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Jake Trexel

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Jun 24, 2001, 4:25:59 PM6/24/01
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I would very much appreciate any one that would send me pictures from
RT. 56 in the Johnstown, Giestown, Richland, and Windber area. Old ones
from the 50 and 60 would be great since that is the last years I lived
there. I am disabled and home bound and will never get to see my home
state again, nor talk to the wonderful people of PA
thank you so much
jake

Adam Prince

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Jun 24, 2001, 4:33:34 PM6/24/01
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has photos from your old home...plus I will be addign more to them tonight

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Jeff Kitsko

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Jun 24, 2001, 5:02:12 PM6/24/01
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I'll be able to help you out. I am planning a picture taking trip up to
flood city at some point to get shots of US 219 and PA 56 for my pages and
for AARoads.com.

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Adam Prince

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Jun 24, 2001, 4:51:41 PM6/24/01
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Since the PA 56 Ends Page, http://www.gribblenation.com/paends/state/56.html
, was opened a few weeks agao, I have received a few e-mails saying that PA
56 may still make it into Allegheny County.

Currently on Jeff's Page, http://www.pahighways.com/exits/PA56exits.html ,
PA 56 ends at PA 366 in New Kensington. Even before this page was
introduced that's where I though the terminus was. We do know that at one
time PA 56 ended at the AVE, PA 28,
http://www.gribblenation.com/papics/oldsigns2/PA28Exit12BGS.jpg .

However, in the e-mails I have received. Signs direct PA 56 over the
Allegheny River. Once you cross the River there are no more PA 56 signs.
One suggestion is that PA 56, like PA 910, ends at old PA 28 which is
Freeport Road. So which end is it. Is it PA 366 or Freeport Road or some
other place?

Anyone out there have additional information or know the truth to this end.

Thanks,

Adam


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Barb B.

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Jun 24, 2001, 6:03:23 PM6/24/01
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Adam Prince wrote in message ...

>Since the PA 56 Ends Page,
http://www.gribblenation.com/paends/state/56.html
>, was opened a few weeks agao, I have received a few e-mails saying that
PA
>56 may still make it into Allegheny County.
>
>Currently on Jeff's Page, http://www.pahighways.com/exits/PA56exits.html ,
>PA 56 ends at PA 366 in New Kensington. Even before this page was
>introduced that's where I though the terminus was. We do know that at one
>time PA 56 ended at the AVE, PA 28,
>http://www.gribblenation.com/papics/oldsigns2/PA28Exit12BGS.jpg .

This was in the late 70's. PA 28 used to end at the Cheswick exit ( the one
you have the BGS of). To get to New Kensington you turned left off the
exit and followed that road to a stop sign at Riddle Run Road which took
you to old 28 and you could turn left and go to the New Kensington bridge.
There were no other signs for 56 until you got off the bridge and went into
New Ken. In the early 80's, they completed more of 28 and they ended the
road south of Tarentum by the PPG plant. You had to follow Old 28 through
Tarentum and Natrona Heights to the steep hill before Freeport and turn left
to get back onto new 28.
John and Barb B.

Lazer Ace

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Jun 25, 2001, 11:12:38 AM6/25/01
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I would have to say that PA 56 West ends at the New Kensington bridge.

Riddle Run Road, is that the road that is very narrow and windy just past
Butler-Logan Road?

I was told once that 56 actually ran through Springdale and the borough
demanded truck traffic be reduced. So, they removed the New Kensington
designation of the now Cheswick Springdale exit. Further down the road
there is a sign 'Trucks to New Kensington use Exit 12' (I think its 12)

When you go to mapquest and zoom in on the New Kensington bridge, it says 56
right on the middle of the bridge, but anything on the westbound side of the
bridge is no trace of 56.

I guess they lost track of it when they finished 28 in those parts.

