Movies....
Digemm
oriented movies are out there? Armageddon, Red Dawn, etc...I must have missed
a couple of them. How many can we come up with?
Digemm
ray hastings
Off the top of my head:
Face Off, Con Air, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Speed (1&2), Titanic, Air
Force One, The Net, Chain Reaction, Point Break, The Bodyguard, Cobra,
Kiss the Girls, Volcano, and Apollo 13. Gale
ray hastings
>
> Just watched "The Seige" (Again) and wondered to myself how many survival
> oriented movies are out there? Armageddon, Red Dawn, etc...I must have missed
> a couple of them. How many can we come up with?
Deliverence (never seen), Jeremiah Johnson, Three Days of the Condor,
Doctor Zhivago. Gale
Shawn Cottles
Fav's) and thats all i can think of of hope this helps
Lt. Shawn StarFire
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Robert Sturgeon
wrote:
>Digemm wrote:
>>
>> Just watched "The Seige" (Again) and wondered to myself how many survival
>> oriented movies are out there? Armageddon, Red Dawn, etc...I must have missed
>> a couple of them. How many can we come up with?
>
>Off the top of my head:
>Face Off, Con Air, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Speed (1&2), Titanic, Air
>Force One, The Net, Chain Reaction, Point Break, The Bodyguard, Cobra,
>Kiss the Girls, Volcano, and Apollo 13.
The Trigger Effect (What to NOT do!)
All the Road Warrior movies
Exodus (I know- a stretch)
Water World
Flight of the Phoenix
Robert Sturgeon-
"Tax and tax, spend and spend, elect and elect."
After 66 years, it's still working.
Louis Boyd
>
> Digemm wrote:
> >
> > Just watched "The Seige" (Again) and wondered to myself how many survival
> > oriented movies are out there? Armageddon, Red Dawn, etc...I must have missed
> > a couple of them. How many can we come up with?
>
> Doctor Zhivago. Gale
It might be easier to count the non-survival movies. Life itself is a
survival experience.
Many movies would class as "how not to" with respect to survival.
--
Lou Boyd
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Tim May
<bo...@pegasus.la.asu.edu> wrote:
> ray hastings wrote:
> >
> > Digemm wrote:
> > >
> > > Just watched "The Seige" (Again) and wondered to myself how many survival
> > > oriented movies are out there? Armageddon, Red Dawn, etc...I must
have missed
> > > a couple of them. How many can we come up with?
> >
> > Deliverence (never seen), Jeremiah Johnson, Three Days of the Condor,
> > Doctor Zhivago. Gale
>
> It might be easier to count the non-survival movies. Life itself is a
> survival experience.
> Many movies would class as "how not to" with respect to survival.
Few of the movies you folks are listing seem to me to be at all useful in
a survival situation.
For wilderness survival, I suppose "The Edge" had a few minor tips, junk
about making a compass, lighting fires, etc. Nothing one couldn't find
more succinctly and accurately described in the Boy Scout Handbook.
For nuclear war survival, none of the movies suggested here were very
interesting or useful. Books are better. Dean Ing's "Pulling Through," for
example. Or an old 1960s novel about a small town in Florida: "Alas,
Babylon," by Pat Frank.
For "social disruption" survival, or non-survival pace Louis' point, there
is the movie "The Trigger Effect," which deals with a citywide
(statewide?) power outage, somewhat like Y2K. The movie deals with the
consequences of some stupid actions. (Hint: Never, ever let a hoplophobic
chick throw the shotgun in the pool!)
Again, books are better. More detailed, more books than movies so the odds
of finding a book dealing with some issue are greater.
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Perry Noid
> Just watched "The Seige" (Again)
Gezz, "The Seige" blew chunks and sucked them back up again :o/ That
movie was terrible.
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Here's some better ones:
Miricle Mile - people at a restaurant in a big city gradually discover
there's a nuclear war about to occur and then scramble toward some
course of action.
Omega Man - Charlton Heston. After plague kills 99%+ of the population,
most survivors are half-crazed, light sensitive and a bunch of them are
out to get "Nebble" (Mr. Heston) who is the only immune survivor.
Sorta-survival, but surpurb movies:
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Cross Of Iron - German recon unit on the Russian front is caught behind
enemy lines.
Death Hunt - Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson. Mid 1920s, ex-ranger type is
falsely accused, an all out man hunt through the Canadian wilderness
ensues.
