Cleveland Stations

[Arnold Morscher]

Regarding Cleveland Stations:

> I am looking at a 1962 Pennsy passenger timetable, and it
> gives the address of the PRR station in Cleveland as
> Euclid Ave & East 55th St. While on the subject of
> passenger stations in Cleveland, according to my 1947
> Erie RR the Erie had passenger stations at Superior Ave.,
> East 55th Street, and also at East 99th Street.
> Does anyone know if this was before the Erie went into CUT?
> Thanks.

The Erie's station at E55th street remained in standing until
the end of the EL in 1976, although it was "closed" earlier.

The Superior Avenue station, was really under the Detroit-Superior
Road viaduct and was the ERIE station located on the Big Four
trackage. I believe that the station is still standing, and
later became "Diamond Jim's" bar, and then "Shorty's".
Anyways, the big Cleveland Union Terminal (Terminal
Tower) became operational in about 1930 or so. The Erie was
not an initial tenant, but I cannot recall when they joined
the C.U.T. party.
The PRR, never very happy with Cleveland's choice of
locations for the old lakefront Union Station (at the bottom of
a steep grade on the PRR), elected to stay out of the Terminal
Tower version of C.U.T., and as a result, ended up using its
E55th station as its Cleveland Station. The PRR never did
join the Terminal Tower festivities.

Steam powered trains entering the new 1930's C.U.T.
required Electric locomotives to drag the trains through. When
the trains dieselized, the electrics were sidelined, and I think
that then the Erie joined the C.U.T party.

Arnie.

[Paul Noble]

In article <3vh8nm$r...@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ax...@po.CWRU.Edu says...

A bit of trivia. The Erie was, I believe, the _last_ railroad tenant of
C.U.T. In 1974, I took an Erie commuter train from there to Youngstown.
It was a single, really crummy coach, pulled by an equally delapidated
E-unit or F-unit. I wasn't much into railfanning then, so I didn't
notice. I was just alert enough to notice that it was a "covered wagon".

--
Paul Noble | It is better to remain silent
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Cleveland, Ohio 44135 | than to open your mouth
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[WEZ Rail]

The Erie moved into CUT about 1950-1951 or so. It was the last road to
enter the Terminal and the last to leave! The old station was in the
Flats and became Diamond Jim's, later Shorty's restaurant. The building
is still standing and the new light rail line is under construction
nearby. Don't know whether it will survive the construction. WALTER E.
ZULLIG JR.