Re: Cost of Joe Biden's open borders: $200 billion, paid by you

[Women Aren't Real According To Democrats]

In article <sro1vf$84j8$7...@news.freedyn.de>
governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
>

An internal City Hall memo says Biden’s open border will cost
New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next
year, double Mayor Adams’ previous estimate.
And those costs won’t stop even if Washington magically decides
to start enforcing the immigration laws — because millions are
already here.

One of the reasons the number is so high is New York’s “right to
shelter” law, which requires the city to house all comers. But
even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.

A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.

Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each
illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden’s orders,
Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.

Add in another 1 million got-aways — border infiltrators who
were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but
not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands’ full
dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in
knowing they’d be released — and the lifetime cost for taxpayers
soars past $200 billion.

<https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
200-billion-paid-by-you/>

[Bob F]

That's the righties imaginary "Open border".

[Governor Swill]

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It's fine to have one.
It's fine to be proud of it.
But please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around.

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

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[Mattb]

On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:

The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
from other than a entry point?

[Skeeter]

In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhm...@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...

>
> On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:05:08 -0700, Bob F <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
> >> In article <sro1vf$84j8$7...@news.freedyn.de>
> >> governo...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as invaders.
> >>>
> >>

> >> An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost

> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next

> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
> >> And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
> >> already here.
> >>
> >> One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
> >> shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But

> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
> >>
> >> A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
> >> net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
> >>
> >> Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each

> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,

> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
> >>

> >> Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who

> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but

> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full

> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in

> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers

> >> soars past $200 billion.
> >>
> >> <https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
> >>
> >
> >That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
>
> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
> from other than a entry point?

I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.

[%]

so if i kick you in the nuts ,
i have to kick myself in the nuts

[Siri Cruise]

Mattb wrote:
>> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
> from other than a entry point?

What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.

https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/

In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
this isn’t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
deportation — and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.

--
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 2.0 / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohammed

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mattb wrote:
>>> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
>> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
>> from other than a entry point?
>
>What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.

Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.

https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200

[Yak]

Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.

[Mitchell Holman]

Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
news:MPG.3e9b508a1...@usnews.blocknews.net:

Why is Melania still here?

She violated the terms of her
tourist visa, she worked without
permission, where was the deportation,
where was the prosecution?




Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks
in the US, documents show
November 05, 2016

WASHINGTON – Melania Trump was paid for 10 modeling
jobs in the United States worth $20,056 that occurred
in the seven weeks before she had legal permission to
work in the country, according to detailed accounting
ledgers, contracts and related documents from 20 years
ago provided to The Associated Press.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/05/trumps-wife-worked-illegally-
during-her-first-weeks-in-us-documents-show.html

http://tinyurl.com/gtnck9e

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

I don't know if we'd have to do that. The military's job is to protect
the country from invaders.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 18:32:40 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<noe...@verizon.net> wrote:

> Why is Melania still here?
>
> She violated the terms of her
>tourist visa, she worked without
>permission, where was the deportation,
>where was the prosecution?

You owe her reparations for all the abuse she suffered.

Pay up, bigot.

[Skeeter]

In article <qcycnZXbCMnYPqz5...@giganews.com>, pursent100
@gmail.com says...

but you would have to kick yourself first therefore causing a paradox.

[Skeeter]

In article <u0sah5$1bmss$1...@dont-email.me>, chine...@www.yahoo.com
says...

>
> Mattb wrote:
> >> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
> > The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
> > from other than a entry point?
>
> What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
>

Block the border, turn back or arrest anyone who tries to cross
illegally. Background checks. You know, stuff that works.

[Skeeter]

In article <u0sbrc$1bbvc$4...@dont-email.me>, Y...@inbox.com says...

Hell just deputize those already living there, they would be happy to
join in.

[Skeeter]

In article <rrd33ih2du8d12ebr...@Schadenfreude.com>,
klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com says...

DUH!

[Skeeter]

In article <XnsAFE08A3494EF9...@69.80.101.53>,
noe...@verizon.net says...

Your obsession with Trump overwhelms your concern for the country. No
wonder we are going down the toilet.

>
>
>
>
> Trump's wife worked illegally during her first weeks
> in the US, documents show
> November 05, 2016
>

> WASHINGTON ? Melania Trump was paid for 10 modeling

[Skeeter]

In article <ovd33i189e2vttcph...@Schadenfreude.com>,
klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com says...

He is full of "BUTWHATABOUT"

[Mattb]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
by progressive prosecutors.

Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
Democrats.

[Mattb]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mattb wrote:
>>> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
>> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
>> from other than a entry point?
>
>What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
>
>https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
>
>In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
>their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
>this isn’t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
>deportation — and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
>million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
>descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
>known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
>though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.

That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
open the border to all illegals?

[Skeeter]

In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201q...@4ax.com>, trdell12345

In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.

[Skeeter]

In article <q4g33ilf9rl1an7dh...@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...

>
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Mattb wrote:
> >>> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
> >> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
> >> from other than a entry point?
> >
> >What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
> >
> >https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
> >
> >In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
> >their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But

> >this isn?t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
> >deportation ? and its reality. It is estimated that about 2

> >million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
> >descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
> >known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
> >though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
>
> That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
> open the border to all illegals?

Millions crossing and he thinks 3 examples outweighs that?

[Siri Cruise]

So you are illiterate. You want to kick a million americans out of
the country for the High Crime of walking while brown.

[Siri Cruise]

Yak wrote:
> Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.

You forgot to call dibs on goatherders.

[Siri Cruise]

Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Mattb wrote:
>>>> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
>>> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
>>> from other than a entry point?
>>
>> What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
>
> Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.

No answer as usual. Outside Tennessee, Florida, and other places
gunnuts run free, mass murder is illegal.

