taxes

[Cliff Nielsen]

i have filed 2 federal tax returns one from turbo tax another from h@r block. my h@r block was rejected because my soical security number is the same as someones elses they said what do i do?

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[Adam H. Kerman]

Cliff Nielsen <porkst...@att.net> wrote:

>i have filed 2 federal tax returns one from turbo tax another from h@r
>block. my h@r block was rejected because my soical security number is
>the same as someones elses they said what do i do?

Verify that the Social Security Number is correct. Find your Social
Security card and make sure that the name you used on the tax return
matches the name on the card. Print out the tax return. Attach
a note that the filing was rejected for the stated reason. Photocopy
your driver's license or other photo ID and your Social Security card.
Go to the post office retail window, not the retail kiosk. Pay the
certified mail fee; you don't need to pay the additional fee for
return receipt. Ask the window clerk to use the rubber date stamp on the
certified mail receipt and make sure you have a clear impression.
Save this with your records.

Perhaps someone will read the letter and flag the other tax return for
use of the wrong SSN. I hope it's not fraud.

Obtaining and retaining that certified mail receipt is key to protecting
your own interest here. This is why God invented certified mail.

I would assume that the electronic filing system verifies that the name
and SSH matches as a minimal anti-fraud check, but I really have no
idea. Where I still have the option to file on paper, that's what I do.

[Bob Sandler]

>i have filed 2 federal tax returns one from turbo tax
>another from h@r block. my h@r block was rejected
>because my soical security number is the same as
>someones elses they said what do i do?

Who did you file the two tax returns for? Did you file two
tax returns for yourself, both returns with your name and
Social Security number? If so, that's why the second one was
rejected. You can only file one tax return for each year.
The reject is not saying that your Social Security number is
the same as someone else's. It's saying that a tax return
has already been filed with your Social Security number.

If that's what happened, you don't do anything right now.
The first tax return is filed, and that's your tax return.
If there's an error in it, or something omitted, you have to
wait until the IRS processes your tax return and you get the
refund. Then you can file an amended return, Form 1040-X to
make the correction.

Bob Sandler

[Stuart O. Bronstein]

Bob Sandler <bob_u...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:a7ooqil9mpeta5ifv...@4ax.com:

>>i have filed 2 federal tax returns one from turbo tax
>>another from h@r block. my h@r block was rejected
>>because my soical security number is the same as
>>someones elses they said what do i do?
>
> Who did you file the two tax returns for? Did you file two
> tax returns for yourself, both returns with your name and
> Social Security number? If so, that's why the second one was
> rejected. You can only file one tax return for each year.
> The reject is not saying that your Social Security number is
> the same as someone else's. It's saying that a tax return
> has already been filed with your Social Security number.
>
> If that's what happened, you don't do anything right now.
> The first tax return is filed, and that's your tax return.
> If there's an error in it, or something omitted, you have to
> wait until the IRS processes your tax return and you get the
> refund. Then you can file an amended return, Form 1040-X to
> make the correction.

If a corrected return is being filed before the due date of the original
return, it's a superseding return, and is filed on Form 1040-SR. There
is no indication in the instructions for the form that it can't be filed
until the origial return is processed. In fact it has to be filed by the
due date for the original return. Otherwise, as you say, the taxpayer
files an amended return instead.


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[Bob Sandler]

>>>i have filed 2 federal tax returns one from turbo tax
>>>another from h@r block. my h@r block was rejected
>>>because my soical security number is the same as
>>>someones elses they said what do i do?
>>
>> Who did you file the two tax returns for? Did you file two
>> tax returns for yourself, both returns with your name and
>> Social Security number? If so, that's why the second one was
>> rejected. You can only file one tax return for each year.
>> The reject is not saying that your Social Security number is
>> the same as someone else's. It's saying that a tax return
>> has already been filed with your Social Security number.
>>
>> If that's what happened, you don't do anything right now.
>> The first tax return is filed, and that's your tax return.
>> If there's an error in it, or something omitted, you have to
>> wait until the IRS processes your tax return and you get the
>> refund. Then you can file an amended return, Form 1040-X to
>> make the correction.
>
>If a corrected return is being filed before the due date of the original
>return, it's a superseding return, and is filed on Form 1040-SR. There
>is no indication in the instructions for the form that it can't be filed
>until the origial return is processed. In fact it has to be filed by the
>due date for the original return. Otherwise, as you say, the taxpayer
>files an amended return instead.

As a practical matter, a superseding return would have to be
paper filed. If you try to e-file it, it will be rejected
because a return has already been filed with the same SSN.
Cliff Nielsen, who asked the question, is apparently
e-filing.

Bob Sandler

[ira smilovitz]

A superseding return is NOT filed on Form 1040-SR. That is the form for senior returns. (The print is larger.) Superseding returns are filed using Form 1040-X as the cover and including a full copy of the corrected 1040 behind the 1040-X. The top of the first page of Form 1040 should be marked "SUPERSEDING RETURN."

Ira Smilovitz, EA
Leonia, NJ

[ira smilovitz]

Superseding returns do not need to be paper filed. They can be efiled the same as any other amended return. The tax prep software adds an electronic indicator that the return is a superseding one. If your software doesn't provide this capability, I would look for new software.

Ira Smilovitz, EA
Leonia, NJ

[Stuart O. Bronstein]

ira smilovitz <ira.sm...@gmail.com> wrote

> A superseding return is NOT filed on Form 1040-SR. That is the form
> for senior returns. (The print is larger.) Superseding returns are
> filed using Form 1040-X as the cover and including a full copy of the
> corrected 1040 behind the 1040-X. The top of the first page of Form
> 1040 should be marked "SUPERSEDING RETURN."

Thanks. I misread the information.

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