Proof of Divorce
angels....@gmail.com
am almost certain that he didn't. However, I need proof to present to
the Judge so that our marriage can be declared null and void. Does
anyone know how to go about doing this??
Paul Thomas, CPA
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There should be some court documents that were filed in the county of the
plaintiff (I think). That or go ask the supposedly first ex-wife.
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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia
angelsbreath
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It is true there would be documents, if he actually divorced her. But
I don't know where he would've actually divorced her. I have already
checked Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas and can find no records of a
divorce. However, I've only checked online and have no proof to
present in court. I guess I just don't understand what kind of proof
the judge will be looking for.
kastnna
> It is true there would be documents, if he actually divorced her. But
> I don't know where he would've actually divorced her. I have already
> checked Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas and can find no records of a
> divorce. However, I've only checked online and have no proof to
> present in court. I guess I just don't understand what kind of proof
> the judge will be looking for.
No divorce = No papertrail, got it. SO, instead of you proving that he
didn't divorce, why can't the judge compel your husband to prove that
he did. The original marriage certificate would serve as proof that he
got married. Give that to the judge and ask that he force your husband
to prove that the marriage was absolved.
angelsbreath
perfect, i actually thought of this idea myself a while back. i
already know he didn't divorce her and there won't be any proof that
he did. after all , he's still married to me (sort of) and already
moved on to wife number three. i just think the chances are very slim
that he will actually even show up to court, which could present yet
another problem.
kastnna
> perfect, i actually thought of this idea myself a while back. i
> already know he didn't divorce her and there won't be any proof that
> he did. after all , he's still married to me (sort of) and already
> moved on to wife number three. i just think the chances are very slim
> that he will actually even show up to court, which could present yet
> another problem.
Problem for who? The judge isn't likely to find in his favor if he
isn't present. If your husband doesn't bother to show up and dispute
your claims, why should the judge?
Phil Marti
> perfect, i actually thought of this idea myself a while back. i
> already know he didn't divorce her and there won't be any proof that
> he did. after all , he's still married to me (sort of) and already
> moved on to wife number three.
Forget wife #1 (I assume the "sort of" is a comment on the state of your
relationship, not its legality), he's a bigamist because of #3. Call the
cops.
You need a lawyer to pursue getting your marriage annulled.
--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD
angelsbreath
I've already contacted the cops, they really don't want to do anything
about it. They just don't want to deal with it. I'm sure it's
because they won't do anything but give him a mere slap on the wrist,
which to me is purely sick. It's honestly sad that our country allows
people to get away with doing things like this to people, but the
truth is, this sort of thing happens every day and more importantly
because our country does not have any sort of National Database in
place for Marriages and Divorces. County Clerks, nationwide, need a
proper system in place to be able to track marriages and divorces
before issuing someone a marriage license. Our country just simply
doesn't have any such system in place and because of this many county
clerks simply take a person's word when filing for a marriage
license. There is a petition to Congress for a National Database of
Marriages and Divorces out there, which is in need of 1000 signatures
before it can be presented to Congress. I signed it a year ago and
yet, as of today, it only has 455 signatures. I just don't understand
why more people just aren't interested in having a proper system in
place. If you would like to sign it, you can go here: <a
href="http://www.petitiononline.com/its2bad4/petition.html">Petition
to Congress</a>. I'm not just saying that more attention needs to be
brought to this matter because of myself, but because of the thousands
of people this sort of thing happens to. It is a hurtful and
deceitful act that could be prevented if we just simply had a better
system in place. As for the "sort of" reference in my comment above,
I say that because of not only the status of our relationship, but
also because of it's legality. Not only have I not seen or heard from
him in over a year and a half, we are not legally married because he
was not able to legally marry me due to the fact he is already married
to wife #1. Simply put, he was still married to wife #1 which made
our marriage void and also makes wife #3's marriage void. I call it
"void" because that is what it is called here in Texas. I am not able
to get my marriage annulled here in Texas, it is instead referred to
as a "void marriage", which to me is basically the same thing. Yes,
he is a bigamist, not only because of wife #3, but because of me, wife
#2, as well. I know that he never divorced wife number one because he
told me himself a year and a half ago. Now, it's just a matter of
getting it proved in a court of law. I have consulted several lawyers
on this issue. They have all told me that this is something that I
can handle myself and have actually suggested that I do so. I already
have the Petition to Declare a Marriage Void ready to file, now it's
just a matter of collecting evidence that will stand up in a court of
law. I am just having a hard time understanding what will be needed
as evidence because like someone else stated above no divorce=no paper
work, the only evidence I have is a copy of his marriage license with
wife #1 and the fact that, to date, no divorce records have been found.
kastnna
only benefit a relatively small number of people.
I do sympathize with you and I understand the frustration. In all
fairness though, you were probably not pushing for this legislation
before it affected you, either. If this happened to enough "important"
people, you might then see the legislation brought up.
As for the lawyers, I assumed you had one. My mistake. If you are
having difficulty with your case (and it appears you are), you NEED a
lawyer. If they are still refusing or avoiding representing you then I
suspect there is more to this story.
Good luck.
angelsbreath
The only reason every lawyer refuses to represent me in the case is
because it is nearly impossible to prove without a shadow of a doubt
that he did not divorce her. Without a national database of marriages
and divorces, it is next to impossible to actually prove that he
didn't go to another state to divorce her, or her him for that matter.