There were 261 YES votes and 43 NO votes, for a total of 304 valid
votes. There were 2 abstentions and 17 invalid ballots.
For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid
(YES and NO) votes. There must also be at least 100 more YES votes
than NO votes.
A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no
serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the
moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly
thereafter.
Newsgroups line:
misc.transport.air-industry.cargo Questions/comments regarding air cargo. (Moderated)
Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 30 Jul 1996.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about this proposal should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: Michal Douglas <airc...@cris.com>
Proponent: Martin Brennan <bre...@interport.net>
Votetaker: Dave Cornejo <da...@dogwood.com>
RATIONALE: misc.transport.air-industry.cargo
The air industry is well supported in the areas of recreational flight
by several very good newsgroups. The commercial air industry is
likewise well supported in the area of general passenger airline
information. All that is missing is the existence of a newsgroup
dedicated to the air cargo and freight forwarding industry. Currently,
air cargo makes up more than 35% of the total value of all goods
shipped anywhere in the world and employs thousands. Questions and
comments realated to the operations of domestic and international air
carriers would be discussed as well as addressing the interests of
small package air freight companies. The air related interests of the
freight forwarding community would also be discussed as there is no
existing source for exchange of this information.
CHARTER: misc.transport.air-industry.cargo
Discussion will be allowed on a variety of subjects deemed either too
specific in nature or inappropriate by the charters of the existing
newsgroups. Individuals and companies will be allowed to request and
trade information and comments on the status of the air cargo
industry. Exportation questions would be addressed for the beginner
as well as specific inquires by shippers. (i.e. "Who supplies ground
handling in Merida, Mexico?" or "How do I clear customs in
Austrailia?") Shared experiences of both the air cargo and forwarding
community would provide immensely helpful information to each other in
regard to the do's and don'ts of dealing with unfamiliar airports,
cultures, regulations, companies, procedures, and governments.
Discussions of a political/violent/inflammatory/abusive nature will
not be allowed. Any blatant advertisements, illegal rate discussions,
or overblown press releases will likewise be excluded by the
moderators. This is not a group in which general aviation or
passenger flights may be discussed - there are other groups for those
categories. This group is purely intended for those who own, import,
export, operate in, or are interested in the business of air cargo and
domestic/international air shipping procedures. The group will be
moderated by experts in the field of air cargo and freight forwarding.
They will insure the validity of posts and eliminate repetitive,
redundant, illegal, and obviously inappropriate posts. All
nationalities of airlines will be allowed. The language of the group
will be English.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: misc.transport.air-industry.cargo
Moderator: Jim Powell <jpo...@ix.netcom.com>
Moderator: Martin Brennan <bre...@interport.net>
Moderator: Michal Douglas <airc...@cris.com>
Administrative contact address: airc...@cris.com
Article submission address: airc...@cris.com
END MODERATOR INFO.
DISTRIBUTION:
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alt.disasters.aviation
misc.transport.air-industry
sci.aeronautics.airliners
rec.aviation.ifr
rec.aviation.piloting
Pointers to the CFV will be posted by the proponent in:
alt.business.import-export.services
rec.aviation.owning
rec.aviation.marketplace
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misc.transport.air-industry.cargo Final Voter list
Voted YES
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mul...@ssdnet.com.ar MULTICARGO USA INC.
east...@omen.com.au Graeme Eastman
dgr...@ozemail.com.au David Griffiths
to...@zip.com.au Tony Clifford
HelperGod...@innet.be Urd-sama's Desk
J.No...@innet.be Jos Nolens
avia...@mtec.com.br Aviation On Line
ae...@freenet.carleton.ca Nigel Allen
jsm...@direct.ca Jim Smith
dli...@abcs.com Dan Litman
R...@aeilogis.com
RTM/PL...@aeilogis.com
alex...@alexmain.com WebMaster at Alexander
Dick_Do...@amrcorp.com Dick Dougherty
A3...@aol.com
Aero...@aol.com
AMill...@aol.com
ArtHa...@aol.com
Captd...@aol.com
Carg...@aol.com
Check...@aol.com
CPA...@aol.com
Craig...@aol.com
DataM...@aol.com Fred Luessen
dfult...@aol.com DFulton169
Dog...@aol.com
DWP1...@aol.com
EHPo...@aol.com
Gil...@aol.com
Gkfi...@aol.com
LOGI...@aol.com
Lun...@aol.com
Mike...@aol.com
NAV...@aol.com
PL...@aol.com
Racr...@aol.com
RGra...@aol.com
Rin...@aol.com
SCA...@aol.com
SWM...@aol.com
User1...@aol.com
bla...@AtlanticAir.com Mark A. Blanton
r...@icabod.ih.att.com
gar...@avhome.com Garret Wilkerson
4...@research.bell-labs.com Bob Fourer
luke...@bga.com Luke Ross
a...@bmsi.com Ad Brault
cwhe...@ccnet.com C. Wheeler
ltlf...@ccnet.com Donald B Littlefield
k...@chicago.com Karl Swartz
z...@cjnetworks.com Ned
cabl...@coastnet.com Avi8tr
10025...@CompuServe.COM Tim Harris
10041...@CompuServe.COM Prohotel Cons
10162...@CompuServe.COM dan willink
10233...@CompuServe.COM Reid A. Olson
7073...@CompuServe.COM Marcia Jedd
76054...@CompuServe.COM Jim Rand
jga...@connecti.com Jim Gansle
pf...@cris.com Charles Adler
serr...@cris.com Vincent DiPilato
Tre...@ctt.com Treftz, Henry .
