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mist...@gmail.com
Apr 21, 2013, 10:51:59 AM4/21/13
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I kid you not. There are now reassurance shields for NY 25C on Union Turnpike, one each for eastbound (just east of Lakeville Road) and westbound (just west of New Hyde Park Road.
Andrew M. Saucci, Jr.
Apr 21, 2013, 3:03:33 PM4/21/13
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I believe it, but I bet it's a mistake, even though the reference
markers for the route were never changed from 25C. As we know, such mistakes
are not out of the realm of possibility. I'll have to go by there to enjoy
them while I can.
<mist...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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markers for the route were never changed from 25C. As we know, such mistakes
are not out of the realm of possibility. I'll have to go by there to enjoy
them while I can.
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Larry Sheldon
Apr 21, 2013, 4:46:59 PM4/21/13
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what is the rest of the story here?
And I an not familiar with the "NY 25C" nomenclature form.
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Andrew M. Saucci, Jr.
Apr 21, 2013, 9:45:53 PM4/21/13
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We are referring to a rather short stretch of highway just over the
New York City border. It is maintained by New York State and since about
1972 has not had an official touring route number since NY State touring
route 25C was decommissioned. 25C was an alternate to 25 and followed Union
Turnpike for most of its route. The portion of Union Turnpike in Nassau
County is currently on the books as "secret" reference route 900F, meaning
that it had no posted reassurance shields, and, consistent with state
practice, the dozen or so existing reference route markers ("little green
signs") were never updated to reflect that and continued to bear the "25C"
designation. The posting of reassurance shields on this stretch of road is
either very newsworthy as it would mean that the touring route is being
officially revived, or nothing more than fodder for roadgeeks as it simply
means that some highway workers wasted about $1000 of taxpayers' money
posting unnecessary signs. As much as I would enjoy seeing them, I do have
to draw that conclusion as I can hardly see any great use for them. The road
does not connect to any other touring route on either end; I can only see
the posting of signs as having some connection to validating a GPS that was
erroneously programmed and announced "turn right at NY 25C." Even then, more
than the two reassurance shields would be necessary; some shields with
arrows would be needed at New Hyde Park Road and Lakeville Road and perhaps
a JCT or two at either end.
Finally, as I have said in the past, these short stretches of state
highway should be officially abandoned in state highway law and returned to
local maintenance so that the whole discussion becomes moot. In this case,
one could argue that the road should never have been included in the state
highway system in the first place, unless the plan was to extend the eastern
end to meet another state highway. I believe that even when 25C was a
touring route, the eastern section, over Marcus Blvd, was signed over county
highways. I was only 10 in 1972, so I can barely remember some of this and
have to resort to Internet research and extant physical evidence such as
remaining relics of state traffic signals. (I don't think any of these can
be found on Marcus Avenue.)
"Larry Sheldon" <lfsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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New York City border. It is maintained by New York State and since about
1972 has not had an official touring route number since NY State touring
route 25C was decommissioned. 25C was an alternate to 25 and followed Union
Turnpike for most of its route. The portion of Union Turnpike in Nassau
County is currently on the books as "secret" reference route 900F, meaning
that it had no posted reassurance shields, and, consistent with state
practice, the dozen or so existing reference route markers ("little green
signs") were never updated to reflect that and continued to bear the "25C"
designation. The posting of reassurance shields on this stretch of road is
either very newsworthy as it would mean that the touring route is being
officially revived, or nothing more than fodder for roadgeeks as it simply
means that some highway workers wasted about $1000 of taxpayers' money
posting unnecessary signs. As much as I would enjoy seeing them, I do have
to draw that conclusion as I can hardly see any great use for them. The road
does not connect to any other touring route on either end; I can only see
the posting of signs as having some connection to validating a GPS that was
erroneously programmed and announced "turn right at NY 25C." Even then, more
than the two reassurance shields would be necessary; some shields with
arrows would be needed at New Hyde Park Road and Lakeville Road and perhaps
a JCT or two at either end.
