W-M does it because if they don't build one every 1/4 mile or so
apart, someone else will fill the spot
all the big retailers are like that
I'll bet the folks at misc.useless.Wal-Mart.trivia would know
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An item that caught my attention are cases where McDonalds
were located very close to each other. For example, there
was a case in Madison, WI, where there was a McD"s in a
mall, then another one across the street from the mall.
Here in the twin cities, there were cases where there were
McD"s located inside of Walmarts, and then full size McD's
located in the parking lot.
Another case that was interesting is the same brand of
gasoline on opposite sides of a street. Super America
bought out regional 7-11 locations about a decade back, which
resulted in 2 cases where there were Super America stores
exactly across the street from each other. This persisted
for several years, but eventually one of the locations
was shut down in each case.
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As for Walmart, they do close one on occasion. In fact, their New
Britain, CT store on Farmington Avenue (heading south and east from
Exit 37 of I-84 in Farmington, CT) is closing on August 31st. Our
location along the Berlin Turnpike (US 5/CT 15) was just remodeled, so
I doubt our location will be closing.
The WM may be relocateing to a Super Center. I have seen that alot in
the 6 years living in the mid south. We have about 2 dozen WM's within
an hour from my house all around mid TN/ Nashville and southern KY.
The closest between 2 WM is 2 on the same street (Nolansville RD
US31A-41A) and are 2 and a half miles from each other. (Seth Dunn and
Billy Riddle know which ones I am talking about) We have 2 more brand
new WM's getting ready to open this fall, one is in Mt Juliet, 12
miles from the house, the other is on Whites Creek Pike and Briley
Parkway (TN 155)
Most of the old, smaller WM buildings in this are became TSC, Goodwill
store, Hobby Lobby, Big Lots or a book store but you can tell it was a
WM. Also we tend to put our restaurants next to WM's especailly in the
south and midwest.
Jason Ilyes
JPI
Lebanon, TN
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The WM may be relocateing to a Super Center. I have seen that alot in
the 6 years living in the mid south. We have about 2 dozen WM's within
an hour from my house all around mid TN/ Nashville and southern KY.
The closest between 2 WM is 2 on the same street (Nolansville RD
US31A-41A) and are 2 and a half miles from each other. (Seth Dunn and
Billy Riddle know which ones I am talking about) We have 2 more brand
new WM's getting ready to open this fall, one is in Mt Juliet, 12
miles from the house, the other is on Whites Creek Pike and Briley
Parkway (TN 155)
Most of the old, smaller WM buildings in this are became TSC, Goodwill
store, Hobby Lobby, Big Lots or a book store but you can tell it was a
WM. Also we tend to put our restaurants next to WM's especailly in the
south and midwest.
Jason Ilyes
JPI
Lebanon, TN
Home fo the Barrel
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If WM is closing, it's probably moving to a (as I call them) Stupor Center.
You can often tell where there older WM's are... AND the K-Marts.
IN NW Arkansas, one old WM is now the WM optical lab, another is a WM
Neighborhood Market, yet another was Silk Tree Factory and is now Big Lots.
WM is also known for building new stores behind old ones then bulldozing the
old one for more parking.
K-Marts: one is now a Hobby Lobby (and recently expanded by evicting the
doctor's office next door), one is a failed flea market (a Super Big K), one
is owned by Tyson and was ACE Hardware before that.
I've never seen a CB near Wally World, but I DO know they are real sticklers
for their pole sign.
franchises like McD and Dunkin Donuts are a little different as the
franchisees have a no compete clause within a specified distance
but the franchisee can operate as many as he wants in his franchise
area as long as he abides by the terms of the agreement
that us the reason in a town like Rahway, NJ, which is about 2 sq
miles there are 3 dunkin donuts
I am suprised, come down my way, if they are not next door or in the
parking lot of a WM (like the one in Kimball/ South Pittsburgh, TN off
I-24) then they are at the opposite side of the exit from each other.
As for K-Mart, we had 3 K-marts close around Nashville just months
before I moved down here from PA. One is a bowling ally (Charolette
Pike/ West Nashville), another was converted into a Ross and Bed Bath
and Beyond (Hermitage) And another is in Gallatin that is now a Gym.