[Siri Cruise]

Mattb wrote:
> The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
> by progressive prosecutors.
>
> Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
> Democrats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp5JCrSXkJY

There's something happening here
But what it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
A-telling me I got to beware

I think it's time we stop
Children, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going down

There's battle lines being drawn
And nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Are gettin' so much resistance from behind

It's time we stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going down

What a field day for the heat (Ooh-ooh-ooh)
A thousand people in the street (Ooh-ooh-ooh)
Singing songs and a-carryin' signs (Ooh-ooh-ooh)
Mostly say, "Hooray for our side" (Ooh-ooh-ooh)

It's time we stopped
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going down

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life, it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the man come and take you away
You might also like

We better stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going
We better stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going
We better stop
Now, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going
We better stop
Children, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going down

[Skeeter]

In article <u0sktg$1d6qq$3...@dont-email.me>, chine...@www.yahoo.com
says...

>
> Mattb wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
> > <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mattb wrote:
> >>>> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
> >>> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
> >>> from other than a entry point?
> >>
> >> What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
> >>
> >> https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
> >>
> >> In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
> >> their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But

> >> this isn?t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
> >> deportation ? and its reality. It is estimated that about 2

> >> million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
> >> descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
> >> known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
> >> though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
> >
> > That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
> > open the border to all illegals?
>
> So you are illiterate. You want to kick a million americans out of
> the country for the High Crime of walking while brown.

Simple liberal milked down response. It has nothing to do with skin
color. There are Chinese crossing both borders, there are people from
Syria crossing. No one knows anything about them. We get to feed and
house them while our vets starve on the street. Use a legal entry point,
do a background check. You know, shit that works?

[Skeeter]

In article <u0skts$1d6qq$5...@dont-email.me>, chine...@www.yahoo.com
says...

>
> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
> > <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Mattb wrote:
> >>>> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
> >>> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
> >>> from other than a entry point?
> >>
> >> What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
> >
> > Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
>
> No answer as usual. Outside Tennessee, Florida, and other places
> gunnuts run free, mass murder is illegal.

Who said anything about murder? Oh you did. You liberals like to talk
around the topic.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:05:00 -0700, Siri Cruise

<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mattb wrote:
>>>>> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
>>>> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
>>>> from other than a entry point?
>>>
>>> What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
>>
>> Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
>
>No answer as usual.

I guess you're too stupid to understand that the solution is

>>Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.

Was it the three multi-syllable words that confused you?

>Outside Tennessee, Florida, and other places
>gunnuts run free, mass murder is illegal.

Show us the states where mass murder is legal.

Right here ---->



"We have federal regulations and state laws that prohibit hunting
ducks with more than three rounds. And yet it's legal to hunt humans
with 15-round, 30-round, even 150-round magazines."
- Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-California) ,March 7 Senate Judiciary
Committee hearing on gun control

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 15:23:11 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

I guess we know what Siri would do if she ever got a gun in her hands.

[Tim Smith]

Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.

I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
through the courts they came up with their own plan.

They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
return till 6 PM or so.

They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
stuff into the house and changed the locks.

When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.

Problem solved.


--
Tim Smith

[Tim Smith]

Correct.

There are basically 2 types of migrants.

1. Those who just want to come here, start a new life, earn their living etc.
2. Those with criminal records, smuggling drugs etc. IOW bad people.

The first group get on US soil, sit down and wait for border control to find them and take them to
a processing center where they are checked out and given a paper to appear in court at a later date.
Most don't.

The solution is stay in Mexico until your paperwork is processed and you have a court date and
cross at a border point and go to court. Trump worked with the Mexican government to facilitate
this. He threatened to cut off trade with Mexico so Mexico had their military patrolling the
borders on the Mexico side.

Right now the borders are effectively open and those words come directly from the border patrol
agents.

--
Tim Smith

[Governor Swill]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:30:03 -0400, Yak <Y...@inbox.com> wrote:

I have a better idea. Start issuing green cards.

Swill
--
Religion is like a penis.
It's fine to have one.
It's fine to be proud of it.
But please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around.

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

[Governor Swill]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:04:55 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Yak wrote:
>> Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.
>
>You forgot to call dibs on goatherders.

The Great American West: A place where men are real men, women are real women and the
cattle are real nervous.

[Governor Swill]

We need the labor. In case nobody noticed, there's a labor shortage.

Swill
NP: En Vogue & Salt-N-Pepa - Whatta Man

[Tim Smith]

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.]

I don't disagree with that but it should be done legally.
We needed labor in the 1890's as well. Immigrants were legally offered citizenship and yes many
were taken advantage of, but as far as the law is concerned it was legal immigration.
Cough a couple of times or have a fever and you were sent back.

IOW controls were in place.

Right now, all of a sudden the number of Chinese immigrants crossing the border has skyrocketed.
You think they are all here to make wonton soup?

--
Tim Smith

[Mattb]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 13:41:52 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>

Yes I saw that in a news report. Criminals in CA have more rights
than the property owners. The again Democrats have no doubt changed
the definition of the word criminal. Wonder if it is that way in WA
State?

[Mattb]

They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be
fun to watch the freeloaders faces.

[Mattb]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 13:42:32 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

That is the new Democrats way the far-left radical way. Just don't
let the bother the wine store then the Dems would be up in arms.

[Mattb]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:04:48 -0700, Siri Cruise

<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mattb wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mattb wrote:
>>>>> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
>>>> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
>>>> from other than a entry point?
>>>
>>> What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
>>>
>>> https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
>>>
>>> In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
>>> their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
>>> this isn’t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
>>> deportation — and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
>>> million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
>>> descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
>>> known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
>>> though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
>>
>> That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
>> open the border to all illegals?
>
>So you are illiterate. You want to kick a million americans out of
>the country for the High Crime of walking while brown.

If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans. I would guess
you are one of the people who pay little to no taxes, so you believe
tax money is unlimited. I support a FLAT tax applied equally to all,
no matter their race, sex, or sexual orientation. Equal taxation and
equal justice are what I say.

I'm also a never-reparations person, until after the Native Americans
get theirs. They are owed before all others.

[Siri Cruise]

Tim Smith wrote:
> They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
> stuff into the house and changed the locks.
>
> When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
> same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.