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SPUI

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Jun 25, 2001, 11:40:47 AM6/25/01
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"Lazer Ace" <e...@joes.com> wrote in message
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> I would have to say that PA 56 West ends at the New Kensington bridge.
>
> Riddle Run Road, is that the road that is very narrow and windy just past
> Butler-Logan Road?
>
> I was told once that 56 actually ran through Springdale and the borough
> demanded truck traffic be reduced. So, they removed the New Kensington
> designation of the now Cheswick Springdale exit. Further down the road
> there is a sign 'Trucks to New Kensington use Exit 12' (I think its 12)
>
> When you go to mapquest and zoom in on the New Kensington bridge, it says
56
> right on the middle of the bridge, but anything on the westbound side of
the
> bridge is no trace of 56.
>
> I guess they lost track of it when they finished 28 in those parts.

From
ftp://164.156.5.77/public/pdf/BPR_PDF_FILES/MAPS/TR&SR_type3/westmoreland_T3
.PDF it appears to end at the intersection of 7th St and 4th Ave. TRUCK 56
(also 4087) ends somewhere around there too, while on 3rd Ave or Industrial
Blvd. The bridge itself is 1038.
ftp://164.156.5.77/public/pdf/BPR_PDF_FILES/MAPS/TR&SR_type3/allegheny_T3.PD
F doesn't have 56 at all (that side of the bridge is 1038), so 56 ends at
7th St/4th Ave.

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Barb B.

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Jun 25, 2001, 7:36:03 PM6/25/01
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Lazer Ace wrote in message ...

>I would have to say that PA 56 West ends at the New Kensington bridge.
>
>Riddle Run Road, is that the road that is very narrow and windy just past
>Butler-Logan Road?

Yep it is. That was the shortcut road we used to take to bypass Springdale
(if you were driving a truck). There used to be a good greasy spoon on the
right before the New Ken bridge, after the *cheap* siding place.

>I was told once that 56 actually ran through Springdale and the borough
>demanded truck traffic be reduced. So, they removed the New Kensington

Don't know for a fact that 56 ran through Springdale, but did take the
shortcut road to bypass the traffic and red lights.

>When you go to mapquest and zoom in on the New Kensington bridge, it says
56
>right on the middle of the bridge, but anything on the westbound side of
the
>bridge is no trace of 56.

The map book we have also has 56 ending in the middle of the bridge (C.L.
Schmitt bridge).

N.Markowitz

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Jun 25, 2001, 8:43:20 PM6/25/01
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You have a better chance of finding Jimmy hoffa thn the answer to RT 56
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Jeff Kitsko

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Jun 25, 2001, 9:25:58 PM6/25/01
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I think you would have a better chance of finding the western terminus of PA
56, Jimmy Hoffa, and the lost continent of Atlantis, than finding
thesouthern terminus of PA 28.

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SPUI

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Jun 25, 2001, 9:31:23 PM6/25/01
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> I think you would have a better chance of finding the western terminus of
PA
> 56, Jimmy Hoffa, and the lost continent of Atlantis, than finding
> thesouthern terminus of PA 28.

According to
ftp://164.156.5.77/public/pdf/BPR_PDF_FILES/MAPS/TR&SR_type3/allegheny_T3.PD
F that's at the I-279/I-579 interchange. The surface road once the freeway
starts is 4084.

Adam Prince

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Jun 25, 2001, 10:57:31 PM6/25/01
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Well Dan driving PA 28 in Pittsburgh to and from work and school in 1999
there were PA 28 shields all the way down to Three Rivers Stadium. These
were on East Ohio Street and around Allegheny Center.

I'm gonna go with my own eyes on this one...

Then again living there for 22 years helped too

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Adam Prince

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Jun 25, 2001, 10:57:31 PM6/25/01
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Maybe at the meeting on July 14th we can pick an arbitrary spot and post a
sign what ya say! =)


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Jeff Kitsko

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Jun 25, 2001, 11:36:00 PM6/25/01
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Thank you PennDOT.

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Jeff Kitsko

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Jun 25, 2001, 11:37:02 PM6/25/01
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I should have ordered a PA 28 sign instead of a PA 51 last time, then we
could have made it look official.

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EdB

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Jul 1, 2001, 10:43:49 AM7/1/01
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In the same Note, were is the terminus of Route 8 South.

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Adam Prince

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Jul 1, 2001, 12:17:27 PM7/1/01
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It is at the Parkway right by Channel 4.

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Jeff Kitsko

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Jul 1, 2001, 1:49:25 PM7/1/01
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Pssssh, that is an easy one.

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