Zulu Dawn - A 500+ man British unit finds itself heavyly outnumbered,
way in over their heads against attacking zulu. (Not to be confused with
the movie "Zulu" with Peter Otoole, what's-his-name)
B2Keep
Gunner
>
>Cross Of Iron - German recon unit on the Russian front is caught behind
>enemy lines.
>
>Death Hunt - Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson. Mid 1920s, ex-ranger type is
>falsely accused, an all out man hunt through the Canadian wilderness
>ensues.
Both Excellent movies!! Death Hunt is probaly the closest to a
"survivalist movie" but both have aspects that are gritty, real and
true to life.
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein
ray hastings
>
> Digemm <dig...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Just watched "The Seige" (Again)
>
> Gezz, "The Seige" blew chunks and sucked them back up again :o/ That
> movie was terrible.
> ------------------------------------
>
> Here's some better ones:
>
> Miricle Mile - people at a restaurant in a big city gradually discover
> there's a nuclear war about to occur and then scramble toward some
> course of action.
>
> Omega Man - Charlton Heston. After plague kills 99%+ of the population,
> most survivors are half-crazed, light sensitive and a bunch of them are
> out to get "Nebble" (Mr. Heston) who is the only immune survivor.
> Sorta-survival, but surpurb movies:
> ------------------------------------
>
> enemy lines.
>
> Death Hunt - Lee Marvin, Charles Bronson. Mid 1920s, ex-ranger type is
> falsely accused, an all out man hunt through the Canadian wilderness
> ensues.
>
Gunner
>Is this the one with soylent green?
Nope, that was Soylent Green, the movie.
being twisted as I am humor wise, that movie started me off on all
kinds of wierd mind trips...
Whats the REAL ingredience in a Hungry Man dinner?
Manwhich dressing?
etc etc etc
ray hastings
>
> ray hastings <rayha...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >Is this the one with soylent green?
> Nope, that was Soylent Green, the movie.
>
> being twisted as I am humor wise, that movie started me off on all
> kinds of wierd mind trips...
>
> Whats the REAL ingredience in a Hungry Man dinner?
> Manwhich dressing?
> etc etc etc
Wlfgld
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One of the best.
wombat
>Just watched "The Seige" (Again) and wondered to myself how many survival
>oriented movies are out there? Armageddon, Red Dawn, etc...I must have missed
>a couple of them. How many can we come up with?
1==> If watch movies such as "Earthquake" , "Towering Inferno", and
the various movies made about the sinking of the RMS "Titanic" can
learn how people refuse to accept the possibility of disasters
happening and gain a bit of insight on how humans react when they do
happen.
2==> An excellent written reference on disasters is "*Darkest Hours*
by J. Robert Nash. Published by Nelson-Hall, Chicago, 1976. ISBN
0-88229-140-8. This is a narrative encyclopedia of worldwide
disasters from ancient times to 1975 or so and provides some very good
insights on what lead to the various disasters, how people ignored the
possibilities of them happening, and how they did react when they did
finally happen.
IMHO, a much better reference than movies, as the book deals with
actual disasters and actual facts. Many of these disasters involve
human greed and human stupidity, and are highly unlikely to ever be
used as the basis for a movie.
3==> Sure, there have been several movies made about the RMS "Titanic"
disaster, but this was a matter of stupidity and cupidity on the part
of the British builders. Movies involving actual disasters as the
result of decisions by Americans might be less popular and make
less money at the box office, perhaps? ;-)
~larryn
Robert Sturgeon
wrote:
>Gunner wrote:
After shepherd pie?
ray hastings
> After shepherd pie?
>
> Robert Sturgeon-
> "Tax and tax, spend and spend, elect and elect."
> After 66 years, it's still working.
>
> http://www.vistech.net/users/rsturge/
Anyone for a rack of ribs?
ray hastings
Hint: when grilling, watch out for granddaddy longlegs.
ray hastings
Brains and eggs for breakfast.
Don't want to know what the secret ingredient is in "Skippy" peanut
butter (too many Gilligan's Isle reruns).
Stay away from anything with meatballs.
Definitely avoid jars of baby food!
ben williams
Robert Sturgeon <rstu...@calwest.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 03 May 1999 06:09:13 GMT, ray hastings <rayha...@home.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Gunner wrote:
> >>
> >> ray hastings <rayha...@home.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Is this the one with soylent green?
