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Sai...@dircon.co.uk

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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I was Master of a Passenger Ship in 1995, and I had Chief, Second, three
Thirds, Fourth, and three Electricians.

Mostly though we have Chief, Second, Third, Fourth and Electrician. The place
of the juniors is taken by 'fitters'

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Sai...@dircon.co.uk

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 01:30:03 +0800, 187 <low...@pacific.net.sg> wrote:

>
>
>for electricians, singapore and malaysia calls them 'sparks' and there
>are also, laky and bosun onboard the ship. are juniors the cadet eng or
>the fitter?


The 'Juniors' were the 5th, 6th, and sometimes 7th Engineers.
Sometimes the ship would have a Second Electrician, he would be
classed as a junior. Juniors were the 'Junior Engineers'. Sparks were
the Radio Officers. We didn't have them on the Pax ship, as the ship
was fully GMDSS.

The Electricians were known as 'Leckys'


187

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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for electricians, singapore and malaysia calls them 'sparks' and there

187

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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Sai...@Dircon.co.uk wrote:
>
> On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 01:30:03 +0800, 187 <low...@pacific.net.sg> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >for electricians, singapore and malaysia calls them 'sparks' and there
> >are also, laky and bosun onboard the ship. are juniors the cadet eng or
> >the fitter?
>
> The 'Juniors' were the 5th, 6th, and sometimes 7th Engineers.
> Sometimes the ship would have a Second Electrician, he would be
> classed as a junior. Juniors were the 'Junior Engineers'. Sparks were
> the Radio Officers. We didn't have them on the Pax ship, as the ship
> was fully GMDSS.
>
> The Electricians were known as 'Leckys'


yeah i was wrong......indeed the radio officers are called 'sparkies'
and the electrician the 'lacky'. i remembered one friend of mine who
called a 'lacky' and got the reply that 'i am not a lacky but a radio
officer'!!
anyway, this is the first time that i know there are even 6th and 7th
engineering in the engineering department.

rgds,
addison.

Sai...@dircon.co.uk

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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On Sun, 23 Aug 1998 20:18:07 +0800, 187 <low...@pacific.net.sg> wrote:


>
>
>yeah i was wrong......indeed the radio officers are called 'sparkies'
>and the electrician the 'lacky'. i remembered one friend of mine who
>called a 'lacky' and got the reply that 'i am not a lacky but a radio
>officer'!!
>anyway, this is the first time that i know there are even 6th and 7th
>engineering in the engineering department.
>
>rgds,
>addison.

In the 'Good Old Days' before UMS, there used to be two Engineer
Officers on each watch.

We had 2nd and 5th on the 4-8, 3rd and 6th on the 12-4, andth and
2/elect on the 8-12.

Some ships had even more....


187

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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good old days?? i beg to differ. i used to be on a ship without ums
and it was hell for me. as the most junior engineer onboard, i was
always given the 0200-0600 watch. thats the worst watch hour to be
given.

cheers!
addison
singapore

187

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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187

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Jaydee

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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In article <35E151...@pacific.net.sg>, low...@pacific.net.sg says...
Hi,

> good old days?? i beg to differ. i used to be on a ship without ums
> and it was hell for me. as the most junior engineer onboard, i was
> always given the 0200-0600 watch. thats the worst watch hour to be
> given.

Good ole days. Back in the 70's we ran the Sealand SL-7's with three
people on a watch. Two licensed engineers and a junior engineer. The SL-
7's had two 60,000 HP steam turbines with one boiler for each engine.
Speed 33kts. BTW - If I have to stand a watch I prefer the 12-4 since
there is absolutely no one down there fooling with anything between
midnight and 4AM and from Noon to 1PM.

JIM

Sai...@dircon.co.uk

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:02:28 GMT, jim...@thegrid.net (Jaydee) wrote:


>.
>
>Good ole days. Back in the 70's we ran the Sealand SL-7's with three
>people on a watch. Two licensed engineers and a junior engineer. The SL-
>7's had two 60,000 HP steam turbines with one boiler for each engine.
>Speed 33kts. BTW - If I have to stand a watch I prefer the 12-4 since
>there is absolutely no one down there fooling with anything between
>midnight and 4AM and from Noon to 1PM.
>
>JIM


Yeah you're right. I used to love the 12-4 when I was Second Mate.
Everyone else was asleep, and I could get on with the job without any
interfering Senior Officers about. Of course, now that I'M a senior
officer it's different..... :-)

Stan and Wendy Fensom

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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my first ship(1950) had chief engr, senior and junior seconds, senior and
junior thirds, fourth engr, fifth,sixth and seventh, three day work
juniors, two reefer engrs, and a lekkie. When entering and leaving port,
apart from the reefer engrs, we were all busy until well after "full away"
stan fensom.


i. nilsson

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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On 30 Aug 1998 01:05:43 GMT, "Stan and Wendy Fensom"
<fen...@netspace.net.au> wrote:

==============================

British and Commonwealth ships usually had larger crew than
Scandinavian ones. A typical Scandinavian cargoliner or tanker from
this period would have had Ch.Eng., 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th (maybe), 4-6
oilers/motormen (3 of which were watchkeepers), 1-2 apprentices,
1 fitter, 1 lekkie.

I am at present serving as Chief on a 50.000 tons car carrier. The
engine crew, beside myself, consists of 3 engineers, 2 motormen, 1
fitter, 1 lekkie, 1 apprentice. Being UMS, this is regarded as being
on the excessive side................

= = = = =
ingemar

Jon

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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> In the 'Good Old Days' before UMS
What is UMS?

Thank you,
Jon

Jon

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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> BTW - If I have to stand a watch I prefer the 12-4 since
> there is absolutely no one down there fooling with anything between
> midnight and 4AM and from Noon to 1PM.
Ain't that the truth!
I dug the 4-8's. Breakfast was the best meal of the day and everybody
was at work when you went to eat at 8:00 a.m.!
___
Jon

i. nilsson

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Sai...@no-spam.dircon.co.uk

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