Finally, as I have said in the past, these short stretches of state
highway should be officially abandoned in state highway law and returned to
local maintenance so that the whole discussion becomes moot. In this case,
one could argue that the road should never have been included in the state
highway system in the first place, unless the plan was to extend the eastern
end to meet another state highway. I believe that even when 25C was a
touring route, the eastern section, over Marcus Blvd, was signed over county
highways. I was only 10 in 1972, so I can barely remember some of this and
have to resort to Internet research and extant physical evidence such as
remaining relics of state traffic signals. (I don't think any of these can
be found on Marcus Avenue.)
"Larry Sheldon" <lfsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Larry Sheldon
Apr 21, 2013, 10:24:00 PM4/21/13
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Michael Moroney
Apr 24, 2013, 1:34:17 AM4/24/13
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"Andrew M. Saucci, Jr." <spam...@saucci.local> writes:
> We are referring to a rather short stretch of highway just over the
>New York City border. It is maintained by New York State and since about
>1972 has not had an official touring route number since NY State touring
>route 25C was decommissioned. 25C was an alternate to 25 and followed Union
>Turnpike for most of its route. The portion of Union Turnpike in Nassau
>County is currently on the books as "secret" reference route 900F, meaning
>that it had no posted reassurance shields, and, consistent with state
>practice, the dozen or so existing reference route markers ("little green
>signs") were never updated to reflect that and continued to bear the "25C"
>designation. The posting of reassurance shields on this stretch of road is
>either very newsworthy as it would mean that the touring route is being
>officially revived, or nothing more than fodder for roadgeeks as it simply
>means that some highway workers wasted about $1000 of taxpayers' money
>posting unnecessary signs. As much as I would enjoy seeing them, I do have
>to draw that conclusion as I can hardly see any great use for them. The road
>does not connect to any other touring route on either end; I can only see
>the posting of signs as having some connection to validating a GPS that was
>erroneously programmed and announced "turn right at NY 25C." Even then, more
>than the two reassurance shields would be necessary; some shields with
>arrows would be needed at New Hyde Park Road and Lakeville Road and perhaps
>a JCT or two at either end.
NY has been rather sloppy about signing reference routes that shouldn't
> We are referring to a rather short stretch of highway just over the
>New York City border. It is maintained by New York State and since about
>1972 has not had an official touring route number since NY State touring
>route 25C was decommissioned. 25C was an alternate to 25 and followed Union
>Turnpike for most of its route. The portion of Union Turnpike in Nassau
>County is currently on the books as "secret" reference route 900F, meaning
>that it had no posted reassurance shields, and, consistent with state
>practice, the dozen or so existing reference route markers ("little green
>signs") were never updated to reflect that and continued to bear the "25C"
>designation. The posting of reassurance shields on this stretch of road is
>either very newsworthy as it would mean that the touring route is being
>officially revived, or nothing more than fodder for roadgeeks as it simply
>means that some highway workers wasted about $1000 of taxpayers' money
>posting unnecessary signs. As much as I would enjoy seeing them, I do have
>to draw that conclusion as I can hardly see any great use for them. The road
>does not connect to any other touring route on either end; I can only see
>the posting of signs as having some connection to validating a GPS that was
>erroneously programmed and announced "turn right at NY 25C." Even then, more
>than the two reassurance shields would be necessary; some shields with
>arrows would be needed at New Hyde Park Road and Lakeville Road and perhaps
>a JCT or two at either end.
be signed over the last 10 years or so. There are about 3 or 4 instances
of reference routes being signed with their reference route number,
probably making the general public wondering why this road has a weird
route number like 990V.
Andrew M. Saucci, Jr.
Apr 24, 2013, 8:09:45 PM4/24/13
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"Michael Moroney" <mor...@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message
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an individual activity. The erection of incorrect/unnecessary signs requires
a team effort of incompetence. Someone has get the idea in the first place.
A work order has to be prepared and signed. Someone has to make the sign.
Then perhaps as many as three people actually install the sign. Any of these
people could be bright enough to say, "Whoa! This is wrong!"
Andrew M. Saucci, Jr.
Apr 28, 2013, 8:19:00 PM4/28/13
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