I saw that episode as well.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6hen71

Waiting For God S03E05 The Estate Agent

[Siri Cruise]

Tim Smith wrote:
> They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
> stuff into the house and changed the locks.
>
> When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
> same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.

[Siri Cruise]

Mattb wrote:

> If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans. I would guess

They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. But
because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
strip them of their citizenship.

> you are one of the people who pay little to no taxes, so you believe
> tax money is unlimited. I support a FLAT tax applied equally to all,

So you can lose your citizenship if you're behind on taxes?

> no matter their race, sex, or sexual orientation. Equal taxation and
> equal justice are what I say.

And equal justice for people with darker skins is their
citizenship is conditional.

I understand why you hate CRT. If you were informed of past
crimes, you would have no excuse to commit those crimes again.

[Siri Cruise]

Mattb wrote:
>>>> In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
>>>> their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
>>>> this isn?t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
>>>> deportation ? and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
>>>> million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
>>>> descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
>>>> known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
>>>> though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
>>> That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
>>> open the border to all illegals?
>> Millions crossing and he thinks 3 examples outweighs that?
> That is the new Democrats way the far-left radical way. Just don't
> let the bother the wine store then the Dems would be up in arms.

You're still illiterate. Look a few lines up. 2 million were
deported, and 60% were americans, or about 1 million americans
deported from their own country.

And your only problem is not enough american citizens were deported.

And you're still an idiot.

[Michael McLean]

How did sexual orientation make its way into tax?

:-).





Michael

>
> I'm also a never-reparations person, until after the Native Americans
> get theirs. They are owed before all others.

--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

[Tim Smith]

Not a bad idea!
Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..

--
Tim Smith

[Skeeter]

In article <u0tesi$1jnlk$2...@dont-email.me>, chine...@www.yahoo.com
says...

>
> Mattb wrote:
>
> > If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans. I would guess
>
> They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. But
> because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
> strip them of their citizenship.

No one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?

>
> > you are one of the people who pay little to no taxes, so you believe
> > tax money is unlimited. I support a FLAT tax applied equally to all,
>
> So you can lose your citizenship if you're behind on taxes?

He never said that either. Why do you make shit up?

>
> > no matter their race, sex, or sexual orientation. Equal taxation and
> > equal justice are what I say.
>
> And equal justice for people with darker skins is their
> citizenship is conditional.

No one said that except you.

>
> I understand why you hate CRT. If you were informed of past
> crimes, you would have no excuse to commit those crimes again.

Who said he is? You sure spun your way around this one.

[Yak]

On 4/8/2023 2:51 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 14:30:03 -0400, Yak <Y...@inbox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/8/2023 2:09 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

>>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mattb wrote:

>>>>>> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
>>>>> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
>>>>> from other than a entry point?
>>>>

>>>> What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
>>>

>>> Stopping them from illegally crossing in the first place.
>>>
>>> https://images.newscientist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/14182517/PRI_204915508.jpg?width=1200
>>

>> Repeal Posse Comitatus. Place US troops on the border.
>

> I don't know if we'd have to do that. The military's job is to protect
> the country from invaders.

The military's job is to our protect our borders from invasions, which
is exactly what is happening.

[Mattb]

Yes radical-Democrats/progressives are paranoid about guns.

Even if you get your weapons ban how would you get the guns away
from current owner?

[Mattb]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mattb wrote:
>>>>> In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
>>>>> their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
>>>>> this isn?t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
>>>>> deportation ? and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
>>>>> million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
>>>>> descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
>>>>> known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
>>>>> though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.
>>>> That was wrong but you are saying because of three cases we need
>>>> open the border to all illegals?
>>> Millions crossing and he thinks 3 examples outweighs that?
>> That is the new Democrats way the far-left radical way. Just don't
>> let the bother the wine store then the Dems would be up in arms.
>
>You're still illiterate. Look a few lines up. 2 million were
>deported, and 60% were americans, or about 1 million americans
>deported from their own country.

Depression-era missed that. Well this is 2023 not 1930.

>
>And your only problem is not enough american citizens were deported.

Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.

Then there is what was done to Japanese Americans that was just
wrong. That was ordered done by the Democrats.

Even slavery was committed when Democrats were in power.

These were wrongs and not a excuse for present wrongs even if the
Democrats radicals believe so.

BTW is the above taught in liberal run schools?

>
>And you're still an idiot.

You are a radical far-left fool. I'm just glad it looks like the
Cancel and Woke mob is losing power even in many big cities. Now we
just need to get the far-left to pay their share of taxes and stop
whining about how they should be owed. They are owed nothing. Get a
job and earn what you get. I know that isn't what they are taught in
schools anymore — heaven forbid they have any idea what personal
responsibility is.

[Mattb]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:01 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mattb wrote:
>
>> If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans. I would guess
>
>They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. But
>because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
>strip them of their citizenship.

Are you talking about today or 1930s?

>
>> you are one of the people who pay little to no taxes, so you believe
>> tax money is unlimited. I support a FLAT tax applied equally to all,
>
>So you can lose your citizenship if you're behind on taxes?

No they just take everything you have and/or place you in jail.

I support a FLAT tax applied equally to all,
>

>> no matter their race, sex, or sexual orientation. Equal taxation and
>> equal justice are what I say.
>
>And equal justice for people with darker skins is their
>citizenship is conditional.

What has skin color got to do with any of this about taxes. You
seem to be very racist.

>
>I understand why you hate CRT. If you were informed of past
>crimes, you would have no excuse to commit those crimes again.

I'm Native American and I don't like it when 6-year-old white kids are
taught to feel guilt for events that happened over 100 years ago. I
also don't like the idea of kids being taught that they're owed for
events that happened before they were born.

I don't see you pushing for Native Americans to be given reparations
because if any race is owed reparations, it is they.

All people should be treated as equals, with limited respect for Race,
Sex, Religion, or Orientation. No one should receive preferential
treatment based on their Race, Sex, Religion, or Orientation.

[Mattb]

On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 09:38:24 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

That is the progressive Democrat way. IMO.
>

[Mattb]

Just covering all my bases here. I'm dealing with a radical
far-left Democrat and you never know.......