guns...@datasync.com Jerry L. Giles
hedw...@dcci.com Henry & Linda Edwards
su...@kahala.ENET.dec.com Rick ..... Time to turn up the heat! (outside)
j...@deepcove.com STEVE McDONALD
p...@DEJLAW.COM PATRICIA N. SNYDER (3195)
hard...@erols.com Peter N. & Eleanor B. Randrup
ewa...@ewas.com East-West Air Services Co., Ltd.
jo...@firstnethou.com J.W. Williams
aker...@htfn.geis.com
annunz...@htfn.geis.com
carg...@htfn.geis.com
dav...@htfn.geis.com
glavi...@htfn.geis.com
lie...@htfn.geis.com
robe...@htfn.geis.com
schub...@htfn.geis.com
mik...@gnn.com Michael Russo
ra...@goodnet.com Ron Wright
ni...@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri
d...@watson.ibm.com David W. Levine
tas...@watson.ibm.com Carvalho
a...@idirect.com Abbas Atrvash
ma...@iglou.com Matthew Clay Coleman
tes...@indirect.com T.E.S.T. Inc.
elbo...@infobahnos.com
dap...@infotechsys.com Daphne Blount
mar...@infotechsys.com Marcia Hopkins
mic...@infotechsys.com Michael Corfman
mi...@infotechsys.com Michael Sarrafian
syl...@infotechsys.com Sylvia Corfman
wi...@infotechsys.com Will J. Flynt
Christian...@ccm.ch.intel.com Christian W Butler
pa...@interlog.com Paxil
ji...@internorth.com Jim Cameron
lst...@interserve.com Larry Stone
tna...@ally.ios.com Frank Nail
xau...@itsnet.com Jeff Ford
c...@juno.com Christopher J Palmer
c...@loiosh.kei.com Christopher Davis
j...@kha.com Jim Doyle
al...@map.com Allan Taylor
qc...@metronet.com Stuart Gurnea
forc...@atl.mindspring.com Force Ten
ronnie...@mogur.com Ronnie Grant
Pl...@msn.com Pamela Long
Sur...@msn.com Bob McLaughlin
jne...@net1plus.com Jeffrey Newbro
av...@ix.netcom.com
bag...@ix.netcom.com Spectre Gunner
bri...@ix.netcom.com Brian O'Halloran
dav...@ix.netcom.com DAVID FLOREK
hou...@ix.netcom.com Rainer Houdek
jgre...@ix.netcom.com Jerry Green
jpo...@ix.netcom.com Jim Powell
skis...@ix.netcom.com Christop Robinson
ss...@ix.netcom.com STERILIZATION SYSTEMS, INC
jba...@north.nsis.com John G Baker
mjp...@opsys.nwa.com Martin J. Pekarna
bmc...@nwa.com Brian \"BC\" Carstens
jam...@nwa.com Julie A. McKnight
pat...@nwa.com Pam Toborg
rjs...@nwa.com Ron Strain
smz...@nwa.com Sheila
Vincent...@nwa.com Vince Puccia
tka...@o2facial.com Ted Kalli
r...@one-rbs-plaza.com Rational Business Systems
p_ham...@usa.pipeline.com Paul Hamilton
k...@shell.portal.com Kim DeVaughn
car...@primenet.com Monty D. Martin
Sals...@prodigy.com MELISSA P PRICHARD
AC...@mclean.sccsi.com Jack Wang
AN...@mclean.sccsi.com Andrew Ryan
A...@mclean.sccsi.com Carol Stithem
BE...@mclean.sccsi.com Betty Lutz
FE...@mclean.sccsi.com ANGEL F. JIMENEZ
LY...@mclean.sccsi.com LYNN FLESSAS
MI...@mclean.sccsi.com Mike Palmer
NI...@mclean.sccsi.com NICK NICHOLS
P...@mclean.sccsi.com PL RAJAN
