Lincoln Highway trip report

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leopard

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Jun 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/27/98
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Well, I didn't go through with my original plan to drive to the Pacific
coast and back. I ended up turning around in Rock Springs, Wyoming and got
back home Weds. night, instead of today.
I traveled (much of) the Lincoln Highway from Upper Sandusky, Ohio to
North Platte, Neb. and I-80 rest of the way west (and most of the way east).
So here's my list of answers, comments, and questions.

Answers.
Wyoming, Iowa, and Nebraska (somewhat), all have the state in fine print
above the number on freeway signs.

I took a slight detour to find out what's I-76 exit number is at I-80 in
Nebraska. The answer is....well I'll give you a clue, it's triple digits
(since no one ever said what the number is, if I remember correctly). I-76
is also signed as southbound in Nebraska, but as west (and east) in Colorado
(there is no sign for I-76 going east/north in Nebraska).

I think I saw the world's largest US route signs on US 33 northwest of
Chursburo (sp) Ind (no I didn't get a picture of it unfortunetly).

Like Rich Carlson, I got a picture of old US route sign replica (mine is of
US 83 in North Platte).

Concerning the Lincoln highway. Between Beaverdam and Van Wert, Ohio
someone put up signs marking the Lincoln highway (just like what you would
see at the begining of the Lincoln highway website). BTW, rest of the way I
would see banners, not signs designating the Lincoln highway.
In Indiana, nothing special designating the Lincoln. Only the regular road
signs.
In Illinois, you see banners in Plainfield (as well as for US 66 as well),
Rochelle, and Clinton. There is also a Lincoln highway memorial in the
south Chicago suburbs.
In Iowa, there is some signage, but US 30 is eventully going to be 4 lanes
plus through Iowa. Except where it has been retrograded between Denison and
Carrol, Iowa. :-)


leopard

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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In Iowa, there is some signage for the lincoln, but there's alot of places
whereUS 30 is eventully going to be 4 lanes plus through Iowa (is it going
to be like this for the entire state?). Except where US 30 has been


retrograded between Denison and Carrol, Iowa. :-)


(ahem, <grumble, grumble> computer)

In Nebraska, one can count on one hand all the Lincoln highway markers in
Nebraska, and don't even bother checking Wyoming.

I got a chuckle out of Nebraska's rural road speed limits being 60 and
Wyoming's being 65 (the same speed as Ohio's freeways).

I'd imagine that I-70 is going to be six lanes from Wheeling (or at least
Zanesville) to Indy in the next 10-15 years (ODOT is currently widening I-70
south of Springfield, Oh.)

Comments...
Everyone uses Pennsylvania as the basis for terrible roads. I submit that
we change this to Nebraska. Would you prefer Pennsylvania ramps to freeways
going 75-80 mph or to freeways going 45-60 mph?
BTW, what is up with the lettered link routes in Nebraska (ex. link 45J)?
Would someone please explain them to me.

I also have to rip Indot on their construction pattern on I-74 west. It's
annoying to go 500 yards to 1 mile after one construction area then go into
another one. Just close the whole section instead of having 2 or 3 breaks,
that combined are 2 miles, please!

Any other comments or questions the rest of you have that I (hopefully
checked).

SJG

sp...@my-dejanews.com

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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In article <6n4g13$332$1...@cletus.bright.net>,
"leopard" <bt...@bright.net> wrote:

> BTW, what is up with the lettered link routes in Nebraska (ex. link 45J)?
> Would someone please explain them to me.

The first letter is L if it connects a state/US/I route to another, and S if
it ends in the middle of nowhere (probably stand for loop and spur). The
second and third digits are the county number (in alphabetical order). The
fourth letter starts at A in the county. For example, S55C is in Lancaster
County and goes from US 34 to the Lincoln Airport. It was the third CR in
Lancaster County.

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Rich Carlson, N9JIG

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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A couple of places along the Lincoln Highway also have painted markers on
telephone poles, like the original Lincoln Highway did. I know there are a
couple between DeKalb and Rochelle IL, and I have a couple photos if you
want...