[Siri Cruise]

Mattb wrote:
>> They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. But
>> because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
>> strip them of their citizenship.
> No one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?

Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
millions?

[Siri Cruise]

Yak wrote:
> The military's job is to our protect our borders from invasions,
> which is exactly what is happening.

And dead goatherders are your acceptable collateral damage.

Nobody stops Texas sending its National Guard. So why aren't
trumpetting how successful that is?

[Siri Cruise]

Mattb wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
> Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
> Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.

You're blitherring to defend your bigotry.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 12:01:24 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Yak wrote:
>> The military's job is to our protect our borders from invasions,
>> which is exactly what is happening.
>
>And dead goatherders are your acceptable collateral damage.

How many goat herders are accidentally crossing the border?

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 11:57:41 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mattb wrote:
>>> They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. But
>>> because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
>>> strip them of their citizenship.
>> No one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
>
>Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
>millions?

What citizens are getting deported?

[Skeeter]

In article <u0v1r5$1qrhe$2...@dont-email.me>, chine...@www.yahoo.com
says...

>
> Mattb wrote:
> >> They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. But
> >> because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
> >> strip them of their citizenship.
> > No one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
>
> Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
> millions?

Where have I done that? Are you making up shit again?

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 09:30:38 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
>Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
>Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.

A conservative. You forget that the Democrats of that time were like the Republicans of
today. Hard line conservatives intent on taking care of themselves.

The Republicans, otoh, were the liberals of the day. Freeing the slaves, empowering the
individual, oh yes and expanding participation in the Dream. The GOP was the liberal
party in the 19th century.

Swill
NP: Foundations - Build Me Up Buttercup

[Governor Swill]

On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:

>If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.

Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
other than English.

Swill
NP: Jimmy Ruffin - What Becomes Of The Broken Hearted

[Skeeter]

In article <0k073ihqq88gkc7pm...@4ax.com>,
governo...@gmail.com says...

>
> On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
>
> Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
> here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
> other than English.

What people? All I see is you making a statement.

[Mattb]

On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim

The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to
freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.

[Mattb]

On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 12:11:35 -0700, Siri Cruise

<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mattb wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
>> Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
>> Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
>
>You're blitherring to defend your bigotry.

You've never heard of the ' trail of tears'? Then again you are
100% racist.

How many White and Black people currently live on land stolen from
Native Americans? Where are the reparations???

I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It wasn't until
I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
believe blacks have the right to be racist?

[Mattb]

On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:28:30 -0400, Governor Swill
<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 09:30:38 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
>>Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
>>Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
>
>A conservative. You forget that the Democrats of that time were like the Republicans of
>today. Hard line conservatives intent on taking care of themselves.

History records that he was a staunch Democrat, as were most
slave-owning elites. It appears that the Democrats are partial to
reinterpreting history to their advantage even of themselves.

>
>The Republicans, otoh, were the liberals of the day. Freeing the slaves, empowering the
>individual, oh yes and expanding participation in the Dream. The GOP was the liberal
>party in the 19th century.

Both parties have changed the Republican platform on the 1950s was
actually good.

The GOP started going bad when they became a party of fundamentalist
religious nutjobs.

I like some of what each party stands for. Yet for the most part,
both are about reed and power. The Dems just know how to buy votes at
taxpayer expense. The Republicans are only concerned with power, and
will do whatever it takes to get it. I'm afraid that, if these two
parties continue on this path, we're all going to lose.

[Mattb]

On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 11:57:41 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mattb wrote:
>>> They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. But
>>> because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
>>> strip them of their citizenship.
>> No one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
>
>Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
>millions?

When were these millions done? Under Biden? Was it the
Depression era? When.

I want to fix the current problem, I can't change the past, and none
coming over the border, are owed reparations.

[Skeeter]

In article <cp8b3it2rqd7p4k8c...@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...

They aren't owed anything.

[Mattb]

On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill
<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
>
>Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
>here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
>other than English.

Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go
back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
the history of the 1930s?

It is clear that you are being dishonest and a troll by editing the
thread.

[Skeeter]

In article <qpab3ip3fefbnm93m...@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...

It's the only way a liberal/atheist can "win".

[Siri Cruise]

Mattb wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill
> <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
>>
>> Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
>> here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
>> other than English.
>
> Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go
> back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
> the history of the 1930s?

Who would ever reference the past?

Mattb wrote:
> How many White and Black people currently live on land stolen
from
> Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
>

> I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
> racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It
wasn't until
> I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
> believe blacks have the right to be racist?

[Skeeter]

In article <u14jgv$2ndpi$3...@dont-email.me>, chine...@www.yahoo.com
says...

>
> Mattb wrote:
> > On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill
> > <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
> >>
> >> Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
> >> here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
> >> other than English.
> >
> > Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go
> > back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
> > the history of the 1930s?
>
> Who would ever reference the past?

And yet instead of answering the question you point a finger and yell
"BUTWHATABOUT".

[Michael McLean]

On 12/04/2023 3:56 am, Mattb wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 12:11:35 -0700, Siri Cruise
> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Mattb wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
>>> Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
>>> Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
>>
>> You're blitherring to defend your bigotry.
>
> You've never heard of the ' trail of tears'? Then again you are
> 100% racist.
>
> How many White and Black people currently live on land stolen from
> Native Americans? Where are the reparations???

Man is always saying, "This is our land." However, nothing belongs to
man, it all belongs to God!

It is His land!

> I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
> racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It wasn't until
> I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
> believe blacks have the right to be racist?

No one has.





Michael

--
Jesus is the everlasting Father, Jesus is God, Jesus is the Lord.

Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
YET sinners, Christ died for us.

Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it
is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

"To seek your own will is to seek your own glory."

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

"What makes the bible the truth? The resonance of God."

"All men were born sinners. Why? Because all men were born not loving
God with all their heart, soul and mind. An abomination. Therefore,
sin is not what you do, it is what you are."

"Compromise will condemn you."

"There are no sinners in Christ Jesus."

"My sons are born of Me. In them is no darkness at all."