> >> Nope, that was Soylent Green, the movie.
> >>
> >> being twisted as I am humor wise, that movie started me off on all
> >> kinds of wierd mind trips...
> >>
> >> Whats the REAL ingredience in a Hungry Man dinner?
> >> Manwhich dressing?
> >> etc etc etc
> >Lady Fingers for dessert?
>
Tim May
(Digemm) wrote:
> To Lou Boyd and Tim May: I agree on all accounts.
>
> But I'm still writing down some of them that I haven't seen yet. They
make you
> think....WHAT IF??? And that is the most important question for all of us
> that subscribe to this newsgroup.
Well, a lot of the suggestions made don't do much for me. Silly plots, etc.
In the nuclear war genre, the ABC-TV movie "The Day After" is pretty good.
Again, filled with a lot of "don't do this" lessons--like the idiot mother
making the beds as the rockets are being launched...if I'd been her
husband I'd've grabbed her, shook her, and screamed "Get a fucking clue!
The bombs are about to start falling!"
Most nukewar flicks are not useful. Nothing to be gleaned from "Fail Safe"
or "Doctor Strangelove," except some good laughs with the latter.
For biowar, there have been several recent movies. The Dustin Hoffman
movie, "Outbreak." A good one about 15-16 years ago with Yaphet
Kotto...let me consult the data bases...here it is: "Warning Sign," 1985,
about an outbreak in a biowarfare lab in Utah. And George C. Scott in
"Rage," circa 1972. And, of course, "The Stand" and "The Andromeda
Strain."
(There are better books on this subject, including Pierre Oulette's "The
Third Pandemic" and Richard Preston's "The Cobra Event."
And so on.
Gunner
<wms...@netquick.net> wrote:
>Ever see the 60's movie 'Blood Feast' ? anyone for 'leg of lamb'?
>
Remember "Eating Raoul"?
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"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein
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Robert Sturgeon
>On Mon, 3 May 1999 19:10:42 -0400, "ben williams"
><wms...@netquick.net> wrote:
>
>>Ever see the 60's movie 'Blood Feast' ? anyone for 'leg of lamb'?
>>
>Remember "Eating Raoul"?
Hey! I saw that. What a disappointment. They really ATE him! Gotta
check that rating closer next time.
Digemm
H. McDaniel
>ray hastings wrote:
>>
>> Digemm wrote:
>> >
>> > Just watched "The Seige" (Again) and wondered to myself how many survival
>> > oriented movies are out there? Armageddon, Red Dawn, etc...I must have missed
>> > a couple of them. How many can we come up with?
>>
>> Deliverence (never seen), Jeremiah Johnson, Three Days of the Condor,
>> Doctor Zhivago. Gale
>It might be easier to count the non-survival movies. Life itself is a
>survival experience.
>Many movies would class as "how not to" with respect to survival.
Robison Crusoe on Mars, just saw it last night on the Sci-Fi channel.
Made around 1962 with Adam West. Astronauts get stranded on Mars. Pretty
humerous. Sort of a cross between that Earth 2 TV show and a 1950s
space adventure. It's one of those flicks where you keep laughing at the
stupidity of the characters, something like they'd show on Mystery Science
Theater.
-McDaniel
Gunner
>And my personal favorite - A Boy and his dog. It ain't Disney
>
Probably Don Johnsons finest roll........<G>
Louis Boyd
A movie about a survivalist should be extremely boring. It would
consist of a family sitting around their house, doing chores, tending
there garden with paw saying something like "Sure is a shame about all
that crap going on in the rest of the country". If you're a prepared
survialist what will happen to you should be "nothing unusual". What a
survivalist won't be doing is actively putting himeself and his family
in a position of strife and danger as happens in most "survival" movies.
Bart Bailey
> Digemm wrote:
> >
> > To Lou Boyd and Tim May: I agree on all accounts.
> >
> > But I'm still writing down some of them that I haven't seen yet. They make you
> > think....WHAT IF??? And that is the most important question for all of us
> > that subscribe to this newsgroup.
>
> A movie about a survivalist should be extremely boring. It would
> consist of a family sitting around their house, doing chores, tending
> there garden with paw saying something like "Sure is a shame about all
> that crap going on in the rest of the country". If you're a prepared
> survialist what will happen to you should be "nothing unusual". What a
> survivalist won't be doing is actively putting himeself and his family
> in a position of strife and danger as happens in most "survival" movies.
