Median Rest Areas
Sir Hailstone - BOFH
Oases in Illinois] ??
I seem to remember this median rest area on I-70 somewhere in Mo-zoo-rah
and (H.B. you can verify this) the old Kentucky Turnpike had median
rest areas until the massive rebuild in the 1980's.
I've always thought median rest areas were a smart idea - one set of
facilities for both ways of traffic, but then you have to bridge them
back to the road or have slow traffic coming out in the left lane.
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Michael G. Koerner
I-95 in NE Maryland has one.
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Corey Dukes
> > Oases in Illinois] ??
> >
> > I seem to remember this median rest area on I-70 somewhere in Mo-zoo-rah
> > and (H.B. you can verify this) the old Kentucky Turnpike had median
> > rest areas until the massive rebuild in the 1980's.
> >
> > I've always thought median rest areas were a smart idea - one set of
> > facilities for both ways of traffic, but then you have to bridge them
> > back to the road or have slow traffic coming out in the left lane.
>
> I-95 in NE Maryland has one.
As well as in DE west of Wilmington.
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Pete from Boston
>>>Are these still found anywhere outside of tollways/turnpikes [ex. the
>>>Oases in Illinois] ??
>>>
>>>I seem to remember this median rest area on I-70 somewhere in Mo-zoo-rah
>>> and (H.B. you can verify this) the old Kentucky Turnpike had median
>>>rest areas until the massive rebuild in the 1980's.
>>>
>>>I've always thought median rest areas were a smart idea - one set of
>>>facilities for both ways of traffic, but then you have to bridge them
>>>back to the road or have slow traffic coming out in the left lane.
>>
>>I-95 in NE Maryland has one.
>
>
> As well as in DE west of Wilmington.
>
They're not uncommon on NYS parkways (untolled roads). There are two on
the Palisades, and one on the Hutch. They feature merges in and out on
the left.
The Garden State Parkway in NJ has a number of them as well, at least 4
I can think of, but it's a toll road and thus doesn't meet your criteria.
Jeff Kitsko
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> Are these still found anywhere outside of tollways/turnpikes [ex. the
> Oases in Illinois] ??
The Kansas Turnpike uses that design for all of their service plazas. The
Oklahoma system has several: Stroud on the Will Rogers, Walters and
Chickasha on the H. E. Bailey, Muskogee North on the Muskogee, Lone Chimney
on the Cimarron, Antlers and Eufaula on the Indian Nation, and an un-named
on the Cherokee.
The Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission had thought of using this design to
replace the existing service plazas, but nothing has been discussed lately.
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Chris Bessert
The Clare Welcome Center (which includes full rest area facilities,
too) on US-127/US-10 just north of Clare, Michigan is in the median of
that freeway.
http://www.terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3393&y=24288&z=16&w=2
Also, the parking and some facilities related to Multnomah Falls in
the Columbia River Gorge area on I-84/US-30 in Oregon is in the median
of that freeway, although the primary "services" are reached via a
paved pathway under the eastbound lanes, a very active railroad line
and by crossing the Historic Columbia River Gorge Hwy (old US-30) to
the Multnomah Falls Lodge. IIRC, there are restroom facilities in the
parking lot area in the median of the freeway here.
http://www.terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2844&y=25237&z=10&w=2
Later,
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"Sir Hailstone - BOFH" <Sir.NoSPAM...@yayhus.moc> wrote in message
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> Oases in Illinois] ??
>
There's one on I-44 in Missouri about an hour out of St Louis.
Dave Filpus
The median rest area on US-127/US-10 at Clare MI has been there for
decades. It was remodeled in the 1990's. It has left exits and ramps.
The last rest area on East I-40 at Warsaw NC is built in the median, but
traffic exits right and turns left at a stoplight onto the crossing
highway then turns again into the rest area. To get back onto the
freeway, traffic exits out onto the crossing highway and turns left at
the same stoplight onto the entrance ramps.
Sir Hailstone - BOFH
> "Sir Hailstone - BOFH" <Sir.NoSPAM...@yayhus.moc> wrote in message
> news:X5JWc.450$0J6...@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
>
>>Are these still found anywhere outside of tollways/turnpikes [ex. the
>>Oases in Illinois] ??