RON...@mclean.sccsi.com
SA...@mclean.sccsi.com SANDY WRIGHT
SOL...@mclean.sccsi.com DAVID B. SOLOFF
TO...@mclean.sccsi.com TONI LANDSMAN
VE...@mclean.sccsi.com VENUS A. ROBINSON
cia...@sicoar.com comercio internacional al dia
nogo...@starnetinc.com Marketing
tela...@syspac.com Eric Maillet
bob_w...@t-t.com Consultant
ari...@taronga.com Stephanie da Silva
j...@tciconsult.com Jack W. Tyniec
Feeg...@TECHMATICS.COM Feege_Ed
tst...@teleport.com Terry Strand
aand...@televar.com Albert E. Anderson
Be...@PO4.EA.unisys.com Beach, Brian L EA
air...@air.ups.com Kris Berry
air...@air.ups.com Kenneth H Gantz
so...@wall.com Carlos A. Soto
ke...@wimsey.com Ken Martin
lrb...@winternet.com Larry Berg
ac...@gonzo.wolfenet.com Air Cargo Mgt/CARGO FACTS
na...@mips.pfalz.de Christian Weisgerber
an...@informatik.uni-koeln.de Juergen Antes
but...@yvax.byu.edu but...@yvax.byu.edu
cl...@columbia.edu Christopher Lodge Stamper
wolp...@cwis.isu.edu Jim Wolper
zbac...@kumc.edu Zewudie Bachore
a...@bronze.lcs.mit.edu andrew michael boardman
ke...@atc.ll.mit.edu Ken Saunders
coh...@MSUS1.MSUS.EDU Jerry Cohen
mart...@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU Dave M
aa...@seorf.ohiou.edu Jonathan Prince
jaal...@cs1.presby.edu J. Alan Alexander
cd...@ludell.uccs.edu Charlie Shub
da...@umbc.edu Mr. Damon Kelly
tmi...@umabnet.ab.umd.edu Thomas H Miller
cst...@math.unm.edu Chris Stone
BUTL...@UVSC.EDU Rusty Butler
acun...@csugrad.cs.vt.edu Bahadir Acuner
d...@bemarnet.es Dietmar J. Stefitz
920...@hemuli.helbp.fi Antti Ellonen
kas...@sci.fi Juha Paulavuo
arc...@hsc.fr Vincent Archer
Arman.V...@lri.fr Arman Voskanian
ph...@nucleus.fr PH DOMINIAK
mar...@anduin.ocf.llnl.gov Jeanne T Martin
mce...@avd00.larc.nasa.gov Marcus O. McElroy
j...@drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark
m...@cospo.osis.gov Michael B. Toth
Russell.W...@tva.gov Russell Patterson (X-6857)
ch...@compulink.gr Antonis Chatziapostolou
api...@public.srce.hr Anthony Piskovic
qfl...@indigo.ie Alen O'Neill
pend...@galactica.it Flavio Macchietto
scro...@leoserver.cdc.polimi.it Giovanni Scrofani
d...@innet.lu Dave Martin
die...@innet.lu Dieter Gerecke
cova...@infosel.net.mx Eduardo J. Iturbide
houn...@1stnet.net Chris and Stefanie Rowland
jgo...@accessus.net Jeffrey Goode
dc8...@airmail.net Ray Clawson
jeh...@ais.net James E. Hobbs
fla...@aloha.net John Hong
4BA...@worldnet.att.net Basil Sadler
cds...@worldnet.att.net Patrick Briggs
blp...@cco.net Gary H Kaufman
raq...@cerf.net Raquel Garcia
hpr...@cyberhighway.net Herman L. Price
cuh...@cyberramp.net Jeff Mullowney
sac...@dibbs.net Tom Greer
danf...@earthlink.net Daniel Frank
ges...@ee.net Gordon E. Smith
sky...@enterprise.net skyline aviation ltd.
