > Wisconsin, it is not as WI-23 but as MN-23. Other highways are state
> > highways of the state they enter, and while they may or may not keep
> > the same number, that's just not the same thing.
> >
> > I know of no other highway where this situation exists.
>
> The ME and NH examples I mentioned earlier (and Michael Moroney, now that I
> see the replies) also do this.
>
> JPK
Also, would not the case of I-684 -- already cited in this thread --
fit this definition as well? ISTR that NY maintains the entire stretch
that runs for a little more than a mile through the corner of CT.
There is no access within CT.
Barry L. Camp
"Kevin Flynn" <fly...@rockymountainnews.com> wrote in message
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Well, it fits the definition of leaving and returning into a state. But
there are no issues in dispute with Interstates or US highways leaving and
returning into a state. Interstates are the same highway anyway.
What J.P. & I were discussing were State highways. For a State Highway to
leave and return into a state, it has to be continued in the neighboring
state under the same designation. By their very definition, It is extremely
rare (and generally not supposed to happen) for a state highway to exist as
such in another state. Normally, state roads "end" at their borders; and
neighboring states may or may not continue to carry the same number. So,
while there may be a continuation of the same physical road, the designation
ends. For example, Michigan's M-51 becomes Indiana's SR-933 at the state
line. Same road, but two different highways.
In the Maine example cited above, Maine's Route 113 enters New Hampshire,
but does not become NH-113. It is STILL Maine Route 113, even though it is
physically located in the state of New Hampshire. My MN-23 example is the
same way. It cuts through a tiny corner of Wisconsin, but it is still MN-23.
Interstate and US routes, by their very definition, are not subject to any
designation changes at state lines, so for I-684 there is no issue. Hope
that makes things less muddled, at least.
Barry L. Camp
Will travel the MI/WI US-2/141 multiplex as is goes from MI to WI to MI
again in May.
Oscar Voss
>
> I know that the road from downtown Omaha to the airport runs into
> Carter Lake, Iowa and then returns to Nebraska. Any others?
If you don't mind extending this into Canada, the Alaska Highway weaves
in and out of the Yukon at its border with British Columbia, crossing
into the Yukon first at mile 566, then crossing back and forth across
the border five more times until its final crossing into the Yukon at
mile 751.
At some point in the middle of this 185-mile stretch, what little route
signage there is (as well as maintenance responsibilty) changes from BC
97 to Yukon 1 and stays there, though I'm not sure exactly where
(probably the crossing east of Watson Lake YT, at mile 607 -- there's
one more dip back into BC west of there, between miles 710 and 751, but
it's completely isolated from the rest of BC, so it'd be much easier for
Yukon to take charge of that segment).
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