"You can't learn righteousness. Haven't you had enough time already to
know that?"

"The way of truth is the testimony of life."

"I merely speak the truth, what is revealed to me, and the cards fall
where God intends."

"Nothing that is produced is produced without first being faith."

"You can only find proof of God through faith because that is how we all
live, by faith."

"It is not what you do that matters, it is how you treat Me."

"Keep going forward. Forget about the past. Lift up your head, look
ahead."

"You cannot be free with guilt in your heart."

"Priority is everything."

"The truth doesn't need evidence, it is evidence."

"There is no greater possession a man has than his own will, to squander
it or to place it where it truly belongs."

"An atheist is a fool who thinks truth is found in living a lie."

"Saying "prove it" [as a foundation] is merely an ignorant straw man, to
an ignorant straw man."

"Wait, rest, be still, and know."

"No man can wash his own hands!!!"

"I find this in the Christianity religions: 'Nobody's perfect' they say,
and they use that as an excuse not to do what is perfect."

The Atheist: "They don't believe and put their faith in a Creator (the
obvious). So no evidence and proof is to be found!!"

"The world is the way it is because God can't compromise who He is."

"Man is not the centre of being."

"Man is incompatible with the natural world because of his sinful nature."

"And then the Lord said, "I see everything."

"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not to have a book pass
through it so that you could play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"The Bible cannot baptize. No one was ever saved by reading the Bible.
Mechanical or methodical salvation is just more Pharisee bureaucracy.
Men are saved after their conviction, death sentence, and resurrection
in baptism--the baptism of the Holy Spirit." - Nightbulb

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: A man full of bluster and bullshit
pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

[Mattb]

On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 13:41:32 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Who are you replying to?

[Mattb]

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:27:20 +1000, Michael McLean
<michaelm...@outlook.com> wrote:

>On 12/04/2023 3:56 am, Mattb wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 12:11:35 -0700, Siri Cruise
>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mattb wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
>>>> Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
>>>> Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
>>>
>>> You're blitherring to defend your bigotry.
>>
>> You've never heard of the ' trail of tears'? Then again you are
>> 100% racist.
>>
>> How many White and Black people currently live on land stolen from
>> Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
>
>Man is always saying, "This is our land." However, nothing belongs to
>man, it all belongs to God!

Is it. Can you provide evidence?

[Mattb]

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 12:26:00 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Freeloaders always think they are owed. Ask the majority of city
Democrats.

[Mattb]

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 14:26:18 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

They claim they use logic and reason. That and the mob.

[Mattb]

On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 14:30:07 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mattb wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 23:30:16 -0400, Governor Swill
>> <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 08 Apr 2023 20:52:22 -0700, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If they have crossed illegally, they are not Americans.
>>>
>>> Pay attention to the thread, Matt. Those people were American citizens, born and bred
>>> here who were kicked out because they had brown skin and knew how to speak a language
>>> other than English.
>>
>> Now are you talking about the 3 or the million? You progressives go
>> back and forth on this issue. Are you talking about current news or
>> the history of the 1930s?
>
>Who would ever reference the past?
>
>Mattb wrote:
> > How many White and Black people currently live on land stolen
>from
> > Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
> >
> > I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
> > racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It
>wasn't until
> > I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
> > believe blacks have the right to be racist?

OK Did you have a point about saying we need a open border because
of a event that happened in the 1930s and hasn't happened again.

[Skeeter]

In article <m19b3i9oc5orhnp2n...@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...

I dunno, it's complicated.

[Skeeter]

In article <t4od3i92qt08u1ju8...@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...

The liberals don't know what they are saying.

[Yak]

On 4/6/2023 5:05 PM, Bob F wrote:
> On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
>> In article <sro1vf$84j8$7...@news.freedyn.de>
>> governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as
>>> invaders.
>>>
>>

>> An internal City Hall memo says Biden’s open border will cost

>> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next

>> year, double Mayor Adams’ previous estimate.
>> And those costs won’t stop even if Washington magically decides
>> to start enforcing the immigration laws — because millions are
>> already here.
>>
>> One of the reasons the number is so high is New York’s “right to
>> shelter” law, which requires the city to house all comers. But

>> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
>> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
>> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
>>
>> A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
>> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
>> net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
>> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
>>
>> Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each

>> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden’s orders,

>> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
>> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
>> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
>>

>> Add in another 1 million got-aways — border infiltrators who

>> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but

>> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands’ full

>> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in

>> knowing they’d be released — and the lifetime cost for taxpayers

>> soars past $200 billion.
>>
>> <https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
>> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
>>
>
> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".

2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not 'open
border' then what the hell is?

[Skeeter]

In article <u174b9$3ujns$1...@dont-email.me>, Y...@inbox.com says...

>
> On 4/6/2023 5:05 PM, Bob F wrote:
> > On 2/13/2023 4:11 AM, Women Aren't Real According To Democrats wrote:
> >> In article <sro1vf$84j8$7...@news.freedyn.de>
> >> governo...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Deploy the military and shoot down anybody crossing the border as
> >>> invaders.
> >>>
> >>

> >> An internal City Hall memo says Biden?s open border will cost

> >> New York City taxpayers $4.2 billion through the middle of next

> >> year, double Mayor Adams? previous estimate.
> >> And those costs won?t stop even if Washington magically decides
> >> to start enforcing the immigration laws ? because millions are
> >> already here.
> >>
> >> One of the reasons the number is so high is New York?s ?right to
> >> shelter? law, which requires the city to house all comers. But

> >> even without that provision, and even once the border-jumpers
> >> start working (legally or otherwise) and paying taxes, the net
> >> costs to taxpayers nationwide will be enormous.
> >>
> >> A few years back, the Center for Immigration Studies used data
> >> from the National Academies of Sciences to estimate the lifetime
> >> net fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for each
> >> illegal immigrant, not counting their US-born children.
> >>
> >> Adjusted for inflation, the lifetime cost to taxpayers of each

> >> illegal immigrant is over $80,000. Under Biden?s orders,

> >> Homeland Security has released into the United States nearly 2
> >> million illegal border-crossers (so far!), meaning their
> >> lifetime cost to taxpayers will be close to $150 billion.
> >>

> >> Add in another 1 million got-aways ? border infiltrators who

> >> were detected (by cameras or ground sensors or other means) but

> >> not apprehended because the Border Patrol had its hands? full

> >> dealing with all the illegal immigrants turning themselves in

> >> knowing they?d be released ? and the lifetime cost for taxpayers

> >> soars past $200 billion.
> >>
> >> <https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/cost-of-joe-bidens-open-borders-
> >> 200-billion-paid-by-you/>
> >>
> >
> > That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
>
> 2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not 'open
> border' then what the hell is?

