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Redneck hatin' Michelle Obama booed at NASCAR race. Was that to be expected?
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Leroy N. Soetoro
Nov 22, 2011, 1:08:28 AM11/22/11
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booed-at-NASCAR-race.-Was-that-to-be-expected
Michelle Obama booed at NASCAR? That can't be too surprising, right? Maybe
not, considering only 30 percent of NASCAR fans identify as Republicans.
Michelle Obama and Jill Biden got booed at a NASCAR race in Florida on
Sunday, in case you haven’t heard. Now, questions of civility and first
ladies aside, our question is this: What did they expect? Isn’t auto
racing, you know, a Republican-leaning activity, especially in the South?
Why were they there?
Because in political terms NASCAR is a target-rich environment, that’s
why. And overall NASCAR fans are not as GOP-oriented as you might think.
First off, let’s back up and acknowledge that Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Biden
were at Homestead-Miami Speedway in the name of a charity, Joining Forces,
which promotes the hiring of veterans. Perhaps they hoped the association
with the military would bring them a warm reception. They weren’t there
passing out “Reelect Barack” stickers, after all.
But to some Republicans, the first lady is a symbol of an administration
overreaching. They bristle at her emphasis on eating right and exercising
as just another example of government sticking its nose into activities it
has no business getting involved in.
Thus Rush Limbaugh took the unprecedented step of praising the reception
given the first and second ladies.
“NASCAR people ... know that in their hearts, the Obamas don’t like them.
We’ve taken notice of this,” said the radio entertainer on his show.
Well, we can’t speak to the composition of that particular Florida crowd.
But perhaps Mr. Limbaugh would be surprised to learn that NASCAR fans as a
whole aren’t Republican, after all.
Yes, 30 percent of NASCAR adherents identify themselves as leaning to the
GOP, according to a lengthy survey of the subject released this summer.
But 29 percent say they’re Democrats.
This finding is consistent with some previous surveys of which other
conservative commentators are aware. In 2008, the conservative writer and
activist S.E. Cupp in an article on NASCAR’s own website noted that the
sport’s “fans vote 35 percent Republican and 28 percent Democratic – a
separation of only 7 percentage points, hardly a convincing argument for
NASCAR’s political leanings."
Other attributes of NASCAR audiences are heavily studied because, well,
they’re an attractive merchandising opportunity. Surprise, surprise –
they’re not redneck beer-swillers who thrill to “Dukes of Hazzard” reruns.
Or at least, not that many of them are. NASCAR’s own data show its fans to
be 60 percent male and 40 percent female. Twenty percent are minorities.
Their income levels and age are pretty similar to the income levels and
age of the US population as a whole.
In fact, NASCAR’s fan base is a fairly good representation of the nation
as a whole, in terms of demographic characteristics.
Yes, Sunday’s race was in the South. But if you look at the overall
picture, Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Biden might have expected a better reception.
At the least, contrary to Limbaugh’s assertion, they got booed by
individuals who didn’t like them – not an entire fandom.
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booed-at-NASCAR-race.-Was-that-to-be-expected
Michelle Obama booed at NASCAR? That can't be too surprising, right? Maybe
not, considering only 30 percent of NASCAR fans identify as Republicans.
Michelle Obama and Jill Biden got booed at a NASCAR race in Florida on
Sunday, in case you haven’t heard. Now, questions of civility and first
ladies aside, our question is this: What did they expect? Isn’t auto
racing, you know, a Republican-leaning activity, especially in the South?
Why were they there?
Because in political terms NASCAR is a target-rich environment, that’s
why. And overall NASCAR fans are not as GOP-oriented as you might think.
First off, let’s back up and acknowledge that Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Biden
were at Homestead-Miami Speedway in the name of a charity, Joining Forces,
which promotes the hiring of veterans. Perhaps they hoped the association
with the military would bring them a warm reception. They weren’t there
passing out “Reelect Barack” stickers, after all.
But to some Republicans, the first lady is a symbol of an administration
overreaching. They bristle at her emphasis on eating right and exercising
as just another example of government sticking its nose into activities it
has no business getting involved in.
Thus Rush Limbaugh took the unprecedented step of praising the reception
given the first and second ladies.