> In Iowa, there is some signage, but US 30 is eventully going to be 4 lanes
> plus through Iowa. Except where it has been retrograded between Denison and
> Carrol, Iowa. :-)

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Rich Carlson, N9JIG

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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In article <6n4g13$332$1...@cletus.bright.net>, "leopard" <bt...@bright.net> wrote:

> Well, I didn't go through with my original plan to drive to the Pacific
> coast and back. I ended up turning around in Rock Springs, Wyoming and got
> back home Weds. night, instead of today.
> I traveled (much of) the Lincoln Highway from Upper Sandusky, Ohio to
> North Platte, Neb. and I-80 rest of the way west (and most of the way east).
> So here's my list of answers, comments, and questions.
>
> Answers.
> Wyoming, Iowa, and Nebraska (somewhat), all have the state in fine print
> above the number on freeway signs.
>
> I took a slight detour to find out what's I-76 exit number is at I-80 in
> Nebraska. The answer is....well I'll give you a clue, it's triple digits
> (since no one ever said what the number is, if I remember correctly). I-76
> is also signed as southbound in Nebraska, but as west (and east) in Colorado
> (there is no sign for I-76 going east/north in Nebraska).

How about Exit 102???

Also, since I-76 ends at I-80, there would be no reason to post any signs
to go East or North..... (The eastern I-76 and the western I-76 are not
related or connected)

>
> I think I saw the world's largest US route signs on US 33 northwest of
> Chursburo (sp) Ind (no I didn't get a picture of it unfortunetly).

IN uses huge marker signs for US routes....

>
> Like Rich Carlson, I got a picture of old US route sign replica (mine is of
> US 83 in North Platte).
>
> Concerning the Lincoln highway. Between Beaverdam and Van Wert, Ohio
> someone put up signs marking the Lincoln highway (just like what you would
> see at the begining of the Lincoln highway website). BTW, rest of the way I
> would see banners, not signs designating the Lincoln highway.
> In Indiana, nothing special designating the Lincoln. Only the regular road
> signs.
> In Illinois, you see banners in Plainfield (as well as for US 66 as well),
> Rochelle, and Clinton. There is also a Lincoln highway memorial in the
> south Chicago suburbs.

> In Iowa, there is some signage for the lincoln, but there's alot of places
> whereUS 30 is eventully going to be 4 lanes plus through Iowa (is it going

> to be like this for the entire state?). Except where US 30 has been


> retrograded between Denison and Carrol, Iowa. :-)
>
>

> (ahem, <grumble, grumble> computer)
>
> In Nebraska, one can count on one hand all the Lincoln highway markers in
> Nebraska, and don't even bother checking Wyoming.

Between Omaha and Fremont there is a fascinating Lincoln Highway memorial,
including a preserved section of the old roadway (On US-275). Not all of
the Lincoln Highway was US-30, and many sections had more than one route,
including here. The Lincoln Highway also ran along IA-183 north between
Council Bluffs and Missouri Valley on the other side of the river.


>
> I got a chuckle out of Nebraska's rural road speed limits being 60 and
> Wyoming's being 65 (the same speed as Ohio's freeways).

You would love Montana, where the "Reasonable and Proper" limits extend to
rural 2 lanes as well as the Interstates.


>
> I'd imagine that I-70 is going to be six lanes from Wheeling (or at least
> Zanesville) to Indy in the next 10-15 years (ODOT is currently widening I-70
> south of Springfield, Oh.)
>
> Comments...
> Everyone uses Pennsylvania as the basis for terrible roads. I submit that
> we change this to Nebraska. Would you prefer Pennsylvania ramps to freeways
> going 75-80 mph or to freeways going 45-60 mph?

I Prefer 75-80 MPH... Nebraska's roads were in great shape when I was
there last month. The last time I was in PA, a few years ago they were
pretty rough (Pittsburg to Altoona on US-22, and US-220 south to
Cumberland)


> BTW, what is up with the lettered link routes in Nebraska (ex. link 45J)?
> Would someone please explain them to me.

Links to I-80 from US-30 use these. The number refer to the county, and
the letter allows more than a single link in a single county.


>
> I also have to rip Indot on their construction pattern on I-74 west. It's
> annoying to go 500 yards to 1 mile after one construction area then go into
> another one. Just close the whole section instead of having 2 or 3 breaks,
> that combined are 2 miles, please!

Well, this does allow one to pass slow trucks, as I found out this May...

