Does anyone here OWN a MIRT (Traffic light changer strobe)?
George W.
Greetings everyone,
I'm interested in buying a Mobile Infrared Transmitter Device that goes for
$300 but the problem is, I want to hear from someone, first, that actually
OWNS and USES one to see if they're all that they are cracked up to be.
Thanks,
GW
On-Liner
"George W." wrote
I thought that was a restricted sale item for emergency vehicles only.
I am wrong?
Perry Noid
Mike Boersma
lights to be activatable by the MIRT system. Many communities do not have
traffic lights that are MIRT activated.
Be advised that your state or locality may have criminalized MIRT possession
or use by non-emergency personnel. I live in Michigan where currently it is
legal to possess and possibly use MIRT. However, the legislature is rapidly
acting to criminalize possession by making it a felony for non-emergency
personnel to use MIRT.
Unless the advantage of changing stoplights to favor you (with the resulting
possibility that you may cause an accident) is so much greater than the
downside of potential criminal and civil liability, then you should not
consider MIRT. Remember that the same companies that sell MIRT sell to law
enforcement as well.....
Mike Boersma
Rich Johnson
"George W." <geow...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Traffic lights is my business. The system that we use has a particular
digital signal included in the strobe. Without that key, it won't work. If
for some reason you do get a valid digital code, our signal system will
register the preempt. We can track you with that and catch you on camera.
When we do, figure jail time in the cost of using it.
George W.
> Traffic lights is my business. The system that we use has a particular
> digital signal included in the strobe. Without that key, it won't work.
If
> for some reason you do get a valid digital code, our signal system will
> register the preempt.
I can't imagine www.themirt.com being in business very long selling the
warez , sans the code.
We..
"WE, meaning whom?" The traffic police?
>can track you with that and catch you on camera.
Camera? Camera where? I'm not aware of any cameras where I come from.
> When we do, figure jail time in the cost of using it.
I understand there's a loophole in the sales of this device right now, but
not for long. Correct? If that is true I assume any riff-raff can make
this the biggest TOY since hand-held Motorola 8000s but don't get use to
it!!!
NOw this is what another NG reports back:
He adds:
Some work but not for much longer. As you read this the company that makes
the light changer is producing a receiver and transmitter to stop all the
knock offs from changing the lights. It changer will look for a coded hand
shake signal before it will work. Keep your $300.00
>
>
The Fossil
Infrared is not regulated by the FCC, so they would have a major
problem other than "malicious mischef" doing anything to you.
The electronics and infrared LED's are made in China.
How "restricted" do you think THAT is ?!
George W.
> Infrared is not regulated by the FCC, so they would have a major
> problem other than "malicious mischef" doing anything to you.
>
> The electronics and infrared LED's are made in China.
>
> How "restricted" do you think THAT is ?!
>
>
knowledge. As for me, I still haven't gotten a straight answer on how good
it really works. Perhaps I need to try a group with firefighters. Anyone
here know of one?
Thanks
Bob Brock
Probably more restricted than mobile use of a radio scanner which is
illegal in several states. Owning a scanner that is capable of
listenting to cellphones is perfectly legal, but it's illegal to
listen to cell phones.
Just because it's legal to make it and buy it doesn't mean that it's
legal to use it.
Rich Johnson
> Hello Rich,
>
>
> > Traffic lights is my business. The system that we use has a particular
> > digital signal included in the strobe. Without that key, it won't work.
> If
> > for some reason you do get a valid digital code, our signal system will
> > register the preempt.
>
> I can't imagine www.themirt.com being in business very long selling the
> warez , sans the code.
>
trouble. Also the encoding process is patented by 3M. They want to screw
with 3M, they better have deeeeeep pockets.
>
> We..
>
> "WE, meaning whom?" The traffic police?
>
We meaning the traffic signal Engineers.
>
> >can track you with that and catch you on camera.
>
> Camera? Camera where? I'm not aware of any cameras where I come from.
>
We do here, and I put them in.
> > When we do, figure jail time in the cost of using it.
>
> I understand there's a loophole in the sales of this device right now, but
> not for long. Correct? If that is true I assume any riff-raff can make
> this the biggest TOY since hand-held Motorola 8000s but don't get use to
> it!!!
>
> NOw this is what another NG reports back:
>
> >
>
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?query=Infrared+Transmitter&ht=1&sosortproperty=1&from=R10&BasicSearch=
>
>
> He adds:
>
> Some work but not for much longer. As you read this the company that
makes
> the light changer is producing a receiver and transmitter to stop all the
> knock offs from changing the lights. It changer will look for a coded
hand
> shake signal before it will work. Keep your $300.00
>
As I said, here we have the encoded variety.