“NASCAR people ... know that in their hearts, the Obamas don’t like them.
We’ve taken notice of this,” said the radio entertainer on his show.
Well, we can’t speak to the composition of that particular Florida crowd.
But perhaps Mr. Limbaugh would be surprised to learn that NASCAR fans as a
whole aren’t Republican, after all.
Yes, 30 percent of NASCAR adherents identify themselves as leaning to the
GOP, according to a lengthy survey of the subject released this summer.
But 29 percent say they’re Democrats.
This finding is consistent with some previous surveys of which other
conservative commentators are aware. In 2008, the conservative writer and
activist S.E. Cupp in an article on NASCAR’s own website noted that the
sport’s “fans vote 35 percent Republican and 28 percent Democratic – a
separation of only 7 percentage points, hardly a convincing argument for
NASCAR’s political leanings."
Other attributes of NASCAR audiences are heavily studied because, well,
they’re an attractive merchandising opportunity. Surprise, surprise –
they’re not redneck beer-swillers who thrill to “Dukes of Hazzard” reruns.
Or at least, not that many of them are. NASCAR’s own data show its fans to
be 60 percent male and 40 percent female. Twenty percent are minorities.
Their income levels and age are pretty similar to the income levels and
age of the US population as a whole.
In fact, NASCAR’s fan base is a fairly good representation of the nation
as a whole, in terms of demographic characteristics.
Yes, Sunday’s race was in the South. But if you look at the overall
picture, Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Biden might have expected a better reception.
At the least, contrary to Limbaugh’s assertion, they got booed by
individuals who didn’t like them – not an entire fandom.
--
Obama's black racist USAG appointee.
Eric Holder, racist black United States Attorney General drops voter
intimidation charges against the Black Panthers, "You are about to be
ruled by the black man, cracker!"
Eric Holder, prejudiced black United States Attorney General settles the
hate crime debate, "Whites Not Protected by Hate Crime Laws."
Nancy Pelosi, Democrat criminal, accessory before and after the fact, to
former House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles B. Rangel of New
York's million dollar tax evasion.
Barack Obama and Eric Holder, committed treason by knowingly and
deliberately arming enemies of the United States of America through
Operation Fast and Furious. Complicit in the murder of Federal employees
during the execution of their duties.
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Nancy2
Nov 22, 2011, 11:08:16 AM11/22/11
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> But to some Republicans, the first lady is a symbol of an administration
> overreaching. They bristle at her emphasis on eating right and exercising
> as just another example of government sticking its nose into activities it
> has no business getting involved in.
Sure, just like the Republicans bristle at the idea that government
> overreaching. They bristle at her emphasis on eating right and exercising
> as just another example of government sticking its nose into activities it
> has no business getting involved in.
belongs in the citizens' bedrooms and at their doctors' offices.
Riiiight.
N.
Mike Marlow
Nov 22, 2011, 11:27:32 AM11/22/11
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any persuasion to ply their trade in every venue that they think they can
leverage. Why does a race have to contain a political component - from
either side?
BTW - your reply above makes no sense at all. The obvious suggestion is
that personal political preferences, and perspectives are best left to other
forums. Your comment above demonstrates why they don't work across all
forums.
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-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Gunner Asch
Nov 22, 2011, 12:38:54 PM11/22/11
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:08:16 -0800 (PST), Nancy2 <ellor...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Damned straight we dont like that.
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
wrote:
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
StephenHawking
Nov 22, 2011, 1:51:45 PM11/22/11
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Nancy2
Nov 22, 2011, 2:14:14 PM11/22/11
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On Nov 22, 10:27 am, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@windstream.net>
wrote:
> mmarlowREM...@windstream.net
It does make sense. The quote was: "But to some Republicans, the
another example" such as legislating marriage and abortion. Get it?
Yes, I agree, politics doesn't belong here. On the other hand, it was
other posters in this thread who said Mrs. Obama's appearance was
strictly political. You can't have it both ways.
N.
wrote:
It does make sense. The quote was: "But to some Republicans, the
first lady is a symbol of an administration
overreaching. They bristle at her emphasis on eating right and
exercising
as just another example of government sticking its nose into
activities it
has no business getting involved in."