A closed border means you walk or drive up to a border station and
legally present yourself for asylum. An open border is where you pay the
cartels for permission to cross and almost drown doing it and then just
being shuffled off with food stamps and no direction.

[Siri Cruise]

Yak wrote:
> 2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not
> 'open border' then what the hell is?

Why didn't the Texas National Guard stop them?

[Skeeter]

In article <u179f7$2ev6$1...@dont-email.me>, chine...@www.yahoo.com
says...

>
> Yak wrote:
> > 2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not
> > 'open border' then what the hell is?
>
> Why didn't the Texas National Guard stop them?

They are not allowed by your govt.

[Michael McLean]

On 13/04/2023 2:23 am, Mattb wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:27:20 +1000, Michael McLean
> <michaelm...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/04/2023 3:56 am, Mattb wrote:
>>> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 12:11:35 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mattb wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>>>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
>>>>> Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
>>>>> Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
>>>>
>>>> You're blitherring to defend your bigotry.
>>>
>>> You've never heard of the ' trail of tears'? Then again you are
>>> 100% racist.
>>>
>>> How many White and Black people currently live on land stolen from
>>> Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
>>
>> Man is always saying, "This is our land." However, nothing belongs to
>> man, it all belongs to God!
>
> Is it. Can you provide evidence?

MattB? Seriously?

Psa_24:1  The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world,
and they that dwell therein.

Is there a new dude on the scene out there with you? :-).





Michael

>>
>> It is His land!
>>
>>
>>> I might be slightly biased as I am Native American, and the most
>>> racist people while I was growing up were the Blacks. It wasn't until
>>> I started giving violence for violence that they stopped. Do you
>>> believe blacks have the right to be racist?
>>
>> No one has.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael

[Governor Swill]

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 16:29:29 -0400, Yak <Y...@inbox.com> wrote:

>2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not 'open
>border' then what the hell is?

You have Republicans to thank for that, so shut it.

Swill

[Skeeter]

In article <51oe3i98ojkvgicpu...@4ax.com>,
governo...@gmail.com says...

>
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 16:29:29 -0400, Yak <Y...@inbox.com> wrote:
>
> >2.76 million illegals crossed the border in 2022. If that's not 'open
> >border' then what the hell is?
>
> You have Republicans to thank for that, so shut it.
>
> Swill

How so? Explain why it's wasn't happening when Trump was in office.

[Mattb]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 10:26:33 +1000, Michael McLean

<michaelm...@outlook.com> wrote:

>On 13/04/2023 2:23 am, Mattb wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:27:20 +1000, Michael McLean
>> <michaelm...@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/04/2023 3:56 am, Mattb wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 12:11:35 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 21:28:06 -0700, Siri Cruise
>>>>>> <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, you forgot to mention the trail of tears. How many White and
>>>>>> Black people currently live on land stolen from Native Americans?
>>>>>> Where are the reparations??? This act also ordered by a Democrat.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're blitherring to defend your bigotry.
>>>>
>>>> You've never heard of the ' trail of tears'? Then again you are
>>>> 100% racist.
>>>>
>>>> How many White and Black people currently live on land stolen from
>>>> Native Americans? Where are the reparations???
>>>
>>> Man is always saying, "This is our land." However, nothing belongs to
>>> man, it all belongs to God!
>>
>> Is it. Can you provide evidence?
>
>MattB? Seriously?
>
>Psa_24:1  The earth is the LORD'S, and the fulness thereof; the world,
>and they that dwell therein.

Well, when a god comes to Earth and tells me this, I might listen.
Then again, when this was written, I doubt they used the word "Earth."
This would mean I am his property and slave, and yet he also
insinuates we have freewill. Slaves with freewill?

>
>Is there a new dude on the scene out there with you? :-).

Don't know you tell me. I've seen no proof from the theist or the
Atheist on this subject. They on both sides act like fundamentalist
nutjobs at times.

[Mattb]

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 11:21:15 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>

wrote:

>In article <m19b3i9oc5orhnp2n...@4ax.com>, trdell12345
>@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 13:41:32 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <u0v1r5$1qrhe$2...@dont-email.me>, chine...@www.yahoo.com
>> >says...
>> >>
>> >> Mattb wrote:
>> >> >> They were born here, grew up here, and were US citizens. But
>> >> >> because they had the wrong skin colour, bigots like you want to
>> >> >> strip them of their citizenship.
>> >> > No one said that. If they were born here why would they get deported?
>> >>
>> >> Why do you continue to excuse deporting US citizens even in the
>> >> millions?
>> >
>> >Where have I done that? Are you making up shit again?
>>
>> Who are you replying to?
>
>I dunno, it's complicated.

When HH little group get together, it can be easy to forget who said
what, with the way they edit the post. They'll take out the most
important parts of their conversation, leaving only the parts that
they want the rest of the group to see.

[Mattb]

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 11:23:47 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Don't think so, though they have been shown to be very racist toward
naive Americans. Though Blacks can do no wrong.

[Mattb]

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:36:12 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Don't forget free housing and medical care. In NYC, they get motels.
All for entering the USA by breaking the law. They are even given
driver's licenses, does that also allow them to vote? Will illegals be
given the right to vote in federal elections? BTW I do believe those
who legally have green cards should be allowed driver's licenses
although then they would not be illegal.

