Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

HUD-1 as 1099-S? How to "map" HUD-1 numbers to 1099-S?

667 views
Skip to first unread message

Lagrangian Mechanic

unread,
Apr 8, 2013, 7:02:38 PM4/8/13
to
This is sort of a follow-up to my earlier post
about when a RE transaction should be reported.

I talked to the closing agent about the missing
1099-S and they sent me another copy of the HUD-1.
When I called to complain again about the lack of
a 1099-S, they pointed out the tiny, fine print at
the bottom of the HUD-1 that said it was also a
substitute 1099-S (they also said they were
reporting it as a 2012 sale).

I should note that this was a joint sale by my
brother and I (we co-inherited the land) to a
single seller. At the bottom of the HUD-1 are
each of our signatures with each of our SSNs
handwritten (by us) under our names.

I then looked up a (blank) real 1099-S on the
IRS website and have some questions about how
to "map" the HUD-1 to what should have been
reported on a real 1099-S.

I see that the only box on the real 1099-S relating
to sales proceeds is Box 1 "Gross Proceeds".

The HUD-1 has "gross amount due to seller" and
then subtracts off commissions and real estate
tax adjustments. Is the "gross amount due to
seller" what would have gone on a real 1099-S
and what I report as proceeds on Form 8949?
(And then add commissions to the basis?)

Another question is who is this going to be
reported for? The real 1099-S only takes
a single SSN.

Should I expect that the closing agent will send
two 1099-S's to the IRS (one under each SSN)
each showing half the proceeds? Is that common
practice?

Should I be prepared for them to arbitrarily
pick one person and report all the proceeds
under that person's SSN? And if they do that,
what the person who gets the whole proceeds
reported against them do? File a nominee 1099-S
to get the half the proceeds over to the other?
Just report their share and wait for the CP-2000
to arrive?

My return is on extension (so I have some time) --
is it possible to contact the IRS and find out
from them what the closing agent reported under
my SSN?

(BTW, I have tried asking the agent these questions
and all I can get out of them is "we reported
what's on that form to the IRS" with no specifics
at all. Grrr!)

Thanks!

--
Lagrangian

--
<< ------------------------------------------------------- >>
<< The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, >>
<< nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties >>
<< that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. >>
<< >>
<< The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts >>
<< to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy >>
<< are at www.asktax.org. >>
<< Copyright (2011) - All rights reserved. >>
<< ------------------------------------------------------- >>

Gary Goodman

unread,
Jul 3, 2013, 4:41:02 PM7/3/13
to
The 1099-S usually has the full sales price, which would be in boxes 101 and 401. The real question in your case is did the agent report 100% under the SSN of either you or your brother or did the agent split it 50/50.

I would first DEMAND a copy of the 1099-S as submitted. If the agent stalls or refuses, the last resort would be for both of you to report 50% of the sales price. If the IRS sends a notice next year to one or both of you, simply send the information you have and explain what happened.

I hope this helps.
Gary
0 new messages