Rich
Rich Johnson
"Gordon Gekko IDCC on the Nasdaq" <jcbo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> First of all this device is not more likely to cause accidents than
> any act of normal driving, all it does is change the light and before
> doing so the green light becomes yellow then red
>
> people that happens all the time, people slow or go thru yellow then
> stop at red, this does not just change from green to red with no
> yellow
>
> secondly if u read the article you will see that most lights are not
> encoded for reasons stated in the article and they are not likely to
> change for a few of these being sold, most people will not buy these
> and the few that do will not get noticed
>
> cameras are rare and since the operation is not illegal right now, who
> is going to jail
Really?? Not likely to cause accidents?? The device cuts short the amount
of green time. This means that the one that just got a green has the light
change to yellow. (Yellows are typically 3 seconds, minimum, but are
adjusted by the approach speed.) So, a driver coming into an intersection
at a reasonable speed, sees the green, continues on at speed, then the light
suddenly jumps to yellow. They take a couple of seconds to register, and
slam on the brakes. The guy following then does a rear end job on their
trunk. No accidents, BS.
Rich Johnson
"Gordon Gekko IDCC on the Nasdaq" <jcbo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c535f995.03110...@posting.google.com...
amount
> > of green time. This means that the one that just got a green has the
light
> > change to yellow. (Yellows are typically 3 seconds, minimum, but are
> > adjusted by the approach speed.) So, a driver coming into an
intersection
> > at a reasonable speed, sees the green, continues on at speed, then the
light
> > suddenly jumps to yellow. They take a couple of seconds to register,
and
> > slam on the brakes. The guy following then does a rear end job on their
> > trunk. No accidents, BS.
>
>
> different speeds approach lights all the time and they turn yellow at
> different points in traffic, the light turns yellow on us 500 feet
> away, 20, 1, just as we are going under it etc, this changes nothing,
> we have to react to a yellow light at any point of the approach, if we
> get a green and it suddenly goes yellow, how much speed could we have
> built up, we either stop at the yellow or go thru it, the same
> procedure if the green was going for 5 minutes
>
> many times when u approach a light u have no idea how long it has been
> green, so u must be prepared for a yellow then a red at all times
>
> are u telling me u have never seen quick lights, many times i have
> been sitting lets say 6 cars behind, the light turns green and just
> before I or the car in front of me gets there it goes yellow, what do
> I do, I stop just like I would at any other yellow, sure it is
> frustrating, I curse the fact that the light was a short one, but it
> does not increase my chance of an accident, and again if you are
> sitting at a light you don't have time to get speed up to 50
>
> and if you are going 50 approaching a light, u are always aware of the
> fact it may go yellow, and then u make your decision, can i make the
> yellow or should i stop
>
> by the way these changers don't cut down on the yellow time or the
> delay to green, i know that for a fact
>
> if you think hard enough you will realize what you are saying is wrong
No, in fact Traffic Engineers know for a fact that installing any traffic
light, anywhere will increase the amount of rear end collisions. An
improperly timed one will increase that exponentially. That is what a
preempt does, cuts short the opposing green to give a green to the preempt.
(What is more it is possible that your user has parked his car and forgot to
turn off the strobe, locking the intersection up.)
When approaching at normal speed, a driver would see the red change to
green. They then would remove their foot from the brake pedal to the
accelerator pedal. They would not expect the light to change to yellow
within a second or two at a normal approach speed. They could be in the
"dilemma" zone that we all have experienced and slam on their brakes. That
is when the accident takes place. The person behind them has also seen the
light turn green, and does not expect it to change within a second or two.
Keep in mind the typical reaction delay for a person is 2 seconds. The
asshole with the preempt unit has directly caused the accident. That is why
if we find them, we put them away. The person that sells these is
temporarily making hay while the law catches up to him. He is doing so at
the cost of lives and property. They are despicable, and anyone that
purchases one and uses it is a criminal. (Unless they are a duly authorized
Emergency vehicle.) Even in my City, the Police are not authorized to have
these. Just the Fire Department.
cyber
"Rich Johnson" <ri...@remove.this.tairedd.com> wrote:
> anywhere will increase the amount of rear end collisions.
If you want to do something to reduce rear-enders. Add a third brake
light , if you don't have one. And do a light check to see if everything
is working. Or the man may stop you. Protect and serve.
"If I can not dance, I want no part in your revolution." Emma Goldman
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> You can buy one of these lights but get caught using it and you WILL go to jail and become a felon
>
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Jail time... um wrrong. Its like a tint ticket.
Some people love over exaggerating.
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> Greetings everyone,
>
> I'm interested in buying a Mobile Infrared Transmitter Device that goes for
> $300 but the problem is, I want to hear from someone, first, that actually
> OWNS and USES one to see if they're all that they are cracked up to be.
>
> Thanks,
>
> GW
wils...@gmail.com
Ralph Snart
> "George W." <geow...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > Greetings everyone,
> >
> > I'm interested in buying a Mobile Infrared Transmitter Device that goes
> for
> > $300 but the problem is, I want to hear from someone, first, that
> actually
> > OWNS and USES one to see if they're all that they are cracked up to be.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > GW
> >
> digital signal included in the strobe. Without that key, it won't work. If
> for some reason you do get a valid digital code, our signal system will
It's been over 50 years since the local pigs solved a missing person case and they spend the bulk of their time running drugs. You really think small town keystone cops are going to catch you.
Get over it dude. Move out of whatever prison you live in. Because if you think that shite is normal you have been there to damn long. It isn't.