[Skeeter]

In article <eoeg3i184t9ad5t16...@4ax.com>, trdell12345

Oh so right. I notice a lot of snipping and avoiding here. Me personally
am on the fence about theism and atheism. I lean toward a creation but
also look deep into physics and stuff. I see issues with both sides. The
only reason I am here is because of how one sided these "atheists" are.
If they don't agree with you they either call you names or run or snip.
Tim and Yap are just kick toys for when I get bored.


Holman will be along soon with his sqwaking "PROVE IT"

[Skeeter]

In article <8ogg3idspdieldrk4...@4ax.com>, trdell12345

My first wife was from Mexico and my best friend is from El Salvador. He
came here across the desert. He worked hard and now he is legal and
loves it here. He even was proud he could work and pay taxes. But
because of how I voted I am a racist. I have a friend who is Navajo and
says reparations are stupid. Hell he get paid every month just because
he is an Indian. Maybe he's a racist too.

[Skeeter]

In article <hugg3idq0klvjbiit...@4ax.com>, trdell12345
@gmail.com says...

No but nothing will stop a liberal from "winning".

My friend from El Salvador gust got his green card and a workable SSN
and a driver license. He's been here 18 years and finally did it. He
says he is happy he can work a real job and pay taxes. He hates
liberals.

[Mattb]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 17:31:45 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>

The legal immigrants I know don't like Democrat policies, because
those policies are what caused their old country to be so screwed up.

[Mattb]

On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:07:33 -0700, Siri Cruise
<chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>Mattb wrote:
>>> That's the righties imaginary "Open border".

>> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
>> from other than a entry point?
>
>What is your legal solution? Deporting people is easy.
>
>https://time.com/5638586/us-citizens-deportation-raids/
>
>In all three of these recent headline-making cases, those with
>their citizenship status questioned were able to return home. But
>this isn’t the first time U.S. citizens have faced the threat of
>deportation — and its reality. It is estimated that about 2
>million people, 60% of whom were American citizens of Mexican
>descent, were removed to Mexico as part of a Depression-era effort
>known as repatriation, according to the state of California,
>though the exact number is unknown and estimates range.

Your solution is a open border. I see.

[Governor Swill]

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<proc...@here.now> wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
><trdel...@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3d...@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
>>>> Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201q...@4ax.com>, trdell12345
>>>>>> @gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhm...@4ax.com>, trdell12345

>>>>>>> >> >That's the righties imaginary "Open border".
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> The you would have no problem with deporting anyone that crosses
>>>>>>> >> from other than a entry point?
>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>> >I wouldn't. If we have to follow rules here so should they.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The rules do not apply to any that the progressives support,
>>>>>>> illegals, drug dealers, and users can rob and steal, and Druggie can
>>>>>>> also mug you for a fix. Even murder is to be excused in San Francisco
>>>>>>> by progressive prosecutors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Law abiding Americas have become second class citizens to the
>>>>>>> Democrats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In California if you leave your house for a couple weeks vaca and return
>>>>>> to find squatters there, you can't do shit but wait.
>>>>>
>>>>>Same in NYC. The police won't do a thing because the squatters produce documentation showing they
>>>>>own the house. They usually start by mailing letters to themselves. So if you happen to be selling
>>>>>a vacant house watch out if odd mail addressed to others starts showing up.
>>>>>
>>>>>I saw a segment on TV where this happened to a young couple who had just purchase a house. The day
>>>>>they planned on moving in people were already occupying the house. They called the police who
>>>>>couldn't do a thing. After hiring a lawyer and realizing it would take months if not years going
>>>>>through the courts they came up with their own plan.
>>>>>
>>>>>They kept watch on the house and noticed the occupants left every morning around 8 AM and didn't
>>>>>return till 6 PM or so.
>>>>>
>>>>>They waited till the squatters left, tossed all of their stuff out on the lawn and moved their own
>>>>>stuff into the house and changed the locks.
>>>>>
>>>>>When the squatters came home and realized what happened, they called the police who told them the
>>>>>same thing that they would have to go through the courts to have the occupants removed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Problem solved.
>>>>
>>>> They should start a TV show about people doing that. It would be
>>>> fun to watch the freeloaders faces.
>>>
>>>Not a bad idea!
>>>Personally I would go to the bad side of town and recruit some big, scary guys at $1k each to come
>>>along with me and toss the squatters out. Backed by my glock I think they would run like hell..
>>
>> The ACLU would go after you for violating the freeloader's right to
>>freeload. That is the New Democrats' (progressive) way.
>
>Republicans are insane.

I agree.

>No, actually they are predictability focused.

Insane does not equal stupid though you wouldn't know that to watch Republicans behave.

>They are all about votes to put their agenda into law.

Exactly. That's why Reagan's GOP made common cause with the Evangelicals and Trump's GOP
made common cause with the KKK and Nazis. It's all about the votes.

> A large number of them are dependent on government programs of
>some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
>stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
>those who have not earned it. Basically income
>redistribution.

Yup. Republican states are the poor ones and take the most help from Uncle Sam. I say
its time to stop block grants, revenue sharing or whatever else it's called these days. Go
ahead and shutdown the DofEd. That'll cost Mississippi alone 20% of it's education
funding state wide. Let red states pay their own bills for a change.

And next time Arkansas has a tornado, they can pay for the clean up themselves by
rescinding their latest tax cut. I see no reason for Washington (that means you and me)
to be picking up the tab for a state that's cutting it's own thro . . . er, taxes.

>These people look at what they have and support those they
>trust to continue the something for nothing policies.

Yup. They know Republicans will cut their taxes and find ways to make Democrats pay their
bills. I want to see their faces when the Dems finally get fed up and yell, "NO!"

> They
>line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
>even more, whether it is free medical care, college
>education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
>government provided income for all.

You should see 'em down at the food bank in their customized pick up trucks with 25"
chrome wires and neon under lighting, guzzling cold beer while waiting their turn for free
groceries.

>They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
>they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know
>nothing about economics and care even less.

Most of them don't even know how many Reps there are in Congress, how many Senators their
state has or how long a Presidential term is. But they still vote those "R" buttons.