>
> Any other comments or questions the rest of you have that I (hopefully
> checked).
>
> SJG

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pki...@brunnet.net

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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In article <6n5t8p$f0t$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,

sp...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> The first letter is L if it connects a state/US/I route to another, and S if
> it ends in the middle of nowhere (probably stand for loop and spur). The
> second and third digits are the county number (in alphabetical order). The
> fourth letter starts at A in the county. For example, S55C is in Lancaster
> County and goes from US 34 to the Lincoln Airport. It was the third CR in
> Lancaster County.
>

So what happens if there are more than 26 in one county?

J.P. Kirby

leopard

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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Rich Carlson, N9JIG wrote in message ...


>A couple of places along the Lincoln Highway also have painted markers on
>telephone poles, like the original Lincoln Highway did. I know there are a
>couple between DeKalb and Rochelle IL, and I have a couple photos if you
>want...

>--
>* Rich Carlson, N9JIG (n9...@theramp.net) *
>
> Illinois Highway Page:
> http://www.theramp.net/n9jig/home.html


Nothing personal, but thanks but no thanks. I have no desire to do my own
website, so I would have no need for your photographs. I took plenty of my
own pictures along my trip, and when (ever) I get them developed I'd be
willing to scan them and e-mail them to anyone who would be interested
(instead).

SJG

leopard

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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Rich Carlson, N9JIG wrote in message ...

>In article <6n4g13$332$1...@cletus.bright.net>, "leopard" <bt...@bright.net>
wrote:

I took a slight detour to find out what's I-76 exit number is at I-80 in
Nebraska. The answer is....well I'll give you a clue, it's triple digits
(since no one ever said what the number is, if I remember correctly). I-76
is also signed as southbound in Nebraska, but as west (and east) in
Colorado
(there is no sign for I-76 going east/north in Nebraska).
>
>How about Exit 102???
>

Correct (and go figure)! I just don't remember anyone mentioning the exit #
when we had the discussion on shortest freeways a month or so ago (In fact
the concensus was that no one knew and I never saw an answer about it)


>Also, since I-76 ends at I-80, there would be no reason to post any signs
>to go East or North..... (The eastern I-76 and the western I-76 are not
>related or connected)

No, what I was tring to say was that while I-76 had a sign saying it was
southbound in Neb., then westbound in Colo. I-76 was signed eastbound in
Colo. but had no signs for it Neb.


>--
>* Rich Carlson, N9JIG (n9...@theramp.net) *
>
> Illinois Highway Page:
> http://www.theramp.net/n9jig/home.html


SJG

sp...@my-dejanews.com

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Jun 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/29/98
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In article <6n6gbe$3ok$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,

pki...@brunnet.net wrote:
>
> In article <6n5t8p$f0t$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
> sp...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > The first letter is L if it connects a state/US/I route to another, and S if
> > it ends in the middle of nowhere (probably stand for loop and spur). The
> > second and third digits are the county number (in alphabetical order). The
> > fourth letter starts at A in the county. For example, S55C is in Lancaster
> > County and goes from US 34 to the Lincoln Airport. It was the third CR in
> > Lancaster County.
> >
>
> So what happens if there are more than 26 in one county?
>

I don't know. Lancaster goes to L55X (and maybe further), however.

leopard

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Jul 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/2/98
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ScoJo wrote in message <359c7009...@news.isomedia.com>...
>Does the I-76 designation officially end at these bridges with the I-80
>designation taking over? If so, I submit that the reason the ramp from
I-76 EB
>to I-80 WB being exit 102 is the ramp is in I-80 territory (NE of the
bridges).
>
I took a picture (aren't you all proud of me. :-) of the final sign for 76
EB and submit that I-76 (west) ends/begins a 1/4 after the bridge (check the
placement of the overhead signs on the terraserver image of the
interchange). It does end inside of I-80's *territory,* so your theory
about I-76 sharing I-80's interchange number because of that, holds water.
>Aside: When I was there a couple months ago, I measured the Nebraska
stretch of
>I-76 at about 2.6 miles short starting at the bridges in the Terraserver
image.
>This assumes that milepost 2 is in the right spot.

>

This one I can't help you with. On my trip, I had the changeable odometer
set to keep track of my gas millage, and I didn't pay attention to I-76's
length in Nebraska either.
>ScoJo
>--

SJG

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