inte...@gate.net Paolo Cesana @ MIF
a...@hic.net
ml...@ibm.net Mark Lyon
e_en...@ids.net Endre Enyedy
dah...@iglobal.net Chris Dahler
eg...@iglobal.net
ssi...@ilhawaii.net Steve Simon
air...@norfolk.infi.net Charlie Braden
pric...@norfolk.infi.net Sid
bre...@interport.net Martin Brennan
la...@lava.net Mama Lani
Art...@mediasoft.net Richard Artus
ste...@miracle.net
rath...@worf.netins.net Sethu R Rathinam
gr...@netvoyage.net Greg Fruik
dutchai!goo...@relay.NL.net Wim de Gooijer
ans...@pb.net Michael Anselmo
mcl...@alpha1.phoenix.net Mclean Cargo
lone...@scican.net Al Klein
mti...@skyenet.net Chris Pedevilla
fred...@southeast.net Paul Fredrickson
fly...@sover.net Michael C. Wister
j...@tiac.net John Boland
j...@bart.nl John Gerits
0501...@student.EUR.NL
r.ham...@vba.nl Roland J. Hamacher
eeik...@nippy1.rn.mbs.no egil eikanger
rj...@cpcug.org Rex Edwards
ACHE...@iata.org ACHESON Bill
Bra...@iata.org BRAUN Ted
CH...@iata.org CHAN Joseph
MCCUL...@iata.org MCCULLOCH Neil
Mil...@iata.org MILLS Colin
wel...@portseattle.org Bob Wells
JJ...@SYLVANIA.SEV.ORG Joe J. Budion
jv...@tincan.tincan.org John van Veen
lin...@bahnhof.se Jan Lindahl
PI...@pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk Paul Whiteman
ppre...@cix.compulink.co.uk Peter Prescott
ga...@gpears.demon.co.uk Gary M Pearson
mar...@judkins.demon.co.uk Martin Judkins
ni...@lofgren.demon.co.uk "Niels M. Sampath"
ni...@netwiz.demon.co.uk Nick Gassman
ph...@richarsn.demon.co.uk Phil Richardson
mar...@roferma.demon.co.uk Marcelo Rosenbaum
jri...@ttsl.co.uk Jason Riley
Voted NO
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crl...@freenet.carleton.ca Colin R. Leech
stai...@bga.com Dwight Brown
ebr...@coil.com Jim Ebright
Ka...@crl.com Karl Golub
bo...@datasync.com Martin H. Booda
l...@zk3.dec.com Larry Smith
d...@bwalk.dm.com Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
al...@interaccess.com Alex Schneider
hr...@rocza.kei.com Helen Trillian Rose
jo...@kodak.com John Hall
slr...@mindspring.com
ol...@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar
rom...@netcom.com John Rompel
rossix!dav...@openlink.one-o.com David Moore
TJAS...@us.oracle.com TJASKIEW.US.ORACLE.COM
pie...@shell.portal.com Pierre Uszynski
m...@sq.com
tb...@sybase.com Tony Basoglu
JAV...@tgv.com Javier Henderson
ml...@andrew.cmu.edu Michael Loomis
ma...@po.CWRU.Edu Michael A. Chary
py...@grove.iup.edu Matt Schnierle
pa...@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti
kh...@cs.nyu.edu Hasnain Khan
jkr...@CS.Princeton.EDU Joshua Kramer
vi...@cs.rice.edu Vivek Sadananda Pai
mtki...@MailBox.Syr.Edu Matthew T. Kinney
ri...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller
go...@ecf.toronto.edu GOPAL Ganapathiraju Sree Ramana
il...@ncar.ucar.edu Ilana Stern
afa...@umich.edu Andrew Philip Fabbro
pal...@umich.edu
ollivie...@eurocontrol.fr Ollivier Robert
mso...@mistik.express.net Mustafa Soysal MS57
r...@ham.island.net
jo...@handel.jlc.net John Leslie
dhar...@mcs.net Dan Hartung
sh...@nyx.net Shrisha Rao
fn...@odyssee.net Thomas Moll
gan...@rahul.net William Wu
csa...@urc.tue.nl Michiel Wijers
tla...@amug.org Todd C. Lawson
o...@pell.chi.il.us Orc
Abstained
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as...@ecn.purdue.edu Eduardo Asbun
wa...@ebird.demon.co.uk Walter Hayward
Invalid ballots
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"ke...@main.ismi.net"@ismi.net Kevin T. Quincy
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Kevin....@arts.monash.edu.au DR KEVIN O'CONNOR
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10064...@CompuServe.COM Stavros Evangelakakis
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airc...@cris.com Michal Douglas
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KATH...@cris.com KATHLEEN HAWK NORMAN
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scand...@htfn.geis.com
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ewi...@ix.netcom.com Edward R. Williams
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st...@ix.netcom.com Stanley Pearl
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CWN...@prodigy.com MR JAMES S HARKER
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jqui...@cs1.presby.edu Jeff Quinton
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ha...@netshop.net hare
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mcle...@netvoyage.net Imelda Galindo
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