The Republicans bristle at "just another example of government
overreaching. They bristle at her emphasis on eating right and
exercising
as just another example of government sticking its nose into
activities it
has no business getting involved in."
sticking its nose into activities it has no business getting involved
in." But, hypocritically, the Republicans don't bristle at "just
another example" such as legislating marriage and abortion. Get it?
Yes, I agree, politics doesn't belong here. On the other hand, it was
other posters in this thread who said Mrs. Obama's appearance was
strictly political. You can't have it both ways.
N.
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 22, 2011, 4:00:51 PM11/22/11
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Too_Many_Tools
Nov 22, 2011, 4:04:01 PM11/22/11
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Why were they not whining when Bush appeared?
TMT
Mike Marlow
Nov 22, 2011, 6:48:08 PM11/22/11
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not just your comments.
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-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Mike Marlow
Nov 22, 2011, 6:49:47 PM11/22/11
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Too_Many_Tools
Nov 23, 2011, 12:32:05 AM11/23/11
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On Nov 22, 5:49 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@windstream.net>
wrote:
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The First Lady and the Vice First Lady were there to promote a
military charity...with a military family.
The NASCAR crowd could have pissed on the Flag and come off better
than they did.
Rednecks...never expect anything of class from them.
TMT
wrote:
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You apparently need to know more about the situation.
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The First Lady and the Vice First Lady were there to promote a
military charity...with a military family.
The NASCAR crowd could have pissed on the Flag and come off better
than they did.
Rednecks...never expect anything of class from them.
TMT
Tim Crowley
Nov 23, 2011, 12:39:04 AM11/23/11
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you stink more of fear every single day.
hint: 4 more years and not a damn thing your sick racist hate can do
about it.
groups trimmed; spamming still sucks shit.
hint: 4 more years and not a damn thing your sick racist hate can do
about it.
groups trimmed; spamming still sucks shit.
IGot2P
Nov 23, 2011, 1:02:01 AM11/23/11
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Don
George Plimpton
Nov 23, 2011, 2:17:04 AM11/23/11
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On 11/22/2011 9:39 PM, Tim Crowley wrote:
> you stink more of [hospital billing clerk bullshit snipped]
Blow it out your gaping HIV-oozing ass, Crawley, you fucking queer.
> you stink more of [hospital billing clerk bullshit snipped]
Blow it out your gaping HIV-oozing ass, Crawley, you fucking queer.
Nancy2
Nov 23, 2011, 2:19:47 PM11/23/11
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That was the point I originally tried to make, although you state it
more succinctly.
N.
Vandar
Nov 23, 2011, 2:46:43 PM11/23/11
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She was there purely for PR.
If you can't see through that, that's your problem.
George Plimpton
Nov 23, 2011, 3:30:13 PM11/23/11
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On 11/21/2011 10:08 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
> [...]
But a lot of tone-deaf leftist political types *think* that's what
NASCAR fans are. It's a safe bet that all the idiot leftists in Usenet
think that.
> [...]
>
> Other attributes of NASCAR audiences are heavily studied because, well,
> they’re an attractive merchandising opportunity. Surprise, surprise –
> they’re not redneck beer-swillers who thrill to “Dukes of Hazzard” reruns.
> [...]
> Other attributes of NASCAR audiences are heavily studied because, well,
> they’re an attractive merchandising opportunity. Surprise, surprise –
> they’re not redneck beer-swillers who thrill to “Dukes of Hazzard” reruns.
But a lot of tone-deaf leftist political types *think* that's what
NASCAR fans are. It's a safe bet that all the idiot leftists in Usenet
think that.
Nancy2
Nov 23, 2011, 4:11:54 PM11/23/11
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N.
Nancy2
Nov 23, 2011, 4:11:28 PM11/23/11
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was there, not some cynical assumption that can't be proven one way or
the other.
N.
Vandar
Nov 23, 2011, 4:47:59 PM11/23/11
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charity while there and she can promote that charity without telling a
bunch of race car drivers to flip a switch.
Ed Huntress
Nov 23, 2011, 4:54:38 PM11/23/11
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Vandar
Nov 23, 2011, 5:34:15 PM11/23/11
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Mike Marlow
Nov 23, 2011, 9:51:05 PM11/23/11
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Vandar wrote:
>
> She was there purely for PR.