>All they care
>about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
>month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
>understand or care that someone must pay
>somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
>money, their experience is that the government always has
>money, and they cannot conceive of anything else.

Which is why, when Republicans are in power, they borrow and spend like there's no
tomorrow. I mean, why not? It's not the taxpayers' money, it's their grandkids' money
and who gives a shit about them? Not Republicans. They lost their family values when
Newt divorced his wife to marry that bimbo he was carrying on with.

>Many of them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life

And those who have spend more energy and time cheating on their taxes than they would have
spent just earning a few more dollars.

>and as far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
>taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.

Correction: What they really think is that anybody paying taxes is a fool when there are
so many ways to cheat. Just ask that billionaire who, in four years, paid only $1500 in
income tax.

>They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
>their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,

Yup.

>and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they
>perceive as trying to end this situation.

Which explains their obsession with attacking the Clintons almost non stop for thirty
years.

>False
>accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
>barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
>free handouts.

Absolutely! Republicans have elevated dirty tricks to levels not imagined half a century
ago! Hell, when Trump ran in 2016, he was caught more than once taking three positions on
the same policy in one day!

>When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
>can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
>free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
>anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
>combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
>wealth to support the economy or a depression that
>will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
>day at Disneyland.

They almost did that in 2008. Fortunately the Federal Reserve (which the Democrats
invented) managed to prevent the total financial system collapse the Republicans caused
that made the Great Depression so deep and long.

>At any rate it will be time for all sane educated people who
>understand just what is going on to dig a hole, jump in, and
>pull it in after them.

I don't think the Dems will give up that easily. The Republicans might dig a hole, jump
in, and pull it in after them but the Dems have more sense than that.

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 03:16:27 -0400, Attila <<proc...@here.now> wrote:

>I have a problem with assholes who alter my posts. Liars
>such as those are actually showing they are unable to
>respond to what is written but must instead create a
>strawman they can then attack and show how wonderful they
>are,
>
>What they are really doing is showing how anything they
>touch is open to suspicion. Such people are not to be
>believed or trusted.
>
>Ever.

You know what happens when you insult people for no reason? You get your ass kicked and
you just got yours kicked.

Think twice the next time you start throwing around accusations that your party is at
least as guilty of.

[Skeeter]

In article <p90o3ihiq70t4275e...@4ax.com>,
governo...@gmail.com says...

>
> On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 03:16:27 -0400, Attila <<proc...@here.now> wrote:
>
> >I have a problem with assholes who alter my posts. Liars
> >such as those are actually showing they are unable to
> >respond to what is written but must instead create a
> >strawman they can then attack and show how wonderful they
> >are,
> >
> >What they are really doing is showing how anything they
> >touch is open to suspicion. Such people are not to be
> >believed or trusted.
> >
> >Ever.
>
> You know what happens when you insult people for no reason? You get your ass kicked and
> you just got yours kicked.
>
> Think twice the next time you start throwing around accusations that your party is at
> least as guilty of.
>
> Swill

Liberals edit and snip to run from the truth.

[Mattb]

On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:51:58 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>

Holman does that a lot and is also very racist. He also has a thing
for Trump. Posting with them (HH, Swill, Holman and Rudy the
progressive quartet) is like being in a tag match.

[Mattb]

On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 12:57:52 -0400, Attila <<proc...@here.now>
wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 11:02:06 -0700, Mattb
><trdel...@gmail.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
><9lj83i1k7vmghqv3d...@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:27:52 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
>>Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2023-04-09, Mattb <trdel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 00:57:02 GMT, Tim Smith <"Tim
>>>> Smith"@fakeemails.org> wrote:
>>>>

>>>>>On 2023-04-08, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> In article <rtf33i5j5dvd0201q...@4ax.com>, trdell12345
>>>>>> @gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 11:21:35 -0600, Skeeter <nom...@invalid.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >In article <9k633itr9vkl11uhm...@4ax.com>, trdell12345
>>>>>>> >@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>> >>

>Democrats are insane. No, actually they are predictability
>focused.

Not all. I live in the rural area of Washington and, as you might
imagine, there are significant differences between Democrats in this
area and those in the cities. For example, in this area, Democrats
often refer to the crazies as "City Democrats" or progressives, and
they tend to be pro-gun. However, most Democrats here are not as
radical as city Democrats (who are freeloaders), and they are more
willing to compromise.
>
>They are all about votes to put their agenda into law. A

>large number of them are dependent on government programs of
>some type such as Medicare, Social Security, welfare, food
>stamps, and dozens of other programs that give income to
>those who have not earned it. Basically income
>redistribution.
>

>These people look at what they have and support those they

>trust to continue the something for nothing policies. They

>line up in droves for those who will promise to give them
>even more, whether it is free medical care, college
>education, a higher minimum wage, or a minimum
>government provided income for all.
>

>They don't care where the money is coming from as long as
>they get their free stuff. Many if not most of them know

>nothing about economics and care even less. All they care

>about is whether or not they will get their free stuff this
>month and possibly more next month. Most of them cannot
>understand or care that someone must pay
>somewhere - as far as they are concerned it's government
>money, their experience is that the government always has

>money, and they cannot conceive of anything else. Many of
>them have never earned a taxable dollar in their life and as

>far as they are concerned anybody who makes enough to pay
>taxes is making too much and they are entitled to it.
>

>They will vote for anyone who promises them to continue
>their free stuff, and especially those who will add to it,

>and reflexively attack with any weapon handy anyone they

>perceive as trying to end this situation. False

>accusations, physical assaults, direct lies - nothing is
>barred and all is permitted in the name of continuing those
>free handouts.
>

>When this becomes the actual numerical majority so that they
>can vote into office anyone who supports their cause of more
>free stuff and politically (and sometimes literally) destroy
>anyone who stands in their way the result will be a
>combination of any or all of a war of aggression to gain
>wealth to support the economy or a depression that
>will make the Great Depression of the 1930's look like a
>day at Disneyland.
>