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Larry Israel
Jan 4, 2012, 12:09:15 PM1/4/12
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I mailed a check to the IRS on October 23 or 24. In the middle of
November I got a letter, dated November 4, saying that I still owed the
money. However, my bank cleared the check on November 3, so the IRS must
have gotten the check earlier. OK, so that could have been one group
processing the input and another putting out the notice.
When I got the notice I wrote them a letter, including a copy of the
cancelled check, showing that I had paid. The postmark on the letter was
November 17. Today, January 4, I got the letter back. The date on the
"undeliverable" sticker from the US Post Office was December 22.
The unusual thing was that I had used the return form, with the address
clearly showing through the window:
INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE
AUR CORRESPONDENCE 5-E08-113
PHILADELPHIA PA 19255-0521
This was followed by a bar code, also visible through the window. Below
the window I added USA, as I was mailing it from outside the country.
It must have gotten to the USA, as the return sticker was from the US
Post office. A reverse ZIP code lookup on the USPS site says that 19255
is for the IRS. So why did my letter get refused?Was the Post Office in
a dispute with the IRS, refusing to deliver the mail? Was the 0521
suffix deleted, and the IRS too stupid to accept mail to it? Or what?
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November I got a letter, dated November 4, saying that I still owed the
money. However, my bank cleared the check on November 3, so the IRS must
have gotten the check earlier. OK, so that could have been one group
processing the input and another putting out the notice.
When I got the notice I wrote them a letter, including a copy of the
cancelled check, showing that I had paid. The postmark on the letter was
November 17. Today, January 4, I got the letter back. The date on the
"undeliverable" sticker from the US Post Office was December 22.
The unusual thing was that I had used the return form, with the address
clearly showing through the window:
INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE
AUR CORRESPONDENCE 5-E08-113
PHILADELPHIA PA 19255-0521
This was followed by a bar code, also visible through the window. Below
the window I added USA, as I was mailing it from outside the country.
It must have gotten to the USA, as the return sticker was from the US
Post office. A reverse ZIP code lookup on the USPS site says that 19255
is for the IRS. So why did my letter get refused?Was the Post Office in
a dispute with the IRS, refusing to deliver the mail? Was the 0521
suffix deleted, and the IRS too stupid to accept mail to it? Or what?
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<< The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >>
<< nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >>
<< that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >>
<< >>
<< The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >>
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removep...@yahoo.com
Jan 4, 2012, 12:30:13 PM1/4/12
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On Jan 4, 9:09 am, VSLA...@weizmann.ac.il (Larry Israel) wrote:
> I mailed a check to the IRS on October 23 or 24. In the middle of
> November I got a letter, dated November 4, saying that I still owed the
> money. However, my bank cleared the check on November 3, so the IRS must
> have gotten the check earlier. OK, so that could have been one group
> processing the input and another putting out the notice.
>
> When I got the notice I wrote them a letter, including a copy of the
> cancelled check, showing that I had paid. The postmark on the letter was
> November 17. Today, January 4, I got the letter back. The date on the
> "undeliverable" sticker from the US Post Office was December 22.
>
> The unusual thing was that I had used the return form, with the address
> clearly showing through the window:
>
> INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE
> AUR CORRESPONDENCE 5-E08-113
> PHILADELPHIA PA 19255-0521
>
> This was followed by a bar code, also visible through the window. Below
> the window I added USA, as I was mailing it from outside the country.
>
> It must have gotten to the USA, as the return sticker was from the US
> Post office. A reverse ZIP code lookup on the USPS site says that 19255
> is for the IRS. So why did my letter get refused?Was the Post Office in
> a dispute with the IRS, refusing to deliver the mail? Was the 0521
> suffix deleted, and the IRS too stupid to accept mail to it? Or what?
I'm confused. If your check to them was returned back to you, how
> I mailed a check to the IRS on October 23 or 24. In the middle of
> November I got a letter, dated November 4, saying that I still owed the
> money. However, my bank cleared the check on November 3, so the IRS must
> have gotten the check earlier. OK, so that could have been one group
> processing the input and another putting out the notice.
>
> When I got the notice I wrote them a letter, including a copy of the
> cancelled check, showing that I had paid. The postmark on the letter was
> November 17. Today, January 4, I got the letter back. The date on the
> "undeliverable" sticker from the US Post Office was December 22.
>
> The unusual thing was that I had used the return form, with the address
> clearly showing through the window:
>
> INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE
> AUR CORRESPONDENCE 5-E08-113
> PHILADELPHIA PA 19255-0521
>
> This was followed by a bar code, also visible through the window. Below
> the window I added USA, as I was mailing it from outside the country.
>
> It must have gotten to the USA, as the return sticker was from the US
> Post office. A reverse ZIP code lookup on the USPS site says that 19255
> is for the IRS. So why did my letter get refused?Was the Post Office in
> a dispute with the IRS, refusing to deliver the mail? Was the 0521
> suffix deleted, and the IRS too stupid to accept mail to it? Or what?
could it have been deposited. Anyway, it might be best to talk with
them and get any penalties and possibly interest taken off. In the
future pay by eftps
https://www.eftps.com/eftps/
Seth
Jan 4, 2012, 1:57:57 PM1/4/12
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In article <7f08c06b-fe4b-4cfc...@t13g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
The letter saying so, and including a _copy_ of the cleared check, was
returned.