> If you can't see through that, that's your problem.
Correct - like all politicians, they were they for the PR value, and
>
> She was there purely for PR.
> If you can't see through that, that's your problem.
leveraged the emotional content - as evidenced by those who somehow see this
as a Veteran's thing. They played some pawns, got their moment in front of
the camera, and you won't hear from them again. Pure political bullshit.
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-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
Mike Marlow
Nov 23, 2011, 9:51:58 PM11/23/11
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Nancy2 wrote:
> I don't have a problem - I like to focus on the charitable reason she
> was there, not some cynical assumption that can't be proven one way or
> the other.
>
Do you really believe she or any other politician is charitably oriented?
> I don't have a problem - I like to focus on the charitable reason she
> was there, not some cynical assumption that can't be proven one way or
> the other.
>
Come on...
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mmarlo...@windstream.net
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 24, 2011, 3:19:36 AM11/24/11
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You did well.
> - Show quoted text -
Sometimes you have to put it in terms that the brain dead
conservatives understand.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
Nov 24, 2011, 2:48:28 PM11/24/11
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Here is an interesting opinion of the sad incident...I agree with the
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author...their behavior tells us about their lack of upbringing and
respect for our Country and respect for women. It also explains why
conservative women still accept Cain..an abuser of women...the
conservative culture obviously devalues women despite whatever they
say otherwise.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/blog/from_the_marbles/post/No-excuse-for-booing-Michelle-Obama-at-NASCAR-ra?urn=nascar-wp5356
TMT
Nancy2
Nov 25, 2011, 4:06:32 PM11/25/11
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have looking for your next beer.
N.
Vandar
Nov 25, 2011, 6:24:26 PM11/25/11
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I mean when they announced her with the soldier & Biden. They didn't say
anything about it that I recall. It was just "Please welcome the First
Lady blah blah blah..."
Mike Marlow
Nov 25, 2011, 8:47:07 PM11/25/11
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Nancy2 wrote:
> They did too show her talking about the support for troops. You must
> have looking for your next beer.
>
I gotta give ya some points for that one Nancy - brought a smile to my face.
> They did too show her talking about the support for troops. You must
> have looking for your next beer.
>
You do have a funny side, don't you?
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-Mike-
mmarlo...@windstream.net
IGot2P
Nov 27, 2011, 2:05:02 PM11/27/11
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Democrat that it is unbelievable and I don't think that any of my
friends or myself are idiots. You must be running in the wrong group so
just go back in your tailor and watch some more "Dukes" reruns.
Don
emoneyjoe
Nov 27, 2011, 3:06:25 PM11/27/11
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:05:02 -0600, IGot2P <d...@crsales.com> wrote:
>On 11/23/2011 2:30 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>> On 11/21/2011 10:08 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Other attributes of NASCAR audiences are heavily studied because, well,
>>> they’re an attractive merchandising opportunity. Surprise, surprise –
>>> they’re not redneck beer-swillers who thrill to “Dukes of Hazzard”
>>> reruns.
>>> [...]
>>
>> But a lot of tone-deaf leftist political types *think* that's what
>> NASCAR fans are. It's a safe bet that all the idiot leftists in Usenet
>> think that.
>
>Interesting, myself and most all of my friends are so far left of a
>Democrat that it is unbelievable and I don't think that any of my
>friends or myself are idiots.
You and they must be communist idiots then. :-)
>On 11/23/2011 2:30 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
>> On 11/21/2011 10:08 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> Other attributes of NASCAR audiences are heavily studied because, well,
>>> they’re an attractive merchandising opportunity. Surprise, surprise –
>>> they’re not redneck beer-swillers who thrill to “Dukes of Hazzard”
>>> reruns.
>>> [...]
>>
>> But a lot of tone-deaf leftist political types *think* that's what
>> NASCAR fans are. It's a safe bet that all the idiot leftists in Usenet
>> think that.
>
>Interesting, myself and most all of my friends are so far left of a
>Democrat that it is unbelievable and I don't think that any of my
>friends or myself are idiots.
>You must be running in the wrong group so
>just go back in your tailor and watch some more "Dukes" reruns.
>
>Don
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