>
>
> The Kansas Turnpike uses that design for all of their service plazas. The
> Oklahoma system has several: Stroud on the Will Rogers, Walters and
> Chickasha on the H. E. Bailey, Muskogee North on the Muskogee, Lone Chimney
> on the Cimarron, Antlers and Eufaula on the Indian Nation, and an un-named
> on the Cherokee.
>
> The Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission had thought of using this design to
> replace the existing service plazas, but nothing has been discussed lately.
>
The Indiana Toll Road has their service plazas on the right - like most.
The bummer of that IMO, is normally there are two plazas across the
highway from each other and many times the choice of FF places is
different. And my luck usually runs the plaza on the other side of the
road has the FF joint I'm wanting at that time :-)
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Eric Opperman
There's one on I-30 in Arkansas between Malvern and Arkadelpia.
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Clayton Bigsby
> The Clare Welcome Center (which includes full rest area facilities,
> too) on US-127/US-10 just north of Clare, Michigan is in the median of
> that freeway.
>
> http://www.terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3393&y=24288&z=16&w=2
While not on a freeway, the welcome center on US 59-71 north of Texarkana is
in the median.
http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2017&y=18569&z=15&w=2
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> Sir Hailstone - BOFH wrote:
>
>> Are these still found anywhere outside of tollways/turnpikes [ex. the
>> Oases in Illinois] ??
>>
>> I seem to remember this median rest area on I-70 somewhere in
>> Mo-zoo-rah and (H.B. you can verify this) the old Kentucky Turnpike
>> had median rest areas until the massive rebuild in the 1980's.
>>
>> I've always thought median rest areas were a smart idea - one set of
>> facilities for both ways of traffic, but then you have to bridge them
>> back to the road or have slow traffic coming out in the left lane.
>
>
> There's one on I-30 in Arkansas between Malvern and Arkadelpia.
>
There's one on I-385 in SC
Kevin Flynn
Atlantic City Expressway, Frank S. Farley Service Plaza - Milepost
21.5. Just visited there on my family's junket to Cape May, DC and
Baltimore. Centered between the two mainlines.
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> > > Are these still found anywhere outside of tollways/turnpikes [ex. the
> > > Oases in Illinois] ??
> > >
> >
>
> As well as in DE west of Wilmington.
These two--three, actually; Maryland has two--are on a highway that is still
technically a toll road, the Kennedy Highway.
Nick C
(near Buffalo). The parking and gasoline are on the right side of the road
for both directions. For restrooms and food, one must use enter a building
and use a walkway across the highway to access the main building in the
median.
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Scott M. Kozel
The Powhite Parkway in Richmond, Virginia, has an unbuilt median rest
area. The median widens out to several hundred feet wide at one point
between the main line toll plaza and Chippenham Parkway, and this
portion of the median is heavily treed; it can be seen in the 1966
engineering study _Richmond Expressway System_ that this was originally
intended to contain a lake with a scenic overlook and parking area
accessed by ramps to and from the left lanes of the parkway. The
highway itself was designed and built to accommodate this feature, but I
have not yet found any source that documents why it was never
developed. The Powhite Parkway has parkway-like design features along
much of its length, but it is a full-fledged expressway that allows
cars, buses, and large trucks, and it is an integral part of the
regional expressway system that handles local, regional, interregional,
and interstate traffic. The heavy traffic volumes (almost 100,000 AADT
today) would seem to make usage of such a median scenic overlook to be
problematical.
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> "Sir Hailstone - BOFH" <Sir.NoSPAM...@yayhus.moc> wrote in
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>> Are these still found anywhere outside of tollways/turnpikes [ex. the
>> Oases in Illinois] ??
>
> The Kansas Turnpike uses that design for all of their service plazas.
> The Oklahoma system has several: Stroud on the Will Rogers, Walters
> and Chickasha on the H. E. Bailey, Muskogee North on the Muskogee,
> Lone Chimney on the Cimarron, Antlers and Eufaula on the Indian
> Nation, and an un-named on the Cherokee.
Actually, the Topeka Service Plaza (near the Shawnee/Douglas County line)
is now a right exit plaza on the north side with eastbound traffic coming
in via crossovers.