But then it wouldn't have a box office draw, would it?If the woman actually outran
the danger without the obligatory fall or the hero making a valiant rescue attempt
and not succeeding at the last moment, just in time for the commercials, who would
pay cash for that level of mundane realism?
Digemm
<bo...@pegasus.la.asu.edu> writes:
Lou Boyd says the following:
>
>A movie about a survivalist should be extremely boring. It would
>consist of a family sitting around their house, doing chores, tending
>there garden with paw saying something like "Sure is a shame about all
>that crap going on in the rest of the country". If you're a prepared
>survialist what will happen to you should be "nothing unusual". What a
>survivalist won't be doing is actively putting himeself and his family
>in a position of strife and danger as happens in most "survival" movies.
>
>
If only I could relie on that to happen to me...One of my scenarios is a
earthquake/eruption combination (live in western washington) wherein the loss
of my extremely humble abode is all too possible. So I say: What if?
I won't actively (purposely) be putting I and the wife in a position of strife
and danger, but the possibility of having to pass through such obstacles to
reach a safe haven is well within the realm...
Louis Boyd
I would contend that a good (read that likely to be successful)
survivalist should evaluate their surroundings at all times for
potential dangers. If the "loss of your abode is all too possible"
would it not make sense to move now rather than wait for a catastrophy
when everyone will be trying to escape too. Same goes for people who
have homes along fault lines or in flood plains or in forests where a
fire will cause their house to burn. Locating in tornaodo areas is not
a great idea either as was recently demonstrated in OK and KS. A meteor
could smash through your house anywhere but when was the last time you
heard of that happening? Natural and social disasters are fairly likely
in some locations while being less likely in others. Avoiding potential
danger is at least as important as is stocking supplies and learing
skills to apply after disaster strikes.
Jed
a man pursued cross crountry by the natves using his wits to survive.
The way some of us may escape the cities.
The War Game - more or a documentary on the effects of n-war in Britain.
Scared the ----out of the British especially the part where the cops
were using small pistols to euthanize those people triaged.
Special Bulletin - About anti-war group that blows up (nukes it good)
Charleston. Told in news style fashion. And in other news......
By Dawns Early Light - Beats the heck outa me how we would ever win a
n-war after watching this.
The Atomic Bomb Movie -Trinity and Beyond - Documentary with great
music. The ending is outstanding.
Massive Retaliation - Survivalist favorite.
The Crazies - An accidental bio-weapon release hits a small town like a
ton of bricks. Pretty believable but too gut twisting for popcorn.
The Quiet Earth - The effect. A scientist pieces together a drastic
alteration in the structure of his universe.
JonquilJan
> a man pursued cross crountry by the natves using his wits to survive.
> The way some of us may escape the cities.
And in Africa many decades ago. Real survivalism.
<snip>
>
> Special Bulletin - About anti-war group that blows up (nukes it good)
> Charleston. Told in news style fashion. And in other news.
Remember when this was first broadcast. Watched every minute. Almost
an Orson Wells 'War of the Worlds' format. Had to be really careful
not to get caught up in the story -- and remember that it was a story.
.....
>
<snip>
JonquilJan
Digemm
<bo...@pegasus.la.asu.edu> writes:
>would it not make sense to move now rather than wait for a catastrophy
Yes, it would make sense. Please tell my wife :)
>Avoiding potential
>danger is at least as important as is stocking supplies and learing
>skills to apply after disaster strikes.
Personally, I avoid everything I can: Housework, washing the car, mowing the
lawn......
Louis Boyd
That might work. The oldest living things on earth are large trees.
They survive while not doing those things either.
Joseph Carlisle
gun...@cyberg8t.com (Gunner) Re: Movies....
wrote:
Ever see the 60's movie 'Blood Feast' ? anyone for 'leg of lamb'?
Remember "Eating Raoul"?
Great Movie.
O f course my fav is"Night of the Living Dead"
the old one or the new one.
I love the part were the EMT cannot get any vitals so they switch and of
course still do get any.Brains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe
Trooper
What about Night of the Living Dead, Night of the Living Dead 90', Dawn of the
Dead, Day of the Dead, Zombie, Night of the Comet, Night of the
Creeps,etc...Shoot for the head.
Trooper
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