The one and only Super K-Mart in central PA (Hanover) became a Home
Depot. I know up home in central PA most of the smaller wm's that
became super centers just re-modeled and expanded there small stores
into the super centers (Both York locations, Mechanicsburg, Swatara
TWP, Lebanon, Chambersburg, North Hanover)
Jason Ilyes
JPI
Lebanon, TN
Home of the Barrel
CB in Alma is at I-40 & US 71. WM is 8-10 blocks away.
Springdale CB is I-540 and US 412. WM Neighborhood Market is a mile east,
across from K-Mart. WM Stupor ia another mile east & south. But it's real
close to Arvest Field, so it's near WM on a technicality ;)
Sounds like soem of the "sunsation" beach stores in OC MD on there
boardwalk, I think there was at least a half dozen on the boardwalk
alone when I used to go there every summer.
Jason Ilyes
JPI
Wal-Mart was one exit west of you, at my exit. My motel was in the SE corner of
the I-40 exit there, Wal-Mart was in the NW corner of that exit. I stopped in
there the first night I was in town.
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At I-635 and Midway in north Dallas (at it's border with Farmers
Branch) the NW corner has a non-super Walmart and the SW corner has a
WM Neighborhood Market. Apparently they don't want to (or can't??)
convert/expand/teardown/rebuild the NW corner store into a Super. The
NW corner store was built as a Pace warehouse, Kmart's former
wholesale club brand; when it left/flopped/whatever, WM snapped it
up. The people there have told me before it's one of the biggest non-
Super locations in the chain.
As for 'former' locations, there are a few Dallas-area ex-WMs. One in
Carrollton (replaced with nearby Super) is either an optical or
pharmacy processing site for WM now. A Plano (non-Super) location is
now an antiques mall. An Allen location (non-Super) closed when a
nearby non-Super in Plano expanded to be a Super. Another in west
Plano closed when a Super opened to much media interest about 2 miles
west. A grocery chain from Lubbock snapped up the old (non-Super)
store, tore it down and built a new grocery store there. As of yet,
there are no takers for a recently closed non-Super at the Dallas-
Richardson border, which was replaced with a Super a couple of miles
away; a WM Neighborhood Market closed to the south of that new Super
at the same time, so the new location effectively took out 2 others in
the process. A Duncanville non-Super (that closed when a newer Super
opened nearby in Dallas) is now empty and painted over white. One of
the notable replacements came when the original location for Hypermart
USA (long since re-badged as a Super), which was Walmart's initial try
at bigger-than-the-usual before refining the concept into the Supers
we have now, was closed last year in Garland and replaced with another
Super about a mile and 1/2 away. I still have my Hypermart store map
somewhere in my map boxes. I couldn't get over how huge the store was
for it's time (1987-1988). They sold all kinds of stuff there, even
full-sized appliances. The store made their floor employees wear
roller skates to get them across the store faster. There were many
storefronts and fast-food places along the front interior, almost mall-
like. WM tried Hypermart USA in Garland and Arlington here and 2
locations in the Topeka area before later refining the concept into
the current Supers.
There are numerous former Kmart, Gibson's, and Venture stores around
here also. Most of the Kmarts have been converted into bazaars, 1
into some company's call center, 1 into a Spanish-language church, 1
into a Target, 2 or 3 others into multiple shopping center spaces, 1
into a furniture store, 1 into a Syms, etc.
It's been so long since Gibson's was around that you rarely find any
that were open; for example, the one that Plano had was torn down a
few years ago, with a solitary parking lot light giving any clue as to
what the site contained. Any that operate now are independently-owned
vestiges of their former corporate tie-ins (quick Googling found 1 in
Kerrville and 1 in Weatherford). Another in Vernon still has the sign
intact but the building is vacant and for sale. Otherwise, most were
torn down or re-purposed into other kinds of stores (1 in Seagoville
tried to be an independent (as Seago Discount Center --'Seago' where
the 'Gibson's' part had been) but now is a flea market). As there is
no Wikipedia entry or Handbook of TX listing... Gibson's was once a
regional chain of a few hundred stores that reached it's heyday in the
1960s and early 1970s (based in Abilene??). The one I do remember
going into when *very* little was kinda sloppy, and had big tacky
aisle direction signs on posterboard paper that flopped around a lot
in the a/c breeze. Found this archived newspaper page on Google from
an October 1966 issue of the Victoria Advocate (with writeup and
prices for a store anniversary sale): http://alturl.com/tmji
Venture had nice stores when they first opened in DFW, but over their
short life here got messy, not kept up at all. At least 2 are now
Home Despots, 1 was an Expo store but now is a PGA superstore, the
rest I'm not sure of.