Seth
removep...@yahoo.com <removep...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 4, 9:09 am, VSLA...@weizmann.ac.il (Larry Israel) wrote:
>
>> I mailed a check to the IRS on October 23 or 24. In the middle of
>> November I got a letter, dated November 4, saying that I still owed the
>> money. However, my bank cleared the check on November 3, so the IRS must
>> have gotten the check earlier. OK, so that could have been one group
>> processing the input and another putting out the notice.
>>
>> When I got the notice I wrote them a letter, including a copy of the
>> cancelled check, showing that I had paid. The postmark on the letter was
>> November 17. Today, January 4, I got the letter back. The date on the
>> "undeliverable" sticker from the US Post Office was December 22.
>On Jan 4, 9:09 am, VSLA...@weizmann.ac.il (Larry Israel) wrote:
>
>> I mailed a check to the IRS on October 23 or 24. In the middle of
>> November I got a letter, dated November 4, saying that I still owed the
>> money. However, my bank cleared the check on November 3, so the IRS must
>> have gotten the check earlier. OK, so that could have been one group
>> processing the input and another putting out the notice.
>>
>> When I got the notice I wrote them a letter, including a copy of the
>> cancelled check, showing that I had paid. The postmark on the letter was
>> November 17. Today, January 4, I got the letter back. The date on the
>> "undeliverable" sticker from the US Post Office was December 22.
>I'm confused. If your check to them was returned back to you, how
>could it have been deposited.
The check was received and deposited.
>could it have been deposited.
The letter saying so, and including a _copy_ of the cleared check, was
returned.
Seth
Katie in San Diego
Jan 6, 2012, 2:39:35 PM1/6/12
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On Jan 4, 9:09 am, VSLA...@weizmann.ac.il (Larry Israel) wrote:
> I mailed a check to the IRS on October 23 or 24. In the middle of
> November I got a letter, dated November 4, saying that I still owed the
> money. However, my bank cleared the check on November 3, so the IRS must
> have gotten the check earlier. OK, so that could have been one group
> processing the input and another putting out the notice.
>
> When I got the notice I wrote them a letter, including a copy of the
> cancelled check, showing that I had paid. The postmark on the letter was
> November 17. Today, January 4, I got the letter back. The date on the
> "undeliverable" sticker from the US Post Office was December 22.
>
> The unusual thing was that I had used the return form, with the address
> clearly showing through the window:
>
> INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE
> AUR CORRESPONDENCE 5-E08-113
> PHILADELPHIA PA 19255-0521
>
> This was followed by a bar code, also visible through the window. Below
> the window I added USA, as I was mailing it from outside the country.
>
> It must have gotten to the USA, as the return sticker was from the US
> Post office. A reverse ZIP code lookup on the USPS site says that 19255
> is for the IRS. So why did my letter get refused?Was the Post Office in
> a dispute with the IRS, refusing to deliver the mail? Was the 0521
> suffix deleted, and the IRS too stupid to accept mail to it? Or what?
>
I have no idea why your letter was returned undeliverable, but I would
> November I got a letter, dated November 4, saying that I still owed the
> money. However, my bank cleared the check on November 3, so the IRS must
> have gotten the check earlier. OK, so that could have been one group
> processing the input and another putting out the notice.
>
> When I got the notice I wrote them a letter, including a copy of the
> cancelled check, showing that I had paid. The postmark on the letter was
> November 17. Today, January 4, I got the letter back. The date on the
> "undeliverable" sticker from the US Post Office was December 22.
>
> The unusual thing was that I had used the return form, with the address
> clearly showing through the window:
>
> INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE
> AUR CORRESPONDENCE 5-E08-113
> PHILADELPHIA PA 19255-0521
>
> This was followed by a bar code, also visible through the window. Below
> the window I added USA, as I was mailing it from outside the country.
>
> It must have gotten to the USA, as the return sticker was from the US
> Post office. A reverse ZIP code lookup on the USPS site says that 19255
> is for the IRS. So why did my letter get refused?Was the Post Office in
> a dispute with the IRS, refusing to deliver the mail? Was the 0521
> suffix deleted, and the IRS too stupid to accept mail to it? Or what?
>
suggest trying one more time. If there is a fax number on the IRS's
November 4 letter, I would fax the explanation (including the fact
that your Nov. 17 letter was returned, with a copy of the envelope
showing "undeliverable") and the cancelled check copy to that number.
If not, I'd try mailing it again. If you can get USPS certified mail,
return receipt requested service from your location, I'd use that.
If that doesn't work, you could contact the IRS Tax Advocate Service
for help. http://www.irs.gov/advocate/article/0,,id=212313,00.html.
Katie in San Diego
Larry Israel
Jan 7, 2012, 2:04:33 PM1/7/12
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The letter I sent was a question/complaint about the check not being credited
to my account. Since the time I sent the letter I found out that it had been.
My interest in the letter being returned was theoretical, and also a fear
that the next time a time-dependent letter will not get through.
to my account. Since the time I sent the letter I found out that it had been.
My interest in the letter being returned was theoretical, and also a fear
that the next time a time-dependent letter will not get through.
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