There is one rest area I-70 between Maple Hill and Paxico, in Waubunsee
county, that is in the median of I-70. Restroom facilities are in seperate
buildings, as the WB lanes go around a hill and the EB lanes cut on top of
it. All other rest areas in Kansas are on the right hand side.
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Marc Fannin
> Are these still found anywhere outside of tollways/turnpikes [ex. the
> Oases in Illinois] ??
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned I-85 in North Carolina, where the
median rest areas are to the right of the roadways because I-85 is in
a "wrong way" section there.
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Rich Piehl
There are several on I-94 and I-29 in North Dakota. They used old tree
windbreaks from farms that were in the highway ROW as protection for the
rest areas.
Take care,
Rich
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Froggie
> Oases in Illinois] ??
Given that the question relates to non-tolled facilities (*wagging his finger at
all the toll-road responses*), here's one that's not only on a non-tollway, but
on a non-freeway either: MnDOT is building a Rest Area and Welcome Center in
the new (and wide) median of MN 371 near Crow Wing CSAH 27 southwest of
Brainerd. When MnDOT widened this segment of MN 371 to 4 lanes over the last
couple years (completed early this summer), they created an extra-wide median,
roughly 1/3 mile, in this vicinity to accommodate the future rest area.
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Joe Blasi
boths
Pat O'Connell
> Oases in Illinois] ??
>
> I seem to remember this median rest area on I-70 somewhere in Mo-zoo-rah
Well, I-44 in MO, not far from St Louis.
> and (H.B. you can verify this) the old Kentucky Turnpike had median
> rest areas until the massive rebuild in the 1980's.
There was one near Shepherdsville KY.
There are median rest/service areas on the Will Rogers (this one's like
an Illinois Tollway oasis) and Turner Turnpikes also. Kennedy Turnpikes
also?
>
> I've always thought median rest areas were a smart idea - one set of
> facilities for both ways of traffic, but then you have to bridge them
> back to the road or have slow traffic coming out in the left lane.
That's the problem.
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Michael P. Gronseth
Bigsby" <watuzi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> TV's Chris Bessert wrote:
>> The Clare Welcome Center (which includes full rest area facilities,
>> too) on US-127/US-10 just north of Clare, Michigan is in the median of
>> that freeway.
>>
>> http://www.terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3393&y=24288&z=16&w=2
>
> While not on a freeway, the welcome center on US 59-71 north of Texarkana is
> in the median.
>
> http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=2017&y=18569&z=15&w=2
There is a new Welcome Center/Rest Area being built on MN 371 where it
widens back out to a 4 lane divided expressway north of Camp Ripley. The
northbound lanes swing wide right to curve around the rest area before
swinging back left to run along side a standard median.
-Michael
John David Galt
>> I've always thought median rest areas were a smart idea - one set of
>> facilities for both ways of traffic, but then you have to bridge them
>> back to the road or have slow traffic coming out in the left lane.
Pat O'Connell wrote:
> That's the problem.
I-5 in northern California near the Oregon border has a shared rest area
that avoids this problem. It's not in the median: you come off at a
normal exit (exit 786, CA highway 96) and jog one short block west.
I much prefer this to the median method, since it doesn't impede widening
the freeway when (not if) that needs to be done later on.
Allen Seth Dunn
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> "Sir Hailstone - BOFH" <Sir.NoSPAM...@yayhus.moc> wrote in message
> news:X5JWc.450$0J6...@fe1.columbus.rr.com...
> > Are these still found anywhere outside of tollways/turnpikes [ex. the
> > Oases in Illinois] ??
>
> The Kansas Turnpike uses that design for all of their service plazas. The
> Oklahoma system has several: Stroud on the Will Rogers, Walters and
> Chickasha on the H. E. Bailey, Muskogee North on the Muskogee, Lone
Chimney
> on the Cimarron, Antlers and Eufaula on the Indian Nation, and an un-named
> on the Cherokee.
>
> The Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission had thought of using this design to
> replace the existing service plazas, but nothing has been discussed
lately.
It seems to me that that would be difficult. IIRC, the PA Turnpike is just
too narrow in so many places that it would be expensive because one or both
directions would have to me shifted, which is expensive, and then build the
facility, which would likely be expensive in and of itself. IMHO, a better
solution would be to renovate and build upward, say like a two-story
facility. Or in the one or two locations where the service plazas for each
direction are directly across from each other, maybe something like building
a closed-in pedestrian area to connect the two facilities.
me
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> Are these still found anywhere outside of tollways/turnpikes [ex. the
> Oases in Illinois] ??
>
> rest areas until the massive rebuild in the 1980's.
When you say the Kentucky Turnpike, do you mean I-65? I know that
was toll for at least part of the route. I remember the areas where there
used to be toll booths, and they had some center Oasis areas, with
gas stations and stuff, until it was rebuilt sometime in the 80's.
SP Cook
>
> When you say the Kentucky Turnpike, do you mean I-65? I know that
> was toll for at least part of the route. I remember the areas where there
> used to be toll booths, and they had some center Oasis areas, with
> gas stations and stuff, until it was rebuilt sometime in the 80's.
The section of I-65 between Louisville and Elizabethton was built as
the "Kentucky Turnpike" and opened in 1956, before I-65 even existed.
Tolls were removed in 1975 and a major rebuild in the 80s removed the
evidence of the toll-ectomy.
Kentucky: the honest state that removes tolls when bonds are paid
off.
SP Cook
I am NOT Gene Wood!
> "me" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> Kentucky: the honest state that removes tolls when bonds are paid
> off.
A priceless response.
Chris Bessert
> pac...@msn.com (SP Cook) wrote:
>
>>Kentucky: the honest state that removes tolls when bonds are paid
>>off.
>
> A priceless response.
Followed by a useless response.
Jeff Carlyle
The Western Kentucky Parkway still has a rest/service area between exits 75
and 77.
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Larry Harvilla
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> Sir Hailstone - BOFH wrote:
> >
> > Oases in Illinois] ??
> >
> > I seem to remember this median rest area on I-70 somewhere in
Mo-zoo-rah
> > and (H.B. you can verify this) the old Kentucky Turnpike had median
> > rest areas until the massive rebuild in the 1980's.
> >
> > facilities for both ways of traffic, but then you have to bridge them
> > back to the road or have slow traffic coming out in the left lane.
>
Two, in fact: one around MP 80, the other at MP 96.
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>
> The Indiana Toll Road has their service plazas on the right - like most.
> The bummer of that IMO, is normally there are two plazas across the
> highway from each other and many times the choice of FF places is
> different.
Negative on that. In any particular location (MP 22 -- Hardee's and
Fazoli's, MP 56 -- McDonald's and Dairy Queen, MP 90 -- Arby's and Dunkin
Donuts, MP 126 -- Hardee's and Fazoli's, MP 146 -- McDonald's and Dairy
Queen), the offerings are exactly the same on both sides of the Toll Road.
I am NOT Gene Wood!
>Followed by a useless response.
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Sherman Cahal
> Are these still found anywhere outside of tollways/turnpikes [ex. the
> Oases in Illinois] ??
>
> I seem to remember this median rest area on I-70 somewhere in Mo-zoo-rah
> and (H.B. you can verify this) the old Kentucky Turnpike had median
> rest areas until the massive rebuild in the 1980's.
>
> I've always thought median rest areas were a smart idea - one set of
> facilities for both ways of traffic, but then you have to bridge them
> back to the road or have slow traffic coming out in the left lane.
The Western Kentucky Parkway has a median rest area. I believe it
includes a restaurant and a gas station. Jeff Carlyle would probably
know more about that since I have yet to travel the WK PKWY.
Alan Hamilton
California.
<http://www.terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=1&s=10&x=3488&y=18120&z=11&w=2>
I believe it was originally a roadside rest area for US 80.
When I-8 was built, the EB lanes were built around it.
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SP Cook
>> The Western Kentucky Parkway has a median rest area. I believe it
> includes a restaurant and a gas station. Jeff Carlyle would probably
> know more about that since I have yet to travel the WK PKWY.
The last time I was out that way, which was 8 or so years ago, it was
a Jerry's restaurant, which is a Kentucky-only (AFAIK) chain similar
to Denny's, Shoney's, Frisch's, etc. Gas was Chevron, IIRC.
SP Cook