It is very rare around TX to see a closed WM without a replacement.
Hearne, TX (north of Bryan-College Station) lost a WM a few years ago;
it was recently acquired by the school district there and added to the
town's high school campus. Allen lost theirs without another
replacement within Allen (the closest non-Super in Plano was made into
a Super as WM's way of making up for Allen's loss), but in recent
years, when WM approached the Allen city council to let them come into
town with a Super, the council found some way to tell Bentonville's
Best to find the door. The council couldn't believe the gall after WM
blew the town off before.
The only area I have known where a Wal-Mart closed without a
replacement is the Hypermart in Kansas City, located off 87th and
Hillcrest. It was close to what was Bannister Mall and several other
stores like Best Buy. The only still-operating store in that part of
KC is a Kmart. People in that part of KC have to drive all the way to
either Belton/Raymore or Lee's Summit to get to a WalMart or Best Buy.
The ghost town that was the big shopping area for southern KC is
slated to be a pro soccer facility.
And the Hypermart in Kansas City, MO that has already been mentioned here.
> There are numerous former Kmart, Gibson's, and Venture stores around
> here also. Most of the Kmarts have been converted into bazaars, 1
> into some company's call center, 1 into a Spanish-language church, 1
> into a Target, 2 or 3 others into multiple shopping center spaces, 1
> into a furniture store, 1 into a Syms, etc.
There's an old Venture at Phoenix Village Mall in Fort Smith, AR. It's
obvious it used to be a Venture by its black and white diagonal stripe
pattern. I kind of miss that store. I found a "Bug Bite" Super Go-Bot for
$1 back in the 80s at that Venture. It wasn't in its package but for that
price who cares?
> It's been so long since Gibson's was around that you rarely find any
> that were open; for example, the one that Plano had was torn down a
> few years ago, with a solitary parking lot light giving any clue as to
> what the site contained. Any that operate now are independently-owned
> vestiges of their former corporate tie-ins (quick Googling found 1 in
> Kerrville and 1 in Weatherford). Another in Vernon still has the sign
> intact but the building is vacant and for sale. Otherwise, most were
> torn down or re-purposed into other kinds of stores (1 in Seagoville
> tried to be an independent (as Seago Discount Center --'Seago' where
> the 'Gibson's' part had been) but now is a flea market). As there is
> no Wikipedia entry or Handbook of TX listing... Gibson's was once a
> regional chain of a few hundred stores that reached it's heyday in the
> 1960s and early 1970s (based in Abilene??). The one I do remember
> going into when *very* little was kinda sloppy, and had big tacky
> aisle direction signs on posterboard paper that flopped around a lot
> in the a/c breeze. Found this archived newspaper page on Google from
> an October 1966 issue of the Victoria Advocate (with writeup and
> prices for a store anniversary sale): http://alturl.com/tmji
There was a Gibson's in DeQueen, AR when I was a child. Last time I was
there it was a Fred's.
Soon there is also supposed to be a Starbucks across the street as
well as in East Towne Mall, not to mention in the nearby Target store.
Also in Madison are two PDQ's (local convenience store chain) directly
across from each other on Fish Hatchery Road. One picks up inbound
traffic and the other picks up outbound.
When Payless shoes went into Shopko stores, there were a few cases of
stand-alone Payless stores situated by Shopko stores. At the Rushmore
Mall in Rapid City, SD, there is a Payless store in the mall as well
as a stand-alone store outside.
Bob S
I guess that's why the WalMart (and Sam's) on Dunvale just south of Westheimer
here in Houston has its nearest Sam's on Westpark at South Rice, about 3�
miles away, and the nearest WalMart around 7 miles away, at South Post Oak and
West Bellfort.
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There are several Walgreens within a short distance of me, one about 1/4
mile away and the other about 2 miles away.
There are 4 Sonics within about 2 miles of me. Unfortunately, their quality
has gone downhill so far I rarely even go there.
Fayetteville has a Gibson's: it's now a restaurant. Another popped later in
the old Kroger, but didn't last. Gibson's was a victim of Wal-Mart.
The Venture sign at Phoenix Village is still there, but PV itself is dead
(it's been dying for years). It's being remodeled into warehouse-style storage
The old Shoney's can't keep a tenant. It was a Mexican reatsurant, but is now
cheap BBQ.
Some of our Shoney's have made it after repacking, but at least one I
know was torn down after sitting vacant for years. No it's a vacant lot
sitting vacant for years. Is that any better...I dunno.
Most of our Ventures have been torn down and new box stores built in
their place. In a couple of cases Kmarts moved into the Venture
floorspace, but most of them have suffered a similar fate as the
Ventures. In three of the cases the box stores were torn down and new
box stores built (2 Hobby Lobby's and a Home Depot. In one case where
nothing moved into the old Venture store, as was said the black & white
stripes are peeling, but remain (I wonder what remains inside) I don't
go by there but once in a blue moon but last time I did weeks were
growing in the cracks in the parking lot four feet high.
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We have 3 Walgreens in Ft Smith, but only 1 is 24 hours. So if you need
something in a hurry at 3am, you have to drive halfway across town, unless
you'd rather go to Wal-Mart.
Sonic, we have at least 4, plus one that's now independent ("Phoenix
Drive-In"). I usually just get a limeade anymore, but they've gotten cheap on
the number of lime pieces they throw in.
The old Sonic in Mena is now "Cruizzers" and their quality and service far
exceed Sonic. And they are FAR friendlier. Often when driving by, I'll
notice that Cruizzers is packed while there are few or no cars at Sonic. If
you ever find yourself in Mena and hungry for Sonic, I highly recommend
avoiding Sonic and going to Cruizzers. The Myers family who runs Cruizzers
also runs a former Sonic in Poteau, OK and another town that I can't recall.
> Fayetteville has a Gibson's: it's now a restaurant. Another popped later in
> the old Kroger, but didn't last. Gibson's was a victim of Wal-Mart.
"victim". That is interesting. Here Albertson's bailed at about the
time Walmart announced a mile two away, but Bag and Save moved right
into the store. Between it and Walmart are a Bakers (Kroger), a Target,
and myriad "convenience stores. About the same distance south there is
big HyVee, a SuperSaver and several others whose names escape me. Not
too much west except ca convenience store in the corner of a corn field
remnant.
North at more convenience stores and anew supermarket going in.
And all around are shops and restaurants of all sorts. (Including what
used to be a Radio Shack between the Target and the Walmart.)
There's a porno shop in Tulsa in what is obviously an old "hut"-styled Pizza
Hut.
Closed up Stuckeys and Nickerson Farms seem to lend themselves to this
purpose along the highways of country, too.
Old gas stations are good for that, too. There is one near Sarcoxie along
I-44.
>There's a porno shop in Tulsa in what is obviously an old "hut"-styled Pizza
>Hut.
Please don't tell me they named it "Porno Hut."
I believe it's called "Priscilla's".
>I believe it's called "Priscilla's".
As in "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert?" LOL
I avoid such establishments, so I wouldn't know.
We've got a Priscilla's here, too. (is it a chain?) But, like you, I've
never been inside. Only driven past.
I believe so. Seems like I remember one in Lawrence, KS now that you
mention it.
Yeah, when I lived in Clark, just for kicks and giggles, I checked how
many Dunkins were within a certain distance and I think it was
something astronomical, 75 within 12 miles I think...
It most certainly did. The only building in the area with active use
is the fire station at the corner of Bannister and Hillcrest. Even
the restaurants in that stretch are closed. Along Bannister there's
the Kmart and a convenience store (I think Shell or 66 now; used to be
QT). Some new businesses like Home Depot opened along Bannister, but
those are west